Psychopathic offenders may be
rapists, child molesters,

sadists, and or any type of sex
offender.

They may not even be sex
offenders but engage in

other forms of criminal
or exploitive behavior instead.

The hallmark of psychopathy is
that the person doesn't have

a problem in one area,

such as sex, but has a pervasive
lack of responsibility as

well as a lack of attachment to other people.

In this next section,
Robert describes behavior

that puts him in the category of
power and controlled rapist but

doesn't necessarily tell us his problems are pervasive and

that he has no capacity for attachment.

That will come later.

Yeah, it was power and control.

I was grooming her from the
age of...

It started about the age of
one.

When I was the punisher.
I was the...

I was the one who decided
punishment over the children.

I was the one who spanked the
children.

I was the one who punished the
children.

And if I seen the children
doing anything wrong,

even bickering and arguing
amongst themselves,

I would whip them and tell them,
you know, just, just kids playing...

I would tell myself, well,
she's not going to be like that.

She is going to be the
perfect mate,

and I told myself that.

And I didn't molest her
then.

(woman) The perfect mate?
The perfect mate.

I was grooming her to fit
me. To fit me.

(woman) At what age?

I started at about a year.

I started grooming her and
whooping her and telling

her this...

To do this, not do that.

Then I molested her at 18 months
old.

And I thought to myself, I said,
well, this is going to be easy.

This is going to be easy.

I'm going to have my own
child,

my own step-daughter, which is
really not blood related to me.

And I'm telling myself these
things.

It's not blood related to me.

When she grows up to be 14, 15
years old,

I will have the perfect sexual
mate for sexual purposes.

Anything else didn't matter.

It was sex.
That was it.

I didn't care about...

Really, honestly, I didn't love
the child.

I wanted the child for my own
purposes.

I was, I was the one potty
training her.

Okay?

My wife let me potty train her.

I potty trained her.

And at first when I was potty
training her,

I gave her a break.

Every now and then she could use
the bathroom in her pants,

but I was setting her on that
stool for sometimes hours at a time,

telling her to use the bathroom there.

She got started doing it.

She started using the
potty,

and then all of a sudden she would...

I had been doing this for about
three, four months,

and then all of a sudden she
would use the bathroom in her pants,

and I would tear her hide up.

I would actually put bruises on
her butt by spanking her

by using the bathroom in her
pants.

How did you get a little kid to
sit on the potty for hours?

That's an awful long time.

Yell and scream.

Tell her you're going to
use that potty,

and you don't get off that potty
until you use that potty.

Have you used the potty yet?

(woman) No.

You're going to sit there
until you use it.

And, and as I look back, I was
done that way,

the same way she was done.

(woman) How do you justify
it in your head?

How do I justify it in
my head?

She's going to do what I
want her to do,

and that's it.

She's going to use the bathroom.

She's going to...

Let's say that I told her that
daddy loves her.

And daddy's going to take care
of her,

and daddy's going to give her
anything she wants as long as

she does what daddy tells her.

I got married at 19, and I kind
of like refrained or tried to

refrain from sexually acting out
with any other ladies besides her,

because I knew that AIDS was coming out,

and I knew that diseases were
very frequent.

And I started thinking to
myself that if I stick

with this one girl and
groom her, or one woman,

I would groom her and get her to
do what I wanted her to do.

And eventually she did.

She done what I asked her to
do.

It was no problem.

It was a little at a time, and I
done it.

And I manipulated her and
coerced her.

Manipulation, coercion, violent
behaviors, striking her,

ah, ah, get her so drunk she'd
pass out,

and I'd do what I want to
with her.

I'd force myself upon her
when she was passed out

and did what I pleased.

And my sexual behavior got real,
real out of whack.

Yeah, I made her force objects
into her vagina.

I made her, forced her into
watching pornographic material

and stating that I wanted to do
that certain thing to her.

I wanted to, I wanted to have
sex with her constantly.

This was every day, every
day three or four times...

I wanted it as many times
in a day as I could get it.

And I have got it up to
six times in one day,

and still, still I did not have
enough.

I wanted more.

It was like a fix.

I wanted it, and I did
anything I could to get it.

(woman) And how many times..total?

I have a total of 24 now.

And I'm looking to see if I have
any more.

(woman) And were these...

You said these were all kids
except two?

No, yeah, well, they were
under the age of 18.

Most of my victims were the age
of 11 to 16.

(woman) And how did you get control
of them?

Was it through force and
control...

It was manipulate...

No, it wasn't violence.

It was more like manipulation.

It was coercion.

It was like I'll buy you this.

I'll give you that, you know.

And treating them like a
person,

but they were just objects.

They were just objects.

I was doing anything in my power
to get them to give sex up,

to give it up.

And that's what I used to tell
them.

I said give it up, you know.

After I would have done,
say groomed them up, and

then I would, and they would
comply.

I would use, I would buy
them beer, get them drunk,

get them high, get them
any way that I could

manipulate a woman or a
girl,

a child into having sex, I would do it.

(woman) In this section, you will see
the lack of attachment to anyone

that suggests Robert is not only
a power and control sex offender,

he is quite psychopathic as well.

The best way to fool people is
to have them.

Is to ask what they want, ask
what they need.

Do they need any help doing
anything?

Do they...

Do they need any money?

Or do they need their car fixed?

Do they need the grass cut?

Do they need their children
looked out for?

Do they need a job?

Do they need anything, anything
to get them to think that

I am a decent person and want to
help,

trust me.

I will help.

And, overall, that was a flat
out lie.

(woman) What do you think makes people
so trusting?

What do you mean?

As far as trusting...

(woman) Trusting you.

Trusting me?

Because I...

To trust me, well, I thought
that I could be trusted to

a certain extent.

And, and, but behind, behind
their back, you

know, I would take things
from them,

steal from them, scope out
things that I could steal.

Just see what I could get out of
somebody.

Just get what I wanted.

That's what I wanted.

And I see something I want, to
get somebody to trust me.

Like say if was to go over
and cut this person's grass,

fix his car, loan him some
money,

and then he, and I see
something I want.

Like he's got a nice
stereo, then, I would set it up.

I would say, hey, he's not
home at such and such a time.

That'd be the perfect time
to go get me a stereo.

So I would say, hey, he's gone.

I know exactly how to get in
through the back way.

I'll even go into his house and
open a window so

I can come in here tomorrow and
steal his stereo.

I was looking out for
number one, for me.

I didn't have any empathy
for anybody else,

because it seemed to me that
nobody had any empathy for me.

I wasn't going to give any
empathy that didn't give

it to me.

And that was it.

That was bottom line.

You don't...

I didn't have people cry for me
or tell me,

ask me if I needed anything.

Uh, then, you know, I wouldn't
use any empathy.

I would fake it.

I would fake empathy.

Like saying I know how you feel.

I've been in that
situation before.

I've done that, and it didn't
turn out all that hot.

And I would fake it, but
there wasn't no empathy there.

That was just a show.

That was just to tell, that was
just to get the person to say,

well, hey, he seems like he's
a pretty good fellow.

And that was manipulation
the whole way.

I'm aware how disturbing
this film is.

I made it because I've seen
children report acts

of sadistic abuse and not be
believed because the listener

refused to believe that such
things happen.

It's easier to deny malevolence
than it is to face it.

But we have no hope of
detecting and stopping

this kind of behavior if we
don't learn something about it.

I made this film in the
hopes that the next victim

won't report six or
seven times as ...

Gerald's victim did and still
not be believed.