[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eric Hirshberg: So I assume that Norman\Ndoesn't need much of an introduction, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but TED's audience is global -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's diverse -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I've been tasked\Nwith starting with his bio, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which could easily take up\Nthe entire 18 minutes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so instead we're going to do\N93 years in 93 seconds or less. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were born in New Hampshire. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Norman Lear: New Haven, Connecticut. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: New Haven, Connecticut. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: There goes [70] seconds. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: Nailed it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were born in New Haven, Connecticut. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your father was a con man, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got that right. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was taken away to prison\Nwhen you were nine years old. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You flew 52 missions\Nas a fighter pilot in World War II. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You came back to -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: Radio operator. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: You came to LA\Nto break into Hollywood, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first in publicity, then in TV. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had no training as a writer, formally, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you hustled your way in. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your breakthrough -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your debut -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a little show\Ncalled All in the Family. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You follow that up with a string of hits Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to this day is unmatched\Nin Hollywood: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sanford and Son, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maude, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good Times, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Jeffersons, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One Day at a Time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to name literally a fraction of them. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only are they all commercially -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only are they all\Ncommercially successful, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but many of them push our culture forward Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by giving the underrepresented\Nmembers of society Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their first prime-time voice. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have seven shows\Nin the top 10 at one time. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At one point, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you aggregate an audience of 120\Nmillion people per week, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching your content. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's more than the audience\Nfor Super Bowl 50 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which happens once a year. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: Holy shit. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: And we're not even\Nto the holy shit part. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You land yourself\Non Richard Nixon's enemies list -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had one. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's an applause line, too. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're inducted into the TV Hall of Fame\Non the first day that it exists, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then came the movies. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fried Green Tomatoes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Princess Bride, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stand By Me, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Spinal Tap. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, just to name a fraction. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you wipe the slate clean -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start a third act as a political activist\Nfocusing on protecting the first amendment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the separation of church and state. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start People For The American Way; Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you buy the Declaration of Independence Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give it back to the people; Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you stay active in both entertainment\Nand politics until the ripe of age of 93, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you write a book Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make a documentary\Nabout your life story. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after all that, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they finally think you're\Nready for a TED Talk. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: I love being here. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I love you for agreeing to do this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: Thank you for asking. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's my honor. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here's my first question. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was your mother proud of you? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: My mother ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what a place to start. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me put it this way, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I came back from the war, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she showed me the letters\Nthat I had written her from overseas, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were absolute love letters. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This really sums up my mother. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were love letters, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if I had written them to -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were love letters. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A year later I asked my mother\Nif I could have them Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'd like to keep them\Nall the years of my life ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she had thrown them away. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's my mother. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The best way I can sum it up\Nin more recent time is -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is also more recent times -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a number of years ago, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they started the Hall of Fame\Nto which you referred, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a Sunday morning Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I got a call from the fellow who ran\Nthe TV Academy of Arts and Sciences, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was calling me to tell me\Nthey had met all day yesterday Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was confidentially telling me\Nthey were going to start a hall of fame Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these were the inductees. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started to say Richard Nixon Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Richard Nixon -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: I don't think he was on their list. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: William Paley who started CBS, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David Sarnoff who started NBC, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edward R. Morrow, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the greatest of the foreign\Ncorrespondents, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Patty Chayefsky -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the best writer\Nthat ever came out of television -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Milton Berle, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lucille Ball Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: Not bad. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: I call my mother immediately\Nin Hartford, Connecticut. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Mom, this is what's happened, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're starting a hall of fame," Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tell her the list of names and me, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she says, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Listen, if that's what they\Nwant to do, who am I to say?" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: So that's ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's my Ma -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it earns that kind of a laugh Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because everybody\Nhas a piece of that mother. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: And the sitcom Jewish mother\Nis born right there. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So your father also played\Na large role in your life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly by his absence. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell us what happened when\Nyou were nine years old. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: He was ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was flying to Oklahoma Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with three guys that my mother said, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Don't -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want you to have anything\Nto do with them, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't trust those men." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's when I heard, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe not for the first time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Stifle yourself, Jeanette, I'm going." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he went. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It turns out he was selling -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,picking up some fake bonds, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which he was flying\Nacross the country to sell. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the fact that he was\Ngoing to Oklahoma in a plane, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was going to bring me\Nback a 10-gallon hat, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like Ken Maynard,\Nmy favorite cowboy wore. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know this was a few years after\NLindburgh crossed the atlantic-- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean it was exotic\Nthat my father was going there. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when he came back, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they arrested him as he got off the plane. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That night newspapers\Nwere all over the house, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my father was with his hat\Nin front of his face, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[manicled] to a detector. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my mother was selling the furniture\Nbecause we were leaving -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she couldn't afford -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she didn't want to stay\Nin that state of shame, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Chelsea, Massachussetts. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And selling the furniture, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the house was loaded with people, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the middle of all of that, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some strange horse's ass\Nput his hand on my shoulder and said, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, you're the man of the house now." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm crying and this asshole says\N"You're the man of the house now," Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that was the moment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I began to understand the foolishness\Nof the human condition. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it took a lot of years to look back at it\Nand feel it was a benefit, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: Well it's interesting\Nyou call it a benefit. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listening to you -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: Benefit in that it gave\Nme that springboard. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean that I could think Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how foolish it was to say\Nto this crying nine year old boy, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"you're the man of the house now." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I was crying and then he said, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And men of the house don't cry." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I look back and I think Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's when I learned\Nthe foolishness of the human condition, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's been that gift that I've used. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: So you have father who's absent, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have a mother for whom\Napparently nothing is good enough. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think that starting out as a kid\Nwho maybe never felt heard Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started you down a journey Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that ended with you being an adult Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a weekly audience\Nof 120 million people? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: I love the way you put that question. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I guess I spent my life wanting -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if anything, wanting to be heard. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a simple answer, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was what sparked -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's are other things, too. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When my father was away, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was fooling with a crystal radio set\Nthat we had made together, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I caught a signal that turned\Nout to be Father Coughlin on -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, somebody laughed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But not funny, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was a horse's-- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a horse's ass -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was very vocal\Nabout hating the New Deal Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Roosevelt and Jews. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First time I ran into an understanding Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there were people\Nin this world that hated me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was born to Jewish parents. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that had an enormous\Neffect on my life. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: So you had a childhood Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with little in the way of strong\Nmale role models, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except for your grandfather. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell us about him. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: Oh, my grandfather. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well he was the way I always talked about, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that grandfather. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were parades, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of parades when I was a kid. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were parades on Veteran's Day, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on President's -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there wasn't a President's Day. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was for Abraham Lincoln's birthday, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,George Washington's birthday Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Flag Day, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lots of little parades. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My grandfather used to take me, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd stand on the street corner, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he'd hold my hand Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I look up and I'd see a tear\Nrunning down his eye. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he meant a great deal to me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he used to write Presidents\Nof the United States, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every President -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every letter started, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My dearest, darling Mr. President," Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he'd tell him something\Nwonderful about what he did. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when he disagreed\Nwith the President he also wrote, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My dearest, darling Mr. President, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't I tell you last week...?" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would run down the stairs\Nevery now and then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pick up the mail -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were three flights up, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,74 York Street, New Haven, Connecticut -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'd pick up a little white envelope\Nreading, "Shia C. called at this address," Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the story I have told\Nabout my grandfather -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: They wrote him back\Non the envelopes -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: They wrote back. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I have shown them myself, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going way back to Phil Donahue\Nand others before him, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dozens -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of interviews in which I told that story. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This will be the second time I have said\Nthe whole story was a lie. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth was my grandfather\Ntook me to parades, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had lots of those. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is a tear came down his eye. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is he would write\Nand occasional letter Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I did pick up those little envelopes. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, "My dearest darling Mr. President", Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the rest of it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a story I borrowed from a good friend\Nwhose grandfather was that grandfather, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who wrote those letters. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I mean, I stole Arthur\NMarshall's grandfather Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and made him my own. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Always. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I started to write my memoir -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even this, how about that? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even this I get to experience. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I started to write the memoir Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started to think about it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did a reasonable amount of crying Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I realized how much\NI needed the father, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much so that I appropriated\NArthur Marshall's grandfather. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much so, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the word "father" -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have six kids by the way, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my favorite role in life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and husband to my wife Lynn -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I stole the man's identity\Nbecause I needed the father. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I've gone through a whole lot of shit Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and come out on the other side, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I actually -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best thing -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the worst thing -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,word I'd like to use about him\Nand think about him is rascal. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that he lied\Nand stole and cheated, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and went to prison ... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I submerge that in the word "rascal". Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: Well there's a saying that amatuers\Nborrow and professionals steal. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: I'm a pro. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: And that quote is widely\Nattributed to John Lennon, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it turns out he\Nstole it from T.S. Eliot. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you're in good company. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: I want to talk about your work. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously the impact of your work\Nhas been written about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm sure you've\Nheard about it all your life: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it meant to people, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it meant to your culture, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you heard the applause when I just\Nnamed the names of the shows, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you raised half the people\Nin the room through your work. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But have there ever been any stories\Nabout the impact of your work Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that surprised you? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: Oh, god -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surprised me and delighted me\Nfrom head to toe. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was an evening wtih Norman Lear\Nwithin the last year Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a group of Hip-Hop\Nimpressarios and performers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Academy Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put together. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The subtext of "An Evening With ..." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was "what do a 92-year-old Jew" -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then 92 -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and the world of Hip-Hop\Nhave in common?" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Russel Simmons was among seven on stage. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when he talked about the shows, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wasn't talking about the Hollywood\NGeorge Jeffereson in the Jeffersons Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the show that was\Nthe "Number Five" show Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was talking about a simple thing\Nthat made a big -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: Impact on him? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: An impact on him -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was hesitating over the word, "change." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hard for me to imagine, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, changing somebody's life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's how he put it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He saw George Jefferson\Nwrite a check on The Jeffersons, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he never knew that a Black man\Ncould write a check. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says it just\Nimpacted his life so -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it changed his life. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I hear things like that -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little things -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I know that there isn't\Nanybody in this audience Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wasn't likely responsible today for\Nsome little thing they did for somebody, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as little as a smile\Nor an unexpected "hello," Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's how little this thing was. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It could have been the dresser of the set Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who put the checkbook on the thing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and George had nothing to do while\Nhe was speaking so he wrote it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: So in addition to the long list\NI shared in the beginning, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should have also mentioned\Nthat you invented Hip-Hop. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: Well -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EH: I want to talk about -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NL: Well, then do it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)