WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.780 00:00:04.780 --> 00:00:06.950 We're happy to accept the idea that 00:00:06.950 --> 00:00:09.810 physical characteristics, like speed and 00:00:09.810 --> 00:00:12.170 endurance, have a strong genetic 00:00:12.170 --> 00:00:13.210 component. 00:00:13.210 --> 00:00:15.190 Fast dogs are bred from 00:00:15.190 --> 00:00:17.160 parents who are fast. 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:21.200 But when it comes 00:00:21.200 --> 00:00:24.240 to us, to our personality and the choices 00:00:24.240 --> 00:00:27.440 we make in life, we feel differently. 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:28.400 The 00:00:28.400 --> 00:00:30.850 idea that we are all running around a 00:00:30.850 --> 00:00:33.620 track following some predetermined 00:00:33.620 --> 00:00:36.640 genetic script is repellent. 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:37.880 But some 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:40.510 twin stories really make you wonder. 00:00:40.510 --> 00:00:41.470 Now, 00:00:41.470 --> 00:00:43.170 although the story of Jenny and Margaret 00:00:43.170 --> 00:00:45.180 is pretty surprising, it's nothing 00:00:45.180 --> 00:00:47.310 compared with the astonishing story of 00:00:47.310 --> 00:00:48.800 the Jim twins. 00:00:48.800 --> 00:00:52.620 Meet Jim Lewis and Jim 00:00:52.620 --> 00:00:53.690 Springer. 00:00:53.690 --> 00:00:55.970 They have different surnames and they 00:00:55.970 --> 00:00:58.550 don't look much alike but they are 00:00:58.550 --> 00:00:59.500 identical twins. 00:00:59.500 --> 00:01:03.790 00:01:03.790 --> 00:01:06.440 The Jims were separated as babies and 00:01:06.440 --> 00:01:08.671 were reunited when there were 39 years 00:01:08.671 --> 00:01:09.170 old. 00:01:09.170 --> 00:01:13.590 00:01:13.590 --> 00:01:17.240 It was a very good warm feeling you know? 00:01:17.240 --> 00:01:19.570 It's like you had something a favorite 00:01:19.570 --> 00:01:21.470 of yours and you lost it and you had to 00:01:21.470 --> 00:01:22.740 have it. 00:01:22.740 --> 00:01:23.250 You know? 00:01:23.250 --> 00:01:24.708 And you finally found it and that’s 00:01:24.708 --> 00:01:25.680 a good feeling 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:26.721 to find that thing. 00:01:26.721 --> 00:01:27.220 Well that's 00:01:27.220 --> 00:01:28.490 the way it was with Jim. 00:01:28.490 --> 00:01:30.710 Words came really 00:01:30.710 --> 00:01:32.750 easy 00:01:32.750 --> 00:01:35.310 When the Jims met for the first time, 00:01:35.310 --> 00:01:37.550 they discovered that their lives were 00:01:37.550 --> 00:01:39.961 peppered with bizarre coincidences. 00:01:39.961 --> 00:01:40.460 My 00:01:40.460 --> 00:01:43.310 first wife's name was Linda. 00:01:43.310 --> 00:01:44.150 My first 00:01:44.150 --> 00:01:45.610 wife's name was Linda. 00:01:45.610 --> 00:01:47.060 I divorced Linda and 00:01:47.060 --> 00:01:48.060 married Betty. 00:01:48.060 --> 00:01:49.450 And then my second wife’s 00:01:49.450 --> 00:01:52.350 name was Betty, and now I’m married to Sandy. 00:01:52.350 --> 00:01:52.990 Well 00:01:52.990 --> 00:01:54.420 she's kind of leery and hopes I 00:01:54.420 --> 00:01:56.530 don't ever come across a Sandy. 00:01:56.530 --> 00:01:57.280 I got 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.570 interested in woodwork because my 00:01:59.570 --> 00:02:02.010 father he was always doing woodwork. 00:02:02.010 --> 00:02:02.510 I've 00:02:02.510 --> 00:02:04.440 been doing woodworking for quite a long 00:02:04.440 --> 00:02:06.830 time. 00:02:06.830 --> 00:02:08.130 My first son’s name was James 00:02:08.130 --> 00:02:08.740 Alan. 00:02:08.740 --> 00:02:10.961 My first son is James Alan. 00:02:10.961 --> 00:02:11.460 My 00:02:11.460 --> 00:02:14.290 favorite beer was a Miller Lite and I've 00:02:14.290 --> 00:02:16.250 always smoked Salem cigarettes. 00:02:16.250 --> 00:02:16.840 My 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:20.530 favorite beer is Miller Lite and 00:02:20.530 --> 00:02:23.590 smoking, I smoke Camel Lite but then I 00:02:23.590 --> 00:02:25.140 smoke Salem Lite, too. 00:02:25.140 --> 00:02:25.890 I switch back and 00:02:25.890 --> 00:02:26.460 forth. 00:02:26.460 --> 00:02:27.980 I was in the Sheriff's Department in 00:02:27.980 --> 00:02:29.850 Miami County as a deputy. 00:02:29.850 --> 00:02:30.770 I was deputy 00:02:30.770 --> 00:02:32.140 sheriff for seven years. 00:02:32.140 --> 00:02:37.120 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:37.880 It's impossible 00:02:37.880 --> 00:02:39.840 to fathom the odds for some of the Jims 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:41.080 coincidences. 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:42.550 The information is simply 00:02:42.550 --> 00:02:44.050 not available. 00:02:44.050 --> 00:02:47.970 But for some of the habits 00:02:47.970 --> 00:02:52.460 they shared we can do the calculations. 00:02:52.460 --> 00:02:55.610 When the two Jims met in 1979, 00:02:55.610 --> 00:02:56.840 each was driving a Chevrolet. 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:57.340 And it 00:02:57.340 --> 00:02:59.310 turns out, according to the experts, that 00:02:59.310 --> 00:03:01.160 the chances of any one man driving a 00:03:01.160 --> 00:03:03.580 Chevrolet then was 71. 00:03:03.580 --> 00:03:04.950 Now, both men 00:03:04.950 --> 00:03:07.200 driving a Chevrolet would, therefore, be 00:03:07.200 --> 00:03:09.510 49 to 1. 00:03:09.510 --> 00:03:12.150 And they were also both heavy smokers 00:03:12.150 --> 00:03:13.190 and heavy drinkers. 00:03:13.190 --> 00:03:14.590 And the chances of 00:03:14.590 --> 00:03:17.640 any two men both being heavy drinkers 00:03:17.640 --> 00:03:20.610 would be about 35 to 1. 00:03:20.610 --> 00:03:22.110 And at that 00:03:22.110 --> 00:03:24.230 time in 1979, the chance of any two men 00:03:24.230 --> 00:03:26.800 both being heavy smokers was about 300 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.240 to 1. 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:30.070 Well the 00:03:30.070 --> 00:03:31.810 chances of each one of these on its own 00:03:31.810 --> 00:03:33.690 isn't really that surprising, but if you 00:03:33.690 --> 00:03:35.330 put them all together, the overall 00:03:35.330 --> 00:03:38.000 coincidence is really rather amazing. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:38.900 To 00:03:38.900 --> 00:03:41.600 get the odds of all the similarities 00:03:41.600 --> 00:03:44.250 being down to pure coincidence, you have 00:03:44.250 --> 00:03:45.920 to multiply them together. 00:03:45.920 --> 00:03:46.770 In betting 00:03:46.770 --> 00:03:50.140 terms it's called an accumulator, and 00:03:50.140 --> 00:03:52.610 these figures give you odds of half a 00:03:52.610 --> 00:03:55.350 million to one against two men sharing 00:03:55.350 --> 00:03:58.017 those habits by pure chance. 00:03:58.017 --> 00:04:02.000 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.660 Same sort of odds I might get here on 00:04:04.660 --> 00:04:07.540 any one dog winning every race till the 00:04:07.540 --> 00:04:09.000 end of the season. 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:10.890 It will be impossible 00:04:10.890 --> 00:04:12.259 way to win 50 races. 00:04:12.259 --> 00:04:13.050 And if you think it 00:04:13.050 --> 00:04:15.350 could win 50 races, I would offer you a 00:04:15.350 --> 00:04:16.418 half a million to one. 00:04:16.418 --> 00:04:16.959 Has that ever 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:17.470 happened? 00:04:17.470 --> 00:04:19.269 It's never happened, no, and it 00:04:19.269 --> 00:04:20.230 never would. 00:04:20.230 --> 00:04:23.960 So you’d be safe as a bookie here? 00:04:23.960 --> 00:04:25.280 You would be completely safe. 00:04:25.280 --> 00:04:26.800 If you take any two people and 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:28.940 look hard enough, you'll always find some 00:04:28.940 --> 00:04:31.900 similarities, but the two Jims are so 00:04:31.900 --> 00:04:32.669 alike 00:04:32.669 --> 00:04:34.210 despite being brought up by different 00:04:34.210 --> 00:04:36.840 parents in different homes that it's 00:04:36.840 --> 00:04:38.800 hard to escape the thought that they've 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:41.470 been shaped by forces deeper and 00:04:41.470 --> 00:04:43.770 ultimately more important than just 00:04:43.770 --> 00:04:45.280 their home environment. 00:04:45.280 --> 00:04:46.980 Psychologist Tom 00:04:46.980 --> 00:04:50.170 Bouchard has met more separated twins 00:04:50.170 --> 00:04:52.380 than anyone else in the world but the 00:04:52.380 --> 00:04:54.440 Jims were his first. 00:04:54.440 --> 00:04:55.850 They kicked off a 20 00:04:55.850 --> 00:04:58.300 year study that's changing the way we 00:04:58.300 --> 00:05:00.110 think about being human. 00:05:00.110 --> 00:05:01.120 The first week 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:03.940 we was there we answered 10,000 questions, 00:05:03.940 --> 00:05:05.730 true or false and multiplication. 00:05:05.730 --> 00:05:06.230 We look 00:05:06.230 --> 00:05:10.120 at their hobbies, their the jobs they've 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:13.220 held, the personality traits, their 00:05:13.220 --> 00:05:14.290 abilities. 00:05:14.290 --> 00:05:16.660 They took photos of our ears, our 00:05:16.660 --> 00:05:19.220 eyes, and they took her fingerprints. 00:05:19.220 --> 00:05:19.720 Their 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:23.620 height, their weight, their brainwaves. 00:05:23.620 --> 00:05:24.240 The 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:24.950 twins 00:05:24.950 --> 00:05:27.870 IQ and personality profile was 00:05:27.870 --> 00:05:29.300 strikingly similar. 00:05:29.300 --> 00:05:30.790 It was as if they had 00:05:30.790 --> 00:05:33.390 tested the same person twice. 00:05:33.390 --> 00:05:36.190 00:05:36.190 --> 00:05:38.250 The very first morning we started to 00:05:38.250 --> 00:05:40.390 work with them, one of the twins put his 00:05:40.390 --> 00:05:43.640 hand on the on the table and I noticed 00:05:43.640 --> 00:05:45.480 that he bit his nails. 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:46.630 I remember saying 00:05:46.630 --> 00:05:48.350 to myself now isn't that interesting? 00:05:48.350 --> 00:05:50.800 Wouldn't it be interesting if his twin 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:52.580 brother bit his nails? 00:05:52.580 --> 00:05:53.180 And as I was 00:05:53.180 --> 00:05:54.763 thinking that his twin brother put his 00:05:54.763 --> 00:05:56.660 hand on the table and sure enough, they 00:05:56.660 --> 00:05:58.380 were both nail biters, and I said, you 00:05:58.380 --> 00:06:00.670 know that's not on any psychological 00:06:00.670 --> 00:06:03.690 test or any psychological characteristic. 00:06:03.690 --> 00:06:09.370 the way you wear your hat the way you 00:06:09.370 --> 00:06:13.820 sip your tea the gyms were only the 00:06:13.820 --> 00:06:16.900 first of hundreds of separated twins to 00:06:16.900 --> 00:06:20.650 pass through bouchard's hands fewer as 00:06:20.650 --> 00:06:22.970 remarkable as them in fact some were 00:06:22.970 --> 00:06:28.230 quite dissimilar there are not carbon 00:06:28.230 --> 00:06:30.391 copies of each other they each have the 00:06:30.391 --> 00:06:31.890 differences are great enough so they 00:06:31.890 --> 00:06:35.410 each have their own personality etc but 00:06:35.410 --> 00:06:37.800 when you work with them you can just see 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.370 the kind of similarity in the underlying 00:06:40.370 --> 00:06:44.860 template the way you weigh the two twins 00:06:44.860 --> 00:06:50.630 are like variations on a theme 00:06:50.630 --> 00:06:56.560 the memory of all of 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:00.740 take that away from me away what 00:07:00.740 --> 00:07:03.240 behavior geneticists have discovered is 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.230 that most characteristics that you can 00:07:06.230 --> 00:07:08.750 measure reliably with psychological 00:07:08.750 --> 00:07:11.750 tests mental abilities personality and 00:07:11.750 --> 00:07:14.510 vocational interest they all show 00:07:14.510 --> 00:07:17.210 genetic influence in the range of 40 to 00:07:17.210 --> 00:07:20.210 50 percent but that's typically what we 00:07:20.210 --> 00:07:25.370 find oh this is common level of genetic 00:07:25.370 --> 00:07:28.490 influence across lots and lots of traits 00:07:28.490 --> 00:07:33.940 the way you hold your knife the way we 00:07:33.940 --> 00:07:37.060 danced over all the twins who had grown 00:07:37.060 --> 00:07:39.940 up in different homes were just as alike 00:07:39.940 --> 00:07:42.620 psychologically and physically as the 00:07:42.620 --> 00:07:49.360 twins who have grown up together no they 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:57.940 come 00:07:57.940 --> 00:08:09.560 and there was one other quite startling 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:17.060 finding 00:08:17.060 --> 00:08:19.760 probing beneath the surface they found 00:08:19.760 --> 00:08:21.750 the percentage of fat in Margaret and 00:08:21.750 --> 00:08:26.580 Jenny's bodies is the same and their 00:08:26.580 --> 00:08:31.150 bone density is virtually identical 00:08:31.150 --> 00:08:36.330 they are also both intensely religious 00:08:36.330 --> 00:08:39.510 God is love and God showed his love for 00:08:39.510 --> 00:08:42.530 us by sending his only Son on into the 00:08:42.530 --> 00:08:44.900 world deal with Yun Jie light far 00:08:44.900 --> 00:08:48.470 Liat bead and my Nene Cal bill truth or 00:08:48.470 --> 00:08:53.690 if from the day I found out that I had a 00:08:53.690 --> 00:08:57.470 twin sister I prayed every day my 00:08:57.470 --> 00:09:00.230 prayers were answered God knew what I 00:09:00.230 --> 00:09:05.840 was alone and evilly he found me for 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:11.020 Jenny I really believe this as identical 00:09:11.020 --> 00:09:13.560 twins have a similar intensity of 00:09:13.560 --> 00:09:16.230 religious belief is something that Tom 00:09:16.230 --> 00:09:18.890 bouchard's twin studies had consistently 00:09:18.890 --> 00:09:22.410 confirmed we had eventually published a 00:09:22.410 --> 00:09:24.670 paper on it on we call the heritability 00:09:24.670 --> 00:09:27.410 of religiousness and we found a 00:09:27.410 --> 00:09:31.560 significant genetic effect now there are 00:09:31.560 --> 00:09:33.960 people who just find this hard to 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:35.210 believe 00:09:35.210 --> 00:09:39.149 well I find it hard to believe I didn't 00:09:39.149 --> 00:09:40.690 believe it when we started I wouldn't 00:09:40.690 --> 00:09:44.500 have even studied it 00:09:44.500 --> 00:09:46.970 what Boosh art has concluded from 20 00:09:46.970 --> 00:09:49.830 years work is that genes are just as 00:09:49.830 --> 00:09:52.560 important as environment in shaping 00:09:52.560 --> 00:09:55.600 personality and social attitude and that 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.030 applies as much to the rest of us as it 00:09:58.030 --> 00:10:10.030 does to twins 00:10:10.030 --> 00:10:12.550 no one really knows how personality can 00:10:12.550 --> 00:10:18.670 be laid down when egg meets sperm 00:10:18.670 --> 00:10:22.800 my own belief is that what are inherited 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:25.440 are genes that create structures in the 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:29.010 brain and these structures in the brain 00:10:29.010 --> 00:10:30.900 drive behavior 00:10:30.900 --> 00:10:38.200 it's certainly true there are some 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:40.690 aspects of personality that you see from 00:10:40.690 --> 00:10:44.320 a very early age so early they seem to 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:47.040 be pre-programmed 00:10:47.040 --> 00:10:49.410 English (auto-generated) 00:10:49.410 --> 00:10:51.829