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Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.80,0:00:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.81,0:00:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the mid 1970s, maybe a little earlier,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.68,0:00:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had done a sculptural\Npainting of a man,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.63,0:00:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a collector went to\Na gallery and bought the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.69,0:00:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.57,0:00:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to meet him,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.86,0:00:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the gallery didn't\Nwant me to meet him
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.55,0:01:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause Lynn could\Nbe either male or female.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.38,0:01:03.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somehow, he found out\NI was female
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.49,0:01:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he returned the work\Nbecause he said that women
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.47,0:01:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weren't good investments.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.13,0:01:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Women artists\Ndidn't make a good investment.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.85,0:01:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um, he was wrong.\N[laughs]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.15,0:01:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[calm electronic music]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.36,0:01:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did start out doing\Npainting and drawing.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.70,0:01:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then moved into sculpture.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.56,0:01:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then sculpture with sound.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.95,0:01:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- ...Trying to remember\Nwho we are.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.00,0:01:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Video,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.32,0:01:38.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, film, 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.41,0:01:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,artificial intelligence, 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.06,0:01:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and computer-based work.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.22,0:01:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, they're all the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.80,0:01:52.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you take a number of\Nthings and put them together.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.24,0:01:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.76,0:02:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do work that confronts where we are in society.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.14,0:02:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[sculpture whirs]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.37,0:02:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came to the Bay Area
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.64,0:02:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go to graduate school\Nat Berkeley.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.77,0:02:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[rock 'n' roll music]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.87,0:02:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the era of the hippies, Allen Ginsberg, and that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.19,0:02:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of radical thought.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.44,0:02:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And being a girl from Orthodox Jewish family in Cleveland,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.05,0:02:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was just really\Nopening your mind
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.58,0:02:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the fact that you don't\Nhave to do what you're told.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.35,0:02:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[calm jazz music]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.86,0:02:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that\Nthe early challenges
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.72,0:02:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were getting\Nsomebody to show my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.88,0:02:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember walking the streets of Berkeley during that time,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.74,0:02:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought, "Well, who needs\Na museum to tell you whether you're doing art?"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.52,0:02:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So with my friend Eleanor Coppola,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.26,0:02:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we opened up rooms in a hotel,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.16,0:02:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people could check-in at the desk, get a key
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.04,0:03:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eleanor staged in her room\Na man who lived there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.89,0:03:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I created fictional characters\Nwho might've lived there,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.22,0:03:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bought props from around that\Nneighborhood to redefine who those
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.96,0:03:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,characters could have been.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.56,0:03:19.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was a way of creating art\Nin the world
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.81,0:03:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that went beyond the walls that\Nexisted
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.94,0:03:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It lasted nearly a year,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.75,0:03:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally somebody,\Nwent at two in the morning.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.57,0:03:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had wax body parts\Nin there, 
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.62,0:03:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people thought that it could have \Nbeen a murder, and called the police.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.62,0:03:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The police came in\Nand took everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.98,0:03:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was the end of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.08,0:03:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glasses from the '70s.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.84,0:03:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [laughs]\N- Big lenses.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.12,0:03:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Here we go.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.79,0:04:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was in the room\Nat the Dante Hotel,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.28,0:04:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had artifacts of somebody who\Ncould have lived there
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.26,0:04:07.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought,\NWell, what if this woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.19,0:04:09.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this fictional character,\Ncould be liberated,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.71,0:04:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,live in real time\Nand real space?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.22,0:04:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was the beginning\Nof creating Roberta Breitmore.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.64,0:04:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I would go out\Nand dress as Roberta,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.64,0:04:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with different kinds of makeup as a\Nblonde
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.66,0:04:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with a lot of things about her that\Nwere very different from myself
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.79,0:04:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ambient music]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.08,0:04:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roberta did things broke that any single broke woman would do.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.85,0:04:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she came to San Francisco,\Nshe needed a roommate to afford her rent,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.28,0:04:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so she put\Nads in the local newspapers.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.17,0:04:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.32,0:04:50.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roberta went to a psychiatrist.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.18,0:04:53.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had a particular walk.\NShe had particular gestures.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.33,0:04:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had a language.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.95,0:04:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roberta was able to get a bank account.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.83,0:05:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.17,0:05:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was able to get credit\Ncards, which I couldn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.96,0:05:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.14,0:05:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was much more real, had more of \Na verifiable history than I did.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.26,0:05:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.06,0:05:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't think that Roberta would be a \Nlong-term performance.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.32,0:05:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't even think performance\Nwas a word in those days.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.51,0:05:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what she was.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.67,0:05:27.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was an intervention\Nin real life, in society.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.56,0:05:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she lasted almost ten years, \Nfrom 1972 to 1979.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.82,0:05:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.57,0:05:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[film projector whirring]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.83,0:05:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think if I had moved to New York
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.94,0:05:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become an artist as many people did,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.41,0:05:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would not do the work I do now.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.40,0:05:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But because I live in the Bay Area, \Nwhere you breathe technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.78,0:06:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the digital landscape here\Nhas changed the entire world.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.82,0:06:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not insignificant \Nthat television was invented here.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.19,0:06:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.50,0:06:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that we've become kind of a society of--of screens,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.60,0:06:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of different layers that keep\Nus from knowing the truth,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.01,0:06:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if the truth is, uh,\Nalmost unbearable,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.32,0:06:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too much for us to, uh\Nto deal with,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.98,0:06:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like our feelings.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.79,0:06:31.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we deal with things\Nthrough replication,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.59,0:06:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and through copying,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.96,0:06:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through screens, through simulation 
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.79,0:06:37.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through facsimiles and through, uh,  fiction
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.97,0:06:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and through faction.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.16,0:06:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[experimental \Nelectronic music]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.66,0:06:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that there is not a central\Nanswer to whether technology is utopian
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.58,0:06:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or dystopian I think it depends on\Nhumans and how they use it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.24,0:07:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[echoing chatter]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.04,0:07:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of my work\Nis interactive 
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.96,0:07:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that it implicates viewers\Ninto making choices.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.56,0:07:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Interactivity in these pieces meant\Ndealing with the possibilities in
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.88,0:07:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology that existed at the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.39,0:07:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when "Lorna" was made, I\Nused an interactive LaserDisc.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.57,0:07:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[water bubbling]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.60,0:07:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I was afraid of everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.34,0:07:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So you think\Nyou know her story.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.68,0:07:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, good luck.\N'Cause you're all wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.41,0:07:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lorna's agoraphobic, she's afraid to go out
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.30,0:07:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason she's afraid is because \Nmedia projects all kinds of images of fear.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.63,0:07:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all she does\Nis watch television.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.90,0:07:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.62,0:07:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you control what you see,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.74,0:07:58.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in doing so, you \Nbecome implicated in
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.17,0:08:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lorna's life and control her future
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.57,0:08:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[foreboding music]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.80,0:08:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you wanna put\Nthe hat down by the side?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.28,0:08:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, good.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.10,0:08:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you want me leaning\Nin any way, or just
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.76,0:08:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No.\NJust watching.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.42,0:08:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- In terms of drama, I'll just shoot something \N- Okay
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.50,0:08:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This work, "VertiGhost,"\Nuses, in fact,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.48,0:08:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much of my history.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.42,0:08:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That looks beautiful.\N- It looks more like it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.48,0:08:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The premise was to do something that had\Nto do with the Fine Arts Museum
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.70,0:09:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I I remember that Alfred Hitchcock\Nshot a major scene from "Vertigo" there.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.64,0:09:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the original film, the character\NMadeleine would go to the museum and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.54,0:09:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at the portrait of Carlotta who was\Na distant relative of hers, 
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.63,0:09:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had died and who \Nsuffered from mental illness
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.32,0:09:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.14,0:09:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Okay, Yuli, you can come.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.96,0:09:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.24,0:09:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, they're both\Nstories of compulsion
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.80,0:09:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about identity,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.21,0:09:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and copies,\Nand copies of copies,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.79,0:09:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not knowing who you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.63,0:09:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.48,0:09:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I'm gonna have you walk\Naround the bench
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.64,0:09:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sit exactly opposite\Nthan you are now.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.24,0:09:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.72,0:09:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in mine, it tells\Nkind of the haunting story
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.22,0:09:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that history.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.12,0:10:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And telling\Nthe history releases
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.58,0:10:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ghost that we keep hidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.25,0:10:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Camera, please.\NAnd action.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.20,0:10:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Putting the exhibition\Ntogether for "VertiGhost"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.14,0:10:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a total act of trust,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.99,0:10:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and improvising\Nwhat we would do
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.53,0:10:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Three and four.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.72,0:10:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like to collaborate.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.46,0:10:33.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have this joke in my studio that I'm\Nkind of like the idiot savant, 
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.67,0:10:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause I can't do anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.35,0:10:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I come with an idea,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.83,0:10:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then everybody else knows\Nhow to do certain parts of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.59,0:10:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And eventually it gets done.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.14,0:10:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [laughs]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.77,0:10:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So, um,\Nthis has been printed
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.21,0:10:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the back of this,\Nand it's Plexiglas.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.59,0:10:52.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we took the original image\Nof Carlotta 
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.19,0:10:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're gonna put the camera\Non the wall
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.00,0:10:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in back of the eyes
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.26,0:10:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it picks up anybody\Nwalking through the room.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.29,0:11:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Claudia] I'm sure it's gonna\Nbe quite startling.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.14,0:11:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's so bizarre.\N- It really is.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.08,0:11:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughs]
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.32,0:11:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [laughs]\NBut are you happy with it?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.25,0:11:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I am. Thank God.\N- Oh, good.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.25,0:11:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the most\Nimportant thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.45,0:11:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You know, you never know\Nif these things are gonna work.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.69,0:11:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[chuckles]
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.57,0:11:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.00,0:11:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the way it works. Somebody sits on the bench.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.34,0:11:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a bouquet of flowers that has sensors in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.83,0:11:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That turns the camera on in the painting
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.53,0:11:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The painting captures the\Nimage of the person who's looking at the painting
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.00,0:11:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,puts them in the 3D box to the de Young Museum which is at a different location
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.64,0:11:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is at\Na different location.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.00,0:12:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's in Golden Gate Park and inserts the\Nviewer there.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.38,0:12:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it kind of ties all of them together, almost like a double helix
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.59,0:12:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the two buildings.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.48,0:12:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.98,0:12:15.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that I'm asking\Nviewers to consider
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.15,0:12:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it real, what isn't real
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.12,0:12:20.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why we need to imitate something,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.60,0:12:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the credibility of the things around us.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.100,0:12:34.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪  ♪
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.90,0:12:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's great that finally my work\Nhas become part of a cultural history.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.33,0:12:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That finally I'm not in debt.\N[laughs]
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.46,0:12:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the first time ever.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.40,0:12:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I'm really lucky. I got a lot of\Nfreedom from being unknown,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.97,0:13:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I could do anything\NI wanted to.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.71,0:13:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now it's too late\Nto change.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.31,0:13:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughs]
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Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.52,0:13:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music]\Nart in the 21st century season 9 is
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