0:00:05.960,0:00:10.480 [Jenny Holzer: Writing & Difficulty] 0:00:15.889,0:00:17.849 I have no idea whether I'll write again. 0:00:21.380,0:00:26.439 One reason why I left it was because I tend[br]to write about the most ghastly subjects. 0:00:26.439,0:00:30.539 So, it's not just the difficulty in having[br]something turn out right— 0:00:30.539,0:00:35.599 it's the difficulty of staying with the material[br]long enough to complete it. 0:00:39.860,0:00:43.980 It's necessary to be emotionally engaged when[br]writing about these topics, 0:00:43.980,0:00:47.440 so, yes, it's exhausting at times. 0:00:57.280,0:01:00.739 It's difficult to do the research on what[br]happened 0:01:00.739,0:01:04.489 and what might still be happening to various[br]detainees; 0:01:04.489,0:01:05.540 but I don't want to whine— 0:01:05.540,0:01:08.060 it would be much harder to be a detainee. 0:01:17.890,0:01:20.670 I'll leap away from the word 'values'. 0:01:22.740,0:01:25.060 I'm afraid to talk about values these days, 0:01:27.200,0:01:30.259 because usually, any time values are invoked, 0:01:30.259,0:01:35.419 it's to dismiss—or maybe incarcerate—somebody.[br][LAUGHS] 0:01:39.340,0:01:43.580 But I would like there to be less fear and[br]less cruelty— 0:01:43.590,0:01:45.010 I'll stand on that. 0:01:46.160,0:01:49.240 And I'd like to think I have some plain old[br]empathy, too. 0:01:58.220,0:02:03.020 I'm the opposite of the theater person, [LAUGHS] 0:02:04.240,0:02:06.660 because I would never be on stage! 0:02:07.320,0:02:11.200 My work might be like theater in that I hope[br]there's an audience. 0:02:14.200,0:02:17.280 There's a reason I'm anonymous in my work. 0:02:21.569,0:02:26.029 I like to be absolutely out of view and out[br]of earshot.