0:00:04.385,0:00:09.489 <Breaking Bad Habits> 0:00:09.489,0:00:12.251 (Questioner) I'm very glad[br]to see you again. 0:00:12.251,0:00:18.827 Thank you for all the help you've provided[br]for me and a lot of people. 0:00:18.827,0:00:22.459 Definitely, your wisdom is very much[br]appreciated and accepted. 0:00:22.459,0:00:31.614 I'm doing pretty good lately [br]and, at times, feel a lot of equanimity. 0:00:31.614,0:00:38.626 While there is a lot of peace of mind, there's [br]always a nagging voice in the background. 0:00:38.626,0:00:45.222 I'm afraid to go back to my old habits. 0:00:45.222,0:01:00.114 Even though I've improved a lot,[br]there are moments I still fall back, 0:01:00.114,0:01:05.896 and I feel frustrated when that happens. 0:01:05.896,0:01:22.579 Practice has been incredible[br]in easing most of my mental afflictions 0:01:22.579,0:01:28.418 through a lot of reflection,[br]and I feel much better. 0:01:28.418,0:01:37.332 But now that I've been feeling this[br]equanimity for a few weeks 0:01:37.332,0:01:38.791 and feeling very good, 0:01:38.791,0:01:45.314 there's always a nervousness that[br]I'll fall back into my habitual patterns. 0:01:45.314,0:01:52.934 In a way, that's a negative thinking. 0:01:52.934,0:01:58.494 It's very difficult [br]to break these habitual patterns. 0:01:58.494,0:02:04.490 Why is it so difficult? 0:02:04.490,0:02:15.430 (Sunim) Has your relationship with[br]your daughter improved a lot, or 0:02:15.430,0:02:22.480 have you been able to let go of the issues [br]that were hanging over that relationship? 0:02:22.480,0:02:24.280 (Questioner) Yes. 0:02:24.280,0:02:31.650 (Sunim) That's great. [br]Let me ask you a question. 0:02:31.650,0:02:53.345 Which one is more likely to succeed:[br]trying something for the first time, 0:02:53.345,0:03:02.640 or trying what you have succeeded[br]previously and going at it again? 0:03:02.640,0:03:12.091 (Questioner) Sometimes it's more difficult [br]to go back and review all these patterns. 0:03:12.091,0:03:15.627 Sometimes it's a little easier. 0:03:15.627,0:03:19.163 But let's say it's easier[br]to go through new things. 0:03:19.163,0:03:31.833 Still there's some difficulty in that too,[br]but it gives a better outcome in some way. 0:03:31.833,0:03:40.453 (Sunim) You've experienced[br]some tough times in your life. 0:03:40.453,0:03:50.090 And you said you have gotten a lot better[br]and can maintain equanimity, 0:03:50.090,0:03:54.675 having gone through a lot of practice and[br]putting in a lot of effort to get there. 0:03:54.675,0:04:11.720 Even if your concern comes true[br]and you revert back, 0:04:11.720,0:04:15.675 would you be a little better than before,[br]knowing what you know 0:04:15.675,0:04:21.260 and having the capacity that you do, [br]or would you be just as bad as before? 0:04:21.260,0:04:26.442 (Questioner) I'll be definitely better off[br]knowing what I know now, much better. 0:04:26.442,0:04:29.241 And in many ways, I'm very glad to have overcome my mental attachments; ery glad that whatever I needed to overcome - my mental attachements Through everything I did to overcome[br]my mental attachments, 0:04:29.241,0:04:37.444 I'm much better off in many ways.[br]I'm much better off now. 0:04:37.444,0:04:39.651 I am so glad that [br]I went through the work 0:04:39.651,0:04:46.989 because I definitely think[br]I am in a better place. 0:04:46.989,0:05:33.651 (Sunim) Let's say [br]you started off at minus 10, 0:05:33.651,0:05:39.181 then you worked yourself [br]all the way up to plus 10. 0:05:39.181,0:05:45.266 Even if you relapse, as you are concerned, [br]you won't relapse all the way to minus 10, 0:05:45.266,0:05:52.347 you'll relapse maybe to minus 5,[br]but your starting point is now at minus 5. 0:05:52.347,0:05:57.492 Getting to plus 10 or 15 from that point[br]will be much easier than the first time. 0:05:57.492,0:06:01.122 So, what I'm trying to say is [br]that even if you relapse, 0:06:01.122,0:06:05.363 the intensity is not as bad as before, [br]and you have already built up 0:06:05.363,0:06:08.023 the capacity to bring[br]yourself back up. 0:06:08.023,0:06:11.411 So there's no reason [br]for you to be concerned. 0:06:11.411,0:06:32.228 You need to practice being awake [br]as much as possible in order to not relapse, 0:06:32.228,0:06:37.171 but you do not need to worry about[br]falling all the way back to the beginning. 0:06:37.171,0:06:43.325 It will be much easier to get back up[br]as you now have the capacity. 0:06:43.325,0:06:50.234 So, I'm saying that [br]you should not be scared. 0:06:50.234,0:06:54.433 First, you won't relapse. 0:06:54.433,0:06:59.013 Second, even if you do, it's going to be[br]easier for you to come back. 0:06:59.013,0:07:05.203 You'll do well, [br]there's no need for worries. 0:07:05.203,0:07:15.710 Ultimately what I'm trying to say is that [br]there's nothing there for you to be afraid of. 0:07:15.710,0:07:23.092 (Questioner) Thank you.[br]You're right and I really get your point. 0:07:23.092,0:07:31.883 I cannot say it's greed,[br]but definitely understand now 0:07:31.883,0:07:41.288 that even when I relapse to[br]some kind of a mental affliction 0:07:41.288,0:07:47.581 or attachment to these habitual patterns,[br]their intensity is much less by far. 0:07:47.581,0:07:54.549 I definitely agree with you that from [br]a minus position, possibly I work up to 10. 0:07:54.549,0:07:59.456 I agree, you are right.[br]I have already experienced that. 0:07:59.456,0:08:03.605 It's good that you mentioned[br]because I do fall but I don't feel 0:08:03.605,0:08:07.299 that I fall that deep anymore. 0:08:07.299,0:08:09.619 It's good to know.[br]Thank you very much. 0:08:09.619,0:08:30.284 (Sunim) The fear comes because you are [br]attached to the current state of positivity. 0:08:30.284,0:08:35.726 You should just observe that you are [br]in a good state and you are maintaining 0:08:35.726,0:08:40.110 equanimity and peace of mind [br]instead of being attached to that state. 0:08:40.110,0:08:47.690 Our mind is always dynamic,[br]it's constantly moving. 0:08:47.690,0:08:55.370 Just because you are in a good state now, [br]you can't try to grab onto it. 0:08:55.370,0:09:06.079 All you can do is just observe it [br]as it fluctuates and moves in dynamic ways 0:09:06.079,0:09:20.550 The fear comes from your attachment [br]and desire to hold on to that good state. 0:09:20.550,0:09:31.700 First, you need to avoid attaching yourself to[br]or obsessing over the current state. 0:09:31.700,0:09:40.850 Second, it is for you to realize [br]that even if you go back, 0:09:40.850,0:09:43.850 it's not something [br]for you to be afraid of.