1 00:00:00,626 --> 00:00:04,981 About 10 years ago, I took on the task to teach global development 2 00:00:05,005 --> 00:00:07,028 to Swedish undergraduate students. 3 00:00:07,052 --> 00:00:09,972 That was after having spent about 20 years 4 00:00:09,996 --> 00:00:13,506 together with African institutions studying hunger in Africa, 5 00:00:13,530 --> 00:00:17,449 so I was sort of expected to know a little about the world. 6 00:00:17,473 --> 00:00:20,976 And I started in our medical university, Karolinska Institute, 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,370 an undergraduate course called Global Health. 8 00:00:24,394 --> 00:00:27,376 But when you get that opportunity, you get a little nervous. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,275 I thought, these students coming to us 10 00:00:29,299 --> 00:00:32,811 actually have the highest grade you can get in Swedish college systems -- 11 00:00:32,835 --> 00:00:36,252 so I thought, maybe they know everything I'm going to teach them about. 12 00:00:36,276 --> 00:00:37,976 So I did a pre-test when they came. 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,708 And one of the questions from which I learned a lot was this one: 14 00:00:41,732 --> 00:00:45,670 "Which country has the highest child mortality of these five pairs?" 15 00:00:46,821 --> 00:00:49,610 I put them together, so that in each pair of country, 16 00:00:49,634 --> 00:00:53,429 one has twice the child mortality of the other. 17 00:00:53,453 --> 00:00:57,698 And this means that it's much bigger a difference 18 00:00:57,722 --> 00:00:59,393 than the uncertainty of the data. 19 00:00:59,417 --> 00:01:01,732 I won't put you at a test here, but it's Turkey, 20 00:01:01,756 --> 00:01:05,976 which is highest there, Poland, Russia, Pakistan and South Africa. 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,656 And these were the results of the Swedish students. 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,585 I did it so I got the confidence interval, which is pretty narrow, and I got happy, 23 00:01:12,609 --> 00:01:15,400 of course: a 1.8 right answer out of five possible. 24 00:01:15,424 --> 00:01:18,976 That means that there was a place for a professor of international health 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,107 and for my course. 26 00:01:20,131 --> 00:01:21,249 (Laughter) 27 00:01:21,273 --> 00:01:24,976 But one late night, when I was compiling the report, 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,832 I really realized my discovery. 29 00:01:27,856 --> 00:01:30,963 I have shown that Swedish top students 30 00:01:30,987 --> 00:01:35,976 know statistically significantly less about the world than the chimpanzees. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,976 (Laughter) 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,230 Because the chimpanzee would score half right 33 00:01:41,254 --> 00:01:44,113 if I gave them two bananas with Sri Lanka and Turkey. 34 00:01:44,137 --> 00:01:47,559 They would be right half of the cases. But the students are not there. 35 00:01:47,583 --> 00:01:51,798 The problem for me was not ignorance; it was preconceived ideas. 36 00:01:51,822 --> 00:01:54,559 I did also an unethical study 37 00:01:54,583 --> 00:01:56,806 of the professors of the Karolinska Institute, 38 00:01:56,830 --> 00:01:59,191 that hands out the Nobel Prize in Medicine, 39 00:01:59,215 --> 00:02:01,406 and they are on par with the chimpanzee there. 40 00:02:01,430 --> 00:02:04,454 (Laughter) 41 00:02:04,478 --> 00:02:08,661 This is where I realized that there was really a need to communicate, 42 00:02:08,685 --> 00:02:11,587 because the data of what's happening in the world 43 00:02:11,611 --> 00:02:14,782 and the child health of every country is very well aware. 44 00:02:14,806 --> 00:02:17,726 We did this software which displays it like this: 45 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:19,531 every bubble here is a country. 46 00:02:19,555 --> 00:02:24,572 This country over here is China. 47 00:02:24,596 --> 00:02:25,597 This is India. 48 00:02:25,621 --> 00:02:27,885 The size of the bubble is the population, 49 00:02:27,909 --> 00:02:31,690 and on this axis here, I put fertility rate. 50 00:02:31,714 --> 00:02:33,976 Because my students, what they said 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,809 when they looked upon the world, and I asked them, 52 00:02:36,833 --> 00:02:39,179 "What do you really think about the world?" 53 00:02:39,203 --> 00:02:42,745 Well, I first discovered that the textbook was Tintin, mainly. 54 00:02:42,769 --> 00:02:43,918 (Laughter) 55 00:02:43,942 --> 00:02:46,457 And they said, "The world is still 'we' and 'them.' 56 00:02:46,481 --> 00:02:49,449 And 'we' is Western world and 'them' is Third World." 57 00:02:50,328 --> 00:02:52,891 "And what do you mean with Western world?" I said. 58 00:02:52,915 --> 00:02:54,892 "Well, that's long life and small family, 59 00:02:54,916 --> 00:02:57,248 and Third World is short life and large family." 60 00:02:58,058 --> 00:03:00,436 So this is what I could display here. 61 00:03:00,460 --> 00:03:03,836 I put fertility rate here: number of children per woman: 62 00:03:03,860 --> 00:03:06,976 one, two, three, four, up to about eight children per woman. 63 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,345 We have very good data since 1962 -- 1960 about -- 64 00:03:11,369 --> 00:03:13,402 on the size of families in all countries. 65 00:03:13,426 --> 00:03:14,801 The error margin is narrow. 66 00:03:14,825 --> 00:03:16,672 Here, I put life expectancy at birth, 67 00:03:16,696 --> 00:03:19,976 from 30 years in some countries up to about 70 years. 68 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,976 And 1962, there was really a group of countries here 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,253 that was industrialized countries, 70 00:03:26,277 --> 00:03:28,601 and they had small families and long lives. 71 00:03:28,625 --> 00:03:30,639 And these were the developing countries: 72 00:03:30,663 --> 00:03:33,741 they had large families and they had relatively short lives. 73 00:03:33,765 --> 00:03:37,644 Now, what has happened since 1962? We want to see the change. 74 00:03:37,668 --> 00:03:40,605 Are the students right? Is it still two types of countries? 75 00:03:40,629 --> 00:03:44,188 Or have these developing countries got smaller families and they live here? 76 00:03:44,212 --> 00:03:46,687 Or have they got longer lives and live up there? 77 00:03:46,711 --> 00:03:48,552 Let's see. We stopped the world then. 78 00:03:48,576 --> 00:03:51,062 This is all U.N. statistics that have been available. 79 00:03:51,086 --> 00:03:52,587 Here we go. Can you see there? 80 00:03:52,611 --> 00:03:55,898 It's China there, moving against better health there, improving there. 81 00:03:55,922 --> 00:03:59,567 All the green Latin American countries are moving towards smaller families. 82 00:03:59,591 --> 00:04:02,013 Your yellow ones here are the Arabic countries, 83 00:04:02,037 --> 00:04:05,938 and they get longer life, but not larger families. 84 00:04:05,962 --> 00:04:08,584 The Africans are the green here. They still remain here. 85 00:04:08,608 --> 00:04:10,986 This is India; Indonesia is moving on pretty fast. 86 00:04:11,010 --> 00:04:12,039 (Laughter) 87 00:04:12,063 --> 00:04:15,498 In the '80s here, you have Bangladesh still among the African countries. 88 00:04:15,522 --> 00:04:18,475 But now, Bangladesh -- it's a miracle that happens in the '80s: 89 00:04:18,499 --> 00:04:20,976 the imams start to promote family planning. 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,839 They move up into that corner. 91 00:04:22,863 --> 00:04:26,064 And in the '90s, we have the terrible HIV epidemic 92 00:04:26,088 --> 00:04:29,694 that takes down the life expectancy of the African countries 93 00:04:29,718 --> 00:04:32,976 and all the rest of them move up into the corner, 94 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,914 where we have long lives and small family, and we have a completely new world. 95 00:04:37,938 --> 00:04:41,152 (Applause) 96 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:49,976 (Applause ends) 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,380 Let me make a comparison directly 98 00:04:52,404 --> 00:04:55,331 between the United States of America and Vietnam. 99 00:04:55,355 --> 00:04:56,554 1964. 100 00:04:57,538 --> 00:05:00,149 America had small families and long life; 101 00:05:00,173 --> 00:05:03,299 Vietnam had large families and short lives. 102 00:05:03,323 --> 00:05:04,991 And this is what happens: 103 00:05:05,015 --> 00:05:09,976 the data during the war indicate that even with all the death, 104 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,153 there was an improvement of life expectancy. 105 00:05:12,177 --> 00:05:15,141 By the end of the year, the family planning started in Vietnam; 106 00:05:15,165 --> 00:05:16,732 they went for smaller families. 107 00:05:16,756 --> 00:05:19,647 And the United States up there is getting for longer life, 108 00:05:19,671 --> 00:05:20,778 keeping family size. 109 00:05:20,802 --> 00:05:23,838 And in the '80s now, they give up Communist planning 110 00:05:23,862 --> 00:05:25,821 and they go for market economy, 111 00:05:25,845 --> 00:05:27,846 and it moves faster even than social life. 112 00:05:27,870 --> 00:05:30,151 And today, we have in Vietnam 113 00:05:30,175 --> 00:05:34,846 the same life expectancy and the same family size 114 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:37,945 here in Vietnam, 2003, 115 00:05:37,969 --> 00:05:41,705 as in United States, 1974, by the end of the war. 116 00:05:42,562 --> 00:05:45,809 If we don't look in the data, 117 00:05:45,833 --> 00:05:48,976 I think we all underestimate the tremendous change in Asia, 118 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,769 which was in social change before we saw the economical change. 119 00:05:53,793 --> 00:05:57,976 Let's move over to another way here in which we could display 120 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,877 the distribution in the world of the income. 121 00:06:01,901 --> 00:06:05,368 This is the world distribution of income of people. 122 00:06:06,499 --> 00:06:09,976 One dollar, 10 dollars or 100 dollars per day. 123 00:06:11,071 --> 00:06:14,412 There's no gap between rich and poor any longer. This is a myth. 124 00:06:14,436 --> 00:06:16,451 There's a little hump here. 125 00:06:17,119 --> 00:06:18,976 But there are people all the way. 126 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,976 And if we look where the income ends up, 127 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,322 this is 100 percent the world's annual income. 128 00:06:27,346 --> 00:06:29,809 And the richest 20 percent, 129 00:06:29,833 --> 00:06:33,707 they take out of that about 74 percent. 130 00:06:33,731 --> 00:06:38,882 And the poorest 20 percent, they take about two percent. 131 00:06:38,906 --> 00:06:41,815 And this shows that the concept of developing countries 132 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,194 is extremely doubtful. 133 00:06:43,218 --> 00:06:44,976 We think about aid, 134 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,948 like these people here giving aid to these people here. 135 00:06:48,972 --> 00:06:51,610 But in the middle, we have most of the world population, 136 00:06:51,634 --> 00:06:54,725 and they have now 24 percent of the income. 137 00:06:54,749 --> 00:06:58,519 We heard it in other forms. And who are these? 138 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:02,944 Where are the different countries? I can show you Africa. 139 00:07:02,968 --> 00:07:04,392 This is Africa. 140 00:07:05,122 --> 00:07:07,786 10% the world population, most in poverty. 141 00:07:07,810 --> 00:07:09,823 This is OECD. 142 00:07:09,847 --> 00:07:12,430 The rich country. The country club of the U.N. 143 00:07:12,454 --> 00:07:17,870 And they are over here on this side. Quite an overlap between Africa and OECD. 144 00:07:17,894 --> 00:07:19,242 And this is Latin America. 145 00:07:19,266 --> 00:07:22,621 It has everything on this Earth, from the poorest to the richest 146 00:07:22,645 --> 00:07:23,893 in Latin America. 147 00:07:23,917 --> 00:07:26,935 And on top of that, we can put East Europe, 148 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:30,348 we can put East Asia, and we put South Asia. 149 00:07:30,372 --> 00:07:33,502 And how did it look like if we go back in time, 150 00:07:33,526 --> 00:07:35,429 to about 1970? 151 00:07:35,453 --> 00:07:37,975 Then there was more of a hump. 152 00:07:39,154 --> 00:07:42,562 And we have most who lived in absolute poverty were Asians. 153 00:07:42,586 --> 00:07:45,778 The problem in the world was the poverty in Asia. 154 00:07:45,802 --> 00:07:48,976 And if I now let the world move forward, 155 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,750 you will see that while population increases, 156 00:07:51,774 --> 00:07:54,843 there are hundreds of millions in Asia getting out of poverty 157 00:07:54,867 --> 00:07:57,076 and some others getting into poverty, 158 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:59,001 and this is the pattern we have today. 159 00:07:59,025 --> 00:08:01,096 And the best projection from the World Bank 160 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,854 is that this will happen, 161 00:08:02,878 --> 00:08:04,906 and we will not have a divided world. 162 00:08:04,930 --> 00:08:06,825 We'll have most people in the middle. 163 00:08:06,849 --> 00:08:08,754 Of course it's a logarithmic scale here, 164 00:08:08,778 --> 00:08:12,297 but our concept of economy is growth with percent. 165 00:08:12,321 --> 00:08:17,369 We look upon it as a possibility of percentile increase. 166 00:08:17,393 --> 00:08:22,320 If I change this, and take GDP per capita instead of family income, 167 00:08:22,344 --> 00:08:26,070 and I turn these individual data 168 00:08:26,094 --> 00:08:29,136 into regional data of gross domestic product, 169 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,461 and I take the regions down here, 170 00:08:31,485 --> 00:08:33,724 the size of the bubble is still the population. 171 00:08:33,748 --> 00:08:36,946 And you have the OECD there, and you have sub-Saharan Africa there, 172 00:08:36,970 --> 00:08:38,976 and we take off the Arab states there, 173 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,976 coming both from Africa and from Asia, and we put them separately, 174 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,976 and we can expand this axis, and I can give it a new dimension here, 175 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,362 by adding the social values there, child survival. 176 00:08:51,386 --> 00:08:53,550 Now I have money on that axis, 177 00:08:53,574 --> 00:08:56,267 and I have the possibility of children to survive there. 178 00:08:56,291 --> 00:09:00,437 In some countries, 99.7% of children survive to five years of age; 179 00:09:00,461 --> 00:09:02,186 others, only 70. 180 00:09:02,210 --> 00:09:05,285 And here, it seems, there is a gap between OECD, 181 00:09:05,309 --> 00:09:08,554 Latin America, East Europe, East Asia, 182 00:09:08,578 --> 00:09:12,470 Arab states, South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa. 183 00:09:12,494 --> 00:09:17,372 The linearity is very strong between child survival and money. 184 00:09:17,396 --> 00:09:20,420 But let me split sub-Saharan Africa. 185 00:09:20,444 --> 00:09:25,665 Health is there and better health is up there. 186 00:09:25,689 --> 00:09:29,976 I can go here and I can split sub-Saharan Africa into its countries. 187 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,577 And when it burst, 188 00:09:31,601 --> 00:09:35,247 the size of its country bubble is the size of the population. 189 00:09:35,271 --> 00:09:37,811 Sierra Leone down there. Mauritius is up there. 190 00:09:37,835 --> 00:09:39,902 Mauritius was the first country 191 00:09:39,926 --> 00:09:43,327 to get away with trade barriers, and they could sell their sugar -- 192 00:09:43,351 --> 00:09:44,939 they could sell their textiles -- 193 00:09:44,963 --> 00:09:48,603 on equal terms as the people in Europe and North America. 194 00:09:48,627 --> 00:09:52,104 There's a huge difference between Africa. And Ghana is here in the middle. 195 00:09:52,128 --> 00:09:54,976 In Sierra Leone, humanitarian aid. 196 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,926 Here in Uganda, development aid. 197 00:09:58,950 --> 00:10:01,474 Here, time to invest; there, you can go for a holiday. 198 00:10:01,498 --> 00:10:04,861 It's a tremendous variation within Africa 199 00:10:04,885 --> 00:10:07,976 which we rarely often make -- that it's equal everything. 200 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,976 I can split South Asia here. India's the big bubble in the middle. 201 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,462 But a huge difference between Afghanistan and Sri Lanka. 202 00:10:16,486 --> 00:10:18,640 I can split Arab states. How are they? 203 00:10:18,664 --> 00:10:22,800 Same climate, same culture, same religion -- huge difference. 204 00:10:22,824 --> 00:10:24,157 Even between neighbors. 205 00:10:24,181 --> 00:10:25,497 Yemen, civil war. 206 00:10:25,521 --> 00:10:29,864 United Arab Emirates, money, which was quite equally and well used. 207 00:10:29,888 --> 00:10:31,373 Not as the myth is. 208 00:10:31,397 --> 00:10:34,570 And that includes all the children of the foreign workers 209 00:10:34,594 --> 00:10:36,481 who are in the country. 210 00:10:37,284 --> 00:10:40,976 Data is often better than you think. Many people say data is bad. 211 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,143 There is an uncertainty margin, but we can see the difference here: 212 00:10:44,167 --> 00:10:45,529 Cambodia, Singapore. 213 00:10:45,553 --> 00:10:48,524 The differences are much bigger than the weakness of the data. 214 00:10:48,548 --> 00:10:53,195 East Europe: Soviet economy for a long time, 215 00:10:53,219 --> 00:10:56,431 but they come out after 10 years very, very differently. 216 00:10:56,455 --> 00:10:59,077 And there is Latin America. 217 00:10:59,101 --> 00:11:00,822 Today, we don't have to go to Cuba 218 00:11:00,846 --> 00:11:02,910 to find a healthy country in Latin America. 219 00:11:02,934 --> 00:11:07,568 Chile will have a lower child mortality than Cuba within some few years from now. 220 00:11:07,592 --> 00:11:10,647 Here, we have high-income countries in the OECD. 221 00:11:10,671 --> 00:11:14,380 And we get the whole pattern here of the world, 222 00:11:14,404 --> 00:11:16,450 which is more or less like this. 223 00:11:16,474 --> 00:11:21,565 And if we look at it, how the world looks, 224 00:11:21,617 --> 00:11:24,976 in 1960, it starts to move. 225 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,569 This is Mao Tse-tung. He brought health to China. 226 00:11:27,593 --> 00:11:28,727 And then he died. 227 00:11:28,751 --> 00:11:31,458 And then Deng Xiaoping came and brought money to China, 228 00:11:31,482 --> 00:11:33,536 and brought them into the mainstream again. 229 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:37,718 And we have seen how countries move in different directions like this, 230 00:11:37,742 --> 00:11:43,107 so it's sort of difficult to get an example country 231 00:11:43,131 --> 00:11:45,790 which shows the pattern of the world. 232 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:52,172 But I would like to bring you back to about here, at 1960. 233 00:11:53,083 --> 00:11:56,373 I would like to compare 234 00:11:56,397 --> 00:12:03,087 South Korea, which is this one, with Brazil, which is this one. 235 00:12:04,187 --> 00:12:05,968 The label went away for me here. 236 00:12:05,992 --> 00:12:08,588 And I would like to compare Uganda, which is there. 237 00:12:09,691 --> 00:12:12,730 And I can run it forward, like this. 238 00:12:14,413 --> 00:12:21,380 And you can see how South Korea is making a very, very fast advancement, 239 00:12:21,404 --> 00:12:23,976 whereas Brazil is much slower. 240 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:30,334 And if we move back again, here, and we put on trails on them, like this, 241 00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:33,976 you can see again that the speed of development 242 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,814 is very, very different, 243 00:12:36,838 --> 00:12:43,539 and the countries are moving more or less in the same rate as money and health, 244 00:12:43,563 --> 00:12:45,437 but it seems you can move much faster 245 00:12:45,461 --> 00:12:48,120 if you are healthy first than if you are wealthy first. 246 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,976 And to show that, you can put on the way of United Arab Emirates. 247 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,856 They came from here, a mineral country. 248 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,205 They cached all the oil; they got all the money; 249 00:12:58,229 --> 00:13:00,468 but health cannot be bought at the supermarket. 250 00:13:01,516 --> 00:13:04,612 You have to invest in health. You have to get kids into schooling. 251 00:13:04,636 --> 00:13:07,779 You have to train health staff. You have to educate the population. 252 00:13:07,803 --> 00:13:10,257 And Sheikh Zayed did that in a fairly good way. 253 00:13:10,281 --> 00:13:13,976 In spite of falling oil prices, he brought this country up here. 254 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,976 So we've got a much more mainstream appearance of the world, 255 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,527 where all countries tend to use their money 256 00:13:20,551 --> 00:13:22,662 better than they used in the past. 257 00:13:23,755 --> 00:13:30,727 Now, this is, more or less, if you look at the average data of the countries -- 258 00:13:30,751 --> 00:13:32,399 they are like this. 259 00:13:32,423 --> 00:13:35,765 Now that's dangerous, to use average data, 260 00:13:35,789 --> 00:13:39,560 because there is such a lot of difference within countries. 261 00:13:39,584 --> 00:13:46,003 So if I go and look here, we can see that Uganda today 262 00:13:46,027 --> 00:13:48,976 is where South Korea was in 1960. 263 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,666 If I split Uganda, there's quite a difference within Uganda. 264 00:13:52,690 --> 00:13:54,868 These are the quintiles of Uganda. 265 00:13:54,892 --> 00:13:57,076 The richest 20 percent of Ugandans are there. 266 00:13:57,100 --> 00:13:58,485 The poorest are down there. 267 00:13:58,509 --> 00:14:01,385 If I split South Africa, it's like this. 268 00:14:01,409 --> 00:14:04,152 And if I go down and look at Niger, 269 00:14:04,176 --> 00:14:08,820 where there was such a terrible famine, lastly, it's like this. 270 00:14:08,844 --> 00:14:11,738 The 20 percent poorest of Niger is out here, 271 00:14:11,762 --> 00:14:14,531 and the 20 percent richest of South Africa is there, 272 00:14:14,555 --> 00:14:16,573 and yet we tend to discuss 273 00:14:16,597 --> 00:14:18,976 on what solutions there should be in Africa. 274 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,567 Everything in this world exists in Africa. 275 00:14:21,591 --> 00:14:24,866 And you can't discuss universal access to HIV [medicine] 276 00:14:24,890 --> 00:14:29,262 for that quintile up here with the same strategy as down here. 277 00:14:29,286 --> 00:14:32,824 The improvement of the world must be highly contextualized, 278 00:14:32,848 --> 00:14:36,778 and it's not relevant to have it on regional level. 279 00:14:36,802 --> 00:14:38,332 We must be much more detailed. 280 00:14:39,070 --> 00:14:42,396 We find that students get very excited when they can use this. 281 00:14:42,420 --> 00:14:46,038 And even more, policy makers and the corporate sectors 282 00:14:46,062 --> 00:14:49,723 would like to see how the world is changing. 283 00:14:49,747 --> 00:14:51,435 Now, why doesn't this take place? 284 00:14:51,459 --> 00:14:53,949 Why are we not using the data we have? 285 00:14:53,973 --> 00:14:57,783 We have data in the United Nations, in the national statistical agencies 286 00:14:57,807 --> 00:15:00,976 and in universities and other non-governmental organizations. 287 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,334 Because the data is hidden down in the databases. 288 00:15:03,358 --> 00:15:06,290 And the public is there, and the Internet is there, 289 00:15:06,315 --> 00:15:08,476 but we have still not used it effectively. 290 00:15:08,499 --> 00:15:10,976 All that information we saw changing in the world 291 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,139 does not include publicly-funded statistics. 292 00:15:14,163 --> 00:15:16,317 There are some web pages like this, you know, 293 00:15:16,341 --> 00:15:20,976 but they take some nourishment down from the databases, 294 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,976 but people put prices on them, stupid passwords and boring statistics. 295 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,389 (Laughter) 296 00:15:27,413 --> 00:15:28,588 And this won't work. 297 00:15:28,612 --> 00:15:31,415 (Applause) 298 00:15:31,439 --> 00:15:33,861 So what is needed? We have the databases. 299 00:15:33,885 --> 00:15:35,662 It's not the new database you need. 300 00:15:35,686 --> 00:15:39,412 We have wonderful design tools, and more and more are added up here. 301 00:15:39,436 --> 00:15:42,307 So we started a nonprofit venture 302 00:15:42,331 --> 00:15:46,702 which, linking data to design, we called Gapminder, 303 00:15:46,726 --> 00:15:48,079 from the London Underground, 304 00:15:48,103 --> 00:15:49,880 where they warn you, "mind the gap." 305 00:15:49,904 --> 00:15:51,844 So we thought Gapminder was appropriate. 306 00:15:51,868 --> 00:15:56,224 And we started to write software which could link the data like this. 307 00:15:56,248 --> 00:15:57,795 And it wasn't that difficult. 308 00:15:57,819 --> 00:16:01,370 It took some person years, and we have produced animations. 309 00:16:01,394 --> 00:16:03,727 You can take a data set and put it there. 310 00:16:03,751 --> 00:16:07,976 We are liberating U.N. data, some few U.N. organization. 311 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,500 Some countries accept that their databases can go out on the world, 312 00:16:12,524 --> 00:16:15,595 but what we really need is, of course, a search function. 313 00:16:15,619 --> 00:16:19,976 A search function where we can copy the data up to a searchable format 314 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,732 and get it out in the world. 315 00:16:21,756 --> 00:16:24,127 And what do we hear when we go around? 316 00:16:24,151 --> 00:16:27,158 I've done anthropology on the main statistical units. 317 00:16:27,182 --> 00:16:30,302 Everyone says, "It's impossible. This can't be done. 318 00:16:30,326 --> 00:16:32,836 Our information is so peculiar in detail, 319 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:35,964 so that cannot be searched as others can be searched. 320 00:16:35,988 --> 00:16:38,343 We cannot give the data free to the students, 321 00:16:38,367 --> 00:16:40,272 free to the entrepreneurs of the world." 322 00:16:41,256 --> 00:16:44,151 But this is what we would like to see, isn't it? 323 00:16:44,175 --> 00:16:46,599 The publicly-funded data is down here. 324 00:16:46,623 --> 00:16:49,658 And we would like flowers to grow out on the Net. 325 00:16:49,682 --> 00:16:52,849 And one of the crucial points is to make them searchable, 326 00:16:52,873 --> 00:16:57,117 and then people can use the different design tool to animate it there. 327 00:16:57,141 --> 00:16:59,581 And I have pretty good news for you. 328 00:16:59,605 --> 00:17:01,799 I have good news that the present, 329 00:17:01,823 --> 00:17:04,976 new Head of U.N. Statistics, he doesn't say it's impossible. 330 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,772 He only says, "We can't do it." 331 00:17:07,772 --> 00:17:10,976 (Laughter) 332 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,976 And that's a quite clever guy, huh? 333 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,976 (Laughter) 334 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,976 So we can see a lot happening in data in the coming years. 335 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,660 We will be able to look at income distributions in completely new ways. 336 00:17:23,684 --> 00:17:28,976 This is the income distribution of China, 1970. 337 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,796 This is the income distribution of the United States, 1970. 338 00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:36,869 Almost no overlap. 339 00:17:36,893 --> 00:17:38,343 And what has happened? 340 00:17:38,673 --> 00:17:40,351 What has happened is this: 341 00:17:40,375 --> 00:17:43,347 that China is growing, it's not so equal any longer, 342 00:17:43,371 --> 00:17:46,976 and it's appearing here, overlooking the United States. 343 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,658 Almost like a ghost, isn't it? 344 00:17:49,682 --> 00:17:50,976 (Laughter) 345 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,587 It's pretty scary. 346 00:17:52,611 --> 00:17:54,872 (Laughter) 347 00:17:57,762 --> 00:18:01,572 But I think it's very important to have all this information. 348 00:18:01,596 --> 00:18:04,209 We need really to see it. 349 00:18:04,233 --> 00:18:06,976 And instead of looking at this, 350 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,648 I would like to end up by showing the Internet users per 1,000. 351 00:18:12,672 --> 00:18:15,554 In this software, we access about 500 variables 352 00:18:15,578 --> 00:18:17,979 from all the countries quite easily. 353 00:18:18,003 --> 00:18:20,976 It takes some time to change for this, 354 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,855 but on the axises, you can quite easily get any variable you would like to have. 355 00:18:26,879 --> 00:18:31,386 And the thing would be to get up the databases free, 356 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:33,976 to get them searchable, and with a second click, 357 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,976 to get them into the graphic formats, where you can instantly understand them. 358 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,102 Now, statisticians don't like it, 359 00:18:41,126 --> 00:18:48,094 because they say that this will not show the reality; 360 00:18:48,118 --> 00:18:51,839 we have to have statistical, analytical methods. 361 00:18:51,863 --> 00:18:53,976 But this is hypothesis-generating. 362 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,905 I end now with the world. 363 00:18:57,021 --> 00:18:58,506 There, the Internet is coming. 364 00:18:58,530 --> 00:19:01,013 The number of Internet users are going up like this. 365 00:19:01,037 --> 00:19:03,006 This is the GDP per capita. 366 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:06,515 And it's a new technology coming in, but then amazingly, 367 00:19:06,539 --> 00:19:10,258 how well it fits to the economy of the countries. 368 00:19:10,282 --> 00:19:13,739 That's why the $100 computer will be so important. 369 00:19:13,763 --> 00:19:15,168 But it's a nice tendency. 370 00:19:15,192 --> 00:19:18,096 It's as if the world is flattening off, isn't it? 371 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:20,525 These countries are lifting more than the economy 372 00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:23,334 and will be very interesting to follow this over the year, 373 00:19:23,358 --> 00:19:26,719 as I would like you to be able to do with all the publicly funded data. 374 00:19:26,743 --> 00:19:27,976 Thank you very much. 375 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,000 (Applause)