[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.55,0:00:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[strumming music] Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.22,0:00:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dog barking] Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.52,0:00:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Damian Ortega] I like the objects\Nwhen they have experience, Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.84,0:00:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,history. Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.18,0:01:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My work is a form of\Nappropriation. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.38,0:01:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Appropriation is a political\Nstatement Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.40,0:01:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it gives me the chance\Nto transform and Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.21,0:01:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recontextualize Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.51,0:01:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyday objects we take for\Ngranted. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.02,0:01:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just, uh, the way of\Nworking in Mexico, Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.63,0:01:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way of found materials in\Nthe everyday life. Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.10,0:01:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Cosmologia Doméstica" is a\Ncrazy Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.66,0:01:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or schizophrenic carousel, uh,\Nkind of cosmos, Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.76,0:01:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more like a homemade solar\Nsystem. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.87,0:01:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was my own chairs, my own\Ntable. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.50,0:01:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I planned it, but never with\Nthe real context of the Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.88,0:01:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weather, Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.76,0:01:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we have a lot of\Nproblems after a few days Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.89,0:02:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the leather strings\Ngrows and expanded Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.87,0:02:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with rainy weather... Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.12,0:02:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Drill whirring] Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.36,0:02:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we decide to bring the\Npiece again to the studio Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.92,0:02:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to repair and to adjust\Neverything. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.90,0:02:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— With inertia they begin to... Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.26,0:02:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Perhaps they are moving, aren't they? Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.13,0:02:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right? Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.56,0:02:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think\None of the most exciting Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.08,0:02:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moments Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.08,0:02:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the construction of an\Nart work Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.87,0:02:33.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to take some risks. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.45,0:02:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most important thing is\Nthe, um the failure Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.45,0:02:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you learn a lot of\Nthings. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.16,0:02:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always had the idea to be an\Nartist Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.05,0:02:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since being very young. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.02,0:02:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's funny because my--my\Nbrother likes a lot the Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.27,0:02:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do experiments and to take\Napart kitchen appliances Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.96,0:03:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see how they work, Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.71,0:03:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was watching him carefully. Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.12,0:03:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We grow up like this always\Nwith curiosity Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.50,0:03:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because our parents was\Npermissive with us Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.34,0:03:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had the chance toto\Nplay. Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.86,0:03:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[sawing] Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.61,0:03:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— It's your turn. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.92,0:03:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Damian Ortega] It's very\Nexciting. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.30,0:03:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, uh, really a revelation,\Nwhat is happening inside. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.39,0:03:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Ah, esta. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.12,0:03:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— OK. Entonces. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.54,0:03:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Hah. OK. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.46,0:03:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Esta. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.96,0:03:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I name this works "Geodes" Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.37,0:03:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a geological term of the\Nstones. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.09,0:03:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this one, we use, uh,\Ncardboard boxes Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.54,0:03:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and--and newspaper... Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.55,0:04:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and \Nwe found this paper they Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.45,0:04:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find in the streets, Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.71,0:04:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially during the Day of\Nthe Dead, Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.97,0:04:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think it's really\Nbeautiful, Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.22,0:04:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I decide to include them\Ninto the pieces. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.62,0:04:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see the skull, Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.18,0:04:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eye, the nose, and the\Nmouth. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.80,0:04:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really interesting, the\Ndialogue Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.97,0:04:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the with the street. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.87,0:04:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Door lock clicking] Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.38,0:04:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Drum and trumpet playing] Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.17,0:04:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Damian Ortega] I was in\Nhigh school, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.80,0:04:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had really bad relation\Nwith my professors. Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.09,0:05:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I took one day off, and I went\Nto visit Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.10,0:05:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the university to see how it\Nworks, Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.56,0:05:08.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I get really shocked\Nbecause I thought it was Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.61,0:05:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boring. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.42,0:05:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Hola. ¿Que tal? Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.21,0:05:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Hola. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.71,0:05:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decide I\Ncreate my own, um, Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.84,0:05:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-organized, uh,\Nuniversity... Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.10,0:05:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I found a painter. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.63,0:05:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His name is Gabriel Orozco,\Nand we meet every Friday Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.53,0:05:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a very informal, absolutely\Nnonacademic Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.60,0:05:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but self-made school... Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.64,0:05:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a Renaissance studio with\Na mentor Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.76,0:05:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who shares his knowledge... Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.68,0:05:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at the same time, it's a\Nparty Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.57,0:05:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can find your\Nfriends and have a beer and Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.29,0:05:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paint. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.83,0:05:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We start to move little by\Nlittle Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.41,0:05:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand the painting\Nmore as an object, Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.45,0:05:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a sculpture. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.40,0:06:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we start to use everyday\Nobjects, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.93,0:06:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can see this change\Nfrom representation Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.73,0:06:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to presentation... Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.30,0:06:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, uh, if you, uh, don't\Nuse anymore, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.20,0:06:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, oil painting and you start\Nto--to use tortillas, Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.84,0:06:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the town, the guy who works in\Nthe factory, Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.15,0:06:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the culture is involved in the\Npiece. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.09,0:06:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People said, "What are you\Ndoing? Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.42,0:06:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You are very good to paint." Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.67,0:06:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You are very good to draw,\Nand what is this [beep]" Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.70,0:06:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What you are doing?" [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.90,0:06:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Can we try it where it gets some light Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.28,0:06:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see if it casts a shadow. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.91,0:06:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Si. Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.56,0:07:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Maybe if we see it from this side it will look better Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.41,0:07:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a shadow there. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.52,0:07:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All my\Nfriends from the workshops, Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.34,0:07:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are doing this show, first\Ntime all together. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.54,0:07:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Towards the outside, no? To lighten. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.59,0:07:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— Right. Poquito mas. OK. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.28,0:07:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Damian Ortega] I love when a new work, a new piece Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.35,0:07:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs to create their own\Ntools. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.14,0:07:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The piece which I'm doing is a\Nbig cube Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.38,0:07:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made with Styrofoam, and I am\Ncarving Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.20,0:07:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a big hole inside to create\Nyour own living space. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.62,0:07:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Scraping] Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.06,0:08:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ideas comes from different\Nplaces. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.74,0:08:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes reading, sometimes\Nmaterials Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.44,0:08:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give some ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.63,0:08:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I found a beautiful book\Nyears ago, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.22,0:08:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Architecture Without\NArchitects," Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.49,0:08:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, uh, I saw beautiful\Npictures of, um, Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.04,0:08:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,troglodyte, uh, house--houses\Nwhich are a cave. Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.40,0:08:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They start to carve from\Ninside, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.00,0:08:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a completely\Ndifferent approach than Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.79,0:08:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,architecture, Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.99,0:08:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you start to understand\Nthe space from inside. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.21,0:08:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's interesting just\Nto follow my own curiosity. Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.46,0:08:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's important, this dialogue\Nbetween ¿como se dice? uh, Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.81,0:08:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intuition and rationality Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.85,0:09:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to--to produce, uh, the click or\Nthe twist. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.36,0:09:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Speaking Spanish] Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.61,0:09:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love tools. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.59,0:09:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tool is a kind of hand, an\Nextension of your hand, Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.88,0:09:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can touch, and you can\Ntransform. Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.18,0:09:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can modify, Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.54,0:09:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the tools are this\Nextension Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.07,0:09:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your own knowledge. Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.64,0:09:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Mexico, we say… Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.90,0:09:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tool makes the teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.01,0:09:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[synth music] Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.28,0:09:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to Berlin, and one of\Nmy pleasures Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.34,0:09:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to visit the flea market\Nevery Sunday, Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.20,0:09:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I found beautiful tools\Nand amazing tools, Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.28,0:09:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different than the ones we\Nuse in Mexico. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.18,0:09:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I start to collect them, and\Nwhen I had many, Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.06,0:09:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I start to play with idea to\Nto put all around me, Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.69,0:09:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hold all of them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.94,0:10:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.58,0:10:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea, for me, was to\Npermit the audience Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.40,0:10:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come inside of the piece\Nand feel Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.67,0:10:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many possibilities Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.33,0:10:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we see everything\Nthrough tools, Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.94,0:10:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through instruments to\Ntransform everything. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.45,0:10:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Speaking Spanish] Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.52,0:10:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found a book Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.60,0:10:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to--to repair your own car, Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.90,0:10:53.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was some beautiful,\Nexploded views Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.51,0:10:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the car and the engine, the\Ntransmission. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.80,0:11:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decide to use the Beetle\Nbecause it was my own car. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.91,0:11:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was part of my own family. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.17,0:11:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Second is because it was the\Nmost popular car in Mexico City, Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.47,0:11:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then, uh, I start to do Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.36,0:11:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these kind of exploded\Ninstallations. Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.67,0:11:31.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can find a universe in\Nevery single object. Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.68,0:11:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's amazing how objects have\Nthis life and this energy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.08,0:11:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know exactly how comes\Nthe idea to do a trilogy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.12,0:11:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second piece is "Moby Dick." Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.31,0:11:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have my white Beetle car, Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.77,0:11:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought it's a kind of\Nwhale, Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.20,0:12:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you need to control it,\Nand you need Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.34,0:12:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to move it and to push it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.48,0:12:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a kind of obsession, no,\Nhow Captain Ahab Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.45,0:12:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes completely engaged\Nwith the power of that whale, Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.26,0:12:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he tried to control, Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.71,0:12:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my performance was a\Ncaricature Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.10,0:12:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this domestic mythology. Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.84,0:12:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[distant drum music] Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.08,0:12:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The third piece is I had the\Nidea to create Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.67,0:12:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this mythology of this\Ncharacter who was a car as a hero. Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.19,0:12:57.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To have a mythological tour,\Ngoing back to the same place Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.40,0:13:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the car was born in Puebla Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.38,0:13:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the factory of Volkswagen Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.31,0:13:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and going exactly to the same\Nplace to die... Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.18,0:13:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was a sad moment, Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.70,0:13:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like everyone was like in a\Nfuneral, Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.11,0:13:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was a beautiful\Nexperience. Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.52,0:13:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Barrel organ playing] Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.05,0:13:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dog barking] Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.17,0:13:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Speaks Spanish] Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.36,0:13:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.24,0:13:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bueno. Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.38,0:13:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,— One by one, make sure there are no mistakes. Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.03,0:13:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bien. Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.29,0:13:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Es perfecto. Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.74,0:13:48.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually I get\Nvery obsessed with order. Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.89,0:13:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to classify the pieces\Nand the objects Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.09,0:13:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make comprehensible. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.83,0:14:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course,\Nit's nicer than the dark side, Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.76,0:14:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no, what you saw. Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.37,0:14:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Order is boring, and disorder\Nis exciting... Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.59,0:14:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I like this dialogue\Nbetween both. Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.66,0:14:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's also part of the\Nlanguage of my works. Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.17,0:14:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you ask me to--to put in the\Nbalance Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.57,0:14:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is more important, the\Nobject or the idea, Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.80,0:14:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the important is the\Ncombustion, Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.59,0:14:32.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sparks between both when\Nthey create a new experience Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.43,0:14:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, uh, maybe the object\Nitself is not important, Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.35,0:14:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you put in a different context, Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.29,0:14:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's, um, the chance to\Nunderstand life Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.64,0:14:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a different way. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.78,0:14:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[soft electronic music]