(Bell) If there is no such a thing as death, then why is it wrong to kill? If there is no such a thing as death, then why is it wrong to kill? Very good question. (Crowd laughs) When you want to kill, when you want to kill, you have wrong perceptions. You think that you can kill. Suppose you want to kill a cloud because you don't know that a cloud can never die. A cloud can only become snow or rain. So the willingness to kill is a kind of energy characterized by ignorance, wrong perception, anger and violence. That is why the act of killing is wrong. Wrong because it does not have intelligence, wisdom. It has a lot of violence and suffering. Even before the act of trying to kill is already wrong. What is wrong can bring a lot of suffering. Not to... not to the other person, but to ourselves. The person who killed Martin Luther King, the person who killed Mahatma Gandhi, the person who killed John F. Kennedy, the person who killed Jesus Christ, they were people who suffered a lot. They had a lot of anger, fear, violence, because they have a lot of ignorance, wrong perceptions, they think that they can kill. You cannot kill Martin Luther King. He becomes very strong after your attempt to kill him. Martin Luther King now is stronger than before. Suppose you want to kill a cloud. How can you kill a cloud? You lose your time. So, your attempt to kill someone, to destroy someone will only lead to your suffering. That is why we have to touch the true nature of no birth and no death. Someone who commits suicide, that is an act bringing you a lot of suffering. Because he thinks that he can kill himself. But the fact is that he cannot kill himself. His attempt to kill himself makes him suffer more and makes people around him suffer more. You cannot die. You cannot kill someone. So, Mahatma Gandhi is still alive and he is very strong now. He is in every one of us. Martin Luther King also. Jesus Christ also. The Buddha also. In his time many people tried to kill the Buddha also (laughs). So, the willingness to kill is suffering because it has ignorance, anger, violence in it. Modern science also agrees with the Buddha that you cannot kill anything. You cannot make anything disappear. Nothing can die. 'Rien ne se crée, rien ne se perd. Tout se transforme.' There is only transformation. There is no death. On the appearance, it seems that there is death and birth. But if you go deeply, you see that it is not true. If you study science, chemistry, biology deeply, you will touch the truth of no birth and no death. (Bell)