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(Hangouts Google+)

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(amara - Amara Town Hall)

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(0:01:38: main screen shows Jules Rincón)

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(0:01:40 amara - Amara Town Hall)

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(0:04:17: Subpage of Jules Rincón's Google+ page)

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(0:04:18: Jules Rincón's Google+ page)

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(0:04:20: Dean Jansen, mute)

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(0:04:35: Main screen: CART with CART testing texts)

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(0:05:13) [Metallic voices, lots of static]

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(0:05:19: Main screen: CART with CART testing texts)

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(0:05:30) [Dean Jansen] Hey everyone! We're just about to get started here.

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This is Dean. We're trying to get some CART online for folks who are deaf or [audio stops]

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(0:05:47) [Dean Jansen] And I just had the YouTube video open in the other screen,

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so I started hearing my own voice.

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Hem, let's see: Michael Lockrey is having us get CART working

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and you can see his screen right now, so hopefully we're going to start getting that -

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Ah, there it goes, I think.

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Hem, and then we've just got a couple other things to get going.

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Jules has her set (?) working, she's in a bit of a noisy environment,

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so I'll be doing much of the - much of the talking,

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but we'll definitely want to hear a little bit from Jules, as long as things don't get to loud there.

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I'm being told that my microphone is a bit low. Can folks hear me OK?

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And you should definitely set the capt- errh, the comments in the YouTube video

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to display automatic updates.

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There is - I see already a lot of folks in there commenting,

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Darre, Claude, Seelan, Burgertester (?), lots of different folks.

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We have 17 people who are watching right now.

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OK.

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And Jules, do you - are you able to say hi now?

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You've got your - your - you've got your [inaudibe]

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[Jules Rincón] Hello, hi. I'm [inaudible] I'm Jules [inaudible]

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answering your e-mail [inaudible]

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[Dean Jansen] OK. That was a bit choppy.

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Let's see. OK, well, let me pull up a quick -

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sorry that we're not totally running: we are just coming, getting all the technology going,

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this is still pretty new for all of us.

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Is the CART in full - in full effect now?
Still can't tell.

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And can other folks in the, in - Jules is mentioning that the volume's a bit low.

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Are people on YouTube able to hear me OK?

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OK. I see a lot of people saying they can hear me OK.

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Now I think we just need to get this CART going and we're going to be ready to go.

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Hem -

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And is that - is the CART the main thing that's showing on the YouTube screen right now?

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Yes, it is.

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I mean to get the presentation pulled up and I will show a link to everyone

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so that you can have multiple windows open in case you want to watch the CART

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and also follow along the presentations at the same time.

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Hem, actually, Darren, could you show that link in - can you show that link

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in the YouTube video - in the YouTube comments?

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Now there is a published link I believe. OK, cool, thanks.

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We've got that coming, I'm going to get it up on my screen now.

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I have, like, more screens than I think I've ever had going at one time here, so -

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[inaudible: bear with us?] and once we get the CART going,

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I think we'll be ready to do some introductions and be ready to take off here.

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And for anyone who is able to listen in

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and can relay some of this information in the comments, that's really helpful.

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Much appreciated. (0:9:39)

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OK, let's see: I believe we're getting closer and closer.

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I'm in a message (?) Michael is speaking on the CART right now.

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Let's see how that's going.

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[Typing noises]
(CART: Caption screen share test screen. Further testing of caption reseizing)

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OK We're doing caption sizing testing right now
(CART: testing words)

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(CART: "further testing of caption sizing resizing caption screen to fit viewing window")

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[typing noises]
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[Dean Jansen] OK. Alright, so we just have the -

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the CART operator has joined the - the hangout

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and so now he should have the audio feed.

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[typing noises]
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[Dean Jansen] OK (12:06)

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typing noises]
(CART: testing words) (0:12:18)

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(0:12:18) [Dean Jansen] Thanks, everyone for bearing with us here. 
We have 11 viewers right now.

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If you want to update the website with the direct link to the you tube

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yes, captioner ready. Just resizing.

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I'm logged in to hangouts.

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Thanks resizing, resizing, resizing, resizing, resizing, resizing. In this is resizing. This is further resizing.

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Captioner ready. Standing by.

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[Dean Jansen]: I think we're ready to go. I will wait until I see the CART update to really get started.

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Darren is putting the announcement up on the Amara website right now

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so folks can join in if they are free.

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Okay. I see some text coming up. Which seems like good news.

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So, thank you, all, for joining. Right now we have 13 folks watching.

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I wanted to start this out. Let me pull up my agenda real quick.

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I wanted to start this out.

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Jules was going to be starting this out for us.

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Her internet connection has been on and off.

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She is a very noisy coffee house.

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She will be in the comments along with Darren still helping out.

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I wanted to start out by saying thanks to all of the folk

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who is have helped make this possible, including Michael Lockrey,

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his is the screen showing the cart text right now.

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Jules helped get this organized.

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Darren has been involved from the beginning.

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A bigger thanks goes out to the community and volunteers,

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the community here right now

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as well as the folks who are not able to make it,

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the folks from Amara doing captions, subtitles and translations.

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Some folks are sharing,

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we have people on Captions Requested and Music Captioning teams

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and people doing great work and translation happening across‑the‑board.

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Really exciting stuff.

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That's how we wanted to open this,

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by saying thank you to everyone who has been involved

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in making Amara such a success.

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Jules was going to introduce herself but again since it's so noisy

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I will do a quick introduction.

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She has been doing a fantastic job of community advocacy

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and support for Amara for getting close to a year now

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‑ probably less ‑ but she has been working from South America

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and is now in the US for us and has been doing a great job.

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Darren has also been doing a lot in the community advocacy

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and support side of things

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and has also been working with me on some of the stuff

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we have been working on.

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I would like to introduce myself. My name is Dean.

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I'm one ‑ business development really means finding a way to make

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this nonprofit and mission-driven project and piece of software sustainable

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so that we can support our developers.

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And make sure we are able to keep the servers on and everything.

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So, moving forward I will give a quick overview of the meeting of the

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we will start getting more and more interactive.

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But the beginning I would like to do a brief slide presentation

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that I hope people are excited about.

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Because we will share just a few pieces of what is to come in Amara

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which will answer a lot of outstanding questions

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and hopefully get people excited about the future of Amara.

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We certainly are.

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The other thing that I wanted to do

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some of the features they would like to see,

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some of the issues they were facing in the forum posts.

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So there are a couple of highlights there we would like to go over.

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And once we do that, then I think it would be great to do a full open Q‑A

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over the comments in the you tube video.

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Once we do that we will wrap it up.

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We are expecting to be done ‑

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we should probably finish in the next 40 minutes.

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We had an hour scheduled for the full meeting.

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I will spell this out so folks can join this URL.

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You will be able to see which slide I'm looking at

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at the bottom of the you tube video.

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Going to a new caption window. Okay.

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Now the cart appears to be back online. Yes, we will be ready to go again now.

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So let's all start on slide number 1.

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If anyone needs that URL please just ask in the comments if you don't have it

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and we will figure out a way to share it with you.

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That was a big oversight on our part, sorry.

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Slide number 1. I will switch my screen share back to that quickly. Here we go.

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If we go on to slide 2, there are a couple of important notes.

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They are about the mock ups.

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The slide presentation is maybe 10 slides long. It's almost purely visual.

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These are not 100 per cent final. They are mixed representations.

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We were trying to show the most functionality

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in the fewest number of screens possible.

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You may see screens from like a team video –

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a feature that would normally be exclusive to an openly translated video.

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We won't be forcing every video to be on a team or anything like that.

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It's just an artefact of us trying to get

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as much functionality into the slides as possible.

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If we skip to the third slide, it's a TED screen that says "let's get started".

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The section below shows a video.

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Right now people are used to seeing tasks and video tabs.

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We will try to simplify here.

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To give a bit more context before I dive into the specifics here,

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I will tell a story about a new type of work flow and collaboration

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that we're envisioning for Amara in the future.

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This is something that we have just started building now.

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It is not going to be ready tomorrow but we do want to release this stuff soon.

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The reason we are share it now is so we can start to get feedback ahead of time,

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because we think it's very important to ‑

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I know folks in the community have asked for increased transparency

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and we think that's really important. So this is part of that.

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Just hearing what you guys have to say,

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sharing some of what we have been working on

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and get you guys' opinions, your thoughts, your feedback ahead of time.

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I will paint a picture of what we're envisioning

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for the future of the collaboration on Amara.

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I hope a lot of the questions that were open will be answered.

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We will answer some more questions that we had

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that we don't think are addressed by this and then do some live Q and A

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for any of the things that get missed from this presentation.

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The first screen is the dashboard.

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we want people to find projects quickly that they can work on.

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what does it mean to sign off on something

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that this particular video still hasn't had three languages completed on it.

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some of the past work that someone has done.

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but you can imagine this being a list of everything

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someone has worked on in open Amara plus different teams

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and an overall profile of what have I collaborated on,

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what is still going on that other people are working on,

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what have I done in the past and giving people a better overview

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of how they have contributed to different projects.

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I have the ‑ I will scoot this over to the side. A lot of windows here.

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So we're on slide 6 right now. This is another team view.

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This is just the videos tab ‑

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that matches someone's language abilities and I realize

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that the languages up the top don't necessarily match in this mock‑up.

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But the idea is that where it says "select languages"

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that will be the filter for what is shown below

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when you have the videos tab filtered by "all of my languages"

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you would see the combination of those things.

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So for translation that will be very helpful.

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The other important thing is here is that

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the TED paradigm right now is an individual person coming in

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and creating subtitles and peer reviewing.

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We have taken that model and made it something flexible

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so that when TED does things

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they can have that individual person or translator voice

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that they think is very important and that we want to support them doing,

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but when there is a team that needs to be more open

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ike the Captions Requested team,

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we want to do something that still allows people to do peer review

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but has a more flexible approach

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so you can have multiple people collaborating at the same time.

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A little bit moreover lap but still enough structure so that people can say,

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"Well, this caption or this video still needs captions 
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and once the captions are built for the video it disappears for the list.

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that can be pulled up to the top.

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This is an amalgam of different things here.

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how you could help finish those pieces in progress.

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some things may never have official or peer review

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and the open model work a lot closer together and in concert together.

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If we go to the next slide, which is slide 8, I believe this is just another view ‑

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the original ‑ slide 7 had subtitles in the bottom just showing the transcript.

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so you can quickly see who made different revisions,

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who has left comments, et cetera, et cetera.

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and that's similar to what we have right now.

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that will make things easier to compare together

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but that's still under development.

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this is something that I actually wished I had Craig,

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who is our product director, here to discuss,

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because he is the one who has been driving ‑

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the driving force behind this new interface.

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I will do my best to talk about it. Some of these things have been updated.

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Let's say you weren't on a video that was part of the team,

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you might not have that sign‑off button.

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But generally this shows a translation in progress.

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and having these steps to a more fluid way of working

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where someone is guided through

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based on if we think you are going to be translating

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from English to German because that's how you came in,

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we will give you the right pieces and right tools from the get go

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with some instructions on how to do it.

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Slide 7 ‑ that's a closer up‑view of the new layout here.

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We have definitely gotten feedback that save something tricky right now.

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showing some more timing information in the side bar

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so you can see for this particular piece it's showing

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there are 21 characters at 5.25 characters per second.

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have requested this feature. That was slide 12.

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I'm realizing we don't have the new timing interface mock ups.

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That is still something that is fairly raw.

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Jules just mentioned there is a chat.

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Paul is asking about the smallest screen size.

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so you could just see the lower third of the video

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and have all of the timing and translation stuff show below

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in order to save space.

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that you can close some of the side bars.

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you can do that. If you're on a screen that's smaller.

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But this is still fairly early. It's not built in HTML yet.

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We haven't gotten down to the nuts and bolts

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of what exact screen resolutions will be supported, et cetera.

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So let's see, before we get too off ‑

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before we start doing too many question and answers,

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I want to clarify that the other piece of this

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that I don't have here to share you but I think is going to be really exciting

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is right now we're in a place where you can create captions

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and time captions and subtitles and translate.

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I will get to this. We're going to re-enable that.

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That's a question that will come up.

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We want to make it so ‑ so right now if you edit the timing on that translation,

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then you will no longer have a translation,

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you are out of the translation interface

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and solely in the creating subtitles interface.

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This new system will allow us to compare side by side

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differently timed translations and subtitles.

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you are actually able to still compare English and Spanish next to one another.

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That's one of the things that I think

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will be incredibly powerful about this new system.

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It's one of the things I'm most excited about.

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I don't think it comes across in this presentation

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but that is something that we're working towards supporting

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which is really important and really adds a lot of flexibility

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to the experience of translation.

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Slide 13 is just the end cap. That's the basic presentation.

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And I did have a number of different questions that came up in the forums.

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And I'm really sorry that Jules isn't able to join me on this piece,

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because this has been me talking and talking and talking.

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I don't want to bore folks and sound like I'm the only person talking here,

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but I do think these questions are important to get to

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and we have ‑ we really read carefully and ... yes?

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I'm in the Mozilla offices right now.

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And there is there is something ringing.

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I will answer some of the questions in the forum.

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I will mention who asked them.

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There may be other people who are curious about them.

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But this is in broad strokes trying to answer

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some of the questions that came up

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that I don't think were addressed in the slide show.

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We can come back and address other things in realtime.

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There was a question from Booger Bender, Vivian and Claude

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about messaging and outreach.

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Some folks were saying it would be great to highlight

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the nonprofit nature of our project, the open source nature of our project.

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Some other folks were suggesting we did more outreach to deaf communities.

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We think those are both great ideas.

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Our focus right now really is getting this new technology going.

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We will obviously be ‑ we will be doing some ‑

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we will be starting an email newsletter soon,

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and that might be a good place to start highlighting this stuff.

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We would like to tighten up our website

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because I know there are a lot of loose ends

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and it could be better at explaining our mission

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and how the participatory culture foundation works

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and how Amara is totally volunteer driven.

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And up our outreach to deaf communities.

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In the meantime, if there are any folks here who can help us with this,

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we would be more than thrilled to work with you.

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Jules will be very active in the forums.

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If you're not a registered member, please do join.

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We would love to discuss how we can better work together

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to highlight some of these things and outreach to different communities

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and keep stepping up those efforts.

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Another question was about video management,

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which ‑ this is a technical question about the platform.

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Someone was asking about the primary URL, being able to switch away.

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We may have just done a release that actually allows you to see

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the history of what the primary URL was and to switch that.

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That used to be more ‑ I think that was just a minor bug or hiccup in our development

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and that we're back online about that.

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I would like to double check on that before we confirm that one 100 per cent.

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One other technical thing I can confirm 100 per cent,

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it's about editing and timing of subtitle bubbles.

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They are asking about ending a caption.

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So you press the down arrow to lay down a caption

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and the caption is on the screen,

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you press the down arrow and next one appears immediately

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where the last one left out.

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The secret is the up arrow will cut off the current subtitle being laid down,

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if you want to do a quick caption that says "music playing"

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you would press down when you wanted it to show, press the up arrow

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and then it would stop right there.

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Let me know that that's the right question you were asking. I think it is.

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People consistently ask about full screen.

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Will the widget, the embeddable tab that goes on the bottom of the video ‑

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the majority of these videos, they may be MP4 videos

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but they are playing through a flash player

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and it's taking over the entire experience.

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You can't do HTML overlay or Java on top of that.

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We're working some of the major video hosts

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to provide syncing that can link subtitles directly into their video player

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or display the subtitles through their video player.

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The problem being that you have to be the original uploader

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to enable that syncing.

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We will see if we can figure out a technical work around

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to do some near full screen overlay.

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But bear in mind that's just a tough technical problem.

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I'm sorry I don't have a more exciting and uplifting answer for that one.

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Another question we had was the original and primary language of video ‑

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we're working to improve the support for changing

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what language a video is spoken in.

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So there is spoken dialogue in a video. That's coming up fairly soon.

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There were a couple of features that had existed before

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that people wanted to know about.

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Subtitling directly to a video, pasting in a transcript.

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Uploading new subtitles over existing subtitles ‑

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these are things that our current system, we have hit some different hurdles.

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We're working on getting these features re‑established.

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But they will likely be re‑established in the newer system,

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the stuff I have just shown in the slides.

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I have two more things left and then we can go to open questions.

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Jules mentioned there was a question from Jim Tobias

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that I can try to answer really quickly.

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Will there be a user-focused interface

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that shows teams and videos I have worked on.

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So Jim asked if we're going to be doing a user-focused interface

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that shows ‑ let's say a user dashboard.

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You log in and you see the videos you have worked on

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and videos you have completed.

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I'm not remembering the number of the slide. I think it was like 3 or 4.

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Slide number 5 shows past collaborations in the context of a team.

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But we do want to do something similar that goes across teams.

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If you log in and you have contributed to three teams

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and different videos on three different teams

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plus you have contributed to 20 various videos that are videos on Amara,

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we would like to compile all those things together

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so you can see that all in one place.

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I'm seeing another question:

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Is there any place to add Mozilla to the presently available sign in methods?

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I don't think we have immediate plans to add Mozilla.

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I'm assuming we could potentially do that through MoOff.

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I'm at the Mozilla offices today so I can see if that's a possibility.

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It hadn't come up on our radar yet but we can check into it.

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Another question:

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Can we fix the original language if we set it wrongly at first?

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It happened to me once and I struggled in fixing it.

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Paula, firstly, I apologize that it's not easier in the current system to do this.

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Yes, we definitely want to make that simpler.

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Because it's one of those tricky things where the data model

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that we're working on right now

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is something that we created roughly two years ago.

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Of course it's not the ideal thing for where we are at with the project right now.

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That's the first thing that we're working on.

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We're very close to having something out

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that will be more flexible in that respect. Thanks for that question.

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Feel free to keep asking questions about anything that I have talked about,

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any of the slides, anything that has been missing from the presentation

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or anything you would like to hear about.

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Another question was about the different timing in the differences ‑

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a question about editing timing in different languages.

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That's coming back now.

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Ultimately we're excited about that ability to remain

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in the translation interface even if you have changed the timing.

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Let's see, we have gotten a lot of good suggestions on the product front.

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I'm not sure if I'm saying this name right

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but Diomides had good suggestions for hot keys and functionality

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I have passed on to the development team.

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One suggestion that was put forth

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was the ability to change the speed in the video play back.

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Right now that's difficult with our system

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because we aren't hosting the videos

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99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and it's all done through the HTML and Java script.

478
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
There may come a time when we are able to start doing that,

479
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
specially as HTML5 becomes more powerful and that technology grows.

480
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
But right now that is going to be a tough one.

481
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
But some of the other things ‑ there is a suggestion for a hot key

482
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
to skip to lines that haven't been translated yet.

483
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That's a really great suggestion.

484
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We will definitely try to get that in there

485
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and a couple of those other things too.

486
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We have another question coming in.

487
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
This name is very difficult. I won't be able to say it without butchering it. I

488
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
t says: Has there been any thought to providing interactive transcripts?

489
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That's the kind of thing where you see the video.

490
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Yes, TED dotcom has an example.

491
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We have been working on this.

492
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I wish we could enable link sharing.

493
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We need to look into whether we can enable links in the you tube comments.

494
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We do have a sample of that. An interactive transcript player.

495
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
You're watching the video and see the transcripts in a text box.

496
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
You can scroll down it and click on the word

497
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and the video will jump to that word and start playing immediately.

498
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
You can search through and look for key phrases.

499
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We have something like that that is just coming out of the lab.

500
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Maybe in the forum we can post a link to it.

501
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Darren, can you get that link if you have it?

502
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Do we have other questions?

503
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I'm coming to the end of the questions from the forum posts.

504
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
There may have been a couple that I missed

505
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
so if there is anything on the forum that you left and I didn't get to it,

506
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
please just chime in on the you tube comments.

507
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We will continue to keep an eye on the YouTube comments,

508
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
even after we're done with this

509
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
so if there is anything we missed we can follow up on it

510
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
... it sounds like we're getting closer and closer to the conclusion of this event.

511
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
This has been really exciting. I will check the window.

512
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Here is another question.

513
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
The launch date for the new embedder?

514
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We don't have a solid date yet.

515
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
There are so many things that are hard to predict in what we're doing right now.

516
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Let me see. I'm getting more information on and that question.

517
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That was Joshua.

518
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
The new embedder and whether there is a specific launch date.

519
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That's the embedder with the interactive transcripts.

520
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
It's out in Beta form right now.

521
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We will share on the forums how to use that. I

522
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
t's still experimental so it's not perfect

523
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
but it's not anything that will ever mess up subtitle data or anything like that.

524
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
It's a piece of code that we're comfortable share

525
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
being folks saying use this in situations that are not mission-critical

526
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and check it out, see what people think.

527
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
So we will get that up in the forum and also try to mention

528
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
once we do in the YouTube comments.

529
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Let's see. Another question:

530
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
A very important feature missing, a kind of guideline conflict or warnings

531
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
like sentences larger than 70 characters,

532
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
smaller than 1.5 seconds, et cetera.

533
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That's a really great idea. If I understand it right, we should ‑

534
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
let's continue that thread in the forums so we can develop that idea further.

535
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Just so that I know and our team knows exactly what you're suggesting here.

536
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
But I think the idea sounds good, something that gives some highlights

537
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
if maybe you have things that seem like

538
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
they may be less than optimal for captions or subtitles.

539
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That's a really good idea.

540
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Dumovney asks another question:

541
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Has there been thought given to providing video description?

542
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We have definitely talked about it.

543
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
It's something that, you know, with this new system that we're building,

544
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
once we're there we will be in a much better position

545
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
to start think being both video description as well as dubbing

546
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
or voiceover translation.

547
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Both of which we think could be exciting, important pieces

548
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
to the puzzle for greater accessibility

549
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
both for folks who are blind or have visual impairments

550
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
or people who, let's say, don't read ‑ they speak a different language

551
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
than the video is in and also don't read their primary language particularly well,

552
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
this could be really great for increasing accessibility there as well.

553
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Okay. Let's see. There was another question. Another question:

554
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Why was it kept a secret the way the up arrow was a way to cut the subtitle

555
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
instead of using the down carry key. It wasn't really a secret.

556
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
It was a lack of time to update the documentation.

557
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We have been crazy busy with a lot of different projects

558
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and hadn't had time to update the instructions

559
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
on the interface on the side bar.

560
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We're not trying to keep secrets or leave Easter eggs lying around,

561
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
it was just that that didn't get as widely published as it should have.

562
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
My apologies for that.

563
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We will try to make sure we have a comprehensive list

564
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
of all of the keyboard short cuts.

565
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
All right. We're getting close to the hour. Let's see.

566
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Do we have any other questions before we cap this discussion?

567
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Let's see, just so ‑

568
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I don't know if it says how many was the largest number of viewers

569
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
but I have seen that we have had between 16 and 17 viewers,

570
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
which is pretty cool.

571
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Okay. We have one more. From Lavney:

572
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
It says on video description adds deaf blind people would benefit

573
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
from seeing video description as text rather than as audio.

574
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Ah, yes, I think I was misunderstanding you.

575
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think sometimes video and audio description terminology

576
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
is confusing for me, my apologies, I may have been mixing that up.

577
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think there are a lot of different things that we can do f

578
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
from the perspective of accessibility, that we should ‑ we would like to ‑

579
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think a lot of this just needs to be unpacked for us.

580
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We put a lot of effort and time into trying to figure out

581
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
what the best approach is to accomplish ‑

582
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
to keep a simple interface that is something that is approachable

583
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
by people who are both young and old

584
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
in order to start creating subtitles and start creating captions and translate things.

585
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We also want to make sure that we're being as inclusive as possible

586
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
with the interfaces,

587
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
with the things that people are creating through the interfaces.

588
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
And to be honest, it's a big, big job to understand

589
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
what the universe of accessibility means.

590
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
This is a really good opportunity to ask you guys to help us learn more

591
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and understand better how we can support

592
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
all of these different uses and use cases.

593
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think a lot of this conversation that we're having right now,

594
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
these sorts of seeds, could really blossom on the forum.

595
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I'm hoping we can continue these conversations so we can learn more

596
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
about what folks are thinking might be the most effective sort of approach

597
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
to some of these issues.

598
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I totally appreciate everyone's time and effort and thought

599
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
on helping us walk through these.

600
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Two more and then we will cap it after that.

601
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
So Claude asks: Could you talk about the future chat feature, please?

602
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think I will need more clarification on that.

603
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Maybe we could just take care of that in the forum as well.

604
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
And discuss that one in the comments or the forum.

605
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Okay, Alex asks: We Chinese need double subtitling display on team.

606
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Could you implement that?

607
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Double means showing both English and Chinese subs

608
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
in two lines simultaneously. Alex Mo.

609
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That's another thing that there are ‑ that is another piece

610
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
outside of the accessibility thing that I was just talking about.

611
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
This is something that I think we should definitely discuss

612
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
so that we can better understand how something like this

613
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
might work in the system, given all of the different ‑

614
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
the challenges that we're facing of keeping the software usable and simple

615
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
from the perspective of it has to work on as many languages as possible,

616
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
how can we accomplish what you're asking about with Amara.

617
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think we can definitely find a way to do it.

618
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
But I don't have an answer off the top of my head.

619
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Partly because I'm not someone who speaks English and Chinese

620
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and so figuring out exactly how ‑ what the expectation is

621
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and how something like that would work,

622
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
we definitely just need to get a little bit more information

623
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and I think we can and should be able to figure out something.

624
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I will answer one last question:

625
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Seelan: are there plans to auto-sync subs to videos on YouTube.

626
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We have created many of these

627
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
but people can't up load them on and to YouTube sourced.

628
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I'm not sure I totally understand that one.

629
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Right now we're sync one direction from Amara.

630
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We do grab subtitles and captions from YouTube

631
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and we're just now starting to sync them back to YouTube,

632
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
as long as you're the creator of the video on YouTube you can do that.

633
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think we're on the right track there.

634
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
If I'm not understanding that correctly we should also

635
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
carry that discussion forward in the forum as well.

636
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
(pause)

637
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
okay. Sorry, I'm just seeing people typing things

638
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and want to make sure I have got this all down correctly.

639
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
All right. I think we should make sure to just continue these conversations

640
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and I know there are a couple at the end that I semi‑dodged

641
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
but I want to ensure we are able to address those

642
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and have conversations about how we can expand on those different pieces

643
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and make sure that we're serving as many different communities

644
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
as best as we possibly can.

645
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think that the new editor, the new collaboration model,

646
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
all of the stuff that we have shared and that we're working on right now,

647
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think that will be a major step in that direction.

648
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
And that there will still be obviously a lot of room for improvement

649
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and room to grow.

650
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I think there are probably a lot of things that we didn't discuss today

651
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
that have to do with how do we ‑ how do we best represent

652
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
what volunteers have done, how do we show,

653
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
this is a set of captions done primarily by this user but also this user helped.

654
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That's a big question and thing we have started to think about

655
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
but that is so huge that we want to make sure

656
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
we have the communities' voice and support and heart in

657
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
as we move forward on it.

658
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
That's another big thing and maybe that's a topic for the next town hall meeting.

659
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Thank you so much to everyone who participated.

660
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
I see that our viewership has dropped off a little bit.

661
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Thank you to Michael for bringing CART into the ‑ into the picture.

662
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Thank you to the CART operator for actually providing CART, totally amazing.

663
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
Jules and Darren, thank you for helping DJ the comments

664
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and get this whole thing off the ground.

665
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
And of course thanks to everyone who is here right now

666
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and who wasn't able to make it,

667
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
who has been helping us to make Amara such an amazing project and tool.

668
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
And everything that it has become.

669
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
So, thank you, all.

670
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
We will do this again ‑ I'm not sure exactly when.

671
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
But let's talk about it in the forums and discuss

672
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
when we do want to do it again and what we thought worked

673
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
and what we thought didn't and how we can improve on this process.

674
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
So thank you, all.

675
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999
(town hall ends)