[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.02,0:00:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joy: Hello everybody and welcome to Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.94,0:00:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Living your Values Series with Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.72,0:00:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren Singer and Rob Greenfield today. Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.21,0:00:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Round of applause for these two, Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.81,0:00:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are really incredible. Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.58,0:00:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Applause] Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.61,0:00:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joy: Lauren is the founder and CEO Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.84,0:00:20.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Package Free, so this Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.26,0:00:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally came from her brain. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.87,0:00:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, guys, for joining us here. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.15,0:00:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are Zero Waste Lifestyle. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.55,0:00:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will help you live your life more \Nsustainably. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.89,0:00:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On that vein, Rob is also leading the \Nway, Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.09,0:00:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing us all how to live more \Nsustainably, Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.20,0:00:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more just, and be better people, in \Ngeneral. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.56,0:00:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are really excited for your \Nconversation. Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.66,0:00:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afterwards, everything is 30% off. Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.30,0:00:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you guys so much for being here. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.13,0:00:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Cool. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.93,0:00:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Thanks Joy. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.94,0:00:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have done a lot of events and talks \Nhere. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.10,0:00:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last one that we did, Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.60,0:00:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did something different. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.17,0:00:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, I was wondering if people would \Nrespond to it Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.65,0:00:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a way that would make them feel\Nuncomfortable, Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.94,0:00:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I later I learned it was actually \Nquite nice. Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.30,0:00:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you will have to bear with me. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.92,0:01:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was in honor of one of our vendors and Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.38,0:01:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of my best friends who passed, Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.05,0:01:06.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a month ago, Vanessa Blake. Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.03,0:01:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her and her two children Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.49,0:01:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were tragically killed in a Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.38,0:01:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,car accident in California. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.01,0:01:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She made a the Becky Boo Deodorant. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.71,0:01:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There might be a few left here. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.23,0:01:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I did was take a moment Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.38,0:01:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of silence, for all of us, to take a \Nsecond Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.99,0:01:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think about someone that we love. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.84,0:01:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you were with your family for\Nthe holidays, Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.06,0:01:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe you thought things that you Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.68,0:01:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not love about your family. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.11,0:01:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes, our family does that to us. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.93,0:01:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, I think it is important, Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.36,0:01:31.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially during the holidays, Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.85,0:01:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the stress of work.... Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.29,0:01:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anyone works in retail or e-commerce, Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.24,0:01:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or anything, you might be really \Noverwhelmed. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.40,0:01:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think that just to take a moment Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.18,0:01:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think about something beautiful Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.32,0:01:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happened today, Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.51,0:01:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and think about someone, Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.78,0:01:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and send love to someone you Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.16,0:01:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not get to see all the time, but Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.85,0:01:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you care about deeply, so Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.10,0:01:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we could just close our eyes Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.59,0:01:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and take a quick second. Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.22,0:02:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Thank you [loud bang] Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.04,0:02:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was perfect timing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.20,0:02:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: So Rob. Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.62,0:02:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: So Lauren. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.38,0:02:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob and I met, how many years ago now? Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.94,0:02:31.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: 3 years and 2 months Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.22,0:02:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: 3 years and 2 months ago. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.86,0:02:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know how you remember that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.60,0:02:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is amazing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.73,0:02:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met you 3 years, 2 months ago, Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.52,0:02:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I knew about you earlier, Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.22,0:02:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because before I even started my first \Ncompany, Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.63,0:02:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Simply Co, I had read an article Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.96,0:02:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about you, that was something along Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.97,0:02:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the lines of 'I did not shower for Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.24,0:02:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a year - these are the lessons I learned', Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.00,0:02:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, after reading about this, Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.05,0:02:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, "Woah, this guy is Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.46,0:03:01.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amazing, and interesting." Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.35,0:03:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you not shower? Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.96,0:03:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started reading, and I learned Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.58,0:03:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you did not not bathe, but you swam Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.46,0:03:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in rivers, and you let the earth Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.66,0:03:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take care of your personal hygiene. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.59,0:03:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually thought it was beautiful Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.27,0:03:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I found myself Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.24,0:03:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being incredibly envious of Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.88,0:03:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this year that you had Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.24,0:03:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to celebrate nature, and how Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.53,0:03:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amazing it can feel by just Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.84,0:03:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connecting with it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.93,0:03:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we connected for the first time... Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.17,0:03:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was the first time in person when you Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.03,0:03:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to my house? Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.07,0:03:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was that it? Had we met before then? Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.68,0:03:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I think it was then, 2016 Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.47,0:03:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: 2016. And, we had the most Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.15,0:03:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amzing time, which we will get into Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.84,0:03:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,later, but, before any of that, Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.30,0:03:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before we get into all the fun we had \Nwhen we connected, Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.90,0:03:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted you to give a brief synopsis Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.18,0:03:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of who you are, your background, Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.28,0:03:57.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what led you to start all of Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.79,0:03:59.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your adventures. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.30,0:04:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Sure. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.21,0:04:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also want to tell about how I \Nlearned about Lauren. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.87,0:04:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was sitting at home Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.40,0:04:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my best friend Dane sent me a Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.12,0:04:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,message and he said... Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.10,0:04:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a Mindbodygreen story Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.97,0:04:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how all your trash at that time Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.88,0:04:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fit into a jar, for maybe two years Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.53,0:04:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(at that time?) - it was a while ago. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.06,0:04:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My friend Dane said, "This girl sounds Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.87,0:04:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot like you." [laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.39,0:04:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was around the same time that I Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.67,0:04:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did the story, Lessons Learned from Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.35,0:04:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Year Without Showering. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.55,0:04:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He sent that over and said, Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.96,0:04:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You two sound exactly alike. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.33,0:04:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is nice to be back. Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.39,0:04:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just finished my year of growing and Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.20,0:04:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foraging all my food and this is my first \Nbeer. Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.08,0:04:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So cheers to being here with all of you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.38,0:04:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone: Cheers! Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.36,0:04:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is from Toast, which is an awesome Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.32,0:04:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company that makes it out Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.57,0:04:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of wasted bread, so cheers. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.70,0:04:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cheers everybody! Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.69,0:05:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I will let you savor that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.57,0:05:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: mmm I forgot how it tasted. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.14,0:05:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Tell us about where you are from. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.16,0:05:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was your childhood like? Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.82,0:05:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I grew up in Northern Wisconsin. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.56,0:05:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in a small town, Ashland. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.73,0:05:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Population: 8,620. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.28,0:05:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My passion as a kid was catching frogs Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.79,0:05:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and turtles, and going out fishing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.51,0:05:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All I wanted to do was be outside. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.43,0:05:32.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when I was not outside, Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.93,0:05:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was reading National Geographic. Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.61,0:05:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was basically yearning to see the world. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.99,0:05:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read books like Dr Seuss. Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.49,0:05:43.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just wanted to go to these far off \Nplaces, like Fiji. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.45,0:05:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always had a deep desire to learn all \Nthe animals. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.25,0:05:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was my childhood. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.04,0:05:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other central theme of my childhood Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.06,0:05:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that we were very low income. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.96,0:06:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was my mom, me, and three siblings Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.87,0:06:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a two-bedroom house where the paint was\Nchipping off. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.01,0:06:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had an old rusty car. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.89,0:06:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, my whole childhood, Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.72,0:06:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was embarrassed about being poor. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.54,0:06:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was living most of my childhood like \Nit was a lie. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.35,0:06:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did not want people to know who I \Nreally was. Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.52,0:06:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that was what led me to the next Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.54,0:06:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years where my goal was to be Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.95,0:06:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a millionaire by the time I was 30. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.62,0:06:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just really wanted to fit in with the Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.54,0:06:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,American dream: to have nice things Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.16,0:06:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to impress people. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.95,0:06:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, not just to impress people, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.56,0:06:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also just to fit in, and also just \Nnot be different. Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.80,0:06:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, I guess, how I would sum up Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.65,0:06:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the beginning of my life. Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.67,0:06:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, in 2011, was when I woke up. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.51,0:06:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that everything I was doing - Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.99,0:06:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the food I was eating, the car the I was\Ndriving, Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.41,0:06:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the garbage that I was making - Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.10,0:06:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was destroying everything I loved as \Na kid. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.73,0:07:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Can you talk about what sparked\Nthat? Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.98,0:07:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your life now, is quite the contrast Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.89,0:07:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from being a millionaire at 30. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.85,0:07:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was the moment? Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.86,0:07:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was there a singular moment or event Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.12,0:07:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or anything that made you change Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.74,0:07:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the trajectory of your life? Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.51,0:07:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Yes, it changed pretty drastically Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.45,0:07:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because my goal was to be a millionaire. Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.41,0:07:21.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now my goal is to never have more Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.03,0:07:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than $15,000 of possessions and \Nmoney, total. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.50,0:07:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now, everything I own is in Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.27,0:07:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a backpack right back there. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.13,0:07:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have about $6000 to my name. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.41,0:07:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is opposite of being a \Nmillionaire, sort of. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.99,0:07:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, the opposite would be being Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.33,0:07:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extremely in debt - I am not in debt. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.98,0:07:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was the question again? Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.70,0:07:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Was there a moment that sparked? Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.94,0:07:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was your lightbulb? Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.84,0:07:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: For me, I started to watch a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.08,0:07:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentaries and read a lot of books. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.98,0:07:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Fooding" was one of the earliest Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.62,0:07:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentaries that I watched. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.07,0:07:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zeitgeist was another early one. Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.83,0:08:03.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read a lot of books; Michael Pollan Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.73,0:08:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was an early wake-up. Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.53,0:08:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Me too. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.26,0:08:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I just realized that my life Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.84,0:08:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a couple of things. Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.72,0:08:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a lie that had been sold to me by Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.36,0:08:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,corporate America, that most of the Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.13,0:08:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things I was doing was because I had Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.29,0:08:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bought their advertizing. Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.24,0:08:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, early on, Old Spice \Ndeodorant.... Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.27,0:08:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized humans have existed for Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.34,0:08:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,millions of years without Old Spice. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.48,0:08:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could I possibly need Old Spice to fit \Ninto society? Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.58,0:08:37.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do I actually need these things? Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.21,0:08:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the chemicals I was putting on my \Nbody and in my food, Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.68,0:08:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the ways I was spewing chemicals Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.51,0:08:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and toxins into the world. Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.38,0:08:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[I was] also realizing that my actions Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.28,0:08:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were not in line with my beliefs. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.86,0:08:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always considered myself Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.58,0:08:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environmentally friendly because \NI recycled; Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.83,0:09:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had energy efficient bulbs; Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.45,0:09:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I turned off the water when I was \Nnot using it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.76,0:09:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mom had taught me the basic things. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.19,0:09:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always considered myself \Nenvironmentally friendly, Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.08,0:09:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then I realized that actually 99% Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.55,0:09:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what I was doing was \Nenvironmentally destructive. Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.16,0:09:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost nothing I was doing, \Nnothing at all, Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.60,0:09:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was really environmentally friendly Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.29,0:09:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I just bought into \NAmerican consumerism. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.21,0:09:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: What were the first steps you Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.08,0:09:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started to take when you realized that Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.20,0:09:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your values were not in alignment with Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.40,0:09:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your day to day actions? Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.96,0:09:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I just realized that we are talking Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.26,0:09:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly about the title of this talk. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.93,0:09:40.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Laughter.] Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.19,0:09:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I am happy we got there. Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.34,0:09:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What were the first things that you did, Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.31,0:09:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think for a lot of people, Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.09,0:09:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they realize, maybe I am not living Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.03,0:09:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aligned with my values, but what can \NI do? Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.47,0:09:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am just one person. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.52,0:09:53.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think what you really embody Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.99,0:09:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is doing something and 'really' doing \Nsomething. Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.23,0:09:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What were the first steps you took Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.02,0:10:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start to align with what you cared \Nabout? Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.76,0:10:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: My thing was that I wanted to Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.50,0:10:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drastically and radically transform Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.71,0:10:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my life fairly quickly, but I also knew Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.79,0:10:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not do it overnight. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.45,0:10:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am generally pretty logical and \Nrational, Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.16,0:10:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was deep in the system. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.37,0:10:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had 7 credit cards. Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.98,0:10:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a card that had 30 or so different \Nbills. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.65,0:10:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had debt. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.44,0:10:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a 3-bedroom apartment that I rented. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.50,0:10:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in the system. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.32,0:10:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not as much as others - Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.43,0:10:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did not have a mortgage, for example. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.72,0:10:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to radically transform my life, Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.97,0:10:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I knew that it would take some time. Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.52,0:10:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I did was made a list of a hundred Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.47,0:10:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways I wanted to change. Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.26,0:10:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My goal was that I was going to check off Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.28,0:10:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one positive thing per week, or better. Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.69,0:10:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as the first things, I have a \Nvisual, Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.81,0:10:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember taking everything toxic Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.46,0:10:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of my bathroom and putting Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.22,0:11:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it on the curb, and then saying.... Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.90,0:11:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the Story of Stuff, Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.64,0:11:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of my earliest wake-ups. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.65,0:11:06.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is also the Story of Cosmetics Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.78,0:11:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in another video they put out. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.38,0:11:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember just putting all that out \Non the curb, Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.89,0:11:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and saying, I am either going to 'not' Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.87,0:11:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,replace them because maybe I do not Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.61,0:11:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need them at all, or if I am going to Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.44,0:11:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring something into my house, Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.89,0:11:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is going to be something Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.19,0:11:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes sense to put on my body. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.18,0:11:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a really early one. Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.49,0:11:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was also dating someone who was Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.34,0:11:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practicing traditional Chinese medicine, Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.28,0:11:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accupuncture, massage therapy and Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.32,0:11:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,herbalism, at the time, so that was Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.70,0:11:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another reason that I started there. Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.10,0:11:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then food. At the time, I went to Walmart Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.19,0:11:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all of my food. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.39,0:11:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They always ship around the country,\Naround the world. Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.41,0:11:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is all in plastic, and then in two \Nplastic bags. Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.36,0:11:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I quickly stopped going to Walmart. Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.94,0:11:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I went to Trader Joe's, Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.68,0:11:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that is a scam, Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.48,0:11:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as far as thinking it is environmentally \Nfriendly. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.81,0:12:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then transitioning to eating more Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.16,0:12:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at local farmer's market. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.97,0:12:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another one was riding my bike a lot more. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.87,0:12:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a beach cruiser at the time. Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.57,0:12:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I decided I was going to get a bike Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.14,0:12:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I could get some distance on. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.45,0:12:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Where were you living at the \Ntime? Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.48,0:12:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: That was San Diego. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.18,0:12:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I stopped driving my car as much. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.50,0:12:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, slowly but surely got rid of my \Ngarbage can. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.54,0:12:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a big goal of mine, Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.99,0:12:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to not have garbage cans in the house. Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.86,0:12:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Yes! Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.67,0:12:30.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which, back then seemed radical, Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.63,0:12:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but over time, it is just normal. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.87,0:12:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Let me talk about that a little \Nbit. Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.05,0:12:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word radical. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.53,0:12:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there are not many people Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.85,0:12:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who would disagree that the things Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.53,0:12:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do a quite radical, quite extremist. Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.10,0:12:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have gotten that myself about going\Nzero waste. Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.73,0:12:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go all the way, you never half-do\Nanything. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.87,0:12:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do have a reason for why you tackle these Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.56,0:12:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projects or these goals in the way that\Nyou do? Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.16,0:12:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you speak to some of the projects Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.94,0:12:59.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you have done in the past, Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.42,0:13:01.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from not showering to what you have just Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.69,0:13:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,embarked on, have just completed. Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.46,0:13:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I do radical things for a few\Nreasons. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.83,0:13:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1. because I have always been a radical\Nhuman being. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.40,0:13:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is just the reality. Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.54,0:13:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is deep inside my bones. Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.78,0:13:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before, I was radically stupid. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.16,0:13:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I liked to do stupid things that Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.07,0:13:21.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would get people's attention. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.97,0:13:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In college, running into a fence as hard Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.15,0:13:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I could and seeing if I could \Nbreak it. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.28,0:13:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, really stupid things \Nwhen I was drinking. Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.19,0:13:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have always liked to test the limits. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.63,0:13:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I choose to test purposeful limits. Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.18,0:13:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is the reality that I just like Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.07,0:13:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do extreme things and to test things. Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.70,0:13:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other thing is that I realized at that\Ntime, Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.96,0:13:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only did I want to change my life, Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.79,0:13:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I wanted to give people the Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.65,0:13:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opportunity to change their life. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.23,0:14:00.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was always decent about not wanting to Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.45,0:14:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell anybody what to do, Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.49,0:14:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but just to give an alternative. Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.34,0:14:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a half hour news segment, Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.17,0:14:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are 18 short segments, Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.10,0:14:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 15 of them are negative, Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.31,0:14:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and only 3 are positive. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.79,0:14:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Between that are commercials telling you Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.33,0:14:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you want to be happy or healthy, Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.47,0:14:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to buy things. Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.85,0:14:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just wanted to put out another \Nnarrative Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.02,0:14:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give people another option. Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.60,0:14:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was that. I wanted to show people \Nanother way. Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.100,0:14:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, I had to compete Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.05,0:14:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with mainstream media. Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.23,0:14:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to do things that would actually Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.00,0:14:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get my message out there. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.03,0:14:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I just did a little bit. Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.62,0:14:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I did things in a really moderate way, Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.90,0:14:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like starting to shop at the farmer's\Nmarket. Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.18,0:14:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I shower once a week. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.66,0:14:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Yeah, that would not be on ... Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.54,0:14:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob and Lauren: mainstream media Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.85,0:14:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: So that was the strategic aspect \Nof it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.23,0:14:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other big part of it was.... Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.73,0:15:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have been called, like you said, Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.92,0:15:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extreme, and people generally Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.05,0:15:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consider me extreme. Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.69,0:15:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I consider myself extreme, but the \Nreality is, Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.85,0:15:10.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am actually not extreme. Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.19,0:15:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only reason that I am extreme Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.02,0:15:15.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because I am being compared to what is Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.25,0:15:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already an extreme society. Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.45,0:15:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The United States has 5% of the world's\Npopulation, Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.28,0:15:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but uses 25% of the world's resources. Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.64,0:15:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That by definition, is extreme. Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.29,0:15:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not even close to the whole world could \Ndo that. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.11,0:15:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I am, is I am the counter balance to Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.04,0:15:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extreme western consumerism. Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.56,0:15:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I only have to go to these extremes Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.44,0:15:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the extreme is already there. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.24,0:15:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Can you speak to some of the Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.51,0:15:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headlines that you created, some of the Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.26,0:15:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things you have taken on. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.59,0:15:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We spoke about the 'I have not showered \Nin a year - Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.22,0:15:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are the lessons I learned.' Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.83,0:15:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talk about some of the lessons you \Nlearned, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.30,0:16:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Trash Me, growing all your own\Nfood. Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.27,0:16:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am really curious becuase we have not Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.20,0:16:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caught up in a while, so this is more Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.04,0:16:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or me than it is for all of you. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.95,0:16:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Well, my first project was to bike Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.92,0:16:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accross the United States, and try to Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.07,0:16:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have no negative environmental \Nimpact. Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.12,0:16:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That meant setting basic ground Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.88,0:16:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rules for all the key aspects of Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.33,0:16:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sustainable living, the things that we Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.22,0:16:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deal with every single day. Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.87,0:16:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I consider those to be food, water, Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.66,0:16:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,energy, waste, and transportion. Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.30,0:16:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are things that every single one\Nof us Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.39,0:16:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deals with every single day Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.92,0:16:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether we realize it or not. Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.40,0:16:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, for waste, every piece \Nof garbage Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.64,0:16:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I created, I had to carry across Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.51,0:16:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the United States with me. Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.18,0:16:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I had a candy bar in San Francisco, Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.68,0:16:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I had to bike with that plastic Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.21,0:16:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the way to Vermont. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.02,0:16:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On that trip, I made just 2 pounds Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.14,0:16:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of trash in 104 days, which is what Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.54,0:16:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the average person in the United States Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.41,0:16:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes by about 1 or 2 in the afternoon Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.72,0:16:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on any given day. Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.85,0:16:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On that trip, I was doing extreme things Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.37,0:17:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about food, water, energy, waste,\Ntransportation. Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.68,0:17:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was my first project. Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.30,0:17:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other one was Trash Me, Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.25,0:17:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was right here in New York City. Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.18,0:17:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a month of living like the \Naverage American. Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.32,0:17:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Putting all ethics and morals aside \Nfor the month, Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.54,0:17:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eating, consuming like the average \Nperson. Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.21,0:17:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I had to wear every piece of trash\Nthat I created. Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.36,0:17:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Did everybody see that? Yeah? Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.13,0:17:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had it here for a little while. Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.49,0:17:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was awesome! Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.04,0:17:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Good Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.22,0:17:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: How did you feel after that? Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.96,0:17:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was the lesson that you learned? Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.73,0:17:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: It is interesting, in a way I felt \Nbetter. Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.38,0:17:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to say, it was the most enjoyable Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.71,0:17:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,month in my entire life. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.03,0:17:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not because I was consuming, Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.64,0:17:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but just because it worked so well. Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.31,0:17:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everywhere I went for the whole month Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.06,0:17:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in New York city, I was being chased Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.80,0:17:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down the streets by people saying, Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.48,0:18:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It is the trash man!" People were \Nexcited. Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.35,0:18:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What fulfils me, is seeing people's Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.62,0:18:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wheels turning inside their head. Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.10,0:18:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People would walk up to me. Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.84,0:18:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the opposite of all of your trash Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.77,0:18:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fitting into your jar. Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.95,0:18:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always try to find visual ways to help Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.41,0:18:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people understand important issues. Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.61,0:18:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea was that I wanted people Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.82,0:18:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look at me, and see themselves, Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.30,0:18:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without me having to tell them \Nanything. Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.14,0:18:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without me having to tell anyone Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.84,0:18:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are doing anything wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.64,0:18:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I do not necessarily believe Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.43,0:18:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in wrong or right anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.06,0:18:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... not have to tell anybody anything. Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.46,0:18:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would happen, is people would Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.45,0:18:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walk up to me in the street. Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.91,0:18:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would say, "What are you doing?" Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.00,0:18:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say, "I am just living Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.52,0:18:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the average American for a month, Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.36,0:18:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I am wearing all my trash." Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.89,0:18:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would just look at me. Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.72,0:18:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes they would actually say, Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.38,0:18:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, that is me." Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.58,0:18:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes you would see them \Nrealize it. Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.78,0:18:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other times they would actually say it. Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.79,0:19:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to do things in a way that are Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.25,0:19:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in people's faces, without "being \Nin their face". Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.49,0:19:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I think it was a really amazing Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.40,0:19:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,project for me, because my whole life is Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.34,0:19:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,focused around talking about trash Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.29,0:19:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how not to make so much trash. Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.06,0:19:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually feeling the weight of your Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.84,0:19:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completed suit was unbelievable. Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.63,0:19:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This suit was really heavy; we needed Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.97,0:19:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three people to carry it up the stairs. Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.80,0:19:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The day we installed it, I think I fell \N4 times. Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.74,0:19:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was unbelievable. Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.60,0:19:37.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You truly do not realize the sheer volume Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.13,0:19:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the sh*t that people create every \Nsingle day. Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.12,0:19:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it was a really important \Nproject for me. Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.62,0:19:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am sure it was for so many other people. Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.75,0:19:50.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next project after that was what? Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.17,0:19:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Another project that I just finished Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.78,0:19:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a year of growing and foraging all \Nmy food. Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.03,0:20:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For one year, no grocery stores, no \Nrestaurants, Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.37,0:20:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no drink at a bar, nothing packaged, Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.60,0:20:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing processed, nothing shipped\Nlong distances, Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.35,0:20:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no beer, no even going to the package-free Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.24,0:20:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shop to get my food, or even the farmer's \Nmarket. Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.95,0:20:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything I ate for the year was either Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.49,0:20:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from my gardens, or that I went out and Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.48,0:20:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foraged, whether it was out in the Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.83,0:20:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,countryside, or right in the cities that \NI was in. Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.28,0:20:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Where was this taking place? Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.01,0:20:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: That was in Orlando Florida. Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.62,0:20:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is where I have lived for the last 2 \Nyears. Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.93,0:20:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: How was that, Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.05,0:20:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foraging for food in Orlando Florida? Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.86,0:20:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I think of Orlando, Florida, Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.53,0:20:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think of Disneyworld. Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.89,0:20:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of Universal Studios, Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.27,0:20:40.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe cotton candy, Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.07,0:20:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I definitely do not think of Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.99,0:20:44.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sustenance for a year and half of life. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.100,0:20:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what were the types of things Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.55,0:20:48.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you found there? Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.63,0:20:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Generally, we think of what we know. Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.71,0:20:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we are not thinking of what might Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.52,0:21:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be edible around us, then we will walk Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.49,0:21:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,past those things our entire life without Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.53,0:21:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever thinking about it. Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.17,0:21:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The amazing thing is, Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.65,0:21:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food is growing everywhere, Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.72,0:21:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even in New York city. Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.51,0:21:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was here 3 years ago. I was in a park. Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.40,0:21:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw this guy, just picking things Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.13,0:21:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of a tree and eating them. Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.64,0:21:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said "What are you doing?" Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.97,0:21:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "These are cherries and \Nmulberries." Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.20,0:21:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the time, I did not know what they \Nwere. Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.26,0:21:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Surinam cherries? Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.47,0:21:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are my favorite things in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.47,0:21:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Oh really? These were just little Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.69,0:21:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pin cherries, or black cherries. Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.64,0:21:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is food growing all over New York \NCity. Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.74,0:21:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is basically growing everywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.50,0:21:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what I did in Orlando was I Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.38,0:21:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turned front yards into gardens. Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.97,0:21:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I landed in Orlando, I had no land. Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.17,0:21:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did not have a place to stay yet. Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.98,0:21:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found someone, and they let me Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.41,0:21:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stay in their guest bedroom. Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.80,0:21:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I turned their front yard into a garden. Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.72,0:21:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I turned 6 yards into gardens Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.38,0:21:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while I was there. Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.63,0:21:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is where I got all my food that \NI grew. Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.30,0:22:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just front yards that you could walk by. Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.66,0:22:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody could pick from them. Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.97,0:22:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no fence or anything. Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.76,0:22:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Who were the types of people Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.51,0:22:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that opened up their homes, their \Nproperty, Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.62,0:22:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their possessions to you, so you could \Nsubsist? Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.06,0:22:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Mostly people who watched me \Non YouTube. Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.33,0:22:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Wow, and how did you find them? Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.51,0:22:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you do a call for them Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.82,0:22:20.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before you started off on this journey? Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.41,0:22:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Community is so important, right? Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.82,0:22:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for you, it is a major part of how \Nyou live. Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.90,0:22:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how are you finding and connecting Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.13,0:22:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these amazing people? Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.47,0:22:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: That was partially a joke, because Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.81,0:22:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of the people I ended up doing Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.91,0:22:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things with had never heard of me. Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.41,0:22:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am just some crazy guy who wants Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.66,0:22:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build a garden. Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.20,0:22:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes, they would think Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.26,0:22:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That sounds good, but you are barefoot.." Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.81,0:22:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and "I am not sure about this guy." Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.29,0:22:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not usually wearing a shirt. Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.99,0:22:53.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am wearing short shorts around. Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.66,0:22:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are thinking, "I am not sure about \Nthis guy." Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.12,0:22:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Did some people like it? Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.65,0:22:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Some people do, enough people do. Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.49,0:23:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are 7 billion people, Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.82,0:23:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you do not need to please everyone Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.59,0:23:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have plenty of people on your side. Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.50,0:23:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of it was through, Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.49,0:23:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these days I think the word is \NSocial Capital. Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.58,0:23:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people base their life around having Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.26,0:23:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough money to get everything they need. Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.19,0:23:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is what I used to do. Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.51,0:23:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to design my life around having Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.34,0:23:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough money so that I would be able Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.12,0:23:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to buy whatever experience Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.31,0:23:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or product, or even sometimes Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.60,0:23:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friendship that I might have wanted Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.27,0:23:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through my material possessions and the Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.55,0:23:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experiences I could give or share with\Nthem. Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.84,0:23:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, instead of it being through money, Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.32,0:23:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I look at it through the reality that Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.54,0:23:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we live in a time where together we can Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.16,0:23:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pretty much meet all of each other's Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.91,0:23:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs outside of the globalized, Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.48,0:23:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industrialized systems. Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.42,0:23:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We live in a very privileged time Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.08,0:23:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where just with this group together, Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.05,0:23:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we just came up with all of our \Nskills, Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.10,0:24:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could pretty much work together Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.57,0:24:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to accomplish most of what we need to. Dialogue: 0,0:24:02.96,0:24:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I look at that. Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.36,0:24:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to bring that together. Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.44,0:24:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is always about Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.60,0:24:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you want in life that you do \Nnot have? Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.82,0:24:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do I want in life that I do not \Nhave? Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.96,0:24:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some people, that is a blank lawn \Nwith grass. Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.96,0:24:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they want food. Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.47,0:24:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not have a lawn, but I know how to \Ngrow food. Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.99,0:24:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can combine our resources Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.81,0:24:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create what we both want. Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.12,0:24:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: That is so beautiful. Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.47,0:24:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where does your tiny house come in? Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.61,0:24:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was that before growing your own food? Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.13,0:24:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: When I lived in San Diego, Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.64,0:24:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived in a 50 foot/square tiny house. Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.50,0:24:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: that you built yourself? Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.07,0:24:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: That was the one I bought on \NCraigslist for $950. Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.01,0:24:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I call it a tiny house, Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.85,0:24:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was basically a glorified dog \Nhouse, Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.52,0:24:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a kid's playpen on wheels. Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.28,0:24:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was basically a box, but it was Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.34,0:24:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,designed to look really nice. Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.41,0:25:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not a cardboard box, a wood box, Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.32,0:25:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had nice lines that made it Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.55,0:25:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look like a little cabin. Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.86,0:25:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I bought that for $950 and lived off grid \Nin San Diego. Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.32,0:25:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was 2015-2016. Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.03,0:25:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I lived in Orlando, I built Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.73,0:25:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a tiny house out of 99% second-hand Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.21,0:25:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,materials for about $1300 Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.18,0:25:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Where did you find Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.56,0:25:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything for that house? Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.91,0:25:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: It was mostly left-over materials Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.06,0:25:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from construction projects, Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.51,0:25:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the two-by-fours, the plywood and all \Nthat. Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.28,0:25:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: How did you know how to \Nbuild a house? Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.61,0:25:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I did not. Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.47,0:25:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met a guy who knows how to build a \Nhouse. Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.32,0:25:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: How did you meet said guy? Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.32,0:25:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: He was the husband of someone Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.78,0:25:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been doing photography for Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.34,0:25:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me for the past few years who liked my Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.05,0:25:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work and had been following me. Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.15,0:25:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somehow she wrapped him into building Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.12,0:25:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my house for me. \NLauren: That is amazing! Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.21,0:25:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was him.... without him it would \Nnot have worked. Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.94,0:25:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was a carpenter. Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.14,0:26:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But 40 different people came together Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.68,0:26:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and built the house. Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.84,0:26:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am saying 'house' but it looks like a \Nshed. Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.54,0:26:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10ft by 10ft, very simple. Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.52,0:26:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am very much a person who Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.04,0:26:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not practice altruism in any way. Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.40,0:26:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people look at what I am doing Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.13,0:26:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and might think of it as altruistic. Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.09,0:26:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is not that, it is 'how can we meet Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.07,0:26:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each other's needs'. Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.26,0:26:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These 40 people who came out Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.65,0:26:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to volunteer to build my tiny house, Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.38,0:26:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,none of them were there, Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.09,0:26:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the most part, because they thought, Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.14,0:26:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let us help Rob out." Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.87,0:26:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were there because they were Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.67,0:26:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested in tiny houses. Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.98,0:26:39.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was an opportunity to learn about \Ntiny houses. Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.41,0:26:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They wanted to meet like-minded people. Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.04,0:26:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They wanted to make some friends, Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.06,0:26:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just have a new experience. Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.03,0:26:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By making building my house a community\Nevent, Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.29,0:26:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone who came out got to benefit \Nfrom that. Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.02,0:27:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.72,0:27:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to benefit cause they helped Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.50,0:27:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me put together my house. Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.79,0:27:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also just want to say I did a lot of it. Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.04,0:27:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not like people just came up and \Nbuilt my house. Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.67,0:27:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: as you drank a beer and watched. Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.63,0:27:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I slaved away. Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.56,0:27:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took 250 hours to build. Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.68,0:27:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a lot of work. Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.20,0:27:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: You were not always living there\Nalone. Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.71,0:27:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Last time you and I met, Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.18,0:27:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was living with my partner Sheryl at \Nthe time. Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.54,0:27:26.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were building that tiny house \Ntogether. Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.47,0:27:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it took me too long, so she left. Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.15,0:27:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laughter Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.17,0:27:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It did take me too long. Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.71,0:27:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is not why she left. Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.32,0:27:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It worked out great because Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.05,0:27:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had we finished the tiny house .... Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.33,0:27:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were together for 4 years. Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.81,0:27:49.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We spent a beautiful 4 years together. Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.81,0:27:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was actually 8, because we were Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.64,0:27:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved for 4 years before that 4 years Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.09,0:27:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we were actually in a partnership. Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.20,0:28:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We always had the belief that if Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.96,0:28:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our relationship does not serve Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.46,0:28:09.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the individual to their best interests, Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.96,0:28:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the partnership to the best interest, Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.18,0:28:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there is absolutely nothing wrong Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.11,0:28:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with letting those paths go in two \Ndifferent directions. Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.63,0:28:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were at a point where there were Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.11,0:28:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that she wanted in life Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.40,0:28:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were different than me. Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.74,0:28:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And [some] that I wanted in life Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.34,0:28:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were different than her. Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.75,0:28:29.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We decided that we were not going to be Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.85,0:28:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together anymore in a partnership. Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.05,0:28:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But she is still, I guess my best friend Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.32,0:28:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the world, maybe top 3 best friends. Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.60,0:28:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Timing-wise it worked out great though, Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.45,0:28:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because had we built the house, Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.22,0:28:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we would have been in a tricky \Nsituation, Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.64,0:28:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we would have had that tiny \Nhouse together. Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.12,0:28:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She basically left 3 weeks Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.11,0:28:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before I started building it. Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.93,0:28:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Can you talk about what it was Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.86,0:29:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like being in a relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.14,0:29:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Going through all of the different Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.38,0:29:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journeys that you went through. Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.92,0:29:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I know for myself, Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.43,0:29:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been living a zero-waste lifestyle \Nfor 8 years. Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.38,0:29:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been so lucky to have incredible Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.34,0:29:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,partners that, throughout the journey, Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.32,0:29:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have supported me in very different\Nand important ways. Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.23,0:29:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From being counterparts to what I was \Ndoing, Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.08,0:29:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to being people that were absorbing what Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.88,0:29:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was doing and incorporating it into \Ntheir own lives. Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.51,0:29:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a beautiful dance when you Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.31,0:29:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are in a partnership. Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.32,0:29:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people have come to me. Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.26,0:29:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe they have come to you, saying, Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.98,0:29:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I am in this partnership. Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.25,0:29:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have these values. Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.25,0:29:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My partner does not share those values." Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.43,0:29:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have instances where you Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.17,0:29:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experienced that in your partnership? Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.94,0:29:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What advice would you give to someone Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.78,0:29:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who, for instance, wants to reduce their Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.73,0:29:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,waste, or wants to grow their own food, Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.64,0:29:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but maybe their partner, family or their Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.60,0:29:49.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friends, do not align with it? Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.15,0:29:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Well, a couple of things. Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.54,0:29:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say that one thing people Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.48,0:29:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are very afraid to do is leave behind Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.88,0:29:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationships that are not right. Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.96,0:30:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, my dad, unfortunately was not Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.60,0:30:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a good person to have in my life for a \Nwhile. Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.61,0:30:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was extremely negative and paranoid \Nabout things. Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.20,0:30:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was as unsupportive as it could get. Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.91,0:30:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Always telling me not to do almost Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.80,0:30:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything that I was trying to do. Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.50,0:30:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After years of trying, I eventually said \Nto him, Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.90,0:30:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-after many pleadings of "Let us make Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.83,0:30:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things work",- eventually, I said, Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.54,0:30:32.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"OK then, we can not be friends anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.01,0:30:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can not hang out anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.87,0:30:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For two years, he was not a part of my \Nlife. Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.18,0:30:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to block his number because Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.72,0:30:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a toxic relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.58,0:30:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, after two years, Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.38,0:30:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not remember how it happened. Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.92,0:30:52.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started to talk to him again. Dialogue: 0,0:30:52.87,0:30:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it worked out. Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.20,0:30:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a much better relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.52,0:31:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, that is a complicated thing, Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.50,0:31:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but one of the main things is, Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.73,0:31:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if a relationship is not providing Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.54,0:31:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true value for two people, Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.46,0:31:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I think that we need to Dialogue: 0,0:31:08.88,0:31:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be able to walk away from that. Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.97,0:31:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially if it is a really toxic Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.70,0:31:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationship, or an abusive relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.69,0:31:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something like that. Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.81,0:31:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, in scenarios where it is not that. Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.20,0:31:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is just a matter of friendship. Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.91,0:31:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the easiest things is Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.81,0:31:25.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just accepting them for who they are. Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.05,0:31:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ideally, they can accept you for who you\Nare as well, Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.72,0:31:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but acceptance starts with ourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.92,0:31:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can not control anyone else. Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.69,0:31:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the past, I focused on people around\Nme. Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.87,0:31:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like Sheryl's mom; When I was around\NSheryl's family, Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.07,0:31:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember being uneasy, because I Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.67,0:31:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted them to do zero-waste type things. Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.73,0:31:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even around my aunt Louise, I remember, Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.68,0:31:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would go grocery shopping together. Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.84,0:31:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She would use double plastic bags. Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.08,0:31:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are watching, Louise, hello, I love\Nyou. Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.87,0:32:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Me too. Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.31,0:32:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: There was a toxicity in my \Nrelationships Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.18,0:32:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there was an uneasiness. Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.92,0:32:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They might be nervous around me, Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.64,0:32:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wondering if I was going to berate them\Na little bit. Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.48,0:32:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or I would be uneasy because I wanted Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.17,0:32:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say something, but was holding back. Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.08,0:32:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a time, maybe 3 years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.00,0:32:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just said, 'Look, there are 7 billion \Npeople on Earth. Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.17,0:32:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It does not matter to me if my mom, Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.33,0:32:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or my sister, or my friends change, Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.08,0:32:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there are literally tens of \Nmillions Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.97,0:32:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people right now, who want to change. Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.32,0:32:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This room is an example of that. Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.96,0:32:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that Package-Free is so \Nsuccessful Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.04,0:32:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is an example of that. Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.32,0:32:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are millions of people around Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.01,0:32:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world who want to change. Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.47,0:32:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what I decided to do, is put my energy Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.49,0:32:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into people who are right there, Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.05,0:32:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who want the help. Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.69,0:32:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not put 10 times more energy into people Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.38,0:32:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who do not want your energy. Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.09,0:32:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The amazing thing that happens is Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.98,0:32:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when you put your energy into people Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.95,0:33:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who do not really want it, you are sapped, Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.98,0:33:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you lose energy. Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.76,0:33:04.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you put energy into people who want\Nit, Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.95,0:33:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it actually increases your energy. Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.47,0:33:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So by giving up the desire to affect any Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.74,0:33:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one individual person, that is what allows Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.19,0:33:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me to walk around completely carefree. Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.27,0:33:16.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It does not matter what any individual \Ndoes, Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.85,0:33:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as long as overall, my actions are helping Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.65,0:33:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,move people into the direction. Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.62,0:33:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: That is so inspiring. Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.76,0:33:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of my favorite quotes ever is Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.50,0:33:30.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"When you are no longer able to change\Na situation, Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.100,0:33:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your challenge is to change yourself." Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.86,0:33:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you embody that. Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.11,0:33:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of trying to change a whole \Nsystem, Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.54,0:33:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have embodied the values that you\Nbelieve in. Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.92,0:33:41.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As such, you have influenced and inspired Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.96,0:33:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many people to take on the challenge Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.44,0:33:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of thinking about other ways they can \Nlive. Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.63,0:33:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you have inspired so many people. Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.72,0:33:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am definitely one of them. Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.20,0:33:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we met - I want to talk about Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.89,0:33:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we did when we were together for the Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.01,0:33:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first time, because it was so amazing for\Nme. Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.57,0:34:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up with a single mother. Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.12,0:34:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was raising me, and a child with\Nspecial needs. Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.62,0:34:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a really hard time for her. Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.66,0:34:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did a lot of things. Dialogue: 0,0:34:11.02,0:34:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Furniture, she would find in the trash. Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.76,0:34:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You introduced me to the concept of \Ndumpster diving. Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.48,0:34:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first time that we ever did it was\Nelectrifying. Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.45,0:34:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As someone like you, who loves thrills, Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.27,0:34:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loves excitement, loves the rebellious\Nthings, Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.90,0:34:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dumpster diving was the coolest shit ever. Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.26,0:34:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You felt like you were doing something Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.66,0:34:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so dangerous, risky and illegal, Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.36,0:34:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually, well it is kind of illegal, Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.91,0:34:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you are actually just picking through Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.14,0:34:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trash to find food that is perfectly \Nedible. Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.18,0:34:49.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you talk about the night that we went Dialogue: 0,0:34:49.71,0:34:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Sure\NLauren: and your experiences? Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.55,0:34:53.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: For me that was earth shattering. Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.57,0:34:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For you that was just a typical dive. Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.19,0:34:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you talk about what it was like? Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.91,0:35:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Yeah, we were walking back to your\Nplace. Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.06,0:35:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We walked past a bagel shop. Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.50,0:35:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sheryl was there. Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.50,0:35:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Let us look inside these garbage\Nbags. Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.78,0:35:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am sure there are a bunch of bagels \Nthere." Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.94,0:35:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I said, "Holy shit, we are\Nbreaking the law." Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.62,0:35:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I remember you were pretty nervous. Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.58,0:35:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laughter Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.31,0:35:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: You were not sure you wanted \Nto do it. Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.37,0:35:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there is also the social stigma. Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.28,0:35:17.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went through the same thing. Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.77,0:35:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, you are running a business. Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.14,0:35:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to be known as a dumpster\Ndiver, or.... Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.98,0:35:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: the trash prom queen Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.15,0:35:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Dumpster diving is the cool term. Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.32,0:35:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to be known as someone who Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.26,0:35:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eats garbage, eats out of the trash? Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.66,0:35:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I feel like I am the wrong person Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.63,0:35:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ask that question to. Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.88,0:35:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Because you do not mind?\NLauren: No. Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.80,0:35:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Good. Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.95,0:35:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started dumpster diving in 2013. Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.10,0:35:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did it because I was biking across Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.23,0:35:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the country that first time. Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.84,0:35:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The rule was that I could only eat local \Nand organic. Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.46,0:35:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first time I ever dove into a \Ndumpster, Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.56,0:35:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was me and my friend biking across the\Ncountry. Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.32,0:35:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We went around back. Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.28,0:35:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We looked in the dumpster. Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.58,0:35:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sure enough, it was full of food. Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.78,0:36:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first thing I ate was a half gallon \Nof ice cream. Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.18,0:36:05.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was still frozen,\NLauren: What? Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.91,0:36:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: just melted a little bit around the \Nedges. Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.34,0:36:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did not have a spoon with me that day, Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.88,0:36:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I used my sunglasses. Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.40,0:36:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I ate about 1/2 the box, 3/4 of the box Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.50,0:36:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right there on the spot. Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.14,0:36:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, that was a big moment. Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.06,0:36:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw how much food was going Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.98,0:36:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to waste, perfectly good food. Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.25,0:36:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since then, that was 2013, Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.36,0:36:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has definitely been an essential part Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.39,0:36:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my life, eating food that would Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.74,0:36:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise go to waste. Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.24,0:36:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the name of the (inaudible) Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.98,0:36:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trash art walker? Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.86,0:36:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She has an Instagram account here. \NLauren: right Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.43,0:36:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I saw her getting tons of fresh Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.28,0:36:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sushi from a sushi place. Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.58,0:36:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They put it out. Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.84,0:36:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10 minutes later you go get it. Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.70,0:36:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is still perfectly good. Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.13,0:36:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I am definitely going to get some Dialogue: 0,0:36:55.96,0:36:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sushi while I am here. Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.50,0:36:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laughter Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.26,0:37:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Let me know how it goes. Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.81,0:37:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: You will have to come. Dialogue: 0,0:37:03.43,0:37:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Obviously. Great. Yes. Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.60,0:37:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let us do that. Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.98,0:37:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are some other interesting things Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.84,0:37:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you have found? Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.89,0:37:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have seen people find.. Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.09,0:37:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are people that would go to CVS Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.87,0:37:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right Aid find perfectly good makeup. Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.64,0:37:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thousands of dollars worth of stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:37:19.39,0:37:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are some of the treasures that you\Nhave found? Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.79,0:37:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: You just find everything. Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.42,0:37:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, biking accross the country, Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.38,0:37:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best thing you can possibly find is Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.29,0:37:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a case of organic peanut butter. Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.68,0:37:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a cyclist, that is one of the greatest \Nfoods. Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.75,0:37:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you find organic wheat bread Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.61,0:37:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and peanut butter, that is perfect. Dialogue: 0,0:37:40.02,0:37:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another great thing I found is Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.83,0:37:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fresh pressed juice on ice in the \Ndumpster. Dialogue: 0,0:37:45.17,0:37:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They threw away ice. Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.23,0:37:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they threw away juice. Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.28,0:37:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just happened to land right on top of Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.26,0:37:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ice, so it was still ice cold. Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.52,0:37:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have dived into about 2000 dumpsters. Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.23,0:38:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is nothing shocking as far as what \Nit is, individually. Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.100,0:38:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is shocking is that it is consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.45,0:38:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have done it in 30 states. Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.85,0:38:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everywhere you go- rural, big cities - Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.75,0:38:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are throwing away insane amounts Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.76,0:38:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of perfectly good food. Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.06,0:38:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Does anyone here want to go\Ndumpster diving? Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.02,0:38:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, okay! Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.74,0:38:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have any top tips for what to Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.26,0:38:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look for whilst dumpster diving? Dialogue: 0,0:38:24.60,0:38:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: New York City is a bit of a different\Nplace. Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.46,0:38:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are actually in a great place for \Ndumpster diving. Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.12,0:38:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you said, it is illegal in some places, Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.18,0:38:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in New York city, when they put bags\Non the street, Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.87,0:38:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it is public domain. Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.32,0:38:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You do not actually dumpster dive here. Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.53,0:38:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just open bags on the curb. Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.50,0:38:45.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is completely legal. Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.71,0:38:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other cities, where you are actually Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.60,0:38:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going into the dumpster that is usually Dialogue: 0,0:38:49.48,0:38:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the property, in the parking lot, Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.24,0:38:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it is technically not legal. Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.29,0:38:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to go dumpster diving, Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.21,0:38:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a guide with everything you Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.29,0:39:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could possibly want to know. Dialogue: 0,0:39:01.01,0:39:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is just at \Nrobgreenfield.tv/dumpsterdiving. Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.68,0:39:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I will be here for a week. Dialogue: 0,0:39:07.41,0:39:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will have to do a dumpster diving \Nouting. Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.23,0:39:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I do that, I will post it. Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.16,0:39:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or should we set a date right now? Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.05,0:39:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thursday? no not Thursday. Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.98,0:39:24.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Lucy is coming? Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.39,0:39:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Wednesday night....\NOh, hey Lucy! Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.16,0:39:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I can do Wednesday, Friday,\Nor Saturday. Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.61,0:39:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will post it on my page. That way ... Dialogue: 0,0:39:32.51,0:39:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will come up with a night.\NLauren: I will reshare. Dialogue: 0,0:39:35.12,0:39:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Alright, hopefully there is not Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.51,0:39:39.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be too many people. Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.26,0:39:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: You are going to have 500 people. Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.82,0:39:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: There is a group, the Freegans. Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.02,0:39:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think their website is freegan.info. Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.99,0:39:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They do dumpster diving tours. Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.70,0:39:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not sure if they are still active. Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.66,0:39:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went on one with them four years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.55,0:39:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it you do not end up getting to come \Nout, Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.64,0:39:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[check out] freegan.info. Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.84,0:39:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know if they do weekly Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.37,0:40:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or monthly dumpster diving tours. Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.52,0:40:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They also tons of information on their \Nwebsite. Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.87,0:40:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: When we went, we found 100 bagels Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.64,0:40:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I kept in my freezer for a good 6\Nmonths. Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.27,0:40:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: They were good bagels. Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.72,0:40:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: There were some really spicy \Nflavors. Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.99,0:40:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everytime someone came over, Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.38,0:40:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would make them a bagel. Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.71,0:40:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would eat it. Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.65,0:40:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would tell them, "I got that from the \Ntrash." Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.77,0:40:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was amazing. Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.72,0:40:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it opened their eyes to see, Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.46,0:40:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Wait, this is just a bagel. Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.93,0:40:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is still perfectly good. Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.45,0:40:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the last things I wanted to ask you\Nabout, Dialogue: 0,0:40:31.79,0:40:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or talk to you about is, Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.95,0:40:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the reasons why I find you so \Namazing, Dialogue: 0,0:40:35.18,0:40:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, you do so many incredible things, Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.18,0:40:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you are one of the only active men Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.08,0:40:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about sustainability. Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.01,0:40:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which, to me is amazing because you \Nare incredible, Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.12,0:40:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also, such a bummer. Dialogue: 0,0:40:48.38,0:40:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do you think that is? Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.39,0:40:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is probably the most men we have ever Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.24,0:40:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had at one of our events. Dialogue: 0,0:40:55.35,0:40:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for being you, Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.85,0:41:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and expanding the demographic of our \Nspace. Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.02,0:41:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But why do you think that is? Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.79,0:41:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we get more men to feel Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.72,0:41:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comfortable getting involved with \Nsustainability? Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.32,0:41:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: You are right, it is mostly women\Nhere tonight. Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.24,0:41:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe 80% or so. Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.69,0:41:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as the zero-waste movement, Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.84,0:41:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and much of the sustainability movement, Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.07,0:41:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are 2/3 to 3/4 women. Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.22,0:41:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are parts of the environmental Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.60,0:41:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement that are more male-oriented. Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.96,0:41:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In permaculture for example, Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.47,0:41:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is the opposite. Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.46,0:41:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just at a regional permaculture Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.40,0:41:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gathering in Florida. Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.09,0:41:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a woman come up to me afterwards. Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.44,0:41:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "Your resource list has almost \Nall men." Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.24,0:41:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As soon as she said that, I realized it. Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.59,0:41:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I had to go do research. Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.52,0:41:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found that there actually a lot of \Nwomen. Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.70,0:42:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just had not put enough energy into \Nfinding them. Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.60,0:42:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I added them all to my resource list. Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.45,0:42:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I realized there is a lot more. Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.36,0:42:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as zero-waste, and this element of\Nsustainability, Dialogue: 0,0:42:12.68,0:42:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is so much more female than male. Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.56,0:42:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think one reason is, Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.07,0:42:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I generally feel women care more than men Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.18,0:42:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[care] about these issues. Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.60,0:42:30.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know if that is sexist to say. Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.51,0:42:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that is generally what I have seen. Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.48,0:42:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see that throughout cultures. Dialogue: 0,0:42:35.25,0:42:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Women are the nurturers, the protectors. Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.70,0:42:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That goes into this as well, possibly. Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.86,0:42:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, also, I am happy to say Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.13,0:42:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I ascended manliness. Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.14,0:42:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This idea of "manliness", where manliness Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.14,0:42:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is sports, or Old Spice deodorant, or \Nthis certain way. Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.20,0:43:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In American culture, even hugging, Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.38,0:43:06.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of my men friends do not hug Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.13,0:43:07.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are worried about Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.59,0:43:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the feminine aspect of that. Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.99,0:43:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that is another thing. Dialogue: 0,0:43:11.58,0:43:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alot of this plays more into the Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.28,0:43:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feminine than the masculine. Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.65,0:43:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is crazy to say, but a lot of men Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.67,0:43:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are so afraid of expressing emotions and \Nsuch, even crying. Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.57,0:43:29.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is weird, because for me, crying is \Njust a part of life. Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.53,0:43:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I love when a man cries. Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.19,0:43:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Yeah, men who cry are great. Dialogue: 0,0:43:32.100,0:43:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, to me all of those things are \Nabsurd. Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.90,0:43:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is absurd that our culture has pigeon- Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.28,0:43:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,holed men into this protective way Dialogue: 0,0:43:41.16,0:43:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they fear expressing their emotions. Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.46,0:43:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is such a real thing. Dialogue: 0,0:43:47.06,0:43:48.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that all plays in. Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.47,0:43:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as getting more men involved, Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.80,0:43:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1. It is a societal structure that creates Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.89,0:43:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it in the first place. Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.48,0:43:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, it is hard to change societal \Nstructures. Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.97,0:44:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think that is what both you and I\Nare all about. Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.55,0:44:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not zero-waste. Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.09,0:44:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zero-waste is what we talk about, Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.11,0:44:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when we get into the deeper part of Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.06,0:44:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conversation, it is going way back Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.93,0:44:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the foundation of how our entire Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.71,0:44:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,structures of our society are set up. Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.04,0:44:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did I answer the question? Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.81,0:44:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Yes. Two more quick questions \Nfor you. Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.48,0:44:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I am really excited to open it up Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.31,0:44:27.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the audience, who I am sure have many Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.87,0:44:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting questions to ask this \Nincredible human. Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.45,0:44:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 things: First, what or who is inspiring \Nyou right now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.53,0:44:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always like to ask. Dialogue: 0,0:44:37.88,0:44:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love to point people towards other Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.70,0:44:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who inspire amazing people. Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.27,0:44:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what's inspiring, motivating you, Dialogue: 0,0:44:45.43,0:44:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or exciting you right now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.95,0:44:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can people learn about it? Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.24,0:44:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I like this guy. Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.59,0:44:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just came his farm this weekend in \NSwoope, Virginia. Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.70,0:44:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His name is Joel Saliton. Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.43,0:44:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Polyface farm, regenerative agriculture. Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.65,0:45:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just spent the weekend with him. Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.52,0:45:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is one of the most legitimate Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.37,0:45:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human beings on earth. Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.54,0:45:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think one of the biggest problems Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.41,0:45:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with our environmental movement today Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.51,0:45:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that most issues have been made very\Nblack and white. Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.30,0:45:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much of it is boiled down into viral \NInstagram posts. Dialogue: 0,0:45:15.94,0:45:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yesterday, I was swiping through \NInstagram. Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.73,0:45:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had gotten into the environment section. Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.08,0:45:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Honestly, I would say 95% of it was just \Ngarbage. Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.71,0:45:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much inaccurate information. Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.94,0:45:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much polarization that does not Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.67,0:45:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell the real story. Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.80,0:45:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This guy, you know, I respect people Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.08,0:45:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much in the environmental movement, Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.03,0:45:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who go far deeper than the headlines, Dialogue: 0,0:45:44.25,0:45:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these basic black and white ideas Dialogue: 0,0:45:46.73,0:45:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what is the right, wrong, or only \Nway to do it. Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.67,0:45:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is one person who really inspires me. Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.53,0:45:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: He is amazing. \NRob: You know of him? Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.82,0:45:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: When I was in college, studying Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.70,0:46:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environmental science, we read all about \Nhim. Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.89,0:46:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Ok, cool. Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.67,0:46:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I thought, "Damn, this guy is \Ncool." Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.78,0:46:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was one of the first people \Napproaching.... Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.07,0:46:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was one of the people that showed me Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.94,0:46:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the world that we see is not the only Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.97,0:46:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world that we have to live in. Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.49,0:46:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Yeah. Visit his farm. Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.24,0:46:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would be an amazing thing to do. Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.25,0:46:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See where your food is really coming \Nfrom. Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.42,0:46:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is another really big thing. Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.89,0:46:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When people think of vegan food, Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.31,0:46:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or their vegetables, they think of these Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.57,0:46:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glorious places where everything is fine. Dialogue: 0,0:46:31.03,0:46:35.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But go to any place where almost any Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.11,0:46:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the produce at Whole Foods down Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.88,0:46:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the street is coming from, and you would Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.80,0:46:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not be there and think, "This is \Nglorious." Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.30,0:46:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, you would probably think, Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.80,0:46:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, this is a big, industrial, factory \Nfarm." Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.68,0:46:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They just have different chemicals that \Nthey spray. Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.72,0:46:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, regenerative agriculture. Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.84,0:46:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the reason that you and I Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.82,0:46:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connected so well, because that first Dialogue: 0,0:46:57.63,0:47:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,night when we were talking, I quickly saw, Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.94,0:47:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Okay, she actually really knows." Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.26,0:47:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The story starts with your jar, Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.61,0:47:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you understand the intricacies Dialogue: 0,0:47:10.58,0:47:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the zero-waste movement extremely\Nwell, Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.78,0:47:15.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is what I really respect about you. Dialogue: 0,0:47:15.83,0:47:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Thanks, dude. Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.90,0:47:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last question, which is kind of a hard \Nquestion. Dialogue: 0,0:47:19.97,0:47:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do not have an answer, that is ok. Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.50,0:47:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like to ask this question because Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.60,0:47:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is interesting to me. Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.86,0:47:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you could play God for a day, Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.09,0:47:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make one change that you believe Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.02,0:47:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would affect the system in the most Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.14,0:47:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impactful way, what would you do? Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.17,0:47:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Ok I will answer that, Dialogue: 0,0:47:39.47,0:47:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I want to mention one other Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.98,0:47:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person, and that is Winona LaDuke. Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.72,0:47:44.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She is another one of my biggest Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.29,0:47:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inspirations right now. Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.46,0:47:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She has Winona's Hemp Farm in \NMinnesota. Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.03,0:47:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She is trying to use hemp as a way Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.13,0:47:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create regeneration. Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.75,0:47:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything about her! Dialogue: 0,0:47:53.84,0:47:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She has been doing it for about 40 years. Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.60,0:48:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as the change, I think it would be Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.92,0:48:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bringing common sense back. Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.56,0:48:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know? Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.84,0:48:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is all about our minds. Dialogue: 0,0:48:10.32,0:48:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way that we approach the world, Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.69,0:48:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that we think about things. Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.43,0:48:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we approach the world with basic Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.76,0:48:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common sense, which the reality of Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.62,0:48:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common sense is that it is no longer \Ncommon. Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.01,0:48:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I meet people with common sense, Dialogue: 0,0:48:24.78,0:48:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, "Yeah!!! Awesome!", Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.51,0:48:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because our society, our structures are Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.11,0:48:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually designed to remove our Dialogue: 0,0:48:33.83,0:48:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common sense, because if they want us to Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.98,0:48:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buy things, you do not need to have common Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.50,0:48:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense to earn some money to buy things. Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.02,0:48:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do think that the structures benefit Dialogue: 0,0:48:46.07,0:48:48.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from people having less common sense and Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.37,0:48:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more people that just follow the system. Dialogue: 0,0:48:51.12,0:48:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just common sense. If everybody had Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.84,0:48:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common sense that would change everything. Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.69,0:48:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Far deeper than any one individual change. Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.50,0:49:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody would then question everything. Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.19,0:49:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Who was it that wrote Common \NSense? Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.42,0:49:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thomas Paine? Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.60,0:49:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: The book? I need to read that. Dialogue: 0,0:49:12.68,0:49:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: It is really good. Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.25,0:49:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, I will stop talking so you can start\Ntalking. Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.96,0:49:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would first like to give you a mini Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.74,0:49:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,round of applause before the big round \Nof applause. Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.37,0:49:27.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just a quick thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.18,0:49:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Applause. Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.24,0:49:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: We will open up to questions Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.19,0:49:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from you, the audience, and some questions Dialogue: 0,0:49:37.90,0:49:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the interwebs. Dialogue: 0,0:49:39.31,0:49:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will be taking both if anyone has a\Nquestion. Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.91,0:49:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: And, no question is too crazy, Dialogue: 0,0:49:45.47,0:49:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact, I encourage the craziest ones. Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.64,0:49:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: The craziest question wins. Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.42,0:49:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: The craziest question wins! Dialogue: 0,0:49:53.40,0:49:54.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will decide what. Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.97,0:49:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, there has to be a crazy question, \Nthough. Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.32,0:50:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: I do not know how crazy it is, Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.67,0:50:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, as far as dumpster diving goes, Dialogue: 0,0:50:04.31,0:50:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has there ever been a negative experience \Nwith it? Dialogue: 0,0:50:11.74,0:50:13.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you ever had issues where you are Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.99,0:50:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not sure whether the integrity Dialogue: 0,0:50:16.70,0:50:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the food is quite there? Dialogue: 0,0:50:18.82,0:50:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Yeah. I should also say, do not feel Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.66,0:50:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you can only ask crazy questions. Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.47,0:50:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every question is a good question. Dialogue: 0,0:50:26.18,0:50:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, common sense is the number 1 thing Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.67,0:50:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with dumpster diving. Dialogue: 0,0:50:30.73,0:50:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like you would use common sense Dialogue: 0,0:50:32.50,0:50:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with everything you buy at the grocery \Nstore, Dialogue: 0,0:50:34.65,0:50:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to apply common sense to \Nyour food. Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.76,0:50:38.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, we have lost food common\Nsense. Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.100,0:50:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking at dates and deciding whether Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.55,0:50:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food is still good is not common sense. Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.03,0:50:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is one of the main reasons Dialogue: 0,0:50:46.71,0:50:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are wasting up to half of our food. Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.48,0:50:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we have removed our common Dialogue: 0,0:50:51.34,0:50:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense and put dates on there instead. Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.10,0:50:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once you get in touch with food Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.66,0:51:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you understand the basic biology of how\Nthings work. Dialogue: 0,0:51:00.64,0:51:03.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, if you have a bloated\Npackage, Dialogue: 0,0:51:03.47,0:51:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bloated package is the gases being Dialogue: 0,0:51:05.62,0:51:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created by bacteria eating things, Dialogue: 0,0:51:08.04,0:51:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,breaking it down, fermenting and creating\Ngas. Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.43,0:51:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you want that to happen, that is \Ngreat. Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.81,0:51:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is what creates beer, kombucha, Dialogue: 0,0:51:16.57,0:51:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thousands of fermented foods. Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.60,0:51:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you do not have the right Dialogue: 0,0:51:21.44,0:51:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,set-up for that, like a hot dumpster Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.36,0:51:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and milk, that is not the kind of Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.04,0:51:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fermentation you want. Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.30,0:51:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you find a bloated package in the Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.10,0:51:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dumpster, then that is something you Dialogue: 0,0:51:33.82,0:51:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,generally do not want to eat, because Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.65,0:51:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is fermented. Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.56,0:51:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The 3 things are: first you look at it. Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.15,0:51:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it looks good, you proceed. Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.45,0:51:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you smell it. Dialogue: 0,0:51:42.80,0:51:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it smells good you proceed. Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.45,0:51:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it smells good, then you taste it. Dialogue: 0,0:51:46.78,0:51:49.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it tastes good, then you are eating it \Nnow. Dialogue: 0,0:51:50.77,0:51:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laughter Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.62,0:51:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you swallow it. Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.64,0:51:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The number one rule of foraging Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.02,0:52:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-People call dumpster diving 'urban\Nforaging'- Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.13,0:52:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The number 1 rule or foraging for food, Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.02,0:52:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you only eat something if you Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.80,0:52:07.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are a 100% sure of what it is. Dialogue: 0,0:52:09.33,0:52:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other thing is that you do not eat Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.24,0:52:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bunch of it right away. Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.52,0:52:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You taste it, you try out any new Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.19,0:52:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foods before eating a lot of it, Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.56,0:52:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you do not know if you could be\Nallergic. Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.98,0:52:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: or you start tripping Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.39,0:52:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I have never tripped off dumpster\Nfood. Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.50,0:52:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do have to say that this one beer Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.26,0:52:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has got me a little drunk now. Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.86,0:52:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laughter. Dialogue: 0,0:52:27.76,0:52:29.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my first time being a little Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.53,0:52:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drunk in about 3 years. Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.21,0:52:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will try to keep this up. Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.16,0:52:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next question? Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.87,0:52:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is one here. Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.85,0:52:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: Hi. My question is for both of \Nyou. Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.64,0:52:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a zero-waste practitioner, Dialogue: 0,0:52:46.26,0:52:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also trying to educate people \Nabout it. Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.68,0:52:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started doing a few workshops in New \NYork City. Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.06,0:52:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am curious, what kind of advice Dialogue: 0,0:52:52.73,0:52:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would like to give to a zero-waste Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.61,0:52:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entrepreneur on how to grow my Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.12,0:52:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presence and my business, if you will. Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.65,0:53:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Do you want to go first? Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.88,0:53:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: You go first, because I feel Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.19,0:53:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you have done such an amazing Dialogue: 0,0:53:04.88,0:53:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,job at creating so many different types of Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.88,0:53:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communities online. Dialogue: 0,0:53:10.35,0:53:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: The first thing that comes to mind is Dialogue: 0,0:53:14.09,0:53:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be yourself, be the real thing. Dialogue: 0,0:53:19.67,0:53:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Peope today are attracted to authenticity. Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.02,0:53:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are attracted to authenticity in Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.17,0:53:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this world that is dominated by Dialogue: 0,0:53:35.01,0:53:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politicians, who are so inauthentic. Dialogue: 0,0:53:38.52,0:53:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is another weird thing about today. Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.83,0:53:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at the spectrum of who is out \Nthere, Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.53,0:53:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will see a smaller percentage Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.04,0:53:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people who are actually truly \Nauthentic. Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.34,0:53:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would be my number one \Nsuggestion. Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.91,0:53:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be authentic. Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.10,0:54:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another one is do what you are really Dialogue: 0,0:54:00.87,0:54:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passionate about. Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.83,0:54:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do what you wake up and want to do. Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.19,0:54:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are doing that, it is not work. Dialogue: 0,0:54:06.11,0:54:08.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am sure Lauren is working 15 hours \Na day. Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.100,0:54:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is because she really loves this. Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.03,0:54:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is what she is passionate about. Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.78,0:54:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not recommend becoming Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.89,0:54:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an environmentalist and choosing Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.47,0:54:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a topic that you do not really love. Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.11,0:54:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are a couple of thoughts. Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.55,0:54:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I perfectly agree with that. Dialogue: 0,0:54:25.80,0:54:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking about this today, \Nactually. Dialogue: 0,0:54:28.28,0:54:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things that have really helped me. Dialogue: 0,0:54:30.27,0:54:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To your point, yeah, I work a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.30,0:54:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some days where I am so tired,\Nor do not sleep. Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.41,0:54:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only thing that keeps me going is\Nmy 'why'. Dialogue: 0,0:54:37.91,0:54:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why am I doing this? Dialogue: 0,0:54:39.74,0:54:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is my north star? Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.50,0:54:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My north star is creating large-scale Dialogue: 0,0:54:43.41,0:54:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positive environmental change. Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.90,0:54:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know it. I say it in my sleep. Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.47,0:54:47.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I dream about it. Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.93,0:54:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do not know why you are doing\Nsomething, Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.28,0:54:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then maybe you should choose something \Nelse. Dialogue: 0,0:54:53.42,0:54:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or think deeply about it. Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.05,0:54:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is your north star? Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.24,0:54:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the mission of what you are\Ntrying to do? Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.59,0:55:00.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are you trying to accomplish? Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.21,0:55:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it is important to think about Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.18,0:55:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the shit hits the fan, Dialogue: 0,0:55:03.82,0:55:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and business does not go so well, Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.43,0:55:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which happens some days. Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.16,0:55:08.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you stay motivated? Dialogue: 0,0:55:08.89,0:55:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My north star is what keeps me inspired. Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.70,0:55:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: How long did it take you Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.68,0:55:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build your... Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.38,0:55:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: To build what? Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.23,0:55:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Questioner: build your empire. Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.07,0:55:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laughter Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.24,0:55:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I have been passionate about Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.18,0:55:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this and I have been talking about trash Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.51,0:55:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 8 years now, to my dad's dismay. Dialogue: 0,0:55:39.38,0:55:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He thought I was going to do something\Nvery different. Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.01,0:55:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know. Dialogue: 0,0:55:44.08,0:55:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, this feels like the beginning. Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.16,0:55:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started by saying no to a conventional Dialogue: 0,0:55:50.54,0:55:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,job that made me cry everyday. Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.58,0:55:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the start. Dialogue: 0,0:55:54.90,0:55:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like we are just scratching the Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.12,0:55:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surface of what we are doing here. Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.82,0:56:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I keep my eye on my North star Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.81,0:56:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-large-scale, positive environmental \Nchange- Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.95,0:56:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then every decision that I make is Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.59,0:56:05.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,centered around that. Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.69,0:56:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From there, who knows what could happen. Dialogue: 0,0:56:09.01,0:56:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Questioner: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.08,0:56:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I have no empire, so I can not speak. Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.21,0:56:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laughter. Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.89,0:56:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do want to say that I am loving this \Nconversation. Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.51,0:56:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people would come to something Dialogue: 0,0:56:22.61,0:56:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like this and they would think about.... Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.47,0:56:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are not talking about the individual Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.35,0:56:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways to do zero waste because Dialogue: 0,0:56:28.79,0:56:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do not need to know the individual \Nways Dialogue: 0,0:56:30.87,0:56:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you look at the foundation of life. Dialogue: 0,0:56:33.08,0:56:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is all about questioning your values Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.98,0:56:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and living in alignment with your values. Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.94,0:56:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once you decide you are going to Dialogue: 0,0:56:38.48,0:56:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live in alignment with your values, Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.20,0:56:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything else, though still challenging Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.25,0:56:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to run against the grain of society \Neveryday, Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.90,0:56:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when you are just choosing to live\Nwith your values, Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.89,0:56:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it makes everything a lot easier. Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.07,0:56:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I am a big believer that if you Dialogue: 0,0:56:57.24,0:56:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about what you want, Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.43,0:57:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about what your values are, Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.02,0:57:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are focused on your North star, Dialogue: 0,0:57:02.52,0:57:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your body tells you if you are doing Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.27,0:57:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something in misallignment with that. Dialogue: 0,0:57:06.06,0:57:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounds really weird, Dialogue: 0,0:57:07.48,0:57:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that is how I live my life. Dialogue: 0,0:57:09.16,0:57:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When something does not feel good, Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.86,0:57:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that it is not in alignment Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.69,0:57:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my greater goal. Dialogue: 0,0:57:14.24,0:57:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not mean to sound like my Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.68,0:57:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,head is in the clouds, but it has worked\Nfor me so far. Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.41,0:57:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The point is, what are your values? Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.27,0:57:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you living them? Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.47,0:57:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ask those 2 questions. Dialogue: 0,0:57:25.02,0:57:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: How do you travel? Dialogue: 0,0:57:27.74,0:57:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: How do I travel? Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.33,0:57:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes, I walk. Sometimes I bike. Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.79,0:57:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I get in cars. Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.97,0:57:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I take a train or buses. Dialogue: 0,0:57:34.95,0:57:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I fly. Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.03,0:57:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any other ways that I travel? Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.50,0:57:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canoe. Occasionally a boat or canoe. Dialogue: 0,0:57:47.30,0:57:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Generally, if I can, I try not to get in \Na plane. Dialogue: 0,0:57:52.86,0:57:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been 2 years since I have flown. Dialogue: 0,0:57:55.63,0:57:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But next month I am doing a trip around Dialogue: 0,0:57:57.96,0:57:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world where I will be flying. Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.74,0:58:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will do that accross oceans, Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.04,0:58:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but once I get to Europe for my speaking \Ntour, Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.95,0:58:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I will be taking trains, buses,\Nboats around. Dialogue: 0,0:58:10.91,0:58:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To get here from Florida, Dialogue: 0,0:58:13.48,0:58:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I drove to Atlanta with someone who was Dialogue: 0,0:58:16.05,0:58:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already going that way, Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.61,0:58:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I took a train to Virginia. Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.89,0:58:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I took a bus to DC, then a bus here. Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.18,0:58:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: We are very glad you did. Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.21,0:58:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Me too Dialogue: 0,0:58:26.87,0:58:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Any other questions? Dialogue: 0,0:58:28.42,0:58:33.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: I volunteer with City Harvest\Nwhen I can. Dialogue: 0,0:58:33.39,0:58:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,9am-5pm Monday-Friday is when they need Dialogue: 0,0:58:37.10,0:58:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,volunteers and I am usually at work. Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.63,0:58:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are there any other food rescue Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.62,0:58:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizations that might need volunteers? Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.91,0:58:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: My favorite in the city, I have Dialogue: 0,0:58:50.32,0:58:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been using their service for so long, Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.55,0:58:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is 'Growing my Seed'. Dialogue: 0,0:58:55.58,0:58:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They always need volunteers at the Dialogue: 0,0:58:57.48,0:59:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compost pick-up, or the clothing pick-up. Dialogue: 0,0:59:01.19,0:59:03.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Questioner: I go there all the time.\NLauren: Me too. Dialogue: 0,0:59:03.75,0:59:05.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have not actually volunteered. Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.34,0:59:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I probably should because I have been Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.94,0:59:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dropping my compost off for so long. Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.90,0:59:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So thank you to Growing My Seed. Dialogue: 0,0:59:17.44,0:59:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I am sure there is a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.25,0:59:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different food rescue programs around. Dialogue: 0,0:59:21.20,0:59:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can not think of any off the top of my\Nhead. Dialogue: 0,0:59:23.47,0:59:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I know there are other smaller ones. Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.76,0:59:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Audience: Rescuing Leftover Quisine Dialogue: 0,0:59:30.72,0:59:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: That is Lucy Biggers.\NLauren: Yay! Dialogue: 0,0:59:33.31,0:59:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: She helped me spread my message\Nmany times. Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.72,0:59:37.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She is at Now This Dialogue: 0,0:59:37.13,0:59:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you Lucy. Dialogue: 0,0:59:38.76,0:59:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: If you do not follow Lucy, Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.38,0:59:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then follow her. You will not regret it. Dialogue: 0,0:59:44.85,0:59:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any other questions? Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.03,0:59:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: I often find myself getting\Nfrustrated Dialogue: 0,0:59:50.65,0:59:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to be more aligned with zero waste\Nvalues, Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.76,0:59:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also be in a society where Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.33,1:00:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone else is more or less on the same\Npage. Dialogue: 0,1:00:00.66,1:00:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understand that we are all progressing Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.50,1:00:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our own way and at our own pace. Dialogue: 0,1:00:06.21,1:00:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I agree not to waste too much energy Dialogue: 0,1:00:10.44,1:00:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on people who would not really do it, Dialogue: 0,1:00:16.51,1:00:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but for those who are already in a \Nposition Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.98,1:00:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where other people look up to them, Dialogue: 0,1:00:23.38,1:00:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for them to be more environmentally\Nsustainable. Dialogue: 0,1:00:26.53,1:00:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How would you recommend to Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.46,1:00:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approach them about that? Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.42,1:00:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most direct way would be calling them\Nout, Dialogue: 0,1:00:34.43,1:00:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that may not be effective. Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.44,1:00:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: How do you approach people Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.87,1:00:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are leaders? Is that the question? Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.86,1:00:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say that you are just going to Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.05,1:00:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have some guts [courage] to call out Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.10,1:00:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who are leaders. Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.40,1:00:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I would start by saying, do not\Ncall them out. Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.13,1:00:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do not judge them or be negative towards \Nthem. Dialogue: 0,1:00:58.63,1:01:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be loving. Dialogue: 0,1:01:00.62,1:01:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they are already leaders, Dialogue: 0,1:01:02.11,1:01:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have done something that \Ninspired someone. Dialogue: 0,1:01:04.37,1:01:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Approach them like you would approach Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.14,1:01:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone you love, and say, Dialogue: 0,1:01:08.52,1:01:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I love what you do and this is something\NI care about. Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.54,1:01:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you like to have a converstaion \Nabout it?" Dialogue: 0,1:01:13.90,1:01:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Yeah, approach with passion.\NLauren and Rob: compassion. Dialogue: 0,1:01:18.47,1:01:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if the person is totally off base. Dialogue: 0,1:01:24.94,1:01:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do not combat them with compassion, Dialogue: 0,1:01:28.17,1:01:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it is unlikely you are going to get\Nanywhere. Dialogue: 0,1:01:30.74,1:01:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Generally, I would say, approach Dialogue: 0,1:01:33.26,1:01:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with compassion and a genuine desire. Dialogue: 0,1:01:36.73,1:01:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you strategically actually want to try Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.96,1:01:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get the conversation going. Dialogue: 0,1:01:43.35,1:01:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The standard response of someone Dialogue: 0,1:01:45.11,1:01:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they get told that they are doing Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.95,1:01:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something wrong, whether they are Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.57,1:01:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leader or not, is to become defensive. Dialogue: 0,1:01:52.82,1:01:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as the environmental movement goes, Dialogue: 0,1:01:54.99,1:01:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think one of the most important things Dialogue: 0,1:01:57.02,1:01:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can all do is become psychologists Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.05,1:02:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or understand basic psychology. Dialogue: 0,1:02:01.40,1:02:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is all about how people perceive \Nthings. Dialogue: 0,1:02:05.15,1:02:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the way that I always approach\Nthings. Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.76,1:02:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, wearing my trash around for a\Nmonth. Dialogue: 0,1:02:11.38,1:02:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to ask, "How will people perceive \Nthis?" Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.90,1:02:18.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the answer was that everybody would \Nbe turned off, Dialogue: 0,1:02:18.09,1:02:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I would not have done it. Dialogue: 0,1:02:20.82,1:02:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to always design everything I do\Naround perception. Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.47,1:02:29.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In regards to approaching leaders, Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.47,1:02:31.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you cannot put them on the defense, Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.89,1:02:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because then they are more likely to go Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.17,1:02:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the opposite direction. Dialogue: 0,1:02:36.02,1:02:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Approaching with compassion is very\Nimportant. Dialogue: 0,1:02:40.59,1:02:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, approaching with knowledge to be Dialogue: 0,1:02:45.34,1:02:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to explain yourself. Dialogue: 0,1:02:47.01,1:02:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is best to know what you are talking\Nabout. Dialogue: 0,1:02:49.60,1:02:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This applies to any situation. Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.25,1:02:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come to them with information to help. Dialogue: 0,1:02:56.59,1:03:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do not have solutions or\Nalternatives, Dialogue: 0,1:03:02.13,1:03:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they will often write you off. Dialogue: 0,1:03:06.73,1:03:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you cannot say what that person should \Ndo, Dialogue: 0,1:03:09.61,1:03:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they will often just write you off. Dialogue: 0,1:03:11.60,1:03:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is the other thing: sharing the\Nalternatives. Dialogue: 0,1:03:14.94,1:03:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I do not know. Dialogue: 0,1:03:15.94,1:03:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are a couple of things Dialogue: 0,1:03:17.35,1:03:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that come to mind for me. Dialogue: 0,1:03:20.10,1:03:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One other thing to mention is Dialogue: 0,1:03:24.31,1:03:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of our leaders do need be called out Dialogue: 0,1:03:27.10,1:03:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in one form or another, but also remember Dialogue: 0,1:03:31.28,1:03:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody is a hypocrite. Dialogue: 0,1:03:33.20,1:03:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every person in this room is a hypocrite. Dialogue: 0,1:03:35.26,1:03:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a hypocrite. Dialogue: 0,1:03:36.31,1:03:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren is a hypocrite. Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.44,1:03:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are all hypocrites. Dialogue: 0,1:03:38.61,1:03:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a matter of reducing our hypocrisy. Dialogue: 0,1:03:41.36,1:03:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is, if we want to live in\Nsociety, Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.26,1:03:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we want to see positive changes Dialogue: 0,1:03:46.89,1:03:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in humanity and our environmental\Nsituation, Dialogue: 0,1:03:49.24,1:03:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we are all required to be \Nhypocrites. Dialogue: 0,1:03:51.71,1:03:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you want to be a part of the\Nchange, Dialogue: 0,1:03:54.88,1:03:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can not go and live the perfect \Nlife. Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.46,1:04:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, Al Gore flies around Dialogue: 0,1:04:04.56,1:04:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world in private jets. Dialogue: 0,1:04:06.49,1:04:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Personally, for me, that is something Dialogue: 0,1:04:09.49,1:04:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he could do a better job at, Dialogue: 0,1:04:11.44,1:04:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not do that, at least so much. Dialogue: 0,1:04:15.96,1:04:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are things where leaders need to \Nbe called out. Dialogue: 0,1:04:19.25,1:04:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the one thing that I was going to say Dialogue: 0,1:04:22.90,1:04:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it is important remember to also look\Nat their situation. Dialogue: 0,1:04:28.21,1:04:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me personally, I have to always make\Ntrade-offs. Dialogue: 0,1:04:38.33,1:04:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I generally have done a really good job Dialogue: 0,1:04:40.21,1:04:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at living my values, but next year I am Dialogue: 0,1:04:42.46,1:04:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to fly around the world. Dialogue: 0,1:04:44.37,1:04:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I am going to emit more carbon Dialogue: 0,1:04:47.70,1:04:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that flight traveling around the world Dialogue: 0,1:04:51.34,1:04:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than probably 95% of human beings. Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.38,1:04:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To call me sustainable would be Dialogue: 0,1:04:55.45,1:04:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a complete fallacy in reality. Dialogue: 0,1:04:58.52,1:05:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I have to do is look at the \Nsituation. Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.73,1:05:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to say, "Is what I am doing worth\Nit?" Dialogue: 0,1:05:05.58,1:05:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it going to make the impact that is \Nneeded? Dialogue: 0,1:05:08.64,1:05:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people would call this a \Ntransitional society. Dialogue: 0,1:05:12.66,1:05:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot just look at a current \Nsituation Dialogue: 0,1:05:16.13,1:05:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to decide what is right if we are trying \Nto shift society. Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.10,1:05:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I want to shift society, I have to look Dialogue: 0,1:05:22.28,1:05:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strategically at everything I can do, Dialogue: 0,1:05:24.25,1:05:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, "OK, there is a negative impact Dialogue: 0,1:05:27.58,1:05:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over this, but will it offset itself?" Dialogue: 0,1:05:32.15,1:05:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, when I was wearing my trash Dialogue: 0,1:05:34.58,1:05:36.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a month, some people were very mad at\Nme. Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.97,1:05:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What are you doing creating garbage for \Na month? Dialogue: 0,1:05:39.36,1:05:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should be zero-waste." Dialogue: 0,1:05:41.21,1:05:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But by creating garbage for that month, Dialogue: 0,1:05:43.08,1:05:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and creating that visual, thousands and Dialogue: 0,1:05:44.95,1:05:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of people stopped creating so\Nmuch garbage. Dialogue: 0,1:05:49.12,1:05:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was completely worthwhile. Dialogue: 0,1:05:51.77,1:05:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know. Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.54,1:05:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess that is the other thing. Dialogue: 0,1:05:54.13,1:05:56.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, understanding and compassion Dialogue: 0,1:05:56.63,1:05:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are two essential tenants of my life. Dialogue: 0,1:05:58.82,1:06:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also try to be understanding. Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.19,1:06:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not downplaying at all that Dialogue: 0,1:06:03.34,1:06:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people do need to be called out because Dialogue: 0,1:06:05.58,1:06:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of us, are ultimately pretty \Ndelusional. Dialogue: 0,1:06:09.02,1:06:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we need to be called out Dialogue: 0,1:06:10.87,1:06:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get out of those delusions. Dialogue: 0,1:06:16.41,1:06:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Let us get a temperature check. Dialogue: 0,1:06:20.30,1:06:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do people want one question? Dialogue: 0,1:06:22.69,1:06:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clap your hand if you just want one \Nmore question. Dialogue: 0,1:06:25.38,1:06:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody is going to be offended. Dialogue: 0,1:06:28.30,1:06:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I think they want more. Dialogue: 0,1:06:29.88,1:06:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to be respectful of the room. Dialogue: 0,1:06:31.73,1:06:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know you all have places to be. Dialogue: 0,1:06:33.37,1:06:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, It is snowing. Dialogue: 0,1:06:34.44,1:06:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want to give gratitude to all of Dialogue: 0,1:06:36.39,1:06:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you for being here in the snow. Dialogue: 0,1:06:38.03,1:06:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two more questions? Does that sound good? Dialogue: 0,1:06:40.98,1:06:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[clapping] Dialogue: 0,1:06:43.97,1:06:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have one from Cyber Space. Dialogue: 0,1:06:47.04,1:06:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cyber Space: The people on Instagram Dialogue: 0,1:06:49.10,1:06:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Live are asking, do you get overwhelmed Dialogue: 0,1:06:51.70,1:06:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the future and the state of the planet? Dialogue: 0,1:06:53.77,1:06:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think we can still create change? Dialogue: 0,1:06:55.78,1:06:57.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you deal with that anxiety? Dialogue: 0,1:06:57.79,1:07:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: That is a great question.\NRob: Do you want to go or me? Dialogue: 0,1:07:00.77,1:07:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Rob Dialogue: 0,1:07:01.62,1:07:05.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I rarely get anxiety about the state Dialogue: 0,1:07:05.69,1:07:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the world or the future. Dialogue: 0,1:07:09.76,1:07:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that I am somewhat of an exception\Nin that way. Dialogue: 0,1:07:12.62,1:07:14.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the word that they say? Dialogue: 0,1:07:14.13,1:07:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think eco-anxiety or something like \Nthat. Dialogue: 0,1:07:16.19,1:07:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not up to date. Dialogue: 0,1:07:17.71,1:07:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually do not even really know Dialogue: 0,1:07:19.33,1:07:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to use Instagram, to be honest. Dialogue: 0,1:07:21.02,1:07:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am figuring it out. Dialogue: 0,1:07:22.66,1:07:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: You do a good job. Dialogue: 0,1:07:24.31,1:07:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I do alright. I still do not know how Dialogue: 0,1:07:26.34,1:07:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the 'stories' thing. Dialogue: 0,1:07:29.80,1:07:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lucy was trying to help me out with\Nthat. Dialogue: 0,1:07:31.74,1:07:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lucy: I am making a story right now. Dialogue: 0,1:07:33.54,1:07:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: She is making a story about my Dialogue: 0,1:07:35.22,1:07:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inability to make stories. Dialogue: 0,1:07:39.54,1:07:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, here is why I do not suffer from Dialogue: 0,1:07:42.74,1:07:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anxiety or depression. Dialogue: 0,1:07:45.49,1:07:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason is, for me personally, Dialogue: 0,1:07:49.86,1:07:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1: I do not take responsibility for the \Nworld. Dialogue: 0,1:07:53.70,1:07:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take responsibility for my own actions. Dialogue: 0,1:07:55.89,1:07:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to make a positive change Dialogue: 0,1:07:57.60,1:07:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the life that I have. Dialogue: 0,1:07:58.78,1:08:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not take responsibility for the 7\Nbillion. Dialogue: 0,1:08:01.26,1:08:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am just one person. Dialogue: 0,1:08:02.38,1:08:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can really only take responsibility for\Nmyself. Dialogue: 0,1:08:04.76,1:08:07.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is essentail to my life. Dialogue: 0,1:08:07.51,1:08:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other thing is that it does not matter Dialogue: 0,1:08:12.31,1:08:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is going to happen 300 years, Dialogue: 0,1:08:14.15,1:08:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,400 years, 500 years from now. Dialogue: 0,1:08:16.50,1:08:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you design your life around living in \Na way Dialogue: 0,1:08:20.74,1:08:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is beneficial to the earth, Dialogue: 0,1:08:22.26,1:08:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your community and yourself. Dialogue: 0,1:08:23.63,1:08:27.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I do is look at what I can do to Dialogue: 0,1:08:27.72,1:08:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,improve quality of life around me now Dialogue: 0,1:08:32.62,1:08:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be living in a way that Dialogue: 0,1:08:34.74,1:08:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we do have a future, Dialogue: 0,1:08:36.33,1:08:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am positively contributing towards that. Dialogue: 0,1:08:39.68,1:08:43.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, I think that life matters. Dialogue: 0,1:08:43.89,1:08:45.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I value my life, Lauren's life, Dialogue: 0,1:08:45.90,1:08:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the life of every person in this room, Dialogue: 0,1:08:47.73,1:08:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every species, the 4-20 million species Dialogue: 0,1:08:50.33,1:08:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are on earth; I just value \Nlife. Dialogue: 0,1:08:53.31,1:08:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I can improve the quality of life \Naround me, Dialogue: 0,1:08:56.64,1:08:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not destroy life around me, then Dialogue: 0,1:08:59.87,1:09:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is a life worth lived. Dialogue: 0,1:09:02.25,1:09:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is something I can generally control. Dialogue: 0,1:09:04.88,1:09:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also live in very complicated times. Dialogue: 0,1:09:08.75,1:09:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We do not know what the world Dialogue: 0,1:09:10.21,1:09:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to be like in Dialogue: 0,1:09:11.28,1:09:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: In eleven years Dialogue: 0,1:09:12.57,1:09:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Eleven? Eleven years is kind of\Nunfathomable. Dialogue: 0,1:09:15.46,1:09:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We really do not know. Dialogue: 0,1:09:16.80,1:09:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are things that we do know. Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.86,1:09:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We do know ways that we can make Dialogue: 0,1:09:21.47,1:09:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make a positive impact now Dialogue: 0,1:09:24.28,1:09:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to improve quality of life now, Dialogue: 0,1:09:26.28,1:09:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do it in a way that does not strip Dialogue: 0,1:09:28.27,1:09:30.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quality of life elsewhere for the future. Dialogue: 0,1:09:33.100,1:09:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I do not know if you all just Dialogue: 0,1:09:36.04,1:09:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to hive-five him every time he \Nspeaks. Dialogue: 0,1:09:38.22,1:09:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Audience Laughs Dialogue: 0,1:09:39.78,1:09:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... but I do. Dialogue: 0,1:09:41.48,1:09:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[clap] Dialogue: 0,1:09:44.52,1:09:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One more question? Dialogue: 0,1:09:45.69,1:09:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does anyone hace a question in the \Nroom? Dialogue: 0,1:09:47.74,1:09:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok. Last question. Dialogue: 0,1:09:49.100,1:09:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Question: Why do you cap your cash? Dialogue: 0,1:09:51.71,1:09:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Why do I cap my cash? Dialogue: 0,1:09:53.72,1:09:55.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have never put it in those exact words. Dialogue: 0,1:09:56.22,1:09:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have committed to making less than the Dialogue: 0,1:10:00.10,1:10:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,federal poverty threshhold for life, Dialogue: 0,1:10:02.43,1:10:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as long as I am alive. Dialogue: 0,1:10:03.82,1:10:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In no way am I trying to simulate poverty. Dialogue: 0,1:10:07.11,1:10:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, a short segway. Dialogue: 0,1:10:10.09,1:10:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have always liked to acknowledge Dialogue: 0,1:10:12.69,1:10:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my privilege because a lot of what Dialogue: 0,1:10:15.41,1:10:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am doing, I can do because of the Dialogue: 0,1:10:17.71,1:10:19.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,privilege that I have. Dialogue: 0,1:10:19.24,1:10:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dumpster diving: because I am white, Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.97,1:10:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I am pretty eloquent, Dialogue: 0,1:10:24.97,1:10:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the police show up, they are not Dialogue: 0,1:10:27.54,1:10:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really going to do something about it. Dialogue: 0,1:10:29.39,1:10:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Homeless people are much more Dialogue: 0,1:10:30.77,1:10:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,likely to get arrested. Dialogue: 0,1:10:31.90,1:10:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Traveling the world with no money? Dialogue: 0,1:10:33.57,1:10:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Western passport, white, not running Dialogue: 0,1:10:37.35,1:10:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from dangerous situations: Dialogue: 0,1:10:38.90,1:10:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is why I can easily do that. Dialogue: 0,1:10:40.93,1:10:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Biking across the country. Dialogue: 0,1:10:42.34,1:10:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So many of the things that I do, Dialogue: 0,1:10:44.56,1:10:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can do out of a place of privilege which Dialogue: 0,1:10:47.36,1:10:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ties into that question. Dialogue: 0,1:10:49.74,1:10:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can choose to live with very little \Nmoney, Dialogue: 0,1:10:52.18,1:10:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is a choice. Dialogue: 0,1:10:54.04,1:10:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you trying to get by, day to day, Dialogue: 0,1:10:58.94,1:11:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then to try and earn as little as possible Dialogue: 0,1:11:01.60,1:11:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not really something that is going \Nto work. Dialogue: 0,1:11:04.12,1:11:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people would call this voluntary \Nsimplicity. Dialogue: 0,1:11:06.96,1:11:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason that I choose to live Dialogue: 0,1:11:10.43,1:11:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a minimal amount of money, Dialogue: 0,1:11:13.04,1:11:15.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because I am trying as much as \Npossible Dialogue: 0,1:11:15.65,1:11:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to live in a more just and sustainable \Nway. Dialogue: 0,1:11:18.60,1:11:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a world where 1% of the population Dialogue: 0,1:11:22.20,1:11:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has [what, like] 50% of the finances. Dialogue: 0,1:11:26.36,1:11:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to stand out as the opposite of \Nthat. Dialogue: 0,1:11:30.13,1:11:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to live in a way that is more \Nequal Dialogue: 0,1:11:32.56,1:11:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the general population. Dialogue: 0,1:11:35.43,1:11:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a way of restricting Dialogue: 0,1:11:39.32,1:11:42.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,myself from getting too much. Dialogue: 0,1:11:42.45,1:11:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could be making a lot of money off Dialogue: 0,1:11:44.38,1:11:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what I am doing. Dialogue: 0,1:11:47.26,1:11:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is that often, when you Dialogue: 0,1:11:49.21,1:11:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have the opportunity for making a lot of Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.34,1:11:52.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money, it can get in the way. Dialogue: 0,1:11:52.87,1:11:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some people who do Dialogue: 0,1:11:54.21,1:11:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a great job at making money, Dialogue: 0,1:11:56.13,1:11:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plugging it into the places that matter. Dialogue: 0,1:11:58.06,1:11:59.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is that most people, Dialogue: 0,1:11:59.93,1:12:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they get a lot of money, Dialogue: 0,1:12:01.43,1:12:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they rationalize that flight to Polynesia Dialogue: 0,1:12:04.30,1:12:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a vacation, or things like that. Dialogue: 0,1:12:07.47,1:12:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a way to force me to live my values. Dialogue: 0,1:12:10.67,1:12:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I do not have money, Dialogue: 0,1:12:12.33,1:12:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to connect with my community. Dialogue: 0,1:12:14.30,1:12:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is another thing. Dialogue: 0,1:12:15.58,1:12:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am dependent upon humanity, Dialogue: 0,1:12:17.80,1:12:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I cannot meet my own needs. Dialogue: 0,1:12:21.88,1:12:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need other people to meet my needs, Dialogue: 0,1:12:23.96,1:12:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a way to encourage people Dialogue: 0,1:12:26.66,1:12:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to depend on each other. Dialogue: 0,1:12:29.45,1:12:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only societies that I have seen Dialogue: 0,1:12:31.25,1:12:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are somewhat sustainable Dialogue: 0,1:12:34.51,1:12:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are societies where people are actually Dialogue: 0,1:12:36.47,1:12:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dependent upon their neighbors. Dialogue: 0,1:12:40.04,1:12:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, in a monetized society, Dialogue: 0,1:12:42.54,1:12:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can just pay for everything I want. Dialogue: 0,1:12:47.05,1:12:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You do not have to understand your \Nactions, Dialogue: 0,1:12:49.20,1:12:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how they affect the world around you, Dialogue: 0,1:12:51.20,1:12:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when you do not have money, Dialogue: 0,1:12:52.69,1:12:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to understand your relationships Dialogue: 0,1:12:54.96,1:12:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how things get to you. Dialogue: 0,1:12:57.99,1:13:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is obviously a lot to it, Dialogue: 0,1:13:02.11,1:13:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that is a bit of an idea Dialogue: 0,1:13:05.63,1:13:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why I minimize the amount of money. Dialogue: 0,1:13:07.38,1:13:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: There is that documentary, Dialogue: 0,1:13:09.15,1:13:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'A Dollar a Day, Living on One.' Dialogue: 0,1:13:10.86,1:13:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you seen that? Dialogue: 0,1:13:12.16,1:13:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh my god. Dialogue: 0,1:13:13.64,1:13:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Such an incredible show. Dialogue: 0,1:13:16.17,1:13:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Chris Temple, they are the guys Dialogue: 0,1:13:18.51,1:13:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who filmed Trash Me, actually. Dialogue: 0,1:13:20.52,1:13:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: They are amazing. Dialogue: 0,1:13:23.05,1:13:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: They have a new documentary Dialogue: 0,1:13:24.58,1:13:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming out in March. Dialogue: 0,1:13:25.55,1:13:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Did they do Salam Neighbor Dialogue: 0,1:13:27.26,1:13:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Yeah Dialogue: 0,1:13:28.03,1:13:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: with Angelina Jolie? Dialogue: 0,1:13:29.50,1:13:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: I did not know she was in it. Dialogue: 0,1:13:31.17,1:13:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: I think she was associated in some\Nway. Dialogue: 0,1:13:33.43,1:13:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a really interesting Dialogue: 0,1:13:34.76,1:13:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentary on the value of a dollar Dialogue: 0,1:13:38.21,1:13:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in different places in the world. Dialogue: 0,1:13:41.04,1:13:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to say, thank you very much for \Nbeing here. Dialogue: 0,1:13:43.62,1:13:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the radiance you created, Dialogue: 0,1:13:47.76,1:13:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how inspiring you are, and how Dialogue: 0,1:13:49.91,1:13:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you decided to challenge what the world Dialogue: 0,1:13:52.18,1:13:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looks like, has motivated me, and so many Dialogue: 0,1:13:54.23,1:13:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people in our community so many times. Dialogue: 0,1:13:56.77,1:13:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am grateful that you decided to come \Nhere Dialogue: 0,1:13:59.16,1:14:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and share your life with us. Dialogue: 0,1:14:02.46,1:14:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On behalf of me, my team, Dialogue: 0,1:14:04.81,1:14:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everyone here, thank you for being\Nhere. Dialogue: 0,1:14:07.45,1:14:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And thank you, Rob, for being here. Dialogue: 0,1:14:09.95,1:14:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am so happy. Dialogue: 0,1:14:11.37,1:14:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Applause. Dialogue: 0,1:14:16.98,1:14:19.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rob: Thank you to Lauren Dialogue: 0,1:14:19.23,1:14:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, Lauren, for opening Dialogue: 0,1:14:21.62,1:14:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up this space to have this Dialogue: 0,1:14:23.28,1:14:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and inspiring me to come to New York, Dialogue: 0,1:14:25.76,1:14:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for everything she is doing, Dialogue: 0,1:14:27.57,1:14:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for opening up a second shop, right? Dialogue: 0,1:14:34.76,1:14:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, thank you all for being here. Dialogue: 0,1:14:37.71,1:14:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would be nothing without all of you, Dialogue: 0,1:14:39.55,1:14:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I expect all of us to inspire. Dialogue: 0,1:14:42.73,1:14:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lauren: Last thing, we are trying to do Dialogue: 0,1:14:44.64,1:14:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more talks with more incredibly inspiring\Npeople, Dialogue: 0,1:14:47.29,1:14:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if any of you know of anyone who you Dialogue: 0,1:14:49.22,1:14:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would like to introduce to the Zero-Waste, Dialogue: 0,1:14:52.63,1:14:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Package Free community, this woman who is Dialogue: 0,1:14:55.90,1:14:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hiding behind here-\Nthis is Joy, stand up- Dialogue: 0,1:14:58.88,1:15:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joy is in the red so you cannot miss \Nher. Dialogue: 0,1:15:01.05,1:15:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please share their name with Joy. Dialogue: 0,1:15:02.71,1:15:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would love to invite them to our\Nconversation. Dialogue: 0,1:15:05.27,1:15:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you everyone. Dialogue: 0,1:15:07.08,1:15:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Applause] Dialogue: 0,1:15:15.58,1:16:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music and Mingling]