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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: I’m currently speaking to you from\Na cab in a police car.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.56,0:00:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the pigs are being herded off to the kill\Nfloor.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.94,0:00:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should be shown mercy, not herded to\Nthe gas chambers.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.09,0:00:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Show some mercy.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.45,0:00:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Save the pigs.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.98,0:00:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Call Fearmans.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.00,0:00:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody, please call Fearmans.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.00,0:00:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Police Officer: I’m going to have to take\Nit while we’re driving, though.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.90,0:00:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can’t have it while you’re driving.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.48,0:00:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are currently in custody, which means\Nyou don’t get any possessions, okay?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.48,0:00:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: Okay I understand, I understand. Sorry, Officer.\NPolice Officer: Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.32,0:00:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi it's Emily from Bite Size Vegan and welcome\Nto another vegan nugget.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.02,0:00:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,November 1, 2016 marked the 22nd year of celebrating\NWorld Vegan day and, appropriately enough,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.24,0:00:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the resumption of the criminal trial in Canada\Nthat’s thrust animal rights and veganism
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.65,0:01:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,onto the international stage.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.79,0:01:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Animal activist and co-founder of Toronto\NPig Save, Anita Krajnc, is facing 6 months
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.47,0:01:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in jail and a $5,000 fine for giving water\Nto thirsty pigs on their way to slaughter.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.02,0:01:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For more details on the incident itself, please\Nsee my interview with Anita from January 2016,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.99,0:01:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,linked in the side bar and below.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.36,0:01:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just prior to the November 1 court date, I\Nspoke with Anita and James, another key organizer
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.13,0:01:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Toronto Pig Save—and the man behind\NTwitter’s Veganoso—about the trial’s
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.97,0:01:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proceedings and impact thus far.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.25,0:01:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The defense in this case, led by vegan lawyers\NGary Grill and James Silver, has taken a unique
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.84,0:01:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approach:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.84,0:01:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: The key defense we’re using is the\Nidea that everyone has the duty to bear witness.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.25,0:01:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s our defense.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.74,0:01:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right at the beginning when I testified I\Nsaid our mission is to create a nonviolent
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.40,0:01:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegan world, to promote the idea that everybody\Nhas a duty to bear witness and to promote
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.29,0:01:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a cultural shift so that people no longer\Nthink it’s ok to say, “I don’t want
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.83,0:01:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see.”
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.83,0:02:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“It’s too hard.”
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.83,0:02:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“It might change how I eat.” and then\Npeople say that’s an acceptable answer.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.98,0:02:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to actually promote a cultural shift\Nwhere people say, that “I want to live up
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.31,0:02:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to my duty to bear witness.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.46,0:02:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to bear witness.”
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.15,0:02:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the way we’re sort of presenting it\Nis that, as animal lovers, we’re willing
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.31,0:02:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to suffer and willing to sacrifice in order\Nto promote social change.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.56,0:02:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So saying something like “Oh it’s too\Nhard to look” or “I am going to have an
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.59,0:02:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotional breakdown”—that’s ok.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.59,0:02:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s actually ok to suffer in order to help\Nanimals, ‘cause the history of social change
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.41,0:02:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has occurred because of that, and people like\NLeo Tolstoy and Mahatma Gandhi tried to redefine
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.24,0:02:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or reinterpret the notions of self-sacrifice\Nand suffering.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.64,0:02:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that’s how social change happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.81,0:02:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At our trial, when we talk about animals,\Nwe talk about animals as individuals and not
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.01,0:02:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as property.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.01,0:02:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The classic, sort of, line from the driver\Nin this incident was, “They’re not human.”
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.65,0:03:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said “If they’re thirsty, give them\Nwater” and he said “they’re not human.”
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.25,0:03:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: And if there was a dog in a hot car\Nit would be a duty to help that dog, to break
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.79,0:03:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the window to let the dog out.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.47,0:03:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there’s no fundamental difference between\Na dog and a pig so why would there be a different
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.91,0:03:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standard on how you treat pigs?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.12,0:03:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not just a convenient analogy.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.03,0:03:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same year Anita was charged for giving\Nwater to dehydrated pigs, a woman in British
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.27,0:03:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Columbia was sentenced to jail for the death\Nof six dogs she left in her truck on a hot
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.44,0:03:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.44,0:03:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truck driver who confronted Anita was\Nhauling 190 pigs in severe heat without any
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.52,0:03:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,access to water or adequate ventilation.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.73,0:03:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That year, in Canada alone, 14,212 pigs died\Non their way to slaughter.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.73,0:03:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we quoted Tolstoy, saying “when\Nwe wish to harm others we really do evil to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.19,0:03:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ourselves.”
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.67,0:03:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That one line brings together all the arguments\Nthat we had.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.09,0:03:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there’s a unity of life— we’re all\Nequal.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.30,0:04:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Animals are individuals just like we are and\Ndeserve respect and love.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.52,0:04:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we don’t treat them that way, we’re\Nhurting animals, but we’re also going to
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.63,0:04:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destroy the planet.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.91,0:04:09.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked Anita and James to share any memorable\Nor powerful moments from the trial thus far:
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.91,0:04:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: There were a number of memorable times\Nin court.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.66,0:04:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think when my lawyer—vegan lawyer—James\NSilver cross-examined the truck driver, Jeff,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.39,0:04:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was able to establish the real motivation\Nfor charging me.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.58,0:04:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was, that they wanted to shut us\Ndown.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.54,0:04:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he established how much money the industry\Nmakes, how much that factory farm makes, what
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.25,0:04:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were the discussions and why were they concerned\Nabout us.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.10,0:04:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, he wasn't concerned about what was in\Nthe water or that I gave water—because I
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.56,0:04:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,offered him a free sample.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.62,0:04:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was really behind this was the motivation\Nthat we were hurting the bottom line of the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.38,0:04:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.38,0:04:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was such an incredible moment, you know,\Nthe truth was revealed.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.64,0:04:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then another amazing moment was when he\Ncross-examined the farmer, Mr. Van Boekel,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.65,0:05:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how the sows were treated, and I got\Nsome of the most heartbreaking moments because
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.58,0:05:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he talked about how he had hundreds of sows\Nand they were in these crates where they can't
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.25,0:05:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turn around, their babies were taken away,\Nand then they were put back into a general
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.38,0:05:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pen and then within five or six days they\Nwere re-impregnated.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.22,0:05:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then again.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.73,0:05:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So their life was a constant cycle, it was\Njust heartbreaking.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.04,0:05:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were so many moments that were very\Nrevealing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.61,0:05:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I testified, there were a lot of moments\Nthat I found very memorable cause I was able
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.64,0:05:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say what I really thought and believed.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.94,0:05:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What really got me was we were able to show\Nthe pig preserve video.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.37,0:05:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just shows who pigs are and it \Nwas like a 13-minute video.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.81,0:05:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I've been listening to these guys for about
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.22,0:05:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,26 years. I think they have about 40 different vocalizations
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.16,0:05:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they combine those with body language
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.50,0:05:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so a different vocalization with one body language
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.94,0:05:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is different from the same vocalization with a different body language.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.04,0:05:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think when you combine the two they probably got a vocabulary amongst themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.48,0:05:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of probably a 100, 120, 150
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.52,0:05:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different communications.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.42,0:06:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Happy grunting.] Richard:Oh yeah....Yeah I know. [Laughter.]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.64,0:06:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I am happy pig. [grunting]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.64,0:06:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am happy pig. [grunting]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.38,0:06:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: So they do this. It seems that he is very happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.44,0:06:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard:Oh yeah! \NLauren: So happy to have all this space.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.40,0:06:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in regards to being like in a factory farm this space is, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.92,0:06:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the type of space that pigs would in the wild be roaming in. Would you say?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.32,0:06:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard: Well yeah if you understand it in—truly in the wild, these are nomadic animals.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.36,0:06:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is just a good lifestyle for a pig. This is the lifestyle they were meant to live.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.94,0:06:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Um, typically when I put a pig down, I give the group an hour or so
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.42,0:06:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'll come up usually one at a time and say their goodbyes. Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.86,0:06:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it varies from social group to social group.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.20,0:06:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they all do mourn.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.20,0:06:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When... They come up to the pig that is??
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.36,0:07:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They nose them all around and they talk to em
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.00,0:07:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to get em up
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.00,0:07:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just so happy we got to show that, and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.03,0:07:07.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then after that we showed footage of the gas\Nchamber.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.15,0:07:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, like the truth—we’re telling the\Ntruth, and so for me those were high points.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.10,0:07:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: I think for me, the whole case has\Nbeen so captivating.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.68,0:07:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The level of interest—every day the courthouse\Nhas been packed, there’s been people waiting
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.11,0:07:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outside trying to get in.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.44,0:07:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of content, just the lack of emotion\Nand lack of empathy from their side has been
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.16,0:07:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite disturbing.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.16,0:07:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they’re watching the same images\Nthat we’re seeing on the screens and the
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.69,0:07:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disconnect I think is so strong of people\Nthat work in the industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.38,0:07:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: Mr. Van Boekel and maybe ten or so\Nfarmers came to my trial date when I testified.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.28,0:07:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a packed courtroom, people were sitting\Non the floor and people were watching the
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.59,0:07:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,farmers and you know, sometimes they were sort of like joking about it, things like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.80,0:07:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[James: A lot of them were joking]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.86,0:07:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when the pig preserve video was shown:\Nwho pigs really are, they were paying attention.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.45,0:08:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Richard Hoyle is an ex marine and pigs were shown in a different light of who they really are.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.43,0:08:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it touched some of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.43,0:08:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that this pig trial is touching\Nsome of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.08,0:08:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pig trial was presenting the truth and\Nat the end of the day, that’s what’s going
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.90,0:08:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.90,0:08:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I believe we even touched the factory\Nfarm industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.28,0:08:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was one article in an animal ag.\Nmagazine that said ‘Mr. Van Boekel is fighting
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.50,0:08:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this alone.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.50,0:08:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where’s the pork council?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.50,0:08:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are they?’
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.74,0:08:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think this is such a strong case that\Nthey have a lot of trouble defending.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.52,0:08:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s the incredible thing about this trial.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.25,0:08:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has managed to place the prosecution on\Nthe defense, and the rights and individuality
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.71,0:08:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of non-human animals at the center of debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.74,0:08:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita’s lawyers have called a handful of\Nexpert witnesses throughout the trial so far.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.01,0:08:43.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As this interview was filmed prior to the\NNovember 1 session, I’ll include live tweets
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.01,0:08:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the testimony onscreen for the witnesses\Nthat day.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.01,0:08:47.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: Dr. May is a veterinarian and she was\Nthe first expert witness to testify.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.83,0:08:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the most revealing parts of her\Ntestimony was, she looked at the video, where
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.79,0:08:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I gave water to the pigs, and then she counted\Nthe number of pants and she said some of the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.11,0:09:02.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pigs were panting at 200 pants per minute.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.83,0:09:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said they were in severe distress.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.11,0:09:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On November 1st we have two expert witnesses.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.57,0:09:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dr. Lori Marino, she’s going to talk about\Npig personality, intelligence, sentience.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.75,0:09:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She’s a foremost cognitive behaviorist.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.00,0:09:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we have Dr. David Jenkins.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.53,0:09:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He’s a professor at the university of Toronto.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.60,0:09:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He invented the glycemic index.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.18,0:09:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he’s an outspoken vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.02,0:09:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he will be talking about the health benefits\Nof a plant based diet and the incredible health
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.06,0:09:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impacts of eating meat, dairy and eggs.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.43,0:09:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then finally on November 10th we will\Nhave our expert witness on the environment
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.58,0:09:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dr. Tony Weis who’s professor of geography\Nat the University of Western Ontario.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.69,0:09:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he’s going to talk about the impact\Nof animal agriculture on climate change, ocean
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.66,0:09:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dead zones, deforestation, species extinction,\Nwater use, water pollution and other issues.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.39,0:09:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pig Trial has drawn the attention and\Nsupport of celebrities like vegan musician,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.26,0:09:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DJ, photographer and animal activist Moby,\Nactress and model Maggie Q, who stood in solidarity
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.52,0:10:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Anita on November 1,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.48,0:10:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most important thing that we're promoting today
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.90,0:10:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, when it come to Anita's case
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.18,0:10:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that compassion is not a crime. That's what it says on my shirt.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.54,0:10:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the founder of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk, who has flown out to Toronto for the trial to show her support.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.46,0:10:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,5 million of our members and supporters are watching Burlington
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.88,0:10:21.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and want to know what's happening. We think of kindness as a virtue
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.34,0:10:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not as something to be punished.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.90,0:10:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The broad exposure of the trial speaks to\Nthe two primary goals of The Save Movement:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.16,0:10:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bear witness to the individuals suffering\Nin the trucks and to document the experience
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.52,0:10:35.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to share with the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.17,0:10:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Having myself attended a number of vigils\Nwith Toronto Pig Save, and Manchester and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.10,0:10:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Essex Pig Saves in the UK, I can personally\Nattest to the incredible impact of bearing
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.22,0:10:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,witness and publishing the images\Nfor the world to see.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.26,0:10:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Pigs screaming in fear, pain and terror, \Ngas chamber machinery churning.]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.78,0:10:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're being slapped right now!
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.78,0:10:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Pigs screaming continually.]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.02,0:11:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: We want people to see what we see and when we look inside a truck we see individuals,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.61,0:11:03.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pigs, cows and chickens who want to live.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.41,0:11:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: When you show the victims, when you\Nsee their faces, when you look in their eyes
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.77,0:11:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you see them as individuals it really\Nhelps people connect and have empathy.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.87,0:11:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: When any of us are at vigils, and we\Ngo up to the pigs or the cows or the chickens
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.43,0:11:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bear witness we have a camera in hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.30,0:11:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we’re there for the individual, we’re\Npresent, we say “we love you we’re sorry.”
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.51,0:11:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see the individual before us but we also\Nhave a camera in hand because we’re trying
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.65,0:11:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change the world thinking and we’re thinking\Nabout broader issues as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.32,0:11:34.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of the pig trial we’re getting these\Nimages in the mainstream media—they even
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.78,0:11:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looped the video of the incident when I was\Ncharged from June 2015 on mainstream television.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.58,0:11:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two days day after Anita’s testimony at\Ntrial, a truck overturned outside of Fearmans
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.94,0:11:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pork, the slaughterhouse at which Anita was\Ncharged.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.66,0:11:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We’ll hear more about the actual event later\Nin this video.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.72,0:11:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita spoke to the effect of the crash on\Nthe media.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.35,0:11:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita: There’s been learning in the media.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.82,0:12:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the media has got more and more sympathetic\Nas the pig trial has gone on and when we had
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.16,0:12:07.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that horrible crash a few days after I testified\Nat the pig trial it just had unprecedented
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.59,0:12:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coverage because usually the coverage is either\Nto ignore it or to say no one was hurt, the
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.24,0:12:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,driver wasn’t hurt and this time the media\Nwas there and I think there was incredible
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.37,0:12:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.93,0:12:20.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We told all our activists “Go to the site\Nand document.”
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.89,0:12:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See if that pig crash happened and there were\Nno activists that went on site it would not
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.16,0:12:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been as big a story and it wouldn’t\Nhave been reported as sympathetically.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.66,0:12:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One news reporter said that this incident\Nhad changed her life and that she wants to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.19,0:12:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.19,0:12:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was another cameraperson from a huge\Ntelevision station that said he was vegan
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.92,0:12:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his whole family was vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.63,0:12:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think we’re definitely—the vegan\Nmovement is spreading in the mass media and
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.99,0:12:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s just an indication that it’s spreading\Nacross all sectors of society.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.46,0:12:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pig Trial has managed to elicit support\Nand empathy even from meat-eaters.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.07,0:13:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked Anita and James why this case is reaching\Npeople when nothing else has:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.00,0:13:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By and large the public is sympathetic.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.98,0:13:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s the idea of defending the Golden Rule.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.32,0:13:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So: “treat others as you’d like to be\Ntreated.”
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.17,0:13:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leo Tolstoy said we should take pity on animals\Nthe same way we take pity on each other if
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.22,0:13:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are not to deaden the voice of conscience.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.82,0:13:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So people understand across cultures and you know the Golden Rule is thousands of years old.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.73,0:13:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the animal agricultural industry cannot\Nfight the Golden Rule.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.25,0:13:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s what they tried to do and it’s\Nbackfiring.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.02,0:13:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While Toronto Pig Save has been holding vigils\Nand posting images of animals on their way
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.89,0:13:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to slaughter for five years now, this is the\Nfirst time they’ve gained international
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.27,0:13:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coverage, and with an impressive reach and\Nmomentum at that.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.78,0:13:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita and James spoke to what they saw as\Nthe driving force behind this growth:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.93,0:13:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all the incident in and of itself,\Nit’s the best possible incident you can
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.58,0:13:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charge someone on, like, giving water to a\Nthirsty animal.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.05,0:13:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So yes [that’s] an incredible incident,\Nbut the other factor is the fact that we are
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.55,0:14:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organized.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.55,0:14:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know the reason this is so big is because\Nthere’s a social movement here, it’s not
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.14,0:14:08.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just some random woman who gave water to thirsty\Npigs and was charged.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.41,0:14:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.41,0:14:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They charged an organizer.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.74,0:14:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They charged an organizer who’s part of\Nan organizing team that’s across Toronto.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.06,0:14:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now there’s a global movement—there’s\Nlike almost 90 save groups around the world,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.83,0:14:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,21 new save groups started in the United Kingdom.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.04,0:14:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have people like grandmothers, babies—we\Nhave hundreds of people that come to our vigils.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.58,0:14:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like our biggest vigil was when you, Bite\NSize Vegan first came to one of our vigils.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.43,0:14:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was our biggest vigil back in September\N24, 2015.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.25,0:14:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[On] that day we had almost 300 people.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.10,0:14:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that was our biggest vigil to date.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.35,0:14:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since then we’ve grown and grown and grown.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.13,0:14:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the reason we’re getting great coverage.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.08,0:14:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it has to do with also with the\Ntrial.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.14,0:14:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A trial is something I think that the media\Ncan report on.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.62,0:14:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s hard for them to just cover our vigils,\Nwe’ve been doing this for more that 5 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.60,0:14:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why are we getting mainstream media coverage\Nnow?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.51,0:14:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why are we getting international coverage?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.98,0:14:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It had to do with the trial.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.95,0:15:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now our images are getting out there, the\Nones that we’ve had all this time.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.78,0:15:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end of the day the news coverage was\Nthat this pig trial put animal agriculture
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.02,0:15:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on trial.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.02,0:15:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: Sometimes it’s almost like you forget\Nthat it’s Anita on trial because of the
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.86,0:15:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole sense of someone there having to defend\Nthe truth of what they do because it’s just
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.35,0:15:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so abhorrent.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.35,0:15:22.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our global society, there is a profound\Nreversal of right and wrong surrounding our
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.100,0:15:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food system.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.14,0:15:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eating a vegan diet is viewed as extreme.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.03,0:15:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Animal lovers readily consume the bodies of\Nsentient beings whom they would not be able
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.64,0:15:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring themselves to harm.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.57,0:15:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A horrifically clear example of the laws protecting\Nthe criminal whilst criminalizing those fighting
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.91,0:15:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to save the victims, came on October 5, 2016.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.33,0:15:46.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The day the truck crashed at Fearmans.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.59,0:15:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anita, fresh from her testimony in court two\Ndays before, was promptly arrested again not
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.75,0:15:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long after her arrival at the scene.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.42,0:15:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had refused to step back from documenting\Nthe incident.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.50,0:15:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked James to share some of his experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.48,0:16:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He alludes to a pig named Bonnie, whose story\Nyou can hear more in depth in the video dedicated
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.13,0:16:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the crash linked in the sidebar and below:
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.73,0:16:10.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: As soon as I parked my car and got\Nout, you could hear the pigs screaming.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.95,0:16:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was blood on the sidewalk.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.73,0:16:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some pigs had escaped.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.89,0:16:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my naïveté, I expect to find\Npeople that are helping the pigs and that
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.54,0:16:20.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wasn’t happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.61,0:16:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were people; office workers, that were\Nholding cardboard to shield the truth from
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.74,0:16:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.74,0:16:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cops were complicit in that.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.34,0:16:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It got worse after Anita left.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.18,0:16:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t know what they’re called, but\Nspecial unit cops arrived with tasers and
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.32,0:16:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was all around hiding the truth.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.74,0:16:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We didn’t see this, so we don’t know,\Nbut no injured pigs came off the truck so
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.48,0:16:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they must have killed a lot of pigs because\Nwhen I got there the screaming was the worst
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.18,0:16:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screaming and we had heard them screaming\Nevery single week.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.07,0:16:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the worst screaming I had ever heard.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.77,0:16:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they walked was it forty or fifty pigs\Noff the truck.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.83,0:17:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They shot Bonnie in front of us but there\Nwere no other injured pigs so I strongly suspect
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.72,0:17:09.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they killed a lot of the pigs on the truck\Nbecause all that screaming suddenly stopped.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.39,0:17:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean people are compassionate and people\Nhave empathy.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.89,0:17:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is why animal agriculture has spent so\Nmuch time and money and effort into shielding
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.22,0:17:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the truth because if people knew what’s\Nhappening they would make the change they
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.34,0:17:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would go vegan.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.34,0:17:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would not support and pay for this to\Nhappen
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.84,0:17:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s precisely what the Pig Trial\Nis accomplishing.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.33,0:17:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In reality, it’s not so much that Anita\Nor her lawyers or Toronto Pig Save came up
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.44,0:17:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with some revolutionary argument never before\Nvoiced by animal activists.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.44,0:17:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it comes to veganism and the rights,\Nemotions, individuality, and capacity to suffer
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.07,0:17:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of non-human animals, it’s not a lack of\Ncompelling evidence but rather a lack of a
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.16,0:17:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,large enough platform that hinders the reach\Nof the message.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.83,0:17:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And unbeknownst to the truck driver and farmer on that oppressively hot day
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.33,0:18:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in June 2015, by confronting and having Anita\Ncharged they supplied that platform.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.45,0:18:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the animal products industry, so desperately\Nreliant on deception and untruths, there’s
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.83,0:18:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing more dangerous than giving the voice\Nof the animals they systematically abuse and
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.06,0:18:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kill, an international stage for their truth\Nto be heard.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.10,0:18:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s time to expose the real crimes and\Nthe real criminals.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.24,0:18:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please share this video far and wide to raise\Nawareness and give it a thumbs-up if you are
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.58,0:18:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moved by these events.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.59,0:18:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And subscribe to the channel for more vegan\Ncontent every week.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.30,0:18:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To help support Bite Size Vegan’s educational\Nefforts, please see the support links below
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.77,0:18:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in the sidebar.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.16,0:18:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Find more information about the trial, the\Ncrash, and more on the blog post for this
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.91,0:18:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video linked below.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.40,0:18:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now go live vegan, speak the truth, and I’ll\Nsee you soon.