[strumming music] [Dog barking] [Damian Ortega] I like the objects when they have experience, history. My work is a form of appropriation. Appropriation is a political statement because it gives me the chance to transform and recontextualize everyday objects we take for granted. It's just, uh, the way of working in Mexico, the way of found materials in the everyday life. "Cosmologia Doméstica" is a crazy or schizophrenic carousel, uh, kind of cosmos, more like a homemade solar system. It was my own chairs, my own table. I planned it, but never with the real context of the weather, and then we have a lot of problems after a few days because the leather strings grows and expanded with rainy weather... [Drill whirring] and we decide to bring the piece again to the studio to repair and to adjust everything. — With inertia they begin to... — Perhaps they are moving, aren't they? Right? I think one of the most exciting moments during the construction of an art work is to take some risks. The most important thing is the, um the failure because you learn a lot of things. I always had the idea to be an artist since being very young. It's funny because my--my brother likes a lot the to do experiments and to take apart kitchen appliances to see how they work, and I was watching him carefully. Yeah. We grow up like this always with curiosity because our parents was permissive with us and we had the chance toto play. [sawing] — It's your turn. [Damian Ortega] It's very exciting. It's, uh, really a revelation, what is happening inside. — Ah, esta. — OK. Entonces. — Hah. OK. Esta. I name this works "Geodes" like a geological term of the stones. In this one, we use, uh, cardboard boxes and--and newspaper... and we found this paper they find in the streets, especially during the Day of the Dead, and I think it's really beautiful, and I decide to include them into the pieces. You can see the skull, the eye, the nose, and the mouth. It's really interesting, the dialogue with the with the street. [Door lock clicking] [Drum and trumpet playing] [Damian Ortega] I was in high school, and I had really bad relation with my professors. I took one day off, and I went to visit the university to see how it works, and I get really shocked because I thought it was boring. — Hola. ¿Que tal? — Hola. I decide I create my own, um, self-organized, uh, university... and I found a painter. His name is Gabriel Orozco, and we meet every Friday in a very informal, absolutely nonacademic but self-made school... like a Renaissance studio with a mentor who shares his knowledge... but at the same time, it's a party where you can find your friends and have a beer and paint. We start to move little by little to understand the painting more as an object, as a sculpture. Then we start to use everyday objects, and you can see this change from representation to presentation... because, uh, if you, uh, don't use anymore, um, oil painting and you start to--to use tortillas, the town, the guy who works in the factory, the culture is involved in the piece. People said, "What are you doing? "You are very good to paint." "You are very good to draw, and what is this [beep]" "What you are doing?" [laughs] — Can we try it where it gets some light to see if it casts a shadow. — Si. — Maybe if we see it from this side it will look better like a shadow there. All my friends from the workshops, we are doing this show, first time all together. — Towards the outside, no? To lighten. — Right. Poquito mas. OK. [Damian Ortega] I love when a new work, a new piece needs to create their own tools. The piece which I'm doing is a big cube made with Styrofoam, and I am carving a big hole inside to create your own living space. [Scraping] The ideas comes from different places. Sometimes reading, sometimes materials give some ideas. Well, I found a beautiful book years ago, "Architecture Without Architects," and, uh, I saw beautiful pictures of, um, troglodyte, uh, house--houses which are a cave. They start to carve from inside, which is a completely different approach than architecture, and you start to understand the space from inside. I think it's interesting just to follow my own curiosity. It's important, this dialogue between ¿como se dice? uh, intuition and rationality to--to produce, uh, the click or the twist. [Speaking Spanish] I love tools. The tool is a kind of hand, an extension of your hand, and you can touch, and you can transform. You can modify, and then the tools are this extension of your own knowledge. In Mexico, we say… The tool makes the teacher. [synth music] I went to Berlin, and one of my pleasures was to visit the flea market every Sunday, and I found beautiful tools and amazing tools, different than the ones we use in Mexico. I start to collect them, and when I had many, I start to play with idea to to put all around me, to hold all of them. ♪ ♪ The idea, for me, was to permit the audience to come inside of the piece and feel how many possibilities and how we see everything through tools, through instruments to transform everything. [Speaking Spanish] I found a book to--to repair your own car, and it was some beautiful, exploded views or the car and the engine, the transmission. I decide to use the Beetle because it was my own car. It was part of my own family. Second is because it was the most popular car in Mexico City, and then, uh, I start to do these kind of exploded installations. You can find a universe in every single object. It's amazing how objects have this life and this energy. I don't know exactly how comes the idea to do a trilogy. The second piece is "Moby Dick." I have my white Beetle car, and I thought it's a kind of whale, and you need to control it, and you need to move it and to push it. It's a kind of obsession, no, how Captain Ahab becomes completely engaged with the power of that whale, and he tried to control, and my performance was a caricature of this domestic mythology. [distant drum music] The third piece is I had the idea to create this mythology of this character who was a car as a hero. To have a mythological tour, going back to the same place where the car was born in Puebla in the factory of Volkswagen and going exactly to the same place to die... and it was a sad moment, like everyone was like in a funeral, but it was a beautiful experience. [Barrel organ playing] [Dog barking] [Speaks Spanish] OK. Bueno. — One by one, make sure there are no mistakes. Bien. Es perfecto. Actually I get very obsessed with order. I try to classify the pieces and the objects to make comprehensible. Of course, it's nicer than the dark side, no, what you saw. Order is boring, and disorder is exciting... but I like this dialogue between both. I think it's also part of the language of my works. If you ask me to--to put in the balance what is more important, the object or the idea, I think the important is the combustion, the sparks between both when they create a new experience because, uh, maybe the object itself is not important, but if you put in a different context, there's, um, the chance to understand life in a different way. [soft electronic music]