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Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.10,0:00:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Good morning, everyone,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.05,0:00:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and welcome to the Wikidata\Nand Education panel.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.100,0:00:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're just happy anyone is here\Nbecause there are four amazing sessions
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.29,0:00:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happening all at the same time\Nso thank you for showing up.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.37,0:00:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (audience 1) We're happy you're here.\N- (Shani) Yes, we are also happy and we--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.25,0:00:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, yes, yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.69,0:00:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, really all the sessions\Nare really good
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.55,0:00:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this is for the people at home,\Nif you're watching something else,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.43,0:00:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please come watch us later or vice versa\Nbecause there's a lot of awesomeness
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.88,0:00:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this conference.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.08,0:00:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So good morning again\Nand just to be clear
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.69,0:00:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on what to expect from this session,\Nwe're going to have
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.45,0:00:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a really quick introduction\Nof these amazing people
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.79,0:00:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are assembled here today.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.14,0:00:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to do an introduction\Nof around three minutes each,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.72,0:00:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we're simply\Ngoing to have a chat.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.88,0:01:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to discuss education\Nand Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.02,0:01:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what could be done together\Nand hopefully we can then
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.09,0:01:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open the floor to questions\Nbut do feel free to basically interrupt us
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.10,0:01:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have something burning\Nand you really want to know
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.75,0:01:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the answer to.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.41,0:01:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So without further ado,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.11,0:01:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's meet our panelists.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.46,0:01:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first is João.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.18,0:01:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(João) So, hi, everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.86,0:01:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it working?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.76,0:01:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yup, okay, so my name is João Peschanski,\Nusername Joaolpe.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.74,0:01:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a member of the user group,\NWiki Movimento Brasil
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.28,0:01:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the user group,\NWikipedia and Education.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.41,0:01:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm a university professor,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.08,0:01:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly in the Department\Nof Social Communications
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.81,0:01:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I teach Computational\NJournalism Media studies.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.02,0:01:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And I have two slides, I'm not sure--\N- (Shani) Tell me when to switch.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.69,0:01:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, yeah, you can switch.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.39,0:01:53.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I will just mention two projects\Nthat to some extent,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.51,0:01:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give a background of what I'm--\Nwhat my understanding of the connection
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.18,0:02:00.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Wikidata and educations are.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.17,0:02:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first project is the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.33,0:02:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of using Wikidata as an instrument\Nfor Wikipedia, both and mostly to create
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.71,0:02:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more meaningfulness and efficiency\Nin the process of working with my students
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.10,0:02:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this was a project done twice.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.84,0:02:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In which my students created\Ntrue structure narratives
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.64,0:02:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on Wikidata, entries\Nfor Wikipedia in Portuguese on elections.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.44,0:02:36.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were around 400 entries created\Nand the idea is to have my students
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.71,0:02:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not feel the idea that editing Wikipedia,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.39,0:02:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly tables, is boring.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.15,0:02:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it provides a gigantic structured draft\Nbased on Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.70,0:02:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it provides more efficiency\Nand effectiveness for the students.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.04,0:02:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you could go to the second one.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.84,0:03:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can talk later if you're interested\NI provide a lot of links.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.56,0:03:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the second case\Nis one that I'm running right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.34,0:03:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in Brazil, there were four\Ndistinct investigations
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.38,0:03:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of human rights crimes committed\Nduring the military dictatorship,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.66,0:03:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two by the government,\None by intellectuals,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.81,0:03:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one by family members of killed\Nand disappeared people in Brazil.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.78,0:03:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as they were completely autonomous
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.92,0:03:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and diverse, data that\Nthey collected was conflicting.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.99,0:03:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are using Wikidata\Nas a way of dealing
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.87,0:03:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with conflicted information,\Ndisagreeing data, knowledge diversity.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.71,0:03:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And having my students work\Nas curators of the information,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.41,0:03:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which we don't impose one\Nover the other but we try to understand
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.12,0:03:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the context and methodology\Nof the information that was created
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.27,0:03:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is, of course, actual results
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.30,0:04:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is a dashboard you can check,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.94,0:04:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I would just point on this one,\Na recent Wikidata live training
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.35,0:04:07.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we had with Denny Vrandecic \Non disagreeing data
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.19,0:04:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and knowledge diversity\Nthat has actually informed the way
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.59,0:04:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are working the methodology\Naround this particular project.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.20,0:04:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And I thank you.\N- (Shani) Thank you so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.14,0:04:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next is Ewan.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.42,0:04:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Ewan) Yes, so, hi, my name is Ewan.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.18,0:04:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I work as the Wikimedian in Residence\Nat the University of Edinburgh.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.29,0:04:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a partnership between Wikimedia UK
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.03,0:04:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the University of Edinburgh\Nlooking at ways
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.50,0:04:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which we can benefit from\Nand contribute to the Wikimedia projects.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.66,0:04:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're working with about ten\Ndifferent course programs at the moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.48,0:04:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're on the verge of publishing\Nour first booklet of case studies
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.33,0:04:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how Wikimedia is being used\Nin education in the U.K.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.04,0:05:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In particular, we've been working with\NData Science for Design Masters students
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.42,0:05:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for about three years now.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.58,0:05:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the course leaders on that course\Napproached myself
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.44,0:05:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after me and Navina Evans, who's behind\NHistropedia, around a workshop
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.47,0:05:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Repository Fringe conference\Nfocused on Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.30,0:05:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were really interested\Nin teaching data science
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.90,0:05:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through working with real world data sets.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.62,0:05:27.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so what they do is\Nthey host a data fair
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.50,0:05:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every year in October where people\Nfrom around Edinburgh,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.66,0:05:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around Scotland, different institutions\Ncome and pitch a data set
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.89,0:05:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the students\Non the Masters program there
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.11,0:05:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to work with intensively over\Na seven-week period.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.94,0:05:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a three minute\Nsort of speed dating exercise
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.69,0:05:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where a data set is pitched\Nand the students organize themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.60,0:05:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into groups of three and they then...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.03,0:06:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,analyze the data set, work with it\Nand they want to tell engaging visual--
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.63,0:06:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visualizations with those data sets.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.44,0:06:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So of the 15 data sets\Nthat were pitched by places
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.51,0:06:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like The National Library of Scotland,\NNational Records of Scotland,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.47,0:06:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I pitched this data set which is\NThe Survey of Scottish Witchcraft database
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.04,0:06:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is one\Nof the University of Edinburgh's own
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.56,0:06:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was in a Microsoft access database.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.12,0:06:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it basically has all the records\Nof witch trials in Scotland
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.45,0:06:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from 1563 to 1736,\Nstored in a static access database
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.19,0:06:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we just pitched to the students\Nwhat could they do
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.61,0:06:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they turn that into linked open data.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.93,0:06:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we did that over two years\Nand that leveraged some money
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.54,0:06:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hire a Women in STEM student,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.74,0:06:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become an intern for three months\Nand she had a background in GIS.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.64,0:06:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we asked her to look\Nat all the place names mentioned
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.06,0:06:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the data set so that she could then\Nplot all of these witch trials,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.58,0:07:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of these accused witches on a map\Nwhich now exists on this website
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.16,0:07:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was live as of a month ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.68,0:07:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're now pitching to the students
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.72,0:07:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a further project of now that\Nthe information is on Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.12,0:07:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can we do some network analysis\Nof seeing who the main influencers were
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.70,0:07:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and link it up that much better\Nand have a really rich understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.62,0:07:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this period of history.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.52,0:07:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, that's me.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.56,0:07:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) And next--\NThank you so much, Ewan.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.54,0:07:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Next is Debora.\N- (Debora) Hi, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.57,0:07:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, guys all for being here.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.92,0:07:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been a Wikipedia author for forever
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.02,0:07:44.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm a professor\Nfor Computer Science here in Berlin
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.03,0:07:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a local engineering college.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.35,0:07:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been teaching a course called\NSemantic Modeling since about ten years.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.39,0:07:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the past three recent years,\NI've started using Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.06,0:08:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as one of the examples\Nfor what we're actually doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.85,0:08:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to go onto the next one,\Nplease, Shani, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.06,0:08:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we're doing is this project called,\NUniversity Degrees.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.87,0:08:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now the students start off\Nwith the background
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.83,0:08:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they've learned\Nall the traditional stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.79,0:08:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about RDF and OWL and using Protege\Nand it hurts and it's stupid
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.08,0:08:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I hate this.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.17,0:08:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So after we've been through\Nthe fire of that,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.01,0:08:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we graduate to Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.68,0:08:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we decided to model\Nthis microscopic part of the universe
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.24,0:08:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called University Degrees\Nbecause we're a university
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.16,0:08:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we know all about university degrees.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.30,0:08:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because there is a database\Navailable in Germany called Anabin
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.60,0:08:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has all of the data, theoretically,\Nin it on degrees that are granted.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.35,0:08:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use it as a member\Nof the admissions committee
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.04,0:08:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for our Masters program\Nto see if a Bachelors degree program
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.07,0:08:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is accredited or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.75,0:08:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the idea was,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.78,0:08:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, we'll just dump Anabin\Ninto Wikidata."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.58,0:09:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we learned that reality\Nis much, much worse than this actually is.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.31,0:09:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what they end up doing\Nis choosing a country,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.01,0:09:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they researched\Nthe university structure there,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.90,0:09:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usually just pick one or two universities\Nand then try to model the degrees
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.55,0:09:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are granted.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.57,0:09:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We got a property accepted called Grants
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.63,0:09:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a university grants this degree\Nand the idea is we can see
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.83,0:09:25.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what degrees are granted by a university\Nand when we go to a person
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.05,0:09:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can model which degree\Nthey actually have.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.95,0:09:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we've ended up with a lot of problems\Nand I have some modeling problems
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.06,0:09:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't model in Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.08,0:09:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anybody have some great ideas,\NI'd love to talk to you about it
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.16,0:09:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we have the issue\Nof double degrees
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.13,0:09:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and double majors.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.64,0:09:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's all sorts of monsters\Nrunning around Wikidata called
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.12,0:09:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things like Bachelor of Medicine,\NBachelor of Surgery.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.18,0:09:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just can't imagine putting together\Nall the possible combinations
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.16,0:09:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of double degrees into Wikidata,\Nthat would just kill me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.42,0:09:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are also degrees\Nthat have more than one
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.61,0:10:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,participating university.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.19,0:10:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We found one that has\Nfive participating universities
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.58,0:10:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the first year\Nand three different ones
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.100,0:10:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the second year.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.90,0:10:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there's the question\Nof Honors degrees
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.75,0:10:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is different\Nin all different countries
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.97,0:10:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so it turns out to have\Nlots of wonderful modeling issues
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.21,0:10:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I have no idea\Nhow we're going to go on with this.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.96,0:10:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the next slide.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.19,0:10:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last one just to give you an idea,\Nwe collect stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.12,0:10:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in our Wiki project, we have a table\Nand you're welcome to--
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.58,0:10:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you find something weird,\Nto put it in there.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.91,0:10:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have all these Bachelors degrees\Nthat we found floating around Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.72,0:10:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Masters degrees,\Nthere's this wonderful one over here
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.31,0:10:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under {\i1}Other{\i0}, a Masters degree\Nin Icelandic Medieval Studies.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.19,0:10:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the five people\Nwho've graduated from that
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.09,0:10:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- are probably all on Wikidata, right?\N- (laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.91,0:10:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So anyway, my interest is from more\Nof a Computer Science point of view,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.04,0:10:54.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is an ontology,\Nwhat is classification systems,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.49,0:10:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we go about doing this?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.79,0:10:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we thought university degrees\Nwould be easy and they're not.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.21,0:11:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Thank you so much, Debora.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.68,0:11:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And next is Akbar Ali.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.59,0:11:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Akbar) Thank you, Shani
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.71,0:11:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Akbar Ali from Dubai,\NUnited Arab Emirates.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.91,0:11:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm working as a Social Science teacher\Nin a United Arab Emirates school.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.15,0:11:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since 2015, I use Wikidata\Nand try to introduce Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.74,0:11:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the school basic level education,\Nespecially in high school standard
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.22,0:11:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as part of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.57,0:11:33.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, we introduced Wikidata\Namong these high school students,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.11,0:11:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially to collect data at first,\Nespecially personal data
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.60,0:11:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the great personalities.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.20,0:11:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we [carry out] assignments\Nto students to collect the data
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.09,0:11:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Wikidata,\Nthat was the [inaudible] direction part.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.28,0:11:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then same [inaudible]\Nwe did Wikidata info books.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.25,0:11:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Students prepare info books\Nby modeling Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.07,0:11:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was developed [inaudible].
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.75,0:12:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the extra activity\Nwas we had the students
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.52,0:12:07.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from different countries like Pakistan,\NAfghanistan and European countries also.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.59,0:12:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot of students\Nare from different languages,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.88,0:12:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we conducted the translation\Nof labels and the descriptions.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.71,0:12:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And from the classroom itself\Nwe're using the device students edited
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.73,0:12:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some descriptions and labels.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.12,0:12:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time, we had four classrooms\Naround 28 students
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.13,0:12:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were in each classroom,\Nso totally we had 112 participation
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.91,0:12:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from four classes.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.70,0:12:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we also encountered\Na teacher training program
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.12,0:12:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for teachers who were trying\Nto introduce Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.09,0:12:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into their subject.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.73,0:12:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time, we have some challenges
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.52,0:12:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many students do not have the devices
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.54,0:12:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are going to tackle \Nmy next academic year
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.72,0:12:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by using a lot of devices.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.58,0:12:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the internet connectivity\Nis another issue,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.58,0:13:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the students or sometimes\Nwe feel the lack of internet connectivity,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.53,0:13:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is especially when we try\Nthese activities in the [inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.63,0:13:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there's internet connectivity issues\N[inaudible].
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.05,0:13:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And actually Wikidata or Wikipedia,\Nit's just not the part of a curriculum
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.44,0:13:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but next academic year\Nwe are trying to introduce,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.63,0:13:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a curriculum tool, Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.10,0:13:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is one of the future plans\Nand we also would like to teach
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.87,0:13:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the students some\Nof the basic SPARQL query.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.32,0:13:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And same [inaudible]\Nwe also try to form the Wiki clubs
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.97,0:13:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in schools, that is one\Nof our future plans.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.05,0:13:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that's it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.66,0:13:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Thank you so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.55,0:13:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And lastly, we also need\Nto meet me, kind of.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.39,0:13:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So hi, everyone, I'm Shani Evenstein.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.38,0:13:47.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm from Israel, I work\Nat the Tel Aviv University,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.49,0:13:52.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm an educator and a researcher,\Nactually my PhD is about Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.33,0:13:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically as a learning platform.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.33,0:13:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been an open knowledge advocate\Nfor a long time now
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.09,0:14:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just recently became\Npart of the Board of Trustees.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.06,0:14:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only reason I have to mention it
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.07,0:14:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just to say that everything I say here
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.11,0:14:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not in my hat as a trustee\Nor a representation of the WMF,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.88,0:14:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather of me as a volunteer\Nand an educator and a researcher.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.34,0:14:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to tell you a bit\Nabout my experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.26,0:14:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I've been teaching Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.21,0:14:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say since--
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.86,0:14:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2014 would be the first year\Nthat I started to introduce it
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.62,0:14:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to my courses.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.64,0:14:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I would--before delving\Ninto my courses,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.74,0:14:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say that\Nthere are two major models
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.48,0:14:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of incorporating Wikidata\Ninto the academic curriculum
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.42,0:14:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the educational curriculum.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.85,0:14:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is an alternative assessment.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.16,0:14:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is when different lecturers decide
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.37,0:14:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give their students an assignment
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.21,0:15:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Wikidata, using Wikidata-- \Npreviously it was Wikipedia, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.06,0:15:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like everything we now experience\Nwith Wikidata is like what we had
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.95,0:15:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about ten years ago with Wikipedia.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.18,0:15:14.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're going through, in a way,\Nthe same process now
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.05,0:15:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of introducing Wikidata\Nas a learning platform
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.61,0:15:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the educational world in a way.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.80,0:15:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And just like with Wikipedia,\Nthere are two models
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.99,0:15:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are maybe more but two major ones\Nthat I could at least recognize
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.01,0:15:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I work with both.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.77,0:15:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first is instead of the students\Nbeing tested or writing a paper,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.59,0:15:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they do something\Non Wikipedia or Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.22,0:15:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the first model.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.66,0:15:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in that sense, I've been supporting\Na variety of lecturers
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.35,0:15:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around Israel in various universities\Naround Israel,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.21,0:15:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starting in 2017.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.97,0:15:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it took some time, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.23,0:15:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's almost five years since Wikidata\Nwas formed for academia
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.01,0:15:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start actually engaging with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.82,0:16:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Israel, at least.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.29,0:16:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In academic courses, as an assignment\Nor as something that we--
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.97,0:16:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've actually mentioned it\Na bit before in courses.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.90,0:16:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about not really having the students\Nwrite anything, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.75,0:16:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first ones to interact\Nwere people from Computer Sciences,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.55,0:16:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Digital Humanities,\Nthat sort of fields
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.06,0:16:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was a natural way\Nof giving the students a project
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.64,0:16:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they can actually apply\Nthat is related to what they study.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.19,0:16:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This coming semester,\NI'm going to support two such activities,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.50,0:16:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one in an international\Ndigital culture studies,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.54,0:16:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a digital discourse course.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.22,0:16:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're going to have\Na Wikidata workshop
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.36,0:16:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's going to be part\Nof the students' assessment.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.75,0:16:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also something that\NI'm actually very much excited about,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.62,0:16:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Bar Ilan University\NComputer Science Department
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.69,0:16:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a course on Semantic Web.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.92,0:16:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have--and that is going \Nto be in collaboration
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.90,0:17:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Israel Antiquities Authority.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.42,0:17:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing is, the lecturer\Nthat teaches this course
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.54,0:17:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted the students to have a project\Nthat actually means something.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.81,0:17:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she thought Wikidata\Nwould be a good option.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.96,0:17:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is what we're--\Nthis is going to be how we start, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.62,0:17:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the right, these are the cards\Nthat we get from
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.62,0:17:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Israel Antiquities Services.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.46,0:17:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are Word files, by the way,\NWord files, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.47,0:17:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing is--Word files,\NI'll say it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.24,0:17:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing is digitized.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.45,0:17:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what we want to do\Nis have the students
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.67,0:17:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work on these, model these.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.63,0:17:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now because it's a Semantic Web course,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.50,0:17:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have been grappling\Nwith how to model things
Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.43,0:17:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they've been using what Debora\Nhas been doing basically
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.10,0:17:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using Protege and using OWL\Nand using very basic RDF
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.25,0:17:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way of thought in terms of doing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.09,0:17:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the trick is going to be\Nhow we can then take it
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.71,0:18:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and map it into Wikidata\Nwhich is a real live--
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.52,0:18:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a flexible ontology kind of project.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.30,0:18:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's coming up this semester.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.28,0:18:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would say the second model\Nis one where Wikidata assignments
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.25,0:18:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the main assessment.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.84,0:18:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is happening, as far as I know,\Ntoday only with my courses
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.60,0:18:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Tel Aviv University.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.50,0:18:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as some of you know,\NI have opened elective courses
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.27,0:18:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Tel Aviv University\Nwhere my students basically
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.94,0:18:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contribute to Wikipedia.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.76,0:18:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first course was in 2013\Nand then a second course opened in 2015
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.65,0:18:40.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the whole campus, so basically\Nevery undergraduate student
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.30,0:18:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Tel Aviv University\Ncan take such a course.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.87,0:18:46.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why I'm mentioning it\Nis because last year
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.97,0:18:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I completely transformed\Na curriculum of that course
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.29,0:18:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to basically feature Wikidata\Nin an academic course
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.81,0:18:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the first time.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.19,0:18:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a course called\Nfrom Web 2 to Web 3,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.71,0:19:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Wikipedia to Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.80,0:19:05.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these are my--this is the first class
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.19,0:19:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that graduated from that course.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.55,0:19:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this course, of course\NWikidata was--the assignment
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.96,0:19:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the main thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.54,0:19:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like using Wikidata\Nand learning about Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.61,0:19:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the main thing of the course.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.37,0:19:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just an assignment in a course\Nthat deals with something else.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.30,0:19:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these are the two different models,\Nthis is what I've been doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.29,0:19:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now that you know all of us,\NI'm hoping that you can see
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.83,0:19:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only from the introduction\Nhow, in a way, diverse it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.80,0:19:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How you can do it in very different ways--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.41,0:19:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's just not just one way\Nof doing it or dealing with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.51,0:19:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are some things\Nthat I think are in common
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.43,0:19:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to all of us and some specific,\NI would say, challenges
Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.76,0:19:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or issues that we all deal with.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.65,0:19:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought it would be interesting\Nto have a discussion
Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.24,0:20:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the panelists now\Nand see how they have come to be
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.16,0:20:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a place where they even incorporate\NWikidata into the curriculum
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.60,0:20:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's not happening\Nout of the blue, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.58,0:20:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to actually work for it to happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.21,0:20:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there has been work\Nbeing done for years and years,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.80,0:20:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me to open that course, for instance.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.93,0:20:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to--it started\Nwith one session in a course
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.02,0:20:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then a year later, two sessions\Nand three sessions,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.44,0:20:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I wasn't satisfied and I wanted\Nmore and more and more
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.38,0:20:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until I was able to convince\Nthe university to actually do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.60,0:20:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm quite sure \Nthat all of these panelists
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.86,0:20:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have their own challenges\Nin terms of persuading
Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.40,0:20:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the academic institutions where they're at\Nto actually even go for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.48,0:20:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I would be very happy\Nto start the discussion
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.69,0:20:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by asking you what did you have to do
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.94,0:20:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to persuade your institutions\Nto even do it?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.70,0:20:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's see.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.96,0:21:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, so, I mean our institution\Nwas hosting me to work
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.92,0:21:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with course leaders\Nand they were very much...
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.71,0:21:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mindful that the bread and butter\Nof what I was doing should really be
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.90,0:21:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within curriculum work.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.99,0:21:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we had a course\Nthat was Data Science for Design,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.48,0:21:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just happened \Nto be running a workshop
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.89,0:21:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where one of the course leaders \Nwas attending.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.26,0:21:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it percolated, struck,\Nand he was looking for people
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.68,0:21:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pitch data sets, and Wikidata\Nwas an interesting data set
Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.75,0:21:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for him to model.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.86,0:21:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was actually interested
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.40,0:21:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in me pitching the idea\Nof Wikimedia's data on harassment
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.66,0:21:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the students--he was looking--\Nbut I looked into that a bit
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.87,0:21:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we thought maybe\Nwe could do something with
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.53,0:21:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Survey of Scottish Witchcraft data\Nand we approached the court,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.01,0:22:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people behind that database\Nand said could we release this
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.36,0:22:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as open linked open data\Nand see what the students
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.76,0:22:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could do with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.14,0:22:11.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they were trying to let\Nthe websites survive
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.87,0:22:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the data survive because \Nit's not really been used since 2003.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.02,0:22:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were quite interested
Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.07,0:22:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (Shani) Could be done.\N- in what new insights could be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.40,0:22:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was pushing\Nagainst an open door, really
Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.27,0:22:26.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that particular way\Nbut there was a lot of work
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.91,0:22:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that went behind that,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.57,0:22:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- the years to persuade, I would say.\N- (Shani) Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.96,0:22:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) But in any case, it sounds like\Nyou're one of the lucky ones, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.78,0:22:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're a Wikimedian in Residence\Nat a university--woohoo!
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.65,0:22:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to say something\Nabout that in itself
Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.08,0:22:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think the fact\Nthat academic institutions
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.95,0:22:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are now starting to realize\Nthat they even need this position,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.41,0:22:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- is something kind of new and you're--\N- Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.80,0:22:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) You're a pioneer in that sense\Nand we have a bunch of others
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.06,0:22:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now joining you around the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.99,0:23:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's quite amazing.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.04,0:23:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, Andy's in the audience as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.42,0:23:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I hope he's feeling better actually,\Nbut yeah, he's at Coventry University
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.99,0:23:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a Wikimedian in Residence there.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.18,0:23:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So we'd like more.\N- (Shani) Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.45,0:23:17.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Martin Poulter at Oxford University\Nwas kind of the inspiration
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.13,0:23:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for my own residency\Nbecause he was doing editathons
Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.20,0:23:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Bodleian Library on the Great War
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.46,0:23:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Ada Lovelace Day
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.83,0:23:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our director of IT, Melissa Highton\Nwas looking at what the work
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.94,0:23:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- he was doing at Oxford and thinking--\N- (Shani) She was inspired.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.29,0:23:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could it be applied\Nin teaching and learning?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.71,0:23:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did it have to be libraries only?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.10,0:23:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or did information literacy,\Ndigital skills,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.82,0:23:48.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how under representations of knowledge,\Ndid that have applications
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.49,0:23:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in teaching and learning\Nand that's kind of--
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.45,0:23:55.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she ran an editathon\Nin Edinburgh on the Edinburgh Seven,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.09,0:24:00.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first female undergraduates in Britain\Nwho didn't have Wikipedia pages
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.17,0:24:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.21,0:24:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she invited\NProfessor Allison Littlejohn,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.07,0:24:07.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's now Dean of Teaching and Learning\Nat University of Glasgow
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.26,0:24:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come and do some research\Nto make sure it wasn't just a gimmick,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.06,0:24:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it was actual genuine teaching\Nand learning going on
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.08,0:24:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in these editing environments.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.51,0:24:19.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she's produced about five or six\Nresearch papers that says
Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.61,0:24:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is an actual point\Nto doing this in education.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.65,0:24:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Yeah and I think you're making\Nan important point
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.31,0:24:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how we also need academic research,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.96,0:24:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing that this is valuable, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.12,0:24:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And currently, we have zero.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.21,0:24:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean besides my research\Nthat I'm working on now
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.08,0:24:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will take some time\Nto publish, there is zero,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.62,0:24:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,zero research about education\Nand Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.05,0:24:49.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have tons of research about Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.69,0:24:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not about how it could be used\Nas an educational platform
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.82,0:24:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.85,0:24:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've mentioned literacies\Nand we actually have a bunch of--
Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.65,0:25:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite a lot of academic research\Nabout how to utilize Wikipedia,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.26,0:25:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that sense and how it helps\Nto enhance all sorts of literacies, right,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.52,0:25:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,digital skills, academic skills,\Ncritical thinking, collaborative work,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.17,0:25:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.36,0:25:16.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think Wikidata\Nis taking it one step further
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.77,0:25:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can use it\Nto teach people data literacy.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.69,0:25:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we have zero research\Nto support that and therefore it's--
Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.98,0:25:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are just at a beginning stage\Nin that sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.76,0:25:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah.\N- (Shani) And so, yeah,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.97,0:25:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) And so what you're saying\Njust supports that.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.27,0:25:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, we're a research-based institution\Nso we have to set an evidence
Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.98,0:25:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we're doing\Nand there is worthwhile academic purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.71,0:25:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So yeah, we've got these research papers\Non Wikipedia editing.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.52,0:25:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But yeah, more on WIkidata\Nwould definitely help
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.05,0:25:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- make the case further.\N- (Shani) Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.95,0:25:52.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Debora, what about you?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.33,0:25:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (Debora) Well, I'm lucky too\N- (Shani) Yes, yes, you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.68,0:25:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm a German professor\Nand that means all I have is a heading.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.49,0:26:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (Shani) You can do whatever you want.\N- And I can choose what I want to teach.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.66,0:26:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I put the heading\Nin the curriculum anyway
Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.48,0:26:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I designed the curriculum\Nso that makes it a lot easier.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.51,0:26:09.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very lucky that I had\Ntwo really great students
Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.96,0:26:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been working here\Nat the Wikimedia Foundation,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.52,0:26:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the German Wikimedia Foundation\Nas student programmers,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.60,0:26:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lucy and Charlie.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.12,0:26:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they both did\Ntheir Bachelors thesis on Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.85,0:26:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I mean you may have heard of Lucy's--\Nthat's the article placeholder.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.40,0:26:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was her Bachelors thesis.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.36,0:26:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it was clear that
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.72,0:26:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it's easy enough\Nfor some brilliant Bachelors to do,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.45,0:26:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my Masters had better\Nbe able to do it as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.22,0:26:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that's when I started\Nworking our way into that.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.64,0:26:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the students really enjoyed\Ndoing something real.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.25,0:26:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And not just something that's\Nget a grade and then it's gone.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.75,0:26:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They found this was it, it's scary too.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.43,0:26:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you make a change\Nand then some editor comes along
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.87,0:26:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and screams at you\Nbecause you made a stupid mistake.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.20,0:26:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.46,0:27:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a Wiki, we can turn it back\Nand start over again.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.90,0:27:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Yeah, João, what about you?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.17,0:27:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so I guess my use of Wikidata\Nis dependent on my use of Wikipedia
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.06,0:27:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an educator.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.11,0:27:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I started doing Wiki assignments\Nin 2014 when I was just hired
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.56,0:27:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a university professor\Nand that was challenging
Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.86,0:27:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because my school\Ndidn't really understand,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.37,0:27:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had never done it.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.91,0:27:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I didn't really know what to expect,\Nif it was going to work out.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.44,0:27:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually was not a Wikimedian\Nat the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.42,0:27:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just read a book--I had a grad student
Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.20,0:27:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I said okay, that might be cool.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.90,0:27:48.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was my time so I work.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.81,0:27:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The university where I work,\Nthey required that I did
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.91,0:27:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Wikipedia assignment
Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.02,0:28:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the expected evaluation
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.56,0:28:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my seminar.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.60,0:28:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was basically double grading.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.48,0:28:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had at the time 175 students.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.85,0:28:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really hard but then to some extent\Nthey've seen they couldn't change me
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.96,0:28:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they had to adapt.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.68,0:28:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now I transition to Wikidata,\Nit was easier, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.73,0:28:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because now I'm a little bit more senior\Nand they let me do whatever I want
Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.74,0:28:31.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like what you were saying\Nand just okay, they don't even ask anymore
Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.11,0:28:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I'm doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.82,0:28:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think the whole use
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.55,0:28:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Wikipedia and Wikidata now for me
Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.03,0:28:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just-- there are problems\Nthat need to be solved
Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.57,0:28:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in knowledge building.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.60,0:28:50.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes you need Wikipedia,\Nsometimes you need Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.81,0:28:53.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes you need Wikivoyage,\NWikimedia Commons.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.39,0:28:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we just started our project,\Nfor instance,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.40,0:28:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on structured data on Commons.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.22,0:29:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've uploaded from a GLAM project\Na thousand files coming from
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.36,0:29:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the military dictatorship,\Nno one knows anything about them.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.58,0:29:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we are working with my students\Nto identify, to depict anything we can
Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.40,0:29:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the pictures with the expectation\Nthat if we identify there are 17 stairs
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.71,0:29:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the building which the students\Nwere protesting the government,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.10,0:29:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can identify the building.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.82,0:29:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think you go with a purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.48,0:29:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the whole thing\Nof what we are doing in general.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.08,0:29:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has value, it's meaningful.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.13,0:29:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you're able to convey that\Nto the students
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.59,0:29:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then broaden and deepen \Nthe experience of meaningfulness
Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.53,0:29:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they can acquire from data literacy\Nor media training,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.99,0:29:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I don't know, history understanding\Npolitical values, democracy,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.51,0:29:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever you're working on as a professor,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.22,0:30:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you've reached the purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.12,0:30:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's just for me it's a resource,\Nand it's a marvelous resource,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.01,0:30:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm glad I'm part of this community\Nbecause it helps building this resource.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.25,0:30:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) So basically you either\Nhave to become a Wikimedian in Residence
Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.66,0:30:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or become a university professor\Nto be able to do whatever you want.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.10,0:30:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But not everyone is in that position\Nand I think Akbar Ali
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.37,0:30:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is representing another view of that\Nwhich is also important
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.29,0:30:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in a way, me as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.44,0:30:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean having one step at the door\Nis making it easier to implement changes
Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.40,0:30:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once you're already in.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.80,0:30:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But making that first step\Nto convince the institution
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.02,0:30:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's even worthwhile\Nis very difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.11,0:30:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very challenging.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.79,0:30:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I want to kind of move\Nbetween this question and the next one
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.80,0:30:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start talking about\Nsome of the challenges
Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.36,0:30:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're all facing doing this work.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.15,0:31:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think you're the perfect person\Nto start with that
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.67,0:31:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you've already mentioned\Na bit of the challenges
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.45,0:31:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but maybe you can explain some more.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.84,0:31:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.86,0:31:09.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually there was always a question
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.37,0:31:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what would be the new innovative\Nteaching method.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.84,0:31:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the question realized \Nin the teachers' community in the UAE.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.36,0:31:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought to share\Nabout the Wikidata at first,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:17.66,0:31:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will be new for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.38,0:31:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I was part of the collection--\Nas part of the doing assignment
Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.47,0:31:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] usually the students use
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.84,0:31:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Google or something,\Nother websites like Wikipedia.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.98,0:31:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Wikidata was a new thing for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.12,0:31:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So first of all, we started by collecting\Nthe information from Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.46,0:31:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We framed the template in the paper,\N[inaudible] Wikidata template.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.34,0:31:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was a good thing for understanding\Nthe structure of Wikidata for students.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.94,0:31:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we started to collect information.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.65,0:31:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there was one problem that\Nwhen we do the content-wise,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.45,0:31:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like when we add a content into Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.27,0:32:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students did not create a user\N[inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.10,0:32:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially they need email ID.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.92,0:32:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So actually they are high school students
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.43,0:32:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so most of them had no email ID,\Nso what we have them then
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.49,0:32:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by using Google Spreadsheet\Nthe data which we created
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.14,0:32:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we move to Google Spreadsheet,\Nthen myself, I was adding
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.81,0:32:22.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all this data into Wikidata\Nby using quick statements.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.45,0:32:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually that is one of the challenge\Nwe need to give a chance for students
Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.16,0:32:32.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create their own ID especially\Nif they are high school level students,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.73,0:32:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they need email procedures\Nthat is also still challenges there.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.10,0:32:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we are overcome,\Nif the parents are permitting that,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.16,0:32:48.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can create hundreds of students\Na user ID and their contribution
Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.89,0:32:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be there.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.89,0:32:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is one of the challenges.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.36,0:32:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second thing, I was the head\Nof the Department of Social Science
Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.38,0:33:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I could integrate Wikidata\Nas part of our curriculum adaptation plan.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.28,0:33:07.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the same time,\Nhow to run these Wikidata projects
Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.27,0:33:09.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all other subjects,\Nwe need to get the support
Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.95,0:33:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of especially the school full team.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.58,0:33:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think we need to give\Nmuch training and awareness
Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.61,0:33:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the teachers, one of the uses\Nof Wikidata, how can we integrate Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.21,0:33:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an educational tool in the curriculum.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.90,0:33:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Surely, if the teachers are convinced\Nand if they agree to that,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.26,0:33:31.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we can solve those problems too.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.63,0:33:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said there are two problems,\Nfrom teacher's side
Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.71,0:33:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or from student's side.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.80,0:33:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Yeah, I think you're making\Na really important point
Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.62,0:33:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about creating awareness, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.93,0:33:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- (Shani) And I think Ewan also talked
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.24,0:33:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.48,0:33:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes it's as simple as someone\Nsitting at the right place
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.11,0:33:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the right time at a lecture\Nthat you're giving someplace,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.82,0:33:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it sparks something in their mind\Nand they kind of get it.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.91,0:33:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you can expand from there.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.09,0:34:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But without that legwork\Nthe grassroots work
Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.00,0:34:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've all been doing,\Nit would be impossible
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.92,0:34:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get to a residency position\Nor to have university professors
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.91,0:34:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decide to incorporate it\Ninto their curriculum
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.34,0:34:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's a lot of work.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.75,0:34:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It takes work.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.85,0:34:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even doing it just with Wikipedia\Ntakes work as we all know.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.87,0:34:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so yeah, that's an important step,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.19,0:34:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a way, in creating this atmosphere
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.37,0:34:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or this eco-system where this is a thing\Nthat we do in higher education.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.96,0:34:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're basically, as we said,\Nat the very beginning stages
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.04,0:34:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of disseminating the idea even\Nthat this is possible,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.58,0:34:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this needs to happen,\Nthat this has to happen
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.42,0:34:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's the only good tool\Nthat we have today
Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.84,0:34:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to basically teach the students\Ndata literacy.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:52.29,0:34:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to hear, Debora, a bit more\Nabout your challenges
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.10,0:35:01.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your courses because, obviously,\Nstarting is not the issue here
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.100,0:35:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you have some other challenges.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.08,0:35:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right, we have other challenges\Nin the sense that we're interacting
Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.34,0:35:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Wikidata community\Nin a weird time fashion.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.29,0:35:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all compressed into this semester,\Nand it's the second half of the semester.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.54,0:35:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when we want things changed,\Nwe want them changed fast.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.80,0:35:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Getting the property of grants\Nput through took--
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.77,0:35:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it didn't come through\Nuntil like a week
Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.81,0:35:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before the semester was over.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.60,0:35:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luckily, everybody had their quick\Nstatement sheets all ready to go.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.52,0:35:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just put the number in, pushed a button
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.64,0:35:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and did a lot of edits.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.80,0:35:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we were dead for half a year\Nbecause I only teach this class
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.57,0:35:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the summer.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.77,0:35:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have another one\Nthat we had proposed this summer,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.87,0:35:48.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the double degree one\Nbecause there are so many
Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.73,0:35:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who have double degrees\Nand we weren't sure
Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.79,0:35:57.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to model it anyway\Nbut we proposed this property
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.99,0:36:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now it's marked as,\N"This seems to be dead
Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.57,0:36:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because nobody's interested\Nin it anymore."
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.87,0:36:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, we're interested\Nbut we're not interested
Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.41,0:36:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until next summer again.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.94,0:36:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we don't have this continuous\Ninteraction with the community.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.14,0:36:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But it comes in fits and starts.\N- (Shani) Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.56,0:36:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) So in a way, what you're saying is
Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.75,0:36:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just stressing the importance\Nof being in close relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.74,0:36:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Wikidata community\Nand that is true, I would say,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.78,0:36:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to incorporating any Wiki project\Ninto the curriculum.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.62,0:36:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to have the support\Nof the community.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:30.30,0:36:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the community is not behind you,\Nin a way, it could become messy.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.18,0:36:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's a good takeaway,\NI would say in general.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.65,0:36:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,João, what about some of your challenges?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.69,0:36:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so with Wikidata particularly,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.82,0:36:48.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think one challenge that relates
Dialogue: 0,0:36:48.47,0:36:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you're saying about\Nthe lack of academic research,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.63,0:36:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also the lack of resources\Nthat we can use for students.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.28,0:37:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think we've created\Nfor one of the projects
Dialogue: 0,0:37:03.14,0:37:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was just shown,\Nyou have to have [Giovanna]
Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.14,0:37:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] are here at the conference\Nas well--Giovanna's here...
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.21,0:37:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she was my student, so--
Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.06,0:37:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were all my students.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.68,0:37:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a process of multiplication\Nto some extent with
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.75,0:37:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we are doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.15,0:37:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we needed resources.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.13,0:37:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so students could actually rely on\Nto edit Wikidata and understand
Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.65,0:37:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they need to do and to work \Non structured data on Commons.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.92,0:37:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a challenge.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.54,0:37:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we had to put time on that.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.86,0:37:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that was a major challenge\Nand another challenge that I see
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.66,0:37:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is again, always worrisome\Nis that my students
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.20,0:37:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assess Wikidata assignments as boring,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.06,0:37:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which for me is really tough to digest.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.78,0:38:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They love doing Wikipedia now.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.08,0:38:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Wikidata is just filling out\Na form for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.86,0:38:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that something\Nthat we need to improve
Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.49,0:38:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we want to use it\Nas an educational resource
Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.23,0:38:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are willing to do it,\Nthey see the purpose,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:14.99,0:38:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just the actual operation is boring.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.06,0:38:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that's something that\Nwe need to improve design
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.60,0:38:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for education\Nas an open education resource.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.06,0:38:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Yeah, I'm going to use\Nwhat you're saying--
Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.08,0:38:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(audience 2) You need to see the magic.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.92,0:38:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to introduce the magic\Nof SPARQL queries
Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.82,0:38:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all those kind of models\Ninto your students.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.26,0:38:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I have a feeling that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.73,0:38:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in Kerala last year\Nwe tried conducting
Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.08,0:38:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a series of workshops\Nfor engineering college students
Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.78,0:38:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a part of my user group activity.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.36,0:38:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nearly 12 engineering colleges,\Nwe've gone to all the colleges
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.19,0:39:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and done Wikidata workshops\Nwith hands-on editing.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.69,0:39:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yeah, it's boring,\Ninitially it's boring,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.70,0:39:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's filling up a form for students.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.11,0:39:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we switch to SPARQL queries\Nand we are showing
Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.46,0:39:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this kind of linked data models\Nand all the maps and all those stuffs,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.25,0:39:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah, then the scenario changes,\Nit's super interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.20,0:39:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It suddenly becomes a big thing\Nfor the Computer Science students.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.89,0:39:34.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also yeah, we had some partnership
Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.94,0:39:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the language departments
Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.81,0:39:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some universities.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.06,0:39:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This year, I am going to talk\Nabout Lexemes, Lexeme projects,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.95,0:39:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that language departments
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.84,0:39:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can model that language
Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.21,0:39:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and add a lot of data so--
Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.51,0:39:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that's it,\Nyou can make it interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.87,0:39:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a lot of ways out there\Nin Wikidata, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:59.52,0:40:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Yeah, thank you for adding\Nfrom your experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.65,0:40:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go back to what João was saying.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.40,0:40:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,João was making\Ntwo important points, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.75,0:40:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is about awareness\Nthat we're still lacking
Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.92,0:40:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the fact that we don't have\Nenough resources yet
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.32,0:40:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use it well in an educational setting\Nand since we're--
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.93,0:40:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe it's a good time to open\Na parenthesis and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.52,0:40:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We are just five examples\Nfrom around the world."
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.26,0:40:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously there are a lot of other people\Ndoing amazing work
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.79,0:40:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in other places in the world\Nin other academic institutions
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.12,0:40:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or educational settings\Nand we've already acknowledged
Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.49,0:40:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.54,0:40:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I encourage you to also speak to Matthew,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.34,0:40:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Jason Evans, who's here.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:51.54,0:40:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To Will Kent, can you say hi.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.43,0:40:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I specifically want\Nto acknowledge Will, who's here
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.54,0:41:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Will is part\Nof Wiki Ed Foundation.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.89,0:41:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are the education program\Nfor the U.S. and Canada
Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.93,0:41:08.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they've done,\Nthey've waited for some time
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.79,0:41:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when they do things, they do it right.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.80,0:41:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they created\Nan online training for Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.94,0:41:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is now an online module\Nthat all of us can use.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.04,0:41:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're helping to create\Nresources in that sense
Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.79,0:41:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that other people can use,\NI also want to acknowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.00,0:41:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] who's sitting here,\Nwho has been a guest lecturer
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.25,0:41:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a variety of institutions\Naround the world,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.68,0:41:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helping to eventualize, in a sense,\Nfor Wikidata and without resources
Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.74,0:41:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as his introduction to Wikidata,\Nit would have been more difficult
Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.80,0:41:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to disseminate.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.07,0:41:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is just to stress\Nthat we as a community
Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.72,0:41:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are at the very beginning stages\Nof creating actual resources
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.35,0:41:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will help other educators\Ndo this kind of work.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.30,0:41:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one challenge, resources,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.80,0:42:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to go back to assignments also.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.87,0:42:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,João mentioned that for him\Ncreating the right assignment
Dialogue: 0,0:42:05.59,0:42:06.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a challenge.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.75,0:42:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would concur.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.91,0:42:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I agreed completely.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.21,0:42:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been my challenge as well,\Nboth as an alternative assessment
Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.79,0:42:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and both in the model\Nof the whole university course
Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.40,0:42:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make sure that I have assignments\Nthat are the right size,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.19,0:42:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right scope
Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.25,0:42:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and are understandable to the students\Nand also interesting enough
Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.78,0:42:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for them to actually want to engage.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.73,0:42:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also that it's clear\Nhow I assess their progress.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.04,0:42:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in a way, a bit of what happened to me\Nusing Wikipedia in the classroom
Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.15,0:42:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is now happening with Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.08,0:42:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very ambitious at the beginning.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.99,0:42:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when I was coming\Nto support someone else's course
Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.10,0:42:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would do two sessions,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.25,0:42:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's say, of an an intro\Nand then a workshop about Wikipedia.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.28,0:43:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would strive for the students\Nto write full articles
Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.70,0:43:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to expand or do something\Nreally meaningful.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.40,0:43:07.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I did it more and more\Nthroughout the years,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.19,0:43:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found myself shrinking\Nthe size of the assignments
Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.100,0:43:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and creating like mini assignments or--
Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.22,0:43:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today we'd like to talk\Nabout mini contributions, right,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:17.08,0:43:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so finding cool and interesting ways\Nfor the students to contribute something
Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.14,0:43:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that it's not too much is important.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.83,0:43:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And just the way I went and shrunk
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.94,0:43:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the years the Wikipedia assignments,\NI find that it's really important
Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.33,0:43:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the same with Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.15,0:43:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So giving the students something\Non the one hand meaningful,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.42,0:43:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on the other hand\Nwith clear boundaries
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.78,0:43:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I could--like very clear steps\Nof what they need to do,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.00,0:43:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how they can engage\Nbut still making it interesting enough
Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.65,0:43:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been a challenge in my courses\Nand it's still a work in progress.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.02,0:43:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I keep experimenting.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.82,0:43:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think\Nthat's the most important thing
Dialogue: 0,0:43:59.77,0:44:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're all experimenting\Nwith this platform
Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.88,0:44:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and trying to look for new ways\Nto incorporate it
Dialogue: 0,0:44:07.90,0:44:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the academic curriculum\Nbecause we understand it's important.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.12,0:44:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I would totally agree\Nthat it's like you said,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:15.19,0:44:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to create that awareness,\Nand in that sense,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:19.41,0:44:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to ask the panelists\Nwhat have worked for you?
Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.62,0:44:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like what helped you do the work\Nthat you do?
Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.53,0:44:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Debora, you first.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:29.22,0:44:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the important things that I find\Nthat helped me do the work
Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.67,0:44:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is making sure that we document\Neverything on Wiki.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.91,0:44:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That we don't have thousands\Nof little documents flying
Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.97,0:44:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all over the place.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.39,0:44:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that we have our discussions on Wiki.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.02,0:44:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That we have our project page on Wiki.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:45.27,0:44:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the students hand in\Ntheir reports on Wiki
Dialogue: 0,0:44:48.09,0:44:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the next group can look back\Nand see what the others did,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.06,0:44:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what helped them, what didn't help them\Nand that helps the next group
Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.06,0:44:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start at a higher level\Nthan the group before.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:58.78,0:45:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) That is certainly one approach\Nto keep everything in one place.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:02.74,0:45:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would just suggest from my experience\Nin knowing the work that
Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.44,0:45:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others are doing\Nthat some educators choose
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.70,0:45:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- to use social media\N- No.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.70,0:45:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) as another means.\N(chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.47,0:45:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, stay on Wiki.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.28,0:45:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm actually forbidden from using Facebook
Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.70,0:45:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in instruction at my university.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.91,0:45:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I would not be able to use it.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.11,0:45:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard there must be some Facebook group\Nor something, that's no go.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.26,0:45:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be on Wiki so that's why\NI would plead for everyone else
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.30,0:45:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be keeping their work open and on Wiki.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:35.21,0:45:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Yeah and that's the beauty\Nof the Wikimedia movement,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.61,0:45:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's always diversity\Nand once you hear someone arguing
Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.86,0:45:46.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so passionately about no use of--\Nonly Wiki, you will find
Dialogue: 0,0:45:46.59,0:45:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other people as passionate,\Nsaying that the use of social media
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.25,0:45:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the best thing that could have happened\Nbecause it's helping them
Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.10,0:45:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engage with students\Nin their own platforms
Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.09,0:45:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the way that is easy for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.81,0:46:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wiki is notoriously known to not being \Nas friendly or the user interface
Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.26,0:46:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is somewhat lacking.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.21,0:46:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, but in Germany, Facebook\Nis only used by old people.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.84,0:46:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The students are on Instagram.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.10,0:46:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) It doesn't have to be Facebook\Nbut you get the idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.80,0:46:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ewan, what about you,\Nwhat has worked for you?
Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.90,0:46:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the sort of nature of the challenge\Nhas changed each year.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.36,0:46:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So initially, it was about\Nhow could we get the good information
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.12,0:46:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of access database\Nand then model it on Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.17,0:46:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was all about that\Ninitial exchange in the first year
Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.47,0:46:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there was no sort of PDF handouts\Navailable to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.76,0:46:50.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the next year it was about\Nhow can we then enrich the data,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.17,0:46:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working with Google Spreadsheets\Nand the Wikidata plug-in
Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.65,0:46:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and things like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.51,0:47:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But and then the final year\Nwas working with open refine
Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.71,0:47:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so like trying to get\Nour heads around that
Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.92,0:47:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about linking their data,\Nadding geographical data,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.16,0:47:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then putting it on a website.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.98,0:47:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So again, it was like each year\Nit was different.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:10.38,0:47:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was all--always it was getting
Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.25,0:47:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what stories and engaging tales
Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.99,0:47:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be told once we had all that data in\Nand we had the visualizations.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.75,0:47:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the students were always motivated\Nwhen they had that carrot.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.24,0:47:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They weren't always really happy\Nwith the manual labour aspect
Dialogue: 0,0:47:33.73,0:47:37.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do this, especially when you have\Nto get 50 edits on Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:47:37.97,0:47:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to do bulk uploading\Nin the first place.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.82,0:47:42.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a challenge.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.83,0:47:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the main thing that helped\Nwas having the Wikidata community primed
Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.90,0:47:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we were going to do this.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.12,0:47:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the fact that I had\Nknowledgeable people around me
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.47,0:48:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I said, "Could you be available\Nso that if we ever have questions--"
Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.63,0:48:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like Navina Evans and Martin Poulter
Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.25,0:48:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Jason Evans as well,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.24,0:48:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Simon Cobb, we just made sure\Nthat we had good people around us
Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.62,0:48:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who knew the things that we needed to know
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.38,0:48:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we needed to know them.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.22,0:48:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I agree, documentation\Nis super important,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.17,0:48:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's a number of learning hurdles\Nthat we were trying to come up against
Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.90,0:48:26.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- in a very tight window.\N- (Shani) Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.100,0:48:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Yeah and the fact that\Nthe tools continue to grow
Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.58,0:48:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to know everything\Nand you have to--
Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.95,0:48:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like there is so much to learn\Nall the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.40,0:48:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to really keep yourself
Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.69,0:48:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,focused on that, otherwise,\Nyou'd be doing maybe manual work
Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.85,0:48:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is now a tool\Nthat you don't know about
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.81,0:48:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is doing it in a much easier way.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.26,0:48:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So connecting, again,\Nto the community is important.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.99,0:48:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have final words\Non what worked for you
Dialogue: 0,0:48:51.90,0:48:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we have to wrap up very soon.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.71,0:49:02.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(João) Okay, I guess an important aspect\Nof the way I've also worked
Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.93,0:49:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the education program\Nis to connect it to a larger ecology
Dialogue: 0,0:49:07.67,0:49:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the community,\Nwithin the tech development aspect
Dialogue: 0,0:49:12.89,0:49:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our community trainings\Nthrough Wikidata labs,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.28,0:49:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's part of something.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:18.63,0:49:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have Wikimedians in Residence,\Nwe have the actual community engaging,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.52,0:49:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming for workshops,\Nwe set up an agenda for Wikidata live
Dialogue: 0,0:49:29.73,0:49:32.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can actually contribute\Nto developing the progress
Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.65,0:49:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we want to reach, we developed tools,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.58,0:49:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we do research.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.78,0:49:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's enriching to some extent
Dialogue: 0,0:49:40.88,0:49:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or it's providing a dense experience
Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.50,0:49:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the growth of the community.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.23,0:49:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a slow process.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.36,0:49:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something that needs\Nto be engaged, rethink, rethought,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:53.54,0:49:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's why this kind of conference\Nis so important.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.45,0:49:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to be in touch.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.90,0:50:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no right way\Nto basic experimenting.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:04.28,0:50:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one really knows the best way\Nhow it should be done
Dialogue: 0,0:50:09.57,0:50:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because no one has actually\Ndone it before.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.73,0:50:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are all experimenting\Nand I was--just a something
Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.24,0:50:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since I have the mic now--\NI was thinking about what Akbar Ali said.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:23.19,0:50:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first time that I used Wikipedia\Nwith high school students,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:26.79,0:50:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a complete failure.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.84,0:50:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had been very successful\Nwith Wikipedia assignments
Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.55,0:50:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with university students.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.43,0:50:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just with high school,\Nthey just didn't get it
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.52,0:50:40.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the level that we all thought\Nwe should lead
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.25,0:50:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was just too hard\Nin the process of the critical process.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.36,0:50:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then I think Wikidata\Nis actually a good resource
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.84,0:50:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for high school students.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.78,0:50:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think that opened-- an eye-opening,\Nin your presentation, I think
Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.55,0:50:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should go back to this experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.54,0:51:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) So I want to conclude the panel\Nby saying first of all,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:03.26,0:51:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you so much to all the panelists\Nand not only to them
Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.71,0:51:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also to the greater,\Nthe bigger community
Dialogue: 0,0:51:10.58,0:51:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Wikimedians working in education
Dialogue: 0,0:51:14.06,0:51:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help evangelize and do this work.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:17.22,0:51:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to conclude saying\Nor reminding rather to us,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.57,0:51:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our community that\Nthis is the second Wikidata conference.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.51,0:51:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the first Wikidata conference,\Nwe also had an education panel.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.47,0:51:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the only education session\Nin the conference.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.75,0:51:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And two years have passed,\Nso much have been done,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:40.34,0:51:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many cool experimenting\Nbut we still have only one panel
Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.55,0:51:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this conference for education.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.02,0:51:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not a criticism but rather for me\Nan eye-opening moment
Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.28,0:51:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to realize that we are still\Nat the very beginning stages
Dialogue: 0,0:51:56.21,0:51:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of showing our impact \Nand why this is important
Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.87,0:52:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the bigger Wikimedia community\Nand I look at every--
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.20,0:52:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each and every one of you sitting here\Nand listening at home
Dialogue: 0,0:52:07.70,0:52:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as people who can now go\Nand do it yourselves
Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.22,0:52:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and experimenting and connecting\Nwith the community,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.90,0:52:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about the challenges\Nsharing best practices,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:19.04,0:52:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sharing resources is basically\Nthe way to go
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.79,0:52:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so go experiment.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:25.00,0:52:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wikidata is amazing.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.88,0:52:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's such a unique tool to teach\Nall sorts of things, right
Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.74,0:52:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from data completion\Nto showing, to being able to show
Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.83,0:52:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the gender gap\Nand knowledge gaps in general
Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.72,0:52:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a visualized and cool way.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.95,0:52:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is an educational tool.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.21,0:52:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So use it and hopefully\Nby the next Wiki Data Con,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:49.16,0:52:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to see\Na bunch of other sessions
Dialogue: 0,0:52:52.37,0:52:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would-- just to say one more thing\Nand I know João has to run
Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.62,0:52:59.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the next session--about GLAM.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:59.75,0:53:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Use GLAM, use libraries,\Nwork with the low-hanging fruit
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.79,0:53:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the lecturers\Nwho are already teaching Semantic Web
Dialogue: 0,0:53:06.81,0:53:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can use this in a way\Nthat makes sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.35,0:53:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're your best friends--\Nlibraries, especially, will help you.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.74,0:53:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey.\N(chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:53:18.20,0:53:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello--Libraries will definitely help you\Nin academic institutions,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:21.96,0:53:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usually there are libraries,\Nwork with the libraries to help
Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.79,0:53:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disseminate an idea to the faculty,\Nto the students.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.30,0:53:31.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This will probably be the things\Nthat will spark the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.63,0:53:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some lecturer to try it
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.37,0:53:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we will then\Nconquer the world together.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.46,0:53:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (audience 3) [inaudible]\N- (Shani) Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:40.64,0:53:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible]
Dialogue: 0,0:53:45.08,0:53:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but so I'm a librarian\Nand I wanted to know.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.08,0:53:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But one idea is for one-off lessons\Ninstead of like semester-long
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.92,0:53:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a quarter-long because I tend to--\NI try to do more data literacy
Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.52,0:53:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with students.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:58.06,0:54:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also how to get into faculties\Nor your colleagues' brains
Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.58,0:54:04.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is great?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.95,0:54:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) João, can you give\Nthe mic to Ewan.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.75,0:54:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will release João who has to run\Nbut we will take more,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.10,0:54:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,five more minutes of questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:14.60,0:54:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just really quick then.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.88,0:54:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So yeah, so it's like Martin Poulter
Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.92,0:54:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is running how to make \Na SPARQL query workshop fun
Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.34,0:54:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,later this afternoon.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:24.51,0:54:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And I would start with that.\N- (audience 3) Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:27.16,0:54:30.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's like you were saying,\Nit's about understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:54:30.71,0:54:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this sort of like how they can visualize\Nthe data story there intially
Dialogue: 0,0:54:36.55,0:54:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and work with simple SPARQL queries\Nbuild them up and do much more.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:40.96,0:54:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That could be done quite simply\Nin one workshop.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.90,0:54:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(audience 3) Yeah, that's how I do\Nmy workshops.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.86,0:54:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do them like, okay,\Nsomebody has a question.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.85,0:54:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like, okay, what are the--\Nall of the people who won this award
Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.19,0:54:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we do that query\Nand then we see all the gaps.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.50,0:54:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so then let's fill in all these gaps.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.88,0:54:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's how I tend to do\Nthese workshops,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:57.07,0:55:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's completely over their head.\N(chuckles)
Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.22,0:55:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) Just continue, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.15,0:55:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be vigilant and continue to doing it,\Ncontinue doing the workshops
Dialogue: 0,0:55:06.12,0:55:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at one point,\Nsomeone will see the light.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:10.51,0:55:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And visualization is probably the best way\Nto show impact, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.80,0:55:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you're on the right direction\Nit sounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.51,0:55:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just go for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.43,0:55:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(audience 4) [inaudible]\NI didn't really know Wikipedia Adventure
Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.69,0:55:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then if you can make\Na Wikidata Adventure then
Dialogue: 0,0:55:28.33,0:55:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- that would be super cool to introduce.\N- (Shani) Well, we have Wikidata games.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.46,0:55:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (Shani) So we can use those.\N- (audience 4) Yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.72,0:55:38.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (Shani) But we have to conclude.\N- (Debora) We're making Wikidata games.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.53,0:55:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Shani) You're all welcome to talk to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.54,0:55:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later on, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:43.26,0:55:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)