1 00:00:02,473 --> 00:00:05,032 My names Warren Crock and this is my wife Sherri Crock 2 00:00:05,032 --> 00:00:06,744 and we've been married for seventeen years. 3 00:00:06,744 --> 00:00:08,972 Sherri and I both worked together, when we were- 4 00:00:08,972 --> 00:00:11,132 I was seventeen, she was sixteen. 5 00:00:11,132 --> 00:00:13,591 Worked at a movie theater right off a CN lane. 6 00:00:13,591 --> 00:00:16,452 It was our Summer job. 7 00:00:16,452 --> 00:00:18,053 And, you know, that's kinda how it all started. 8 00:00:18,053 --> 00:00:19,913 [both chuckle] 9 00:00:19,913 --> 00:00:21,174 I thought he was funny. 10 00:00:21,174 --> 00:00:22,684 That's why I like him. 11 00:00:22,684 --> 00:00:23,392 And cute. 12 00:00:23,392 --> 00:00:24,784 [laughs] 13 00:00:24,784 --> 00:00:25,692 Don't forget that part. 14 00:00:25,692 --> 00:00:28,014 [both laugh] 15 00:00:28,014 --> 00:00:30,923 (Warren) I was pretty much the first guy that she had ever- 16 00:00:30,923 --> 00:00:34,973 I was a shy kinda kid, you know, I didn't venture out too much. 17 00:00:34,973 --> 00:00:37,233 And that was my first job and then it was just, 18 00:00:37,233 --> 00:00:40,105 we all got along, everybody that worked there, 19 00:00:40,105 --> 00:00:42,043 we had a good time. 20 00:00:42,043 --> 00:00:43,755 And that's how we dated a lot too, everyone would go in 21 00:00:43,755 --> 00:00:45,175 like, a group. 22 00:00:45,175 --> 00:00:49,113 We would all go out, and so it didn't look like we were together. 23 00:00:49,113 --> 00:00:54,803 'Cause there was other, you know, couples, and... so but yeah 24 00:00:54,803 --> 00:00:59,124 I was kinda that way, you don't really tell me 25 00:00:59,124 --> 00:01:02,002 what I can do. 26 00:01:02,002 --> 00:01:04,785 You know, I just wanted to do whatever I wanted to do. 27 00:01:04,785 --> 00:01:08,235 and I liked him, and he was nice and protective 28 00:01:08,235 --> 00:01:10,445 and he was funny and he reminded me kinda 29 00:01:10,445 --> 00:01:12,825 of my daddy. 30 00:01:12,825 --> 00:01:16,676 It was just, it worked it's way out and you know, 31 00:01:16,676 --> 00:01:19,135 he asked me to marry him, and we did, and we did all of it 32 00:01:19,135 --> 00:01:21,136 in a kinda... undercover. 33 00:01:21,136 --> 00:01:23,526 It was just, worked out like that. 34 00:01:23,526 --> 00:01:25,991 (Warren) I've always told everyone and anybody that will 35 00:01:25,991 --> 00:01:29,055 listen if you're gonna get in an interracial relationship, 36 00:01:29,055 --> 00:01:31,915 and it's something that you really want, you gotta work twice as hard 37 00:01:31,915 --> 00:01:35,044 as the average relationship. 38 00:01:35,044 --> 00:01:38,025 Because of the things that you're gonna face. 39 00:01:38,025 --> 00:01:41,157 I mean, you run the risk of losing your family, your friends, 40 00:01:41,157 --> 00:01:47,497 you got the social pressure. 41 00:01:47,497 --> 00:01:50,107 I mean, it's extremely, extremely extremely a lot more difficult 42 00:01:50,107 --> 00:01:52,266 than just a normal relationship. 43 00:01:52,266 --> 00:01:54,496 I've had offices before where I wasn't really even comfortable 44 00:01:54,496 --> 00:01:56,466 with putting pictures of my wife and my kids up. 45 00:01:56,466 --> 00:02:00,806 Because, you know, not sure how management or upper 46 00:02:00,806 --> 00:02:02,827 management is gonna take that. 47 00:02:02,827 --> 00:02:06,998 Especially back when we were young, when we first had kids. 48 00:02:06,998 --> 00:02:09,256 At our jobs, you were kinda.. 49 00:02:09,256 --> 00:02:12,297 I remember first putting a picture out- like, you know, 50 00:02:12,297 --> 00:02:14,738 that's your baby. 51 00:02:14,738 --> 00:02:16,577 [laughs] 52 00:02:16,577 --> 00:02:20,227 Yeah she was caramel. So- 53 00:02:20,227 --> 00:02:23,917 So I'm like yes, and it kinda breaks the ice but you know, 54 00:02:23,917 --> 00:02:27,577 you're kinda nervous to put it out like that. 55 00:02:27,577 --> 00:02:32,067 Sixteen years ago, but yeah. 56 00:02:32,067 --> 00:02:36,617 (Sherri) When we got married, both of our mothers were there. 57 00:02:36,617 --> 00:02:41,398 Nobody else, but we didn't invite anybody else I don't think. 58 00:02:41,398 --> 00:02:43,246 I don't know if they would have came anyway. 59 00:02:43,246 --> 00:02:44,968 [both chuckle] 60 00:02:44,968 --> 00:02:48,759 We had a small inner circle initially, just due to the fact that of the 61 00:02:48,759 --> 00:02:51,588 whole interracial deal. (Sherri) yeah. 62 00:02:51,588 --> 00:02:55,608 We, you know, when we got started it was different 63 00:02:55,608 --> 00:02:57,609 than it is now. 64 00:02:57,609 --> 00:03:00,079 Sherri and I would go to the mall to work, she would walk 65 00:03:00,079 --> 00:03:03,643 five steps ahead of me, that type of stuff, 66 00:03:03,643 --> 00:03:07,540 So, we just had to keep a- we kept our relationship 67 00:03:07,540 --> 00:03:08,669 in the background. 68 00:03:08,669 --> 00:03:14,149 Just due to the environment we were in. 69 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:17,178 And her parents were reluctant initially, 70 00:03:17,178 --> 00:03:20,869 you know, once we got married, and they got to meet me 71 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:25,309 and see who I was and grandkids started coming along, 72 00:03:25,309 --> 00:03:27,237 Everything pretty much played itself out. 73 00:03:27,237 --> 00:03:30,519 Her daddy died in '06 and at the time of his death, 74 00:03:30,519 --> 00:03:32,670 I mean me and him were like best buddies 75 00:03:32,670 --> 00:03:34,109 whereas I didn't meet him till we were married. 76 00:03:34,109 --> 00:03:35,840 -Right. 77 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,350 So, we went from that point to-- 78 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:39,029 That's the first time they met, we were already married. 79 00:03:39,029 --> 00:03:40,961 [both laugh] 80 00:03:40,961 --> 00:03:42,529 Yeah, so. 81 00:03:42,529 --> 00:03:45,591 But it's true, when were dating we wouldn't 82 00:03:45,591 --> 00:03:50,022 hold hands, we wouldn't- we walked apart from each other. 83 00:03:50,022 --> 00:03:54,051 We didn't have no public display of affection. 84 00:03:54,051 --> 00:03:56,321 (Warren) My mother was really worried about us initially 85 00:03:56,321 --> 00:03:57,880 to the fact that she thought somebody would come in 86 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,551 and slaughter us in the middle of the night 87 00:03:59,551 --> 00:04:00,682 and all that kind of stuff. 88 00:04:00,682 --> 00:04:02,491 She was concerned for my safety, not knowing- 89 00:04:02,491 --> 00:04:07,001 like I said, she didn't meet Sherri's parents until way down the road 90 00:04:07,124 --> 00:04:09,174 and I didnt meet them until we were married. 91 00:04:09,174 --> 00:04:11,734 So, we really didn't know what we were up against. 92 00:04:11,734 --> 00:04:14,685 Not that we were afraid of Sherri's parents were gonna 93 00:04:14,685 --> 00:04:17,465 hurt us, but we just didn't know, I mean, 94 00:04:17,465 --> 00:04:20,675 you know, I moved from Glenn Oaks in Baton Rouge 95 00:04:20,675 --> 00:04:22,736 where my parents have lived their whole life to 96 00:04:22,736 --> 00:04:25,528 Prairieville, where they were hosting KKK meetings and stuff, 97 00:04:25,528 --> 00:04:30,315 so, there were some concerns initially, on my families behalf 98 00:04:30,315 --> 00:04:32,946 about our safety, but I mean, I was concerned. 99 00:04:32,946 --> 00:04:37,696 I used to have nightmares about someone coming into the house, 100 00:04:37,696 --> 00:04:39,186 hurting us. 101 00:04:39,186 --> 00:04:42,105 And you know, the funny thing- it sounds really funny, 102 00:04:42,105 --> 00:04:46,336 but when I put my family in a car, we travel somewhere, 103 00:04:46,336 --> 00:04:48,606 I make sure the path is a safe path. 104 00:04:48,606 --> 00:04:51,207 We don't go off to backroads, we don't do any of that kinda stuff. 105 00:04:51,207 --> 00:04:55,265 We don't stop in the lil' mom and pop gas station off the road 106 00:04:55,265 --> 00:04:56,417 or anything like that. 107 00:04:56,417 --> 00:04:59,887 We stay on the main highway, and that's due to the fact 108 00:04:59,887 --> 00:05:02,488 that you don't know how people feel around the country, 109 00:05:02,488 --> 00:05:05,237 about our circumstances. 110 00:05:05,237 --> 00:05:07,876 (Warren) I mean, we do not venture off track. 111 00:05:07,876 --> 00:05:12,007 So I mean, we say everything's okay but we still have those deep rooted 112 00:05:12,007 --> 00:05:15,307 fears regarding. 113 00:05:15,307 --> 00:05:17,807 Everybody has fears, but we have those pertaining to our 114 00:05:17,807 --> 00:05:19,746 status. 115 00:05:19,746 --> 00:05:23,062 Even like buying a home, nervous about the neighbors, 116 00:05:23,062 --> 00:05:25,868 what they would think, are they're gonna be ugly. 117 00:05:25,868 --> 00:05:28,518 (Warren) My thing about it all has always been that if 118 00:05:28,518 --> 00:05:31,707 I had a closed mind, or if Sherri would have had a closed mind, 119 00:05:31,707 --> 00:05:33,809 this wouldn't exist. 120 00:05:33,809 --> 00:05:35,888 I wouldn't have met someone that I've been with now for 121 00:05:35,888 --> 00:05:37,247 twenty-two years. 122 00:05:37,247 --> 00:05:39,287 I could have been on my third marriage now, 123 00:05:39,287 --> 00:05:42,489 or my fourth marriage, but, you know, we were open. 124 00:05:42,489 --> 00:05:46,209 We saw love, we found love, we embraced love and 125 00:05:46,209 --> 00:05:50,969 you know, twenty-two years later, we've got each other, 126 00:05:50,969 --> 00:05:53,438 we've got our family, and it's not something that 127 00:05:53,438 --> 00:05:56,399 we feel that we should necessarily promote. 128 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:59,229 I mean, I just kinda think it is what it is. 129 00:05:59,229 --> 00:06:04,459 You find that someone, no matter what race they are. 130 00:06:04,459 --> 00:06:06,279 That's who you love. 131 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,760 It's that simple. 132 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,269 I don't think it's a thing where you need to hang 133 00:06:09,269 --> 00:06:11,819 a banner and say "Yay, interracial love" and all that kinda stuff 134 00:06:11,819 --> 00:06:17,059 but, if that happens, then you need to open minded 135 00:06:17,059 --> 00:06:19,479 enough to embrace it because with a closed mind, 136 00:06:19,479 --> 00:06:22,349 I mean, there's people walking around every single day 137 00:06:22,349 --> 00:06:25,620 that's closed minded, that may have possibly passed 138 00:06:25,620 --> 00:06:30,019 up on that love of their life, for whatever reason.