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(FRENCH)

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(Off camera) I have often heard here
that reincarnation is spoken about,

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what is the teaching about reincarnation?

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Reincarnation,

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sounds like, when people use the world reincarnation,

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it looks like the body and the soul,
the body and the mind,

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are two separate things.

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The body is somehow
like a house for the soul, for the spirit,

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so when the body disintegrates

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then the soul
will fly out, go into another, new body,

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and we understand the word "reincarnation"
like that.

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Maybe in "popular" Buddhism
people can believe that,

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but in deep Buddhism that is not correct.

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In deep Buddhism there is no "soul" that
can be without a body.

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That does not mean what when
the body is dead,

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the soul is dead at the same time,

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because, we heard there is no death, 
there is only a continuation.

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For the cloud there is no death,
it is always a continuation.

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So, continuation is a good word.

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It is a better word than death.

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The other word, rebirth, is better than 
reincarnation.

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The cloud is reborn in the river.

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You don't say that the cloud
has reincarnated in the river.

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There is a constant continuation,

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nothing can die, exactly.

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In the realm of Science they
have discovered something like that.

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The French scientist Lavoisier said that:

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"nothing can be born, nothing can die"

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"rien ne se crée, rien ne se perd"

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He spoke about everything,
cloud, and everything,

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so the first law of thermodynamics,

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is telling us the same,
concerning matter and energy.

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You can transform matter into energy,

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energy into another kind of energy,

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energy back into matter again.

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But you cannot destroy matter,
you cannot destroy energy,

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you cannot create new matter,
you cannot create new energy.

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They are always transforming,

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always on the way of transformation,

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no birth and no death.

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The scientists have come very close

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to the Buddhist teaching of 
no-birth and no-death.

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A cloud can never die 
and a cloud has never been born,

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because in our mind to be born means,

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from nothing to become something,


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from no one you become someone.

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Before you are born from your mother,

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you did not exist, at all,

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you come from the realm of non-being,

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never really there.

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That is our way of thinking 
about birth and death,

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but we know very well that the cloud
has not come from "la non être",

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"the non-being".

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Before it expressed itself as cloud,

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it had been the water in the ocean,

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the water vapor, 
the cloud has not come from nothing.

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It has not been born.

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Its only a continuation.

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So to express itself as cloud,

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it is only one way of manifestation.

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So the word manifestation is better
than the word birth.

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Next birthday, instead of singing
"Happy Birthday",

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you may sing 
"Happy Manifestation Day",

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or "Happy Continuation Day".

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When someone is dying,
she is not really dying,

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she is transforming herself into
something else,

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maybe more beautiful, fresher, younger.

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It can be happy even, to die:

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"Happy Continuation",

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"Happy Transformation".

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This is the way that Buddhism
should look:

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there is no birth and no death.

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We know that the idea of reincarnation,

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had been there before the Buddha.

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In the Upanishads there was also the idea
of reincarnation,

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even the notion of retribution,

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But retribution, reincarnation, are not
at the heart of the Buddhist teaching.

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At the heart of the Buddhist teaching are
impermanence, no-self, inter-being,

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the Four Noble Truths, 
the Noble Eight-fold path.

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The Buddha has accepted the
teaching of retribution, reincarnation,

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but reincarnation should be understood
in the light of no-self,

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in the light of impermanence,

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in the light of inter-being.

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In the Dharma talk tomorrow hopefully,

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we can discuss this matter of 
birth and death.

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So there is no birth and no death,

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when this body disintegrates,
you continue, always.

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It is like when you don't see
the cloud in the sky anymore,

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she continues,

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the problem is how to recognize her
in her new form.

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That kind of understanding
can remove fear.

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The fear of non-being,

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the fear of death.

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