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Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.35,0:00:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wondering if we could just, like, get, like-\NYou want to get it on the wall?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.91,0:00:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, just a couple of strips on the wall.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.25,0:00:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Growing up between two cultures and two languages\Nallowed me to get some distance from them.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.86,0:00:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel authentic in one particular milieu,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.85,0:00:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I switch milieu,\Nand I feel just as authentic in that other place.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.28,0:00:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is that thing that we call identity about?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.57,0:00:32.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Action.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.57,0:00:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At a very young age there was an awareness
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.00,0:00:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how much identity is in fact a performance,\Na kind of construction,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.15,0:00:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how much narratives underpin our societies\Nand our cultures.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.52,0:00:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being able to shift from one place to another
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.41,0:00:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also puts a kind of a focus on the self\Nand this performance of authenticity.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.07,0:00:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are things that bubble around the edges\Nof my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.04,0:01:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where it becomes interesting\Nis how to explore that dimension
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.18,0:01:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without writing a political treatise,\Nor a piece of journalism,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.88,0:01:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather through understanding that this\Nis implicated
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.95,0:01:09.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in personal relationships.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.31,0:01:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a subject that I keep coming back to.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.08,0:01:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(knocking on door)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.65,0:01:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(door slams)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.90,0:01:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything okay?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.32,0:01:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.81,0:01:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.80,0:01:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.08,0:01:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: when I find my subjects,\Nthe process involves a lot of doubt about
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.67,0:01:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ethical dimension
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.67,0:01:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what I'm doing,\Nvis-a-vis someone else's story, someone else's life.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.03,0:01:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These guys have to be here?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.82,0:01:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't realize you'd be filming.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.17,0:01:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: We can stop if you're uncomfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.35,0:01:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The kind of space I create to throw those\Ndoubts into
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.79,0:02:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and shut them away is creating this\Nkind of doppelganger art,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.19,0:02:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this sort of double,\Nwho becomes the target for those issues.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.66,0:02:13.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the difference between you,\Nand someone who sits in an airplane?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.86,0:02:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no difference between us.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.73,0:02:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We do the same job.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.73,0:02:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: But you're not a real pilot.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.94,0:02:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.58,0:02:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not a real journalist.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.94,0:02:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: All those kinds of roles of someone
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.67,0:02:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is listening while at the same time\Nostensibly forming judgments.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.33,0:02:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: You sure you're okay?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.92,0:02:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: Allow me to externalize doubts,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.77,0:02:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to gain a little bit of distance\Nfrom a subject that might be very dry or very personal.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.31,0:02:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It creates a conversation about\Nthe right to take someone's story and change it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.11,0:02:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't like it?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.35,0:02:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why don't you ask me a better question?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.78,0:02:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: This project is triggered by
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.73,0:03:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a conversation with someone\Nwho is working in the drone program.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.66,0:03:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Drones are these unmanned aircraft\Nthat are controlled remotely.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.10,0:03:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a pilot who controls the movement\Nof the aircraft.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.73,0:03:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other person is responsible for all the optics.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.97,0:03:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SENSOR OPERATOR: 5,000 Feet's the best.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.38,0:03:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're a lot more sitting at 5,000 feet.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.73,0:03:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can tell you what type of shoes you're wearing\Nfrom a mile away.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.92,0:03:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the IR-infrared,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.13,0:03:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we can switch to automatically,\Nand that'll pick up any heat signatures or
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.67,0:03:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cold signatures.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.02,0:03:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if someone sits down,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.76,0:03:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's say, on a cold surface for a while and\Nthen gets up,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.89,0:03:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll still see the heat from the person.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.96,0:03:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It kind of looks like a white blossom,\Njust shining up in heaven.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.73,0:03:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's quite beautiful.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.87,0:03:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, heck, if you see somebody
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.28,0:03:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,light up a cigarette on that,\Nthat's a huge beacon.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.70,0:04:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're just on a preset path\Nflying a circular orbit,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.44,0:04:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching them as they're smoking\Nfrom about two to three miles away.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.66,0:04:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the computer will figure out the trajectory,\Nthe distance, and the speed,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.16,0:04:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and come up with an estimated time\Nthat it would take for the missile to impact.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.83,0:04:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pilot will get all the clearances\Nthat are necessary to fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.00,0:04:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'll release the missile,\Nand I'll guide it in on to its target.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.86,0:04:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(knocking on door)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.55,0:04:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: Hey, what are you doing?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.85,0:04:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're here.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.15,0:04:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything okay?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.13,0:04:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.35,0:04:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.33,0:04:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything's okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.99,0:04:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what do you want to talk about?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.43,0:04:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: That's what I was going to ask you.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.04,0:04:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Man, I don't want to talk about anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.67,0:04:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're the one paying, remember?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.13,0:05:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not paying that much.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.40,0:05:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PILOT: You want to pay any more?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.31,0:05:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(bleep)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.96,0:05:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: You okay?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.84,0:05:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, yes, it's just junk food.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.69,0:05:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The work offers a restaging of that conversation\Nand several flashbacks.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.40,0:05:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then each flashback,\Nwe eventually see a flying overhead shot of
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.56,0:05:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a landscape.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.82,0:05:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That voice that accompanies that shot
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.32,0:05:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the real sensor operator's voice,\Ndescribing his real life and work.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.67,0:05:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The work tries to weave together\Nthis person's recollections and his conversations,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.04,0:06:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reimagining that encounter several times over\Nas a kind of unresolved, repeating piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.05,0:06:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SENSOR OPERATOR: Usually I wouldn't get home\Nuntil 10:00 in the morning.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.82,0:06:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You jump in the shower,\Nget your breakfast.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.85,0:06:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Play some video games for, you know,\Nfor four hours and then try to sleep.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.95,0:06:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess Predator is similar to playing a video game,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.74,0:06:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but playing the same video game four years straight,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.95,0:06:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every single day on the same level.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.37,0:06:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then you have your moments
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.53,0:06:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there's a real emergency going on,\Nand that's just where stress comes into play.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.87,0:06:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do I hit that truck,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.96,0:06:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how far away should I put the missile\Nto get the truck
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.64,0:06:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that way I don't have any damage
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.45,0:06:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the surrounding buildings or to the people\Nor hurt anybody else's life that's around there?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.23,0:06:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sometimes I make mistakes.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.86,0:06:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, there is horror sides to working Predator.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.08,0:06:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see a lot of death.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.54,0:06:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, there came a point after, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.35,0:06:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,five years of doing this that\Nit's just I had to think about,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.53,0:06:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wow, there's so much loss of life\Nthat was a direct result of me.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.12,0:06:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, there was a lot of personal stuff\NI had to go through,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.96,0:07:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of chaplains I had to talk to,\Nand a lot of people look like,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.31,0:07:04.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How can you have PTSD\N"if you weren't actively in a war zone?"
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.100,0:07:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, technically speaking,\Nevery single day I was active in a war zone.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.38,0:07:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean I may not have been personally at harm,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.41,0:07:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was directly affecting people's lives\Nover there
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.38,0:07:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every single day.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.33,0:07:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's not like a video game.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.12,0:07:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't switch it off.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.18,0:07:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's always there.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.29,0:07:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd very much rather think about\Nthe work in terms of portraiture.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.64,0:07:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know that somebody who's painting a portrait
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.16,0:07:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is inevitably going to use a particular style\Nin order to represent the subject.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.82,0:07:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I do in a sense\Nvery often are portraits of, in this case,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.28,0:07:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the drone sensor operator or laborers in sex industry,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.07,0:07:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because they are portraits,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.84,0:07:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is somebody who's telling their story\Nand telling their stories are increasingly
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.85,0:07:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interfering
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.85,0:07:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a more passive and fluid reception\Nof who these people are and what they do.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.83,0:08:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Julia, what's coming up then\Nafter the dogs are taken care of?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.60,0:08:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you do?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.60,0:08:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to make my breakfast shake, run my bath.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.90,0:08:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: The structure of this project
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.22,0:08:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is literally showing a day in the life of workers
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.47,0:08:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the adult film industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.90,0:08:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to find a way to connect to a company\Nand to film them filming their film.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.98,0:08:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that point I started to write vignettes\Nthat I would combine with this,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.98,0:08:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there's a documentary component to it,\Nand a fictional component of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.40,0:08:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to show them simultaneously,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.80,0:08:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I wanted to show how their separate lives
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.67,0:08:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at some point converge because of their work.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.43,0:08:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The four screens represent an attempt\Nto articulate that spatially.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.94,0:08:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The work continuously braids
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.13,0:08:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stories and individuals together,\Nand it pulls them apart,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.98,0:08:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is kind of a structural dynamic there
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.57,0:08:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's about movement and repetition,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.10,0:09:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the potential for seeing beauty in something
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.83,0:09:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is as pedestrian as\Nfour people driving to work in L.A.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.42,0:09:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, how boring is that?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.27,0:09:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(music plays over radio)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.97,0:09:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I rely on fiction very much for my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.47,0:09:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything That Rises Must Converge\Nis the title of Flannery O'Connor's short story,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.71,0:09:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which served as an inspiration\Nfor what I was thinking at the time
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.16,0:09:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how I was going to approach a particular subject.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.37,0:09:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why I got in the business?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.40,0:09:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's my parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.97,0:09:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: Your parents?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.11,0:09:39.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.45,0:09:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: Were they also adult film directors?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.60,0:09:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.37,0:09:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents were hippies.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.65,0:09:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: Oh, so were mine.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.01,0:09:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.01,0:09:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, no, no, no.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.91,0:09:52.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents were the real deal.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.77,0:09:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,INTERVIEWER: Mine were too.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.32,0:09:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, dude, it's written all over you.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.93,0:10:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your parents were your typical fair-weather, happy,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.28,0:10:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-threatening flower children.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.60,0:10:07.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: There's one character whose politics\Nis correct on the one hand,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.97,0:10:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he's completely resentful towards his mother,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.47,0:10:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who represents this sort of other in the story.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.59,0:10:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Reagan democrats, am I right?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.96,0:10:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More or less.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.27,0:10:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were hippies,\Nand they lived in a commune,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.75,0:10:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in this commune they were very busy chipping away
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.77,0:10:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the hierarchies and the kind of power\Nthat underpins society at that time.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.78,0:10:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of that is sex.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.75,0:10:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of that is family and its relation to sex,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.85,0:10:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so he describes a past where 38 people\Nare sleeping and working together.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.79,0:10:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sex is something that you do with everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.00,0:10:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's your obligation to do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.66,0:10:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It becomes in a sense, work,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.76,0:10:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that defines that particular society\Nand that children are also involved in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.35,0:10:54.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something that this character has\Nbeen through.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.19,0:10:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the particular conundrum\Nthat that person is stuck in and that he represents.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.59,0:11:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DIRECTOR: Okay, sexy time, ready?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.12,0:11:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one's got to be the one for all the marbles.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.81,0:11:04.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel it in my loins.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.49,0:11:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here we go.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.28,0:11:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please hold.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.07,0:11:08.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sexy time,\Nand hold on please.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.27,0:11:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: When they're acting in front of the camera
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.01,0:11:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their film,\Nthey're in a genre.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.45,0:11:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're mannered.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.45,0:11:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DIRECTOR: Here we go.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.13,0:11:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Action.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.08,0:11:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He turned out to be 70 years old.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.75,0:11:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.75,0:11:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, his picture was from 1986.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.64,0:11:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This woman is a goddess.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.12,0:11:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She needs to be appreciated,\Nlike a fine wine, aged to perfection.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.03,0:11:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just, just.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.06,0:11:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: It's a very stylized kind of performance,\Nusing a particular language for a particular
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.83,0:11:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,audience.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.84,0:11:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were in a sense the most banal,\Nand that's what I was after.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.49,0:11:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Yeah, but you're just a-
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.51,0:11:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: It's very, very postmodern in a sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.21,0:11:48.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not bad actors.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.73,0:11:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're just playing in a particular way.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.06,0:11:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's genre,\Nand I like using these different genres
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.72,0:11:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sort of unpacking their languages\Nand playing around with that.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.95,0:11:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DIRECTOR: As soon as she starts talking,\Nit's going to move.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.30,0:12:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.59,0:12:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tom, do you mind if-
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.09,0:12:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first page?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.42,0:12:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Bueno todo estas?"
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.82,0:12:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.69,0:12:05.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.72,0:12:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(actress speaking Spanish)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.00,0:12:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This character pulls you into another location,\Nwhich is a studio.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.07,0:12:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's your guide into this world.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.63,0:12:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She reappears when you're lost or bored.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.97,0:12:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her reading of the script and interaction\Nwith a director
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.03,0:12:30.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constitutes a distant and critical element,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.04,0:12:33.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this other narrative regarding crossing the border
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.97,0:12:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and migration.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.20,0:12:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(actress speaks Spanish)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.92,0:12:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But she really said all this stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.73,0:12:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything stands on something else.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.33,0:12:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything stands for something else.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.25,0:12:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, she did.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.44,0:12:45.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, there's some editing.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.22,0:12:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all that stuff about licking,\Nyou know, the wet dog at the beginning,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.76,0:12:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the wind licking,\Nand cold, bitter bursts.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.87,0:12:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wait, where does it say this?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.04,0:13:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they're on the truck on the way to the border.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.27,0:13:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's biting, not licking.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.96,0:13:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.12,0:13:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a way to stop the flow.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.60,0:13:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it makes you think twice\Nabout what you're hearing.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.30,0:13:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There will be a man and his wife\Nwho are undergoing a particular crisis,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.67,0:13:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and perhaps a moment of transformation,\Nperhaps not.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.63,0:13:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, action.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.72,0:13:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These two brothers I told you about,\Nthe ones I keep seeing.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.76,0:13:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JOSH: You mean brothers, like two Black dudes, or, like?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.07,0:13:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were white, Josh.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.01,0:13:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Biological brothers.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.36,0:13:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe twins.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.49,0:13:34.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They looked really similar.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.45,0:13:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What they find?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.46,0:13:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An egg.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.00,0:13:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of egg?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.03,0:13:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I mean, like a chicken egg?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.82,0:13:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMERFAST: In order to resolve the crisis,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.79,0:13:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need to produce something,\Nand so they don't produce a child.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.41,0:13:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They produce a story,\Nand that story produces an egg.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.92,0:13:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was, like, perfectly oval.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.32,0:13:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it looked old.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.42,0:13:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trust me, Josh.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.42,0:13:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was an egg.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.42,0:14:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Plus, they handled it carefully.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.10,0:14:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OMER: People always talk about my work\Nin terms of the real and the fictional,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.47,0:14:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is not interesting to me at all,\Nthese notions of truth and the real
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.29,0:14:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are hugely important for us\Nwhen we're talking in terms of a process of justice.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.37,0:14:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not a journalist.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.22,0:14:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My work does not exist in the court of law.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.42,0:14:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It exists in the space of art,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.05,0:14:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the space of art allows\Nfor ambiguities and for contradictions.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.68,0:14:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This whole fetishized notion of truth and ideal,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.04,0:14:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a lovely thing to aspire to,\Nis in a sense the plaything in the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.25,0:14:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To think about the work in terms of truth\Nand lies
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.74,0:14:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or truth and fiction is to kill the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.35,0:14:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(knocking on door)
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.77,0:14:59.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What, what are you doing?