WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:21.619 36C3 preroll music 00:00:21.619 --> 00:00:24.119 Herald: But thanks that you all are here. Actually, since it's all teardown moment, 00:00:24.119 --> 00:00:30.090 still, we have enough, we have lots of people here. Interesting. This is as well 00:00:30.090 --> 00:00:34.530 an interesting talk because it's Helen Leigh who's going to present this. 00:00:34.530 --> 00:00:42.370 Actually, give us an overview actually about what hackers, you know, in music 00:00:42.370 --> 00:00:47.420 meant actually in the history. So to give an overview, if I understood this well, 00:00:47.420 --> 00:00:52.260 she gives certain examples. And I think she's gonna kick this a little bit further 00:00:52.260 --> 00:00:57.579 because she's going to talk a little bit about her current work and future 00:00:57.579 --> 00:01:05.420 objectives. So I would fasten seat belts, I would say. Yes. Helen Leigh. Give her a 00:01:05.420 --> 00:01:08.800 warm applause. 00:01:08.800 --> 00:01:13.270 applause 00:01:13.270 --> 00:01:19.960 Helen: Hello? Yep. So I'm Helen. This is if you want to follow my stuff or download 00:01:19.960 --> 00:01:25.869 any of my things that I mentioned in the talk about GitHub and various plots of my 00:01:25.869 --> 00:01:30.869 work on Twitter. So here we go. OK. Right. I am going to talk to you today about 00:01:30.869 --> 00:01:35.160 we're gonna give you a story. I'm gonna give you a story about how a group of 00:01:35.160 --> 00:01:40.929 music hackers in the 1940s changed the face of music technology forever and how 00:01:40.929 --> 00:01:43.610 they didn't know anything by what they were doing. But they still manage to do 00:01:43.610 --> 00:01:47.629 some incredibly cool things by just disregarding and being really awesome 00:01:47.629 --> 00:01:52.500 hardware hackers. I'm also gonna give you an overview of some of the coolest 00:01:52.500 --> 00:01:57.770 projects coming out of London and Berlin at the moment. So I've been... I'm living 00:01:57.770 --> 00:02:01.490 in Berlin at the moment, but I was active in the music hacking scene in London for a 00:02:01.490 --> 00:02:05.910 long time as well. So I'm going to show you some cool projects. And before I start 00:02:05.910 --> 00:02:12.711 off on my story and cool projects I'm going to just introduce myself. I am a 00:02:12.711 --> 00:02:17.209 creative technologist, which is a ridiculous buzzword. But people like to 00:02:17.209 --> 00:02:22.540 put you in a box. But I'm basically a massive nerd who really likes arty stuff, 00:02:22.540 --> 00:02:27.239 so I'd like to smash them together. My favorite things to smash together are 00:02:27.239 --> 00:02:33.489 electronics and hardware and with music technologies. And so with that in mind, I 00:02:33.489 --> 00:02:39.489 make a lot of strange musical instrument creations, usually very experimental in 00:02:39.489 --> 00:02:43.760 form. I'll show you some of that as well. This is one of my experimental 00:02:43.760 --> 00:02:49.400 instruments. I make sonic psycho sculpture creatures and I've taken them on 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:58.140 residencies in London, Shenzen and Copenhagen. And I just really like 00:02:58.140 --> 00:03:02.680 experimenting with what a musical instrument looks like. And not so much 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:06.499 what it sounds like. I mean, I am into other people's noise art. But for me, I 00:03:06.499 --> 00:03:11.940 like my instruments to sound melodic. But yeah, form, I'm very interested in 00:03:11.940 --> 00:03:16.939 experimenting with. I also really like at the moment - this is made out of brass. 00:03:16.939 --> 00:03:19.650 And I've made a lot of stuff with different metals. But at the moment, I'm 00:03:19.650 --> 00:03:24.930 on a big soft circuit kick. And so I'm experimenting with electronic embroidery 00:03:24.930 --> 00:03:33.900 and soft robotics to make kind of kinetic, sculptural, squishy creature things. And 00:03:33.900 --> 00:03:38.749 I'll show you some of that later, too. And obviously, this doesn't pay my rent, 00:03:38.749 --> 00:03:45.879 shockingly. So I also do some product design and a lot of curriculum based 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:50.159 things, remember, I'm a writer as well. So this is a product that I designed. That's 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:54.659 actually my hand on the box. Very exciting. And it's a wearable instrument 00:03:54.659 --> 00:04:03.989 for children sold by PIMORONI and Adafruit and et cetera. And it's a DIY wearable 00:04:03.989 --> 00:04:08.170 gesture based instrument for children to learn how to code with. And I designed 00:04:08.170 --> 00:04:13.430 that with Imogen Heap. And I'll tell you about that cool project later. But that's 00:04:13.430 --> 00:04:17.889 something I do. And I also do a lot of writing. This is a still from one of my 00:04:17.889 --> 00:04:24.290 books I wrote recently. Last year it came out, one called The Crafty Kid's Guide to 00:04:24.290 --> 00:04:29.670 DIY Electronics, where I teach basic electronics through the medium of paper 00:04:29.670 --> 00:04:36.060 craft, origami, sewing and kind of like DIY robotics as well. I also write for 00:04:36.060 --> 00:04:41.449 Hackaday. I've written for blah blah blah, doesn't matter. I write words for money 00:04:41.449 --> 00:04:46.800 sometimes. Anyway, that's me. I am going to tell you as one of my favorite stories 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:51.759 of music, tech history. I'm going to start off here with this rather pretentious 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:56.220 quote from a rather pretentious man who I still kind of love is a guy called John 00:04:56.220 --> 00:05:01.500 Cage, who most people know him for his experimental compositions and his many 00:05:01.500 --> 00:05:06.470 and varied writings on on the subject of what is sound and what a sound artist. 00:05:06.470 --> 00:05:11.310 But he was also pretty early on a hardware hacker. He made experimental instruments. 00:05:11.310 --> 00:05:15.550 Actually, one of his first famous pieces was him like smashing up a piano and 00:05:15.550 --> 00:05:21.729 changing that. So he was a composer, but he was also an experimental hardware 00:05:21.729 --> 00:05:26.830 artist. I mean, he said this. There is no noise. There is only sound. And the reason 00:05:26.830 --> 00:05:31.530 I put this quote up there is to kind of make you... remind you that all music is 00:05:31.530 --> 00:05:37.129 made up. Okay. All instruments are inventions. The violin wasn't a violin 00:05:37.129 --> 00:05:42.409 until probably the 13th century when various instruments that came before it 00:05:42.409 --> 00:05:47.319 converged and someone using new techniques, new tools. And it starts and 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:51.789 it keeps revolving through the ages. Right. And I think you could think of an 00:05:51.789 --> 00:05:57.490 instrument as a - as a specific thing, but it's really not. We've been messing around 00:05:57.490 --> 00:06:03.340 with science since we've been humans, basically, and deter with compositions. 00:06:03.340 --> 00:06:07.840 You might think of classical music mainstays like Stravinsky, Strauss or 00:06:07.840 --> 00:06:13.979 Debussy as, as these kind of like boring establishment figures, but actually in the 00:06:13.979 --> 00:06:18.509 day they were seen as avant garde. People walked out of their performances. There 00:06:18.509 --> 00:06:23.560 were hit pieces about them in the mails. You know, the Daily Mail of the time. So 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:27.180 basically, anything that sounds strange to you now or something that's experimental 00:06:27.180 --> 00:06:32.569 to us could well have an influence in a long reaching way. So, yes, here we are. 00:06:32.569 --> 00:06:39.840 Oh, I'm going to tell you. But my favorite conspiracy theory as well. So even down to 00:06:39.840 --> 00:06:47.370 the note A, 440 Hertz, middle A. And it's - It was not even - it was not the letter. 00:06:47.370 --> 00:06:52.760 Sorry. It was not 440 Hertz until the 1950s when a group of dudes met up in one 00:06:52.760 --> 00:06:58.300 room in London. And then everybody signed this agreement saying, OK, now an A is 440 00:06:58.300 --> 00:07:02.409 Hertz. Before that, a flute in Italy might sound different to a flute in France. 00:07:02.409 --> 00:07:07.830 You'd have like this small tonal variations. So it wasn't until yeah the 00:07:07.830 --> 00:07:11.199 1950s that it became actually the letter A. There's a wonderful series of 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:16.460 conspiracy theories around this that actually that they chose 440 Hertz because 00:07:16.460 --> 00:07:21.090 it's a method of population mind control and there are alternative websites out 00:07:21.090 --> 00:07:24.699 there, now you can literally go and if you search for like uhm 440 Hertz 00:07:24.699 --> 00:07:27.791 conspiracies, there are websites that are campaigning like groups that are 00:07:27.791 --> 00:07:33.219 campaigning for it to be changed for the whole of modern music to be a to be 00:07:33.219 --> 00:07:41.050 changed. There's one at 432. There's one at 438. And if you're in the 438 camp, 00:07:41.050 --> 00:07:44.719 because there are opposing camps as well. So if you're in the 438 camp, you're in 00:07:44.719 --> 00:07:49.349 luck because someone's made a music adjustor. OK, so you can take your track 00:07:49.349 --> 00:07:52.680 that you've done and you can put it into a converter and it will convert all of your 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:57.990 music into 438. So you can do that if you like. And there's even a radical fringe 00:07:57.990 --> 00:08:03.840 group calling for the middle A to be 538, which is absolutely insane. But there we 00:08:03.840 --> 00:08:10.620 are, I love it. And so if you ever want to go down a conspiracy theory YouTube black 00:08:10.620 --> 00:08:16.780 hole, which you probably will do, we're all at camp, uh congress, not camp. You 00:08:16.780 --> 00:08:21.990 can look at that. But basically my point here is that music is all made up. 00:08:21.990 --> 00:08:27.050 Instruments are all inventions. So, you know, there are no rules. I'm gonna take 00:08:27.050 --> 00:08:33.090 you through em - one of the paths, one of the many paths of music history and music 00:08:33.090 --> 00:08:39.219 hacking. And we're going to look at one piece of hacked technology and how people 00:08:39.219 --> 00:08:42.340 who played with that and did things with it that they weren't supposed to do 00:08:42.340 --> 00:08:48.010 changed modern history, modern music production. This is the magnetic tape 00:08:48.010 --> 00:08:53.241 recorder. It's a lovely device. And it was used popularized in World War 2 by the 00:08:53.241 --> 00:08:59.141 Nazis who used it to chop up propaganda and so on. And after the World War, after 00:08:59.141 --> 00:09:06.010 the World War and the BBC took on it, took it on themselves to try and develop a 00:09:06.010 --> 00:09:12.190 version of this. So this is a relatively modern technology. In the 40s and 50s, 00:09:12.190 --> 00:09:17.120 it started becoming becoming popular and it was used for real to real broadcasting, 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:22.160 right. Before this, it was grammophones. But a bunch of - so they were used in 00:09:22.160 --> 00:09:26.209 music studios and they were relatively expensive. As it became cheaper, a bunch 00:09:26.209 --> 00:09:34.680 of music hackers saw its potential to do something more than just line it up. So 00:09:34.680 --> 00:09:38.820 these hackers got their hands on a bunch of these and a bunch of these magnetic 00:09:38.820 --> 00:09:44.730 tape recorders. And as people want to do with technology that they get their hands 00:09:44.730 --> 00:09:50.150 on it. They started to fuck with it in a new and very exciting ways. And what they 00:09:50.150 --> 00:09:55.040 did is they they as a movement in Paris and then early 1940s called musique 00:09:55.040 --> 00:09:58.769 concrète, which was the first group of people who were doing this. Aside from one 00:09:58.769 --> 00:10:02.721 lonely guy in Egypt as well. But there was like the epicenter of this was - is in 00:10:02.721 --> 00:10:08.510 Paris. And what you do is you see the the actual tape there. You use a razor blade 00:10:08.510 --> 00:10:13.960 to cut it. And then you can, for example, flip it over, tape it back together, and 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.520 then you've got one piece that's backwards. Right. OK. And using that 00:10:18.520 --> 00:10:22.190 technique, I'll show you how actually you this is it. 00:10:22.190 --> 00:10:28.320 sounds playing OK, so not only can you chop things up and 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:32.540 turn them around, you can speed them up and slow them down. This gives you - this 00:10:32.540 --> 00:10:37.610 seems - so, basically, if you do it faster, it will give you a higher tone. 00:10:37.610 --> 00:10:42.250 And if you do it slower, if you slow it down, it will be lower. OK. We all know 00:10:42.250 --> 00:10:46.079 this kind of instinctually now. But back then, this was fellow. This was completely 00:10:46.079 --> 00:10:50.779 revolutionary. You could make sounds that were not existing in nature. Take, for 00:10:50.779 --> 00:10:55.700 example, the plucking of a violin string, okay, you pluck a violin string. And it 00:10:55.700 --> 00:10:59.910 comes on quick. It's like boom. And then if you let it die off, there's a "laaa". 00:10:59.910 --> 00:11:04.730 So what we call that in music is a sharp attack on a long delay. And that's how a 00:11:04.730 --> 00:11:09.120 lot of musical instruments or natural science will work. OK. They will fade off, 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:14.790 OK. But using this technology, you could switch it around. So it had the 00:11:14.790 --> 00:11:20.990 opposite effect. So like "uooom" the long attack and a short delay. So you could 00:11:20.990 --> 00:11:25.610 create sounds that are not found in nature now, which is extraordinary. And at the 00:11:25.610 --> 00:11:27.731 same time, there was the advent of something called field recording, which 00:11:27.731 --> 00:11:32.380 was you could go outside instead of having to record in a studio. You could have a 00:11:32.380 --> 00:11:37.010 physical piece of equipment that you could carry around with you and a microphone, so 00:11:37.010 --> 00:11:42.260 you could go and record sounds outside. Found sound is what we call that. Then you 00:11:42.260 --> 00:11:45.389 could take it back to the studio, chop it up with a scalpel, sellotape it back 00:11:45.389 --> 00:11:50.019 together, rerecord it, and you could create... This is just you know, it's just 00:11:50.019 --> 00:11:56.100 a huge, vast new set of tools that you can work with as somebody who's making music. 00:11:56.100 --> 00:12:01.250 Now the first people doing this were, as I say, these French guys in Paris 00:12:03.271 --> 00:12:07.709 and in musique concrète. And they were doing it. And due to modern music, 00:12:07.709 --> 00:12:11.350 digital preservation techniques, you can hear these, the sounds they were making on 00:12:11.350 --> 00:12:15.320 YouTube. You can spend some time and listen to that. And I won't lie, they 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:21.279 sound pretty awful. Nobody wants to listen to that. I mean, unless you're a true 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:24.920 enthusiast. But it's not it's not about the music they were making, is about the 00:12:24.920 --> 00:12:28.490 techniques that they were creating, their experimentation sounded terrible but 00:12:28.490 --> 00:12:35.269 actually was incredibly influential. We use sampling now as just an ordinary 00:12:35.269 --> 00:12:41.290 thing, but this was the technology behind it. It really came to a head in the 1960s 00:12:41.290 --> 00:12:47.339 when Beatle - the Beatles were the first people to use this technique on "Tomorrow 00:12:47.339 --> 00:12:52.009 Never Knows". Now, normally, well, I would play this, but when I did, at a talk 00:12:52.009 --> 00:12:55.350 similar to this at the Hackaday Super Conference, they uhm they pulled my 00:12:55.350 --> 00:12:58.949 livestream because there was a 10 second snippet of the Beatles. So I've decided 00:12:58.949 --> 00:13:04.050 not to risk it today. But you can look up "Tomorrow Never Knows" and you can hear 00:13:04.050 --> 00:13:09.220 these "woauum, woauum, woauum" kind of sounds. And that's actually flipped. 00:13:09.220 --> 00:13:12.639 That's just flipped sounds that the - all of the Beatles brought in sounds from 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:17.019 their home. They flipped it around, speeded up and slowed it down. There's a 00:13:17.019 --> 00:13:21.220 famous like very high pitched "hiehiehiehiehie" sound in that song and 00:13:21.220 --> 00:13:24.730 it's just Paul McCartney laughing and they've manipulated it using sticky tape 00:13:24.730 --> 00:13:29.040 and scalpels. Anyway, so that was the beginning of these new production 00:13:29.040 --> 00:13:32.850 techniques, right? You can use these in modern music, you know, when you're in 00:13:32.850 --> 00:13:36.699 your Ableton or your Logic or whatever. You know, those are just standard 00:13:36.699 --> 00:13:42.540 features. But this was the beginning of it. And it's incredibly influential. I could 00:13:42.540 --> 00:13:48.320 follow it down this path. But I'm actually going to take this and 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.500 leave them to go on with modern mainstream production. And I'm going to talk about 00:13:52.500 --> 00:13:57.269 this woman instead. Who was one of my favorite things about hacker culture is 00:13:57.269 --> 00:14:01.780 the way that we learn from each other and the way that we rev off of each other's 00:14:01.780 --> 00:14:06.450 work. And so I'm gonna go slightly sideways and talk about this artist and 00:14:06.450 --> 00:14:12.170 engineer. Her name is Daphne Oram, and who's heard of Daphne Oram? All right. 00:14:12.170 --> 00:14:19.540 Like ten of you. Which is more than usual, actually, to be honest. So Daphne Oram is 00:14:19.540 --> 00:14:24.860 - everyone should know her name and that's why I never shut up about her. She was a 00:14:24.860 --> 00:14:30.980 musician and physicist, an electronics engineer who was unfortunate enough to be 00:14:30.980 --> 00:14:39.779 a woman. And was - has a pretty tragic work history. But she... she's one of the 00:14:39.779 --> 00:14:44.389 iconic figures of early electronic music. She should be as well-known as any of the 00:14:44.389 --> 00:14:50.170 - as Moog or whatever. But anyway, so she's a trained musician and she got a job 00:14:50.170 --> 00:14:54.050 at the BBC queuing up these reel to reel magnetic tape recorders, which is actually 00:14:54.050 --> 00:15:00.720 a pretty big deal at the time for women as well. So she would. She went on a training 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:05.720 course to Paris and - just studio recording techniques. You know, standard 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:11.529 corporate training. Right. And while she was there I believe she met some of the 00:15:11.529 --> 00:15:16.040 people behind the musique concrète. And she was basically and they showed her what 00:15:16.040 --> 00:15:19.610 they were doing. And it totally blew her mind. She was like, oh, my God, I will 00:15:19.610 --> 00:15:23.030 take this back to the BBC. It's gonna be so cool. I'm going to revolutionize 00:15:23.030 --> 00:15:28.500 everything. It's gonna be awesome. She took it like that. And predictably enough, 00:15:28.500 --> 00:15:34.600 everyone was like, no, go back to pressing buttons. So she did. But she also would 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.870 run around at the BBC late at night after hours stealing bits of equipment from 00:15:38.870 --> 00:15:43.790 other people's studios and wheeling them into her own studio. And she would 00:15:43.790 --> 00:15:48.779 experiment with all these musique concrète methods. And she was an electronics 00:15:48.779 --> 00:15:54.000 person, as well, and she was one of the first people in the world to make purely 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:57.450 electronic music, because she was one of the first instances of someone who 00:15:57.450 --> 00:16:02.910 recorded her oscilloscope and then started using that for compositional purposes as 00:16:02.910 --> 00:16:08.339 well. And she was doing this for maybe five, six, seven years. And at the end of 00:16:08.339 --> 00:16:11.890 that, she started to get some interest. She managed finally to convince somebody 00:16:11.890 --> 00:16:16.970 to give her a commission to create some incidental music for a piece of - for a 00:16:16.970 --> 00:16:24.500 show. And erm and it was a success. Also people hated it. Of course. But enough 00:16:24.500 --> 00:16:29.149 people wanted her to repeat it that eventually the BBC gave her her own studio 00:16:29.149 --> 00:16:34.889 which is like absolutely, you know, out of the question for someone in the fifties, 00:16:34.889 --> 00:16:41.900 for a woman in the 50s. And so she she was starting to make this but she erm 00:16:41.900 --> 00:16:44.720 unfortunately at this point she got the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, which is one of 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:50.740 the most iconic sound design workshops and studios in the whole history of music 00:16:50.740 --> 00:16:56.320 technology. So she starts this workshop, the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, but a year 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:04.730 later she leaves to start her own artists practice because they - they said she said 00:17:04.730 --> 00:17:09.560 they wanted my ideas and they wanted my work but they didn't want me. So she had 00:17:09.560 --> 00:17:13.290 to leave her life's work. And she was largely erased, actually, from everything 00:17:13.290 --> 00:17:18.699 that she did, even though she founded this iconic this absolutely iconic workshop. 00:17:18.699 --> 00:17:24.150 And she went off and created. She didn't have a sad life after that. She - she went 00:17:24.150 --> 00:17:29.620 off and created em, this wild synthesiser, which is in the London Science Museum. And 00:17:29.620 --> 00:17:34.910 I was like instead of she she loved looking at wave forms of music. So she 00:17:34.910 --> 00:17:37.980 thought she would use watercolor to draw the wave forms and then have a synthesizer 00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:41.400 interpret those wave forms. And that's called the Oramics Machine is like 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.550 absolutely wild. You can look that up on the Internet as well. It's cool to look 00:17:45.550 --> 00:17:51.700 at. So, yeah, she's becoming a bit more popular now because of the work of some of 00:17:51.700 --> 00:17:55.760 the guys at the Radiophonic Workshop who still exist. Some of the old guys who go 00:17:55.760 --> 00:18:00.380 around telling cool stories about them. And but also because of the woman she 00:18:00.380 --> 00:18:05.900 helped bring in who stayed after she left. And she's quite famous now because of 00:18:05.900 --> 00:18:10.039 something I'll show you. It's this lady. And this is Delia Derbyshire, who's head 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:14.980 of Delia Derbyshire. A lot more of you. I thought so. Now, Delia Derbyshire again 00:18:14.980 --> 00:18:18.230 the same? She's got a maths and music degree. She couldn't get a job, but she 00:18:18.230 --> 00:18:21.970 ended up basically pestering them into letting her do some interning at the 00:18:21.970 --> 00:18:27.539 Radiophonic Workshop and eventually got a job there. And then she was the arranger 00:18:27.539 --> 00:18:34.270 and made the instrumentation for this. Now I'm going to play this for you. Before I 00:18:34.270 --> 00:18:39.600 do, I want you to think about the fact that at the time every sound had to be 00:18:39.600 --> 00:18:46.140 physically cut and sticky taped together, every sing-. And there's no multi-track 00:18:46.140 --> 00:18:50.659 recorders back then either. OK. So you have to. It's an absolutely enormous 00:18:50.659 --> 00:18:54.630 process of recording the sounds, stretching the sound, cutting the sounds, 00:18:54.630 --> 00:18:58.640 sticking it back together, making on a reel, recording that onto a separate reel. 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:01.750 Then you've got this and then you add more sounds and then you have like several 00:19:01.750 --> 00:19:08.090 tapes that you have to condense into each other without multi-track technology. OK. 00:19:08.090 --> 00:19:13.880 They're literally on different machines shouting "Go" at each other. And that's 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:17.400 how they recharged multi-track. But she was very blasé about it. It was kind of amusing 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:20.809 because it seems ridiculous to me now to be able to compose a piece of music 00:19:20.809 --> 00:19:26.940 like that, like a jigsaw puzzle. But she just shrugged and said, well, 00:19:26.940 --> 00:19:34.550 seemed to work. I find that kind of charming but yes. So that's. Oh, no. Why didn't it play? 00:19:34.550 --> 00:19:37.170 low volume static noise 00:19:37.170 --> 00:19:44.530 Oh, no. Huh, goddamned. Well I'm gonna play it for you anyway. 00:19:44.530 --> 00:19:48.620 Oh, it's playing! Oh good, it just took a minute. 00:19:48.620 --> 00:19:59.760 Doctor Who Theme playing 00:19:59.760 --> 00:20:03.710 [over the music] No theremin. No synthesizers existed. This was literally 00:20:03.710 --> 00:20:13.429 just tapes. And she also made her own instruments so she [inaudible], including 00:20:13.429 --> 00:20:17.240 my favourite which is called the wopulator(?). And that just a good name 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:24.078 Yeah, so uhm, they actually used a lot of electronic engineering gear in their work. 00:20:24.078 --> 00:20:27.910 Anyway, we know how this goes. And I don't want to get another copyright violation. 00:20:27.910 --> 00:20:31.567 Doctor Who Theme stops So let's move on. I did actually want to 00:20:31.567 --> 00:20:37.100 play one of her own songs, so that's her commercial work. But she was also an 00:20:37.100 --> 00:20:42.809 electronic experimental musician of her own and on her own accord. And she I think 00:20:42.809 --> 00:20:49.250 you kind of forget that music in the 50s and 60s actually kind of was wild as well. 00:20:49.250 --> 00:20:51.829 Let's see if we... Music playing 00:20:51.829 --> 00:20:55.340 [talking over music] This is one of her tracks from the 60s. 00:20:55.340 --> 00:21:13.369 Kind of a banger. [making sounds] 00:21:13.369 --> 00:21:19.609 You might even recognize this track, because someone did sample it. 00:21:19.609 --> 00:21:23.659 Die Antwoord literally just rapped over the top of that and then released it as a 00:21:23.659 --> 00:21:32.659 track. She made this for a science fiction show that was based on an Asimov story and 00:21:32.659 --> 00:21:36.049 this remains, but the Asimov story that it was made for has been deleted from the BBC 00:21:36.049 --> 00:21:42.510 archives, which I find to be an absolute tragedy. I would love to watch that. If 00:21:42.510 --> 00:21:47.140 you uhm if you flip it back, the robotic sound is singing "praise be to the 00:21:47.140 --> 00:21:50.590 master". Music stops 00:21:50.590 --> 00:21:54.690 Thank you, Daphne. And so that's the that's my story of the BBC Radiophonic 00:21:54.690 --> 00:21:58.620 Workshop. But I wanted to leave you with a quote from one of the BBC Radiophonic 00:21:58.620 --> 00:22:03.350 Workshop engineers. Unfortunately unnamed in the documentary that I watched and I 00:22:03.350 --> 00:22:06.720 just thought this was kind of a cute sentiment because they were making things 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:09.960 up. They weren't - they weren't the experts in the room. They didn't know what 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:15.330 they couldn't do. So they just basically managed to mess around with stuff and 00:22:15.330 --> 00:22:19.179 ended up with something really special and really cool and something that was just 00:22:19.179 --> 00:22:24.260 iconic. You know, some of the biggest electronic music acts in the world today, 00:22:24.260 --> 00:22:29.101 still say that the work at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop was one of the big 00:22:29.101 --> 00:22:37.040 influences in life as well. So. So, yeah, that's the BBC Radiophonic Workshop. And I 00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:41.571 think it's very important that we allow for ridiculousness in technology and we 00:22:41.571 --> 00:22:48.240 allow for ugly noises and we allow for stupid things that don't fully - you don't 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:54.620 really see what they're for. Like the power of them allowing for experimentation 00:22:54.620 --> 00:22:59.210 that isn't very successful at first or doesn't sound successful. The idea is 00:22:59.210 --> 00:23:07.100 really important. Yeah. So outsiders, hooray. That was a golden age. We've got 00:23:07.100 --> 00:23:12.419 the invention of a new technology and what resulted in democratization. You know, the 00:23:12.419 --> 00:23:18.309 availability of a new technology to a reasonable number of people led to this 00:23:18.309 --> 00:23:23.429 uhm to this amazing sea change in the way that people made music, made digital music 00:23:23.429 --> 00:23:27.960 and analog back then. But, you know, the way that we make music was changed by 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:34.050 these experimenters. It was definitely a golden age for - for new techniques. But I 00:23:34.050 --> 00:23:37.840 think that we're currently in a golden age for people who are working with 00:23:37.840 --> 00:23:45.990 experimental instruments and experimental sound in general. And I think that we. So 00:23:45.990 --> 00:23:49.200 we've got loads and loads of really exciting new technologies that are 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:53.640 available. We've got cheap microcontrollers. We've we can make our 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:58.260 own PCBs. We can make our own synthesizers. We can access people, which 00:23:58.260 --> 00:24:02.160 is which is really crucial. I mean, think about Daphne. She didn't learn about 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:06.270 musique concrète and she didn't find the BBC Radiophonic Workshop until she had a 00:24:06.270 --> 00:24:10.950 spark of an idea from somebody else. So really, it is learning tools, learning 00:24:10.950 --> 00:24:15.970 type, you know, gaining access to tools, learning new techniques and learning and 00:24:15.970 --> 00:24:20.410 being inspired by other people is really, really critical for anything to to really 00:24:20.410 --> 00:24:24.360 change and to really and to happen. But I think that at the moment we've been 00:24:24.360 --> 00:24:27.950 really, really cool, accessible new technologies that more and more people are 00:24:27.950 --> 00:24:34.020 learning how to use and more and more are becoming much simpler as well. And and 00:24:34.020 --> 00:24:37.970 crucially, people are more accessible. So people share, particularly in our 00:24:37.970 --> 00:24:42.659 community, people share their knowledge and very freely. And you don't have to be 00:24:42.659 --> 00:24:44.659 in the same room to do this. I know a bunch of people are listening on the 00:24:44.659 --> 00:24:49.750 livestream right now. So you don't have to be here to learn about things. 00:24:49.750 --> 00:24:54.840 And you don't have to be in the room to lend it - to attend a workshop with 00:24:54.840 --> 00:24:58.909 somebody. Right. There's these wonderful YouTube tutorials now for sharing 00:24:58.909 --> 00:25:03.700 information. Niche communities are just way more accessible through online places. 00:25:03.700 --> 00:25:11.120 And we've got an incredible community and abundance as well. So this is I mean, I 00:25:11.120 --> 00:25:14.409 shouldn't have put this slide in here but it doesn't matter. Uhm so this is this is 00:25:14.409 --> 00:25:19.679 one of my old hacker spaces. It's Machines Room. In uhm in London. And it was where - 00:25:19.679 --> 00:25:23.669 where the music, technology, one of the places where the music tech community in 00:25:23.669 --> 00:25:29.470 London was centered. And they did some, it was there on the London hackerspace, but 00:25:29.470 --> 00:25:34.530 we did a lot of things. But there's a community called the hackoustic that I was 00:25:34.530 --> 00:25:38.900 involved with. And we used to do a lot of events there. I'm saying that the reason I 00:25:38.900 --> 00:25:43.230 put this slide down was just just to show that hacker spaces and maker spaces often 00:25:43.230 --> 00:25:47.549 have some kind of music technology partnerships and those kind of central 00:25:47.549 --> 00:25:51.450 spaces where you can share things and share knowledge and get inspired by each 00:25:51.450 --> 00:25:55.080 other's work and also hold events is really, really crucial. Actually, I do 00:25:55.080 --> 00:26:01.070 know why I put this slide in. So, so this slide the - this this was a wonderful 00:26:01.070 --> 00:26:07.120 space for uhm for three years. And then the landlord raised the rent four times 00:26:07.120 --> 00:26:15.010 and this amazing community of artists and designers and music hackers was removed, 00:26:15.010 --> 00:26:19.169 and at the same time, the London hackspace moved from central London to west London 00:26:19.169 --> 00:26:23.070 and a bunch of other hacker spaces and fab labs closed as well just because of how 00:26:23.070 --> 00:26:29.309 expensive the center of London had had become. And there's just as a direct 00:26:29.309 --> 00:26:33.679 result of that, I moved to Berlin. So like this is there by, by, uhm by allowing this 00:26:33.679 --> 00:26:37.830 kind of gentrification of our hackerspaces we actually do destroy community as much 00:26:37.830 --> 00:26:44.980 as we can create community online as well. Like this. So this is uhm this is an 00:26:44.980 --> 00:26:49.370 example of awesome online community. This is, um, YouTube uhm video from someone 00:26:49.370 --> 00:26:53.179 from the London music tech hacker scene and probably the most famous person from 00:26:53.179 --> 00:26:57.640 it. And it's a guy called Sam who goes by "Look Mum No Computer" on the Internet. 00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:01.980 And he he's an electronic engineer and general purpose weirdo. Which is why I 00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:07.549 like him. And this is one of his creations. He made a Furby synth, which is 00:27:07.549 --> 00:27:13.570 as horrific as you imagine, if not more so. So don't look that up. I mean, do look 00:27:13.570 --> 00:27:18.200 that up. But it is genuinely be prepared to not have a nice time. But he doesn't 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.080 just show his instruments. He doesn't just perform with them. He he does really 00:27:22.080 --> 00:27:25.640 awesome electronics teardowns as well. So I've learned a bunch of stuff from 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:30.500 watching his videos and looking at actually how he's done them. And that's 00:27:30.500 --> 00:27:34.409 something that's really exciting. I mean, like maybe 20 years ago, I wouldn't have 00:27:34.409 --> 00:27:36.960 had access to this kind of knowledge. I just would have I probably wouldn't have 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.630 even known that I like this kind of stuff, you know, wouldn't have been exposed to 00:27:40.630 --> 00:27:43.820 it. And then I certainly wouldn't... You know, I've been going down my my local pub 00:27:43.820 --> 00:27:49.011 saying, hey, he wants to work on, uh, on a weird Furby instrument with me. And they'd 00:27:49.011 --> 00:27:54.010 be like, well, no. So it's kind of nice to be able to show your weird passions with 00:27:54.010 --> 00:27:58.240 the people on the Internet. And then, of course, we have, we're at one of these. 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.809 This is me and my friend Phoenix. We've done a fair bit of music tech hacking 00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:08.830 together. And this is actually the British version of Congress, EMF camp. I guess 00:28:08.830 --> 00:28:12.440 it's the version of Chaos camp, actually. But so yeah, EMF camp, which is actually 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:17.360 in 2020 this year. It's a yes. It's really cool small hacker festival or but these 00:28:17.360 --> 00:28:22.419 kind of spaces and these kind of events really allow. I mean, I've learned so much 00:28:22.419 --> 00:28:27.559 just by being here the last couple of days. And every time we do this, we should 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:32.400 cherish and we should cherish the hacker spaces and the events. And we should also 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.991 support people like Sam, who makes his living through Patreon and on YouTube, you 00:28:35.991 --> 00:28:41.130 know, so by supporting maker spaces and events and also by supporting individual 00:28:41.130 --> 00:28:45.560 people who are putting the effort in to create and share work, I think and we can 00:28:45.560 --> 00:28:52.419 cherish this community. OK. Onto the final bit. I'm going to show you some - some of 00:28:52.419 --> 00:28:58.270 the cool projects that I've been working on with other people. But the reason I've 00:28:58.270 --> 00:29:03.190 chosen the ones that I'm showing you is because they are also using some of my 00:29:03.190 --> 00:29:08.220 favorite ways that you can hack on instruments. So I figured I'd show you a 00:29:08.220 --> 00:29:13.010 project, but also show you how to make, you know, how you can have a go at it. So 00:29:13.010 --> 00:29:18.500 recently I've lived in London and Berlin, and one of my favorite things to do is 00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:24.460 when I'm in a space is to make an instrument in the context of two people's 00:29:24.460 --> 00:29:29.169 work, two or more people's work. I always find like my work is always way better if 00:29:29.169 --> 00:29:34.730 I'm collaborating with somebody else. So you know what they do and what I do 00:29:34.730 --> 00:29:38.340 smushed together to create something that's better than either of us could have 00:29:38.340 --> 00:29:43.620 done on our own. And I think this is a good example if it will play and this is 00:29:43.620 --> 00:29:46.320 one of my first sonic soul circuits sculpture creatures. 00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:51.950 plucking sounds This started off as a hack just overnight 00:29:51.950 --> 00:30:00.789 hack with my composer friend Andrew Hockey and Drew Fustini from Oshpark and myself, 00:30:00.789 --> 00:30:05.000 obviously, and we worked together overnight to create this. This is a 00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:09.240 circuit sculpture. If you don't know what a circuit sculpture is, it's basically uhm 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:14.039 instead of putting your circuit inside of a box, all of the parts or the key parts 00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:20.300 of it are shown and are actually celebrated as art in their own light. And 00:30:20.300 --> 00:30:23.299 so that's what a circuit sculpture is. And there's a couple of wonderful people and 00:30:23.299 --> 00:30:29.240 there is this guy called Mohit(?) who makes really beautiful things. He's living 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:34.940 in San Francisco. And then this guy called Giri(?), who is in Prague, I want to say. 00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:41.610 And they make really, really awesome, tiny, neat things. But I I'm not tiny and 00:30:41.610 --> 00:30:46.529 neat, so I make big, massive and messy things. So this is the first one I made. 00:30:46.529 --> 00:30:50.140 It was really interesting to me. I really like capacitive touch as a technology and 00:30:50.140 --> 00:30:55.880 it's can be unreliable, but I find it kind of really fun to work with. And it's very 00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:01.809 intuitive for a musician. And then that led to me developing a second creature. 00:31:01.809 --> 00:31:07.750 And I'm really inspired by kind of utopian science fiction. And I wanted to make a 00:31:07.750 --> 00:31:12.470 series of creatures that inhabited the same world and sung when you touch them. 00:31:12.470 --> 00:31:17.169 So this was the second in the series. This is a more traditional instrument. I mean, 00:31:17.169 --> 00:31:20.710 obviously, it's still weird. It's more traditional in the - past one, the second 00:31:20.710 --> 00:31:27.130 one, the first one was generative in some way, like semi generative. And this one is 00:31:27.130 --> 00:31:31.450 more like one note per limb with two modes of modulation. This is a bass. 00:31:31.450 --> 00:31:45.740 synth bass sound playing "wobb wobb wobb". 00:31:45.740 --> 00:31:58.780 Helen chuckles So that's my base creature, which I'm 00:31:58.780 --> 00:32:03.549 actually developing for a real musician now and a woman, amazing bassist called 00:32:03.549 --> 00:32:07.220 Ayse Hassan who is the basis for the Savages and just was on tour with the 00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:13.169 Pixies and I'm going to - I'm making her a stage presence one. And so she's going to 00:32:13.169 --> 00:32:16.770 be able to play it, but that's gonna be more generation based as well. But it's 00:32:16.770 --> 00:32:21.590 kind of interesting to to try and create something that in its functionality is 00:32:21.590 --> 00:32:27.899 very traditional, but in its form is really weird. And that's kind of fun to 00:32:27.899 --> 00:32:34.840 play with. But now my latest one is another creature. But this is kind of like 00:32:34.840 --> 00:32:41.039 an abstract sensicle pod. It's gonna be human sized. And each of the limbs will 00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.460 pay a different part of the choral arrangement. And then there's like some 00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:48.640 kind of like sunlight feature at the top where you can modulate it by touching the 00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:54.269 copper rods. I've actually made a prototype, which you can listen to. So 00:32:54.269 --> 00:32:58.390 this is this is the latest version of one of the limbs of the tentacle, which I made 00:32:58.390 --> 00:33:02.529 and it just made it for the form. But then everybody seems to really like cuddling 00:33:02.529 --> 00:33:07.580 it. It's very comforting. So I decided to make it purr after I'd finished 00:33:07.580 --> 00:33:12.529 prototyping. If you want to listen to my purring tentacle afterwards, you can. It 00:33:12.529 --> 00:33:17.850 does sometimes work, but I should say actually. Hello. So this is it. This is, 00:33:17.850 --> 00:33:21.769 um. This is machine embroidered conductive thread so that - that is able then to 00:33:21.769 --> 00:33:27.200 detect capacity. That's a capacitive touch sensor essentially - It's a sensicle. And 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.620 so yeah you can see that afterwards if you want. It mostly works. I made it yesterday 00:33:30.620 --> 00:33:38.269 so that's quite fine. But again, you know, I would not have been able to create the 00:33:38.269 --> 00:33:43.160 intricate sounds without the help of my composer friend, and I would not have been 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.470 able you know this and I would not been able to get the implementation that I 00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:51.299 wanted onto the beagleboard whithout erm, Drew. And so it's, it's, it's, it's really 00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:55.260 nice to kind of like sit together and mash up your mash up your skills. 00:33:55.260 --> 00:34:00.260 bottles falling over Now, these all use one of these and this 00:34:00.260 --> 00:34:07.389 is another one of my instruments. This is a wearable, flexible PCB, it's gonna be a 00:34:07.389 --> 00:34:12.090 vocoder, but it's not finished yet. But. But the reason I'm showing you that is 00:34:12.090 --> 00:34:17.040 because that's the sensor that I use. This is a they call it the trill. It's 00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:20.550 essentially like if anybody viewed any of you who used capacitive touch before, you 00:34:20.550 --> 00:34:27.760 probably used an MPR121 sensor. This is like an MPR121 sensor ++. It's much more.. 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:34.170 they've got... a) it's got like 20 something pins, which is wild and it's way 00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:38.260 more sensitive as well. So I find it really really great. So if anybody's doing 00:34:38.260 --> 00:34:41.030 stuff with cap touch and they're having some problems with it: a) make sure you 00:34:41.030 --> 00:34:45.500 ground it and b) have a go on that trail. It's like 10 euros. I think that, that 00:34:45.500 --> 00:34:49.980 sensor. And it is done by bela. You can see one of their boards there. Now I'm 00:34:49.980 --> 00:34:53.490 gonna do a whole slide about bela and Fan Girl about them because they're my 00:34:53.490 --> 00:34:59.170 favorite technology at the moment to use for embedded systems, for embedded 00:34:59.170 --> 00:35:02.760 instruments. And this is like the size, this is this big. It is based on the 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.020 pocket beagle, which is the size of a small Altoids tin. So it's very, very 00:35:07.020 --> 00:35:13.331 small. But it runs, it runs, it's a full Linux computer and is really, really 00:35:13.331 --> 00:35:16.950 awesome. Super, super responsive, super low latency, which is really important 00:35:16.950 --> 00:35:22.010 when you're creating instruments. But also the cool thing is it runs this. This is 00:35:22.010 --> 00:35:26.350 PureData. It's a visual programing language for sound creation. A lot of 00:35:26.350 --> 00:35:32.590 artists and sound designers and music creators, they use this already. You 00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:35.450 might. This is very similar to something called Max, actually made by the same guy. 00:35:35.450 --> 00:35:42.140 But this one's open source. Yeah. So and so that's bela and PureData. Definitely 00:35:42.140 --> 00:35:46.641 worth checking out if you're interested in instrument design. The reason the bela is 00:35:46.641 --> 00:35:51.830 special is because, because of the latency, but also because no other... So 00:35:51.830 --> 00:35:56.120 you can't get a microcontroller that will run PureData except for the Raspberry Pi 00:35:56.120 --> 00:36:01.190 does. But the latency on the Raspberry Pi is like meeh. So I would always suggest if 00:36:01.190 --> 00:36:08.850 you're doing something. The bela and PureData is a nice combo. OK. That's that 00:36:08.850 --> 00:36:13.870 one. Then the other project I wanted to talk to you briefly about is, is this is 00:36:13.870 --> 00:36:16.850 Ariana Grande, who you probably don't know who she is, but anyone under the age of 13 00:36:16.850 --> 00:36:19.790 certainly will. And here she is demoing and is called MI MU glove. 00:36:19.790 --> 00:36:21.160 music playing [talking over music] 00:36:21.160 --> 00:36:29.550 It's a gesture control. I say yes, gesture control. And she's controlling, she's 00:36:29.550 --> 00:36:36.750 doing looping. She's doing effects using gestures. Obviously, gestures, various 00:36:36.750 --> 00:36:39.750 gestures. Thank you, Ariana. music stops 00:36:39.750 --> 00:36:43.581 So that's that's the that's the. This is what she's using here. And this is coming 00:36:43.581 --> 00:36:49.420 out of London. About of the music tech company called MI MU, that was originated 00:36:49.420 --> 00:36:54.770 by Imogen Heap, if you know her. And I saw the Ariana video and something I didn't 00:36:54.770 --> 00:36:58.340 mention is I actually do quite a lot of teaching as well. And when I saw that 00:36:58.340 --> 00:37:01.731 Ariana video, I just thought I was like, oh, my God, if I showed this to a 12 year 00:37:01.731 --> 00:37:06.580 old girl and told them we could make one, they were going to lose their mind. So 00:37:06.580 --> 00:37:10.160 these cost like five grand, though. So I don't think I could get one of these in 00:37:10.160 --> 00:37:15.490 the classroom. So I just messaged Imogen and asked her if I could make a children's 00:37:15.490 --> 00:37:26.110 version. And so I did. She said yes. And she - we, this is this is a wonderful 00:37:26.110 --> 00:37:31.940 piece of technology called the micro:bit. And it's a DIY, it's like my first 00:37:31.940 --> 00:37:36.310 microcontroller that is made by the BBC. It's like 10 pounds. It's very, very 00:37:36.310 --> 00:37:41.620 cheap. It doesn't do a lot. But what it does, it does very well and very simply. 00:37:41.620 --> 00:37:49.070 And I was able to make an approximation of a five thousand dollar glove with a ten 00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:54.560 dollar microcontroller, which is nice. That's what the core of the product that I 00:37:54.560 --> 00:38:01.080 made is actually in. But. I haven't got the time to talk to you about that. That's 00:38:01.080 --> 00:38:04.090 my leather robot unicorn. I gesture control, but I can't tell you about that. 00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:07.350 This is another artist, got no time for that. So we're getting onto this last one. 00:38:07.350 --> 00:38:15.380 So basically I was able to - with one bridge, one micro:bit and a little bit of 00:38:15.380 --> 00:38:18.890 code to get it to work on professional music software. And this is a musician 00:38:18.890 --> 00:38:24.830 called Bishi who's really awesome and this is her using my ten dollar hack. 00:38:24.830 --> 00:38:28.560 music playing [talking over music] 00:38:28.560 --> 00:38:35.130 To do very similar things. To the 5000 dollar. And of course, that's not stadium 00:38:35.130 --> 00:38:40.810 level. Ariana claimed they couldn't use that on tour. But it's it was a fun 00:38:40.810 --> 00:38:45.620 project that we hacked together. music stops 00:38:45.620 --> 00:38:51.840 And that is that's my time. I have done all of it, by the way. All of this, how I 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:57.390 did that. And that's all on my GitHub. All of the code. If you've already got a 00:38:57.390 --> 00:39:02.000 micro:bit, you can do, you can do it yourself or you can get the kits for like 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.830 30 bucks. It's not very expensive. So all that's on my GitHub along with some weird 00:39:05.830 --> 00:39:10.720 factory signs of things. And you can follow along on on my weird electronic 00:39:10.720 --> 00:39:17.390 adventures on my Twitter. I'm pretty reactive. So say hi to me and I'll be 00:39:17.390 --> 00:39:21.150 hanging around here if you want to listen to my tentacle. So the end, okay. 00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:24.330 applause 00:39:24.330 --> 00:39:37.870 Herald: Helen Leigh, woo. Thank you, Helen, for his fantastic presentation. I'm 00:39:37.870 --> 00:39:43.370 wondering actually, how are we gonna play that thing there? What it's like. I had a 00:39:43.370 --> 00:39:49.460 questions here. No. Yes. Yes. Online, of course. They are far more, more speedy 00:39:49.460 --> 00:39:52.990 than we are. Shoot! Signal Angel: So the question from the 00:39:52.990 --> 00:39:59.290 Internet is: Have you ever considered creating music without human interaction? 00:39:59.290 --> 00:40:01.350 Helen: Yes. laughs 00:40:01.350 --> 00:40:08.110 Her: Okay then, next one. Hel: Thank you. Good night. No, I mean, 00:40:08.110 --> 00:40:13.810 I'm personally I'm a very tactile person and so I like creating instruments that 00:40:13.810 --> 00:40:22.470 you... that you stroke that are affectionate almost and kind. I like 00:40:22.470 --> 00:40:26.180 giving the things that I create some kind of persona and that you interact with 00:40:26.180 --> 00:40:29.520 them. However, a lot of people use... there's a lot people doing really 00:40:29.520 --> 00:40:35.320 interesting things with generative, non- human interactive art. In fact, the 00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:38.790 composer friend that I was talking about, Andrew Hockey, who's done a lovely... He's 00:40:38.790 --> 00:40:44.020 haked a musical marble run and that is just automated. I mean, when the marbles 00:40:44.020 --> 00:40:48.180 go down, the marble run. It will trigger generative signs, which is really, really 00:40:48.180 --> 00:40:53.570 cool. There's lots of people doing it. But for me personally, I just I know. I like. 00:40:53.570 --> 00:40:57.320 I like touching the objects that I make. You know, I'm the kind of strange person 00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.520 who walks around a craft store with a multimeter kind of like touching things 00:41:00.520 --> 00:41:04.040 and figuring out if they're conductive, like adequately conductive. 00:41:04.040 --> 00:41:08.230 Her: You're measuring out... Hel: Yeah. So for example, in fabric 00:41:08.230 --> 00:41:10.760 stores, there might be something that's conductive. That's not actually built as 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.480 conductive. Or I'll often go to art stores and craft stores or architectural supply 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:21.040 stores. And you can find you know, you don't have to go to Conrad. You can go to 00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:26.290 Modulor with your multimeter. If I just like you can, you know see if it's 00:41:26.290 --> 00:41:28.600 conductive or it's not. laughs 00:41:28.600 --> 00:41:34.000 Herold: We believe you. I'm just imagining you there. 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.760 Helen: Oh, yeah. No, it's... Herold: At a flea market. 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.650 Helen: I've had some strange looks. laughing 00:41:40.650 --> 00:41:44.780 Herold: That question here from number two please here in the front. 00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:50.180 Mic 2: Have you also created instruments that actually work with the physicality of 00:41:50.180 --> 00:41:58.010 the object that you have built instead of triggering some processing? 00:41:58.010 --> 00:42:06.740 Helen: So actually, you mean... Mic 2: Like what if the tentacle itself, 00:42:06.740 --> 00:42:11.400 the sound it produces would be amplified and somehow that, the base of the 00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:17.030 processing of the actual... Helen: Oh, you mean more acoustic. Yeah. 00:42:17.030 --> 00:42:20.970 Actually when the tentacle is done it will have some kind of physical feedback loop 00:42:20.970 --> 00:42:27.970 in it that will be reactive to its uhm, to its space, to its personal space even as 00:42:27.970 --> 00:42:30.870 well. So actually the cool thing about capacitive touch technology is if you get 00:42:30.870 --> 00:42:37.330 the thresholding right, you can not just sense touch. You can sense proximity and 00:42:37.330 --> 00:42:40.710 that kind of also very cool how many people are in the room as well. So you can 00:42:40.710 --> 00:42:45.210 get it to react quite... not uniformly, but you can get it to react quite nicely 00:42:45.210 --> 00:42:51.410 to its environment and also the way that people are manipulating it as 00:42:51.410 --> 00:42:54.650 well. And you can also code some cool things into that as well. So basically 00:42:54.650 --> 00:42:59.510 based on, you know, like the number of touches. How often people have played with 00:42:59.510 --> 00:43:03.500 it and, you know, and then and how people have played with it. And get that type of 00:43:03.500 --> 00:43:08.140 feedback in to the music that it's making in a generative fashion. There's lots of 00:43:08.140 --> 00:43:10.880 cool things that I want to do with this next sculpture. But yeah 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.430 laughs Mic 2: Thanks. 00:43:12.430 --> 00:43:19.570 Herold: I'm so sad. I really have to spoil it here. Really... we have to shut this now. 00:43:19.570 --> 00:43:26.760 And I would like you to ask do to talk to her personally. Here next to the stage. 00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:31.490 Thank you all for being here. Thank you. Thank you. And leave for this fantastic 00:43:31.490 --> 00:43:33.490 presentation on. 00:43:33.490 --> 00:43:34.490 applause 00:43:34.490 --> 00:43:35.490 36c3 postroll music 00:43:35.490 --> 00:44:00.000 Subtitles created by c3subtitles.de in the year 2021. Join, and help us!