WEBVTT 00:00:12.904 --> 00:00:15.477 [child yelling] 00:00:19.140 --> 00:00:20.140 - We'd like to thank y'all. 00:00:20.140 --> 00:00:22.459 You know, I thank y'all personally, you know, 00:00:22.459 --> 00:00:24.000 for coming out. 00:00:25.813 --> 00:00:30.678 [applause] 00:00:30.678 --> 00:00:31.498 Please. 00:00:31.498 --> 00:00:31.998 Please. 00:00:31.998 --> 00:00:33.970 Thank you, DJ Baby Dee. 00:00:33.970 --> 00:00:34.970 [laughter] 00:00:35.650 --> 00:00:38.260 - Say it again. 00:00:38.260 --> 00:00:39.260 - DJ Baby Dee.. 00:00:39.260 --> 00:00:41.130 [laughter] 00:00:42.501 --> 00:00:45.190 This day is an exceptional day, 00:00:45.190 --> 00:00:47.480 because it's the day of the opening. 00:00:47.480 --> 00:00:50.090 So what counts now and what is the change 00:00:50.090 --> 00:00:52.070 and what is the most important thing 00:00:52.070 --> 00:00:54.430 to me as an artist is every day– 00:00:54.430 --> 00:00:57.460 to be every day here, 00:00:57.460 --> 00:01:02.721 every day here to be present and to produce something. 00:01:02.721 --> 00:01:06.000 Why the presence and the production is so important? 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.830 Because I believe only with the presence 00:01:08.830 --> 00:01:10.434 and the production, 00:01:10.434 --> 00:01:13.320 we can create the condition 00:01:13.320 --> 00:01:17.827 that the residents are implicated. 00:01:17.827 --> 00:01:20.659 So every day we will be here, 00:01:20.659 --> 00:01:24.893 and we will be present and produce the Gramsci Monument. 00:01:24.893 --> 00:01:28.689 Because this, what you see, is not the Gramsci monument. 00:01:28.689 --> 00:01:32.371 It's only the structure of the Gramsci monument. 00:01:32.371 --> 00:01:35.229 'Cause what I want to do is a new kind of monument. 00:01:35.229 --> 00:01:37.583 So this new kind of monument, 00:01:37.583 --> 00:01:40.590 I have to construct it every day in being here, 00:01:40.590 --> 00:01:42.993 in being present and in producing 00:01:42.993 --> 00:01:46.150 and in addressing it first 00:01:46.150 --> 00:01:50.450 to the family who lives in fifth floor there 00:01:50.450 --> 00:01:54.229 or the family who lives there in first floor 00:01:54.229 --> 00:01:57.320 or the woman who lives up there in the fifth floor. 00:01:57.320 --> 00:01:58.500 They are my public. 00:01:58.500 --> 00:01:59.500 This is the challenge. 00:01:59.500 --> 00:02:03.042 This what's about, the Gramsci monument: 00:02:03.042 --> 00:02:06.509 To create memory, a common memory. 00:02:08.534 --> 00:02:10.700 - Ace, deuce, and no use. 00:02:10.700 --> 00:02:11.700 [laughter] 00:02:14.251 --> 00:02:16.070 - The three the hard way. 00:02:16.070 --> 00:02:16.570 - Yo! 00:02:18.255 --> 00:02:19.272 - These are my buddies here. 00:02:19.272 --> 00:02:21.107 I could tease 'em all day long. 00:02:21.107 --> 00:02:24.120 But they--I know not to get out of line with 'em neither too, 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:25.120 'cause they'll slap me around 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:27.013 like if I'm one of their children. 00:02:27.013 --> 00:02:29.271 - You wouldn't have never figured 00:02:29.271 --> 00:02:33.928 it would've been like this when they first started out. 00:02:36.939 --> 00:02:43.008 - I believe that every human being has an understanding of art. 00:02:43.008 --> 00:02:49.980 What is separating us is smaller than what is unifying us. 00:02:49.980 --> 00:02:51.822 But in order to unify, 00:02:51.822 --> 00:02:54.940 you have really to take something who goes beyond. 00:02:54.940 --> 00:02:57.415 And this is art to me. 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:01.480 What I wanted, actually, 00:03:01.480 --> 00:03:06.000 is to establish a new term of monument. 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.550 Why it's new? 00:03:07.550 --> 00:03:09.335 Its location. 00:03:09.335 --> 00:03:11.000 It is not in a park. 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:12.690 It's not in a city center. 00:03:12.690 --> 00:03:14.170 It's where people are living. 00:03:14.170 --> 00:03:15.730 Why where people are living? 00:03:15.730 --> 00:03:16.980 Because I want to address it 00:03:16.980 --> 00:03:20.420 to what I call a nonexclusive audience. 00:03:21.274 --> 00:03:27.778 It is new because its duration has no ambition of eternity. 00:03:27.778 --> 00:03:30.569 It wants to create memory. 00:03:30.569 --> 00:03:35.599 Actually, in every artwork, I would like to establish 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.970 a new term of form, a new term of art. 00:03:38.970 --> 00:03:40.981 This is my big ambition, of course. 00:03:43.584 --> 00:03:45.528 - There's a lot of people came walkin' around, 00:03:45.528 --> 00:03:47.354 looking while they was building it. 00:03:47.354 --> 00:03:47.901 - Right. 00:03:48.530 --> 00:03:50.423 - And they wasn't sure at all. 00:03:51.267 --> 00:03:53.086 - A lot of people call this place the wood. 00:03:53.086 --> 00:03:54.476 - Yeah, the wood. 00:03:55.330 --> 00:03:58.479 - What did he call it? 00:03:58.479 --> 00:03:59.479 - The little rascals. 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.355 - Oh, yeah, the little rascal clubhouse. 00:04:01.355 --> 00:04:01.855 - Yeah, that's what I call it. 00:04:01.855 --> 00:04:03.147 - That's the best one. 00:04:03.354 --> 00:04:05.720 The one that Phil had called it, he said, 00:04:05.720 --> 00:04:07.942 "Little House on the Prairie meets the Bronx." 00:04:07.942 --> 00:04:08.939 I was like, "That's it. 00:04:08.939 --> 00:04:11.090 Michael Landon's nowhere around." 00:04:11.090 --> 00:04:12.654 [laughs] Yup. 00:04:12.654 --> 00:04:16.989 Because I decided to do it where people are living, 00:04:16.989 --> 00:04:21.874 I must find somebody who agree with my project. 00:04:21.874 --> 00:04:25.515 I call it the key figure, Erik Farmer. 00:04:25.694 --> 00:04:29.130 Erik is the president of forest houses, 00:04:29.130 --> 00:04:30.500 the key to the neighborhood. 00:04:31.624 --> 00:04:33.509 ERIK FARMER: The first response was, "What is this?" 00:04:33.509 --> 00:04:34.789 Like, "What is this about?" 00:04:34.789 --> 00:04:36.370 You know, I don't know anything about art. 00:04:36.370 --> 00:04:37.770 I don't know who Antonio Gramsci is. 00:04:37.770 --> 00:04:40.210 I didn't know who Thomas Hirschhorn was. 00:04:41.064 --> 00:04:42.790 My understanding of a monument 00:04:42.790 --> 00:04:46.300 was something that– it pretty much doesn't move. 00:04:46.300 --> 00:04:48.150 It just– you know, it stays there. 00:04:48.150 --> 00:04:49.800 So I'm like, "How can it be a monument 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:51.592 but you're saying you're gonna take it down?" 00:04:51.592 --> 00:04:53.729 So he was explaining to me this is, like, a new concept. 00:04:55.774 --> 00:04:57.400 And he actually brought me some books, 00:04:57.400 --> 00:04:59.080 some past work he did. 00:04:59.080 --> 00:05:01.340 You know, I read up on him and all that. 00:05:01.744 --> 00:05:06.840 It's a monument, but it's a temporary monument. 00:05:08.278 --> 00:05:10.110 Once he told me that, 00:05:10.110 --> 00:05:11.940 I got a understanding of what he wanted to do. 00:05:12.929 --> 00:05:15.740 And I knew he was into tape before this. 00:05:15.740 --> 00:05:17.900 He's, like, a tape freak or something. 00:05:17.900 --> 00:05:19.080 I never– he loves tape. 00:05:19.080 --> 00:05:20.930 I never seen nobody like that before. 00:05:20.930 --> 00:05:23.840 And he tells me, you know, "You can use tape for anything." 00:05:23.840 --> 00:05:25.581 How can you use tape for anything? 00:05:25.581 --> 00:05:27.634 But he really does it, really. 00:05:33.590 --> 00:05:37.249 Thomas is– he's definitely out there. 00:05:37.249 --> 00:05:39.130 But he got me out there with him. 00:05:39.130 --> 00:05:40.500 Then– then a banner. 00:05:40.500 --> 00:05:41.940 - So then we do one banner more. 00:05:41.940 --> 00:05:43.280 Can we hang it in your house? 00:05:43.280 --> 00:05:45.280 - Of course, I told you. 00:05:45.280 --> 00:05:46.789 Whenever you're ready. 00:05:46.789 --> 00:05:47.800 Whenever– yes. 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:53.181 - I asked Erik to compose a team of 15 people 00:05:53.181 --> 00:05:56.157 to build the structure. 00:05:56.157 --> 00:05:58.504 [saw whirring] 00:05:59.438 --> 00:06:04.099 What was important, I didn't tell him I need some specificity. 00:06:04.099 --> 00:06:05.830 I just needed residents. 00:06:05.830 --> 00:06:07.370 And he composed the team. 00:06:07.370 --> 00:06:10.619 And I'm very proud, even when it was very difficult, 00:06:10.619 --> 00:06:14.280 to go to the end with the team. 00:06:14.280 --> 00:06:17.580 I told it in the beginning, but when you are doing an artwork. 00:06:17.580 --> 00:06:24.699 And especially in public space, it's never a completely success. 00:06:24.699 --> 00:06:28.640 But what is nice, it's never a completely failure. 00:06:30.910 --> 00:06:33.800 - Thomas uses me as one of his main carpenters. 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:35.090 He'll tell me to do something, 00:06:35.090 --> 00:06:38.530 and I'll take my construction experience to try to add something to it. 00:06:38.530 --> 00:06:40.340 But if he doesn't want to do it that way, you know, 00:06:40.340 --> 00:06:41.340 Thomas is the boss. 00:06:41.340 --> 00:06:42.677 We have to do it his way. 00:06:42.677 --> 00:06:44.830 A lot of times, Thomas listens to how I do things. 00:06:44.830 --> 00:06:47.692 So when they walk on it, everything is balanced. 00:06:47.692 --> 00:06:48.692 - Oh. 00:06:48.940 --> 00:06:50.389 - He's not a construction guy. 00:06:50.389 --> 00:06:52.320 You know, as he say, he's an artist. 00:06:52.320 --> 00:06:53.320 You know what I'm saying? 00:06:53.320 --> 00:06:55.310 He's not a construction guy at all. 00:06:55.310 --> 00:06:58.290 - Well, we had plans made by an architect 00:06:58.290 --> 00:07:00.990 but only to get permission. 00:07:00.990 --> 00:07:01.990 [laughs] 00:07:01.990 --> 00:07:06.280 And, I mean– but also it was helpful, 00:07:06.280 --> 00:07:08.270 because, for example, I learned 00:07:08.270 --> 00:07:12.360 a staircase have a certain dimension. 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:16.440 So that I try to do– not so good, but we tried. 00:07:17.201 --> 00:07:18.789 The same with the ramp. 00:07:18.789 --> 00:07:22.250 I mean, it has to have a kind of level, of course, to go up. 00:07:22.250 --> 00:07:23.250 - I would go backwards, 00:07:23.250 --> 00:07:26.470 and then when it turned up, I would turn around. 00:07:26.470 --> 00:07:27.909 So it's fine, Thomas. 00:07:27.909 --> 00:07:28.909 - Okay. 00:07:28.909 --> 00:07:32.139 To me, it seems the only way to work together. 00:07:32.139 --> 00:07:35.860 Which I would like to call in coexistence. 00:07:35.860 --> 00:07:39.757 Seems to me much more honest to say "Coexistence" 00:07:39.757 --> 00:07:41.120 than "Collaboration." 00:07:42.581 --> 00:07:44.270 They will be paid for their work, 00:07:44.270 --> 00:07:46.840 because it's like I'm coming in a gallery 00:07:46.840 --> 00:07:50.159 And working with the people who are working for the gallery 00:07:50.159 --> 00:07:51.160 or for the museum. 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:52.954 They're paid as well. 00:07:54.280 --> 00:07:55.639 - When he first got there, 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:57.870 he didn't want people to focus on making money 00:07:57.870 --> 00:08:00.110 and people just focused on doing a job. 00:08:00.110 --> 00:08:03.960 He wanted people to understand what this gentleman was about, Antonio Gramsci. 00:08:05.061 --> 00:08:08.960 - I was very happy that in the neighborhood of forest houses, 00:08:08.960 --> 00:08:12.000 people who didn't know Antonio Gramsci 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.389 made very immediately the connection 00:08:15.389 --> 00:08:18.736 To Nelson Mandela or Malcolm X. 00:08:19.276 --> 00:08:23.220 Gramsci is a philosopher of Marxist thinking, 00:08:23.220 --> 00:08:25.590 and he comes from italy. 00:08:25.590 --> 00:08:28.960 He went to prison for his thinking. 00:08:28.960 --> 00:08:30.652 He didn't made a book. 00:08:30.652 --> 00:08:36.000 He made his notebooks, who are like layers of thinkings, 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:42.759 always related to very practical things but still with a big ambition. 00:08:51.390 --> 00:08:54.475 This is not a cultural project but an art project. 00:08:56.520 --> 00:09:00.240 It's very important to understand it as a sculpture, 00:09:02.801 --> 00:09:07.935 as something who wants to engage with the surrounding buildings. 00:09:10.350 --> 00:09:11.640 Why these materials? 00:09:11.640 --> 00:09:13.937 Because they're materials that everybody use and knows. 00:09:15.330 --> 00:09:18.207 It's not because it's in forest houses, 00:09:18.207 --> 00:09:20.850 in a socially not favorite neighborhood 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:25.196 that it is with cardboard or with tape and with wood. 00:09:25.196 --> 00:09:28.980 No, it belongs to my aesthetic vocabulary. 00:09:30.193 --> 00:09:32.040 - Shotgun, too hot to trot. 00:09:33.276 --> 00:09:36.540 Yo, we're here live, 91.9 fm. 00:09:36.540 --> 00:09:39.040 Don't forget to stop by The Gramsci bar and grill, 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:41.534 Where they've got all the beautiful food and everything. 00:09:41.534 --> 00:09:42.510 It is so... 00:09:44.139 --> 00:09:47.363 - [singing] ♪early in the morning♪ 00:09:47.363 --> 00:09:49.967 ♪drive into the street♪ 00:09:49.967 --> 00:09:51.428 That's it. 00:09:51.428 --> 00:09:53.639 [indistinct conversation] 00:09:55.549 --> 00:09:56.695 - No, island. 00:09:56.695 --> 00:09:58.379 Do you know how to spell? 00:09:58.941 --> 00:09:59.941 - Island? 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.779 - On 5:00 sunday, we got Mr. Marcus steinweg 00:10:04.779 --> 00:10:06.029 with the daily lecture. 00:10:06.029 --> 00:10:08.950 Mondays, we got our Gramsci theater. 00:10:08.950 --> 00:10:14.754 [people talking at once] 00:10:14.754 --> 00:10:16.444 - I'm going mad! 00:10:20.287 --> 00:10:21.100 People: Whoo! 00:10:22.786 --> 00:10:24.136 - Capitalism? 00:10:24.540 --> 00:10:25.890 Capitalism? 00:10:26.901 --> 00:10:28.160 Capitalism. 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:29.356 - You learn. 00:10:29.648 --> 00:10:32.890 I met people from all walk of life. 00:10:33.680 --> 00:10:34.680 I love that. 00:10:34.680 --> 00:10:36.871 That was– that was the best. 00:10:36.871 --> 00:10:37.891 - All over the world. 00:10:37.891 --> 00:10:39.180 - That's right. 00:10:39.180 --> 00:10:40.240 - The second part of my work 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.770 is what I call public interventions. 00:10:42.770 --> 00:10:44.950 I go out of the museum and gallery world, 00:10:44.950 --> 00:10:47.020 And I try to reach an audience that is larger 00:10:47.020 --> 00:10:52.499 than the small audience that we know goes to the art world. 00:10:52.499 --> 00:10:55.769 And the third part of my practice is teaching. 00:10:56.443 --> 00:10:58.339 That's fine, yeah. 00:10:58.339 --> 00:10:59.339 This is working? 00:10:59.339 --> 00:11:00.339 Okay, okay. 00:11:00.339 --> 00:11:01.339 - Sorry. 00:11:01.339 --> 00:11:02.339 - It's okay. 00:11:04.968 --> 00:11:06.918 - And if it wasn't here, they wouldn't have came. 00:11:06.918 --> 00:11:07.938 - Right. 00:11:10.118 --> 00:11:12.684 - 'Cause why would they want to come here? 00:11:17.336 --> 00:11:19.810 - On fridays, Mr. Thomas Hirschhorn himself 00:11:19.810 --> 00:11:22.839 At 11:00 in the morning to 3:00 in the afternoon 00:11:22.839 --> 00:11:24.670 with his art school. 00:11:24.670 --> 00:11:26.089 His art school is very good. 00:11:26.089 --> 00:11:28.370 I've been to the class and everything, 00:11:28.370 --> 00:11:31.180 and it's right here on the Gramsci monument stage. 00:11:31.180 --> 00:11:35.360 Thomas Hirshhorn's art school class, 11:00 in the morning. 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:41.230 And his art school class, it contains energy, yes; quality, no. 00:11:41.230 --> 00:11:44.179 - Never about judging a person, never. 00:11:44.179 --> 00:11:47.079 But judging a work with it, yes, 00:11:47.079 --> 00:11:49.779 because I believe only the judgment of something 00:11:49.779 --> 00:11:53.070 we did ourself or some other else did 00:11:53.070 --> 00:11:55.620 can help us to go forward. 00:11:55.620 --> 00:11:57.089 - If you can't take criticism... 00:11:57.089 --> 00:11:58.170 - Don't come. 00:11:58.170 --> 00:11:59.814 - Don't come to the class. 00:11:59.814 --> 00:12:01.083 - Energy, yes. 00:12:01.083 --> 00:12:02.453 Quality, no. 00:12:03.779 --> 00:12:07.649 I'm not interested in the criteria of quality, 00:12:07.649 --> 00:12:11.070 because I think the criteria of quality is exclusive. 00:12:11.070 --> 00:12:15.415 So that's why I try to invent another criteria 00:12:15.415 --> 00:12:18.326 who replace the criteria of quality, 00:12:18.326 --> 00:12:20.080 the criteria of energy. 00:12:21.182 --> 00:12:22.513 - It was kind of rough. 00:12:23.007 --> 00:12:24.456 - And make brown, right? 00:12:24.456 --> 00:12:25.741 - Can red and blue and orange? 00:12:25.741 --> 00:12:27.130 - Yeah, the last one, 00:12:27.130 --> 00:12:29.276 Because they're opposites. 00:12:29.276 --> 00:12:31.734 Orange and blue are opposites, because orange... 00:12:31.734 --> 00:12:34.040 Thomas came to my school. 00:12:34.040 --> 00:12:36.300 I graduated from Princeton University. 00:12:36.300 --> 00:12:40.147 And he did a lecture, and I had a studio visit with him. 00:12:40.147 --> 00:12:43.580 And his expression "energy, yes; quality, no" 00:12:43.580 --> 00:12:46.720 is something that really resonated with me. 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.670 So I emailed him afterwards, asking if I could be involved 00:12:50.670 --> 00:12:54.570 in his next project, and he said yes. 00:12:54.570 --> 00:12:56.750 In the beginning, it was more like a class. 00:12:57.222 --> 00:12:59.180 Like, for the first five or six weeks, 00:12:59.180 --> 00:13:02.320 there was very, like, specific activities 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.730 that we were doing about different artists, 00:13:05.730 --> 00:13:07.730 different ideas in art, 00:13:07.730 --> 00:13:10.310 different technical art concepts. 00:13:10.310 --> 00:13:11.709 But then in the last few weeks, 00:13:11.709 --> 00:13:14.570 it's been more kind of just, like, an open workshop, 00:13:14.570 --> 00:13:16.390 'cause now the kids are coming in, 00:13:16.390 --> 00:13:18.930 and they have a lot more of their own ideas. 00:13:18.930 --> 00:13:20.387 You want to spray the inside? 00:13:20.387 --> 00:13:22.617 - No, don't spray the inside. 00:13:22.819 --> 00:13:23.819 - All right. 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.400 You could spray the inside. 00:13:25.848 --> 00:13:27.370 - This is not a collaboration. 00:13:27.370 --> 00:13:30.120 This is work in coexistence 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.720 That me, I do it 100%, but the other also 100%. 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:35.920 So I cannot interfere. 00:13:35.920 --> 00:13:37.440 I don't want to interfere. 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.940 And I want to take the responsibility– and I can– 00:13:40.940 --> 00:13:43.529 of 100% of what the other does also. 00:13:43.529 --> 00:13:46.122 That I call unshared authorship. 00:13:46.122 --> 00:13:48.870 So, for example, in the radio station, 00:13:48.870 --> 00:13:52.889 what the DJ Gucci Or DJ Baby Dee told 00:13:52.889 --> 00:13:58.160 and how they told it, I take 100% responsibility about. 00:13:58.160 --> 00:14:01.352 - Offices have a certain amount of collars to get monthly, 00:14:01.352 --> 00:14:02.860 I was told. 00:14:02.860 --> 00:14:07.770 I was told, when I was writing tickets, that I had a minimum of 27 tickets 00:14:07.770 --> 00:14:10.620 I had to write per month minimum. 00:14:10.620 --> 00:14:11.779 Look around you. 00:14:11.779 --> 00:14:14.440 Notice that when you enter upon a projects, 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.170 what is it that you're walking through? 00:14:17.170 --> 00:14:19.181 Whereas it– they were not there years ago. 00:14:19.181 --> 00:14:20.011 - It's, like, gated. 00:14:20.011 --> 00:14:21.011 - Raw iron gates. 00:14:21.011 --> 00:14:21.831 - Yeah. 00:14:21.831 --> 00:14:24.790 - Once you enter upon those raw iron gates, 00:14:24.790 --> 00:14:27.240 you're practically going through a door. 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.419 That's the insignia of trespassing. 00:14:29.419 --> 00:14:31.350 - The thing is, do we go down? 00:14:31.350 --> 00:14:32.350 Do we make a complaint? 00:14:32.350 --> 00:14:33.058 - Of course. 00:14:33.058 --> 00:14:34.058 - Do we fight the ticket? 00:14:34.058 --> 00:14:34.558 Wait a minute. 00:14:34.558 --> 00:14:35.058 Let me just finish. 00:14:35.058 --> 00:14:37.540 Do we fight the ticket, or do we just let it sit 00:14:37.540 --> 00:14:39.370 and get a warrant and then double up our problem? 00:14:39.370 --> 00:14:40.529 - I think I have a solution. 00:14:40.529 --> 00:14:41.529 - Yeah, yeah, solution. 00:14:41.529 --> 00:14:42.649 Let's hear a solution. 00:14:42.649 --> 00:14:44.470 - I've been going through it, So... 00:14:44.470 --> 00:14:48.390 - Then, at 4:00, we got the daily lecture with Mr. Marcus Steinweg. 00:14:48.390 --> 00:14:53.110 His daily lecture for today is "For the Love of Philosophy." 00:14:53.110 --> 00:14:57.430 - A kind of ontological void or emptiness. 00:14:57.430 --> 00:14:59.290 What does it mean, then, for the change 00:14:59.290 --> 00:15:02.050 now transform situation of the human subject? 00:15:02.050 --> 00:15:05.699 What does it mean for the definition of what thinking is? 00:15:05.699 --> 00:15:08.839 So thinking is first to deal with this lack, 00:15:08.839 --> 00:15:10.990 with this void, with this emptiness. 00:15:10.990 --> 00:15:12.949 call it the inexistence of God. 00:15:12.949 --> 00:15:16.930 Call it simply a kind of– Call it a kind of– 00:15:16.930 --> 00:15:17.930 the whole of freedom, 00:15:17.930 --> 00:15:19.500 like Jean-Paul Sartre is claiming that. 00:15:19.935 --> 00:15:22.144 - He said that yesterday he don't believe in God. 00:15:22.144 --> 00:15:23.483 And I said, "What you mean, you don't believe in God?" 00:15:23.483 --> 00:15:26.240 That, like, it got to me. 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:29.240 I had to get up and say– I had to get up and say something. 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:30.839 "What you mean, you don't believe in God?" 00:15:30.839 --> 00:15:33.080 He said he don't believe in nothing. 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:34.434 I said, "Okay." 00:15:35.602 --> 00:15:37.509 - When I'm in front of an artwork, 00:15:37.509 --> 00:15:40.149 there are two questions. 00:15:40.149 --> 00:15:41.500 Where do you stand? 00:15:41.770 --> 00:15:44.429 What do you want? 00:15:44.429 --> 00:15:45.569 - Without getting too deep, too heavy– 00:15:45.569 --> 00:15:48.411 - Yo, this next song is a joint called I got it. 00:15:49.287 --> 00:15:51.819 And this is basically based on anybody 00:15:51.819 --> 00:15:53.620 who's ever tried to accomplish something 00:15:53.620 --> 00:15:56.380 When the odds was really against you 00:15:56.380 --> 00:15:58.110 but you still pushed forward anyway. 00:15:58.110 --> 00:15:59.230 - Yeah, yeah. 00:15:59.230 --> 00:16:01.490 - With that said, soundman. 00:16:01.490 --> 00:16:03.180 [latin guitar music] 00:16:03.180 --> 00:16:06.000 ♪like flaunting these roses♪ 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.387 ♪so many phony imposers♪ 00:16:08.387 --> 00:16:10.793 ♪so many days on the humble♪ 00:16:10.793 --> 00:16:14.025 ♪now feel my attitude crumble♪ 00:16:14.025 --> 00:16:16.377 ♪and I won't shut it off♪ 00:16:16.377 --> 00:16:18.859 ♪I've paid every cost♪ 00:16:18.859 --> 00:16:21.933 ♪so all that shots I call♪ 00:16:21.933 --> 00:16:23.628 ♪who are you to doubt it?♪ 00:16:23.628 --> 00:16:25.590 ♪many floors in entertainment♪ 00:16:25.590 --> 00:16:28.011 ♪I bear my soul 'fore it's naked♪ 00:16:28.011 --> 00:16:30.398 ♪too many dreams now faded♪ 00:16:30.398 --> 00:16:33.878 ♪they're saying I'll never make it♪ 00:16:33.878 --> 00:16:36.000 ♪and I should fold my cards♪ 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.551 ♪damn, I've come too far♪ 00:16:38.551 --> 00:16:41.294 ♪I shine above them all♪ 00:16:41.294 --> 00:16:43.853 ♪and everything I love, Man, I got it♪ 00:16:43.853 --> 00:16:45.302 Thanks for the love, Forest Projects. 00:16:45.302 --> 00:16:46.800 We out of here. 00:16:46.800 --> 00:16:49.490 - I told y'all I was gonna be crazy. 00:16:49.490 --> 00:16:51.310 You didn't believe me. 00:16:51.984 --> 00:16:53.500 I told you. 00:16:54.966 --> 00:16:55.923 MARCELLA PARADISE: Speaking and talking 00:16:55.923 --> 00:16:56.940 to other people, 00:16:56.940 --> 00:16:58.940 Listening to other people lectures, 00:16:58.940 --> 00:17:02.730 saying where they came from and from where you came from, 00:17:03.292 --> 00:17:04.148 we're gonna miss it. 00:17:04.148 --> 00:17:04.961 - Yeah. 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.050 - Yeah. 00:17:07.050 --> 00:17:08.339 - We ain't feel it yet. 00:17:08.339 --> 00:17:10.559 We ain't feel it yet, but it's gonna bring some tears. 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.579 It's gonna bring some tears here. 00:17:12.579 --> 00:17:14.512 - 'Cause that means the people go. 00:17:14.512 --> 00:17:17.049 - Right, and it's just gonna be something loss here. 00:17:17.049 --> 00:17:18.940 Just gonna be like someone die. 00:17:18.940 --> 00:17:19.940 - Mm-hmm. 00:17:19.940 --> 00:17:23.076 - Now I understand what a monument means. 00:17:23.076 --> 00:17:28.980 It's something that stays in your heart and in your memory, 00:17:28.980 --> 00:17:31.423 because they only have it once. 00:17:31.423 --> 00:17:32.935 - Yeah.