0:00:05.060,0:00:07.260 [Bed Stuy, Brooklyn] 0:00:08.119,0:00:09.120 [October 2013] 0:00:09.120,0:00:11.460 [ZACARIAS] Yeah, I think like, it needs to[br]be like that... 0:00:11.460,0:00:12.780 [Marela Zacarías, Artist] 0:00:12.780,0:00:17.360 Because we need it to come out to like here,[br]you know? 0:00:18.140,0:00:21.800 [New York Close Up] 0:00:22.880,0:00:24.081 Perfecto! 0:00:25.540,0:00:26.300 So let's get started! 0:00:26.300,0:00:28.040 ["Marela Zacarías Goes Big & Goes Home"] 0:00:32.299,0:00:34.240 We don’t want to cover the whole thing. 0:00:34.260,0:00:37.720 I guess the trick is just to barely, barely[br]touch it. 0:00:37.720,0:00:38.420 Because the more... 0:00:38.430,0:00:42.250 Like, if you push, it’s going to start changing[br]shape. 0:00:45.260,0:00:49.020 [Marela has been commissioned to make a piece[br]for the U.S. Consulate in Monterrey, Mexico.] 0:00:50.120,0:00:52.280 [It will be her largest sculpture to date.] 0:00:53.070,0:00:55.070 I painted murals for ten years. 0:00:55.070,0:00:58.870 And while making this work and being in the[br]community is wonderful, 0:00:58.870,0:01:02.949 there’s a part of it, of making public art,[br]that is a little constraining, 0:01:02.949,0:01:05.610 where the creative process only lasts 0:01:05.610,0:01:09.210 for the time that you’re making this little[br]mockup. 0:01:09.970,0:01:12.039 There was part me of that needed more, 0:01:12.039,0:01:17.099 that needed that moment of creating while[br]you're making. 0:01:18.360,0:01:23.420 Yeah this part of the process is pretty much[br]all instinct...instinctive. 0:01:23.420,0:01:28.340 I just try to find like pressure points and[br]tension in the mesh 0:01:28.340,0:01:31.120 and it kind of tells me where to go. 0:01:31.680,0:01:35.120 There’s twenty different pieces that come[br]together into one. 0:01:35.130,0:01:38.810 They all fit into each other...like a puzzle. 0:01:59.820,0:02:05.300 [January 2014] 0:02:33.340,0:02:35.760 My nature is very colorful. 0:02:35.760,0:02:38.820 You know, like I want to express color. 0:02:39.180,0:02:43.980 Once I choose colors I have to kind of record[br]what I’m doing. 0:02:43.980,0:02:47.260 I number all the colors that I use. 0:02:48.920,0:02:53.900 We’ve created our own kind of color numbers,[br]you know? 0:02:54.780,0:02:57.640 This piece actually has sixty-seven colors. 0:02:58.120,0:03:01.090 Part of it is very intuitive, the way that[br]I’m choosing colors, 0:03:01.090,0:03:04.500 but then I kind of have to put down a record[br]of those decisions. 0:03:04.500,0:03:06.620 I’m not that kind of personality 0:03:06.620,0:03:09.819 where I like to plan and I’m organized,[br]you know? 0:03:09.819,0:03:11.550 It’s something that I’ve had to learn. 0:03:12.020,0:03:13.680 This is 31, yeah? 0:03:13.680,0:03:16.180 And then this is 5. 0:03:18.360,0:03:21.580 This is 22. 0:03:22.140,0:03:24.540 Like I would probably just extend those lines, 0:03:24.540,0:03:26.060 like up to here. 0:03:26.060,0:03:26.800 Yeah. 0:03:28.020,0:03:30.420 [ROOPENIAN] So I’m just usually looking[br]at the map 0:03:30.430,0:03:32.200 and trying to get a point 0:03:32.200,0:03:35.190 where I can know generally what her intention[br]is 0:03:35.190,0:03:38.930 and not have to be back and forth with each[br]detail. 0:03:38.930,0:03:40.220 Because we live in Brooklyn 0:03:40.230,0:03:44.810 and we can’t have space that just lets us 0:03:44.810,0:03:46.569 put up what we want to see... 0:03:46.569,0:03:48.970 I never quite get to see it fully put together. 0:03:48.970,0:03:52.300 Marela's always got a secret in her back pocket, 0:03:52.300,0:03:54.580 which is the final piece. 0:03:58.240,0:04:03.160 [ZACARIAS] I’ve always felt the influence[br]of patterns from textiles. 0:04:04.040,0:04:08.900 The ways that color is being used in some[br]of these is sophisticated. 0:04:08.900,0:04:10.099 Like for example here, 0:04:10.099,0:04:13.620 you know, just the uses of pink with this 0:04:13.620,0:04:17.600 kind of earthy red and then a little yellow. 0:04:17.600,0:04:21.079 And it’s you know kind of unpredictable[br]and exciting. 0:04:21.089,0:04:26.270 That’s sort of something that I look to[br]do in my own work. 0:04:26.940,0:04:30.220 Oh this is mom, with me, in Mexico. 0:04:30.230,0:04:32.280 My mom is an anthropologist. 0:04:32.280,0:04:38.380 So she actually led, like, the research on[br]this project. 0:04:39.020,0:04:41.919 These ancient cultures used their clothing 0:04:41.919,0:04:44.290 as a way to show their relationship 0:04:44.290,0:04:47.700 to their universe, to the earth, to their[br]community. 0:04:47.700,0:04:49.010 And the amazing thing is that 0:04:49.010,0:04:52.380 a lot of these symbols from the Mayan era 0:04:52.380,0:04:53.860 are still being used today. 0:04:53.860,0:04:56.530 So there's some kind of a cultural resistance 0:04:56.530,0:04:59.430 that happened through this clothing. 0:05:00.720,0:05:03.020 [PEW] Marela, you know, has lived half of[br]her life, 0:05:03.020,0:05:04.410 or over half of her life now, 0:05:04.410,0:05:07.510 in the U.S. even though she's from Mexico,[br]so... 0:05:07.510,0:05:09.630 There's a beautiful aspect that it is, kind[br]of, 0:05:09.630,0:05:12.250 the return of her gifts back to, kind of,[br]her home, 0:05:12.250,0:05:13.370 the homeland-- 0:05:14.220,0:05:17.940 even though it will be the U.S. consulate,[br]but... 0:05:17.940,0:05:19.080 [LAUGHS] 0:05:20.380,0:05:22.140 [ZACARIAS] And this 36. 0:05:23.620,0:05:24.840 [PEW] All that’s really left here... 0:05:24.850,0:05:26.330 I mean, the colors and patterns, obviously, 0:05:26.330,0:05:27.820 are really shaping up here now 0:05:27.820,0:05:31.680 and just to kind of dial in on some last taping[br]and designs there 0:05:31.680,0:05:33.940 and then we’re going to be pretty much done. 0:05:33.940,0:05:37.080 [February 2014] 0:05:37.320,0:05:40.340 This is usually, you know... 0:05:40.340,0:05:43.160 It's like two or three all-nighters. 0:05:43.169,0:05:46.529 Tearing out hair and biting nails. 0:05:51.730,0:05:53.730 So yeah, the next month, 0:05:53.730,0:05:59.150 Saturday night we have a baby shower for this[br]piece. 0:06:00.340,0:06:03.340 And then the piece leaves on Tuesday. 0:06:03.740,0:06:05.680 There’s a truck involved 0:06:05.680,0:06:08.100 and then there’s a plane involved at some[br]point. 0:06:08.420,0:06:10.080 And then it lands in Mexico. 0:06:12.260,0:06:15.000 [Monterrey, Mexico] 0:06:15.000,0:06:18.040 [June 2014] 0:06:21.140,0:06:25.160 [U.S. Consulate General Monterrey] 0:06:27.080,0:06:30.140 [Marela is showing her work in Mexico for the first time.] 0:06:30.560,0:06:32.760 [ZACARIAS] Thinking back to when I was sixteen 0:06:32.770,0:06:34.350 and was coming to the States, 0:06:34.350,0:06:37.490 I was really interested in the Mexican muralists. 0:06:37.490,0:06:39.600 They were able to paint the history of Mexico 0:06:39.600,0:06:42.260 in these very important buildings. 0:06:42.260,0:06:44.420 Even though the politics have changed so much, 0:06:44.420,0:06:45.960 you can still go to the National Palace 0:06:45.960,0:06:49.530 and see the story of colonization and the[br]Revolution. 0:06:49.530,0:06:54.169 It was kind of crazy that that this opportunity[br]came 0:06:54.169,0:06:57.050 for me to do it in a place that is also 0:06:57.050,0:06:59.570 a building that is going to be there for a long time 0:06:59.570,0:07:02.889 and that has these connotations of history. 0:07:02.889,0:07:06.630 The piece can live for a long time. 0:07:23.900,0:07:27.060 [Jorge Herrera Lavín, Father] 0:07:27.380,0:07:29.380 [LAVIN, IN SPANISH] This is fabulous. 0:07:29.380,0:07:34.640 It’s like, in a space so strict and full[br]of rules... 0:07:36.020,0:07:40.340 it's like, this gives it a little flexibility. 0:07:40.340,0:07:41.760 I don’t know. 0:07:41.760,0:07:46.900 It's like it reduces and tempers the rigid[br]protocols. 0:07:48.480,0:07:51.580 [ZACARIAS] I mean, there’s so many problems[br]with the immigration system today. 0:07:51.580,0:07:54.900 The relationship between these two countries-- 0:07:54.900,0:07:57.550 the way that undocumented workers are treated, 0:07:57.550,0:08:00.050 the way that people are being deported. 0:08:00.050,0:08:03.789 And yet, there’s stories of people who come[br]here and, 0:08:03.789,0:08:06.180 like me, are now able to make art. 0:08:06.180,0:08:07.990 I mean, I’ve been very lucky. 0:08:07.990,0:08:09.610 So, for me to do this piece, 0:08:09.610,0:08:13.190 it was like really meeting myself 0:08:13.190,0:08:15.259 kind of in the middle of it. 0:08:15.259,0:08:17.699 I want to connect to the people that are,[br]like, 0:08:17.699,0:08:19.039 going through this transition. 0:08:19.039,0:08:21.490 You’re changing when you’re going through[br]the consulate, 0:08:21.490,0:08:23.949 not just because you’re getting a visa or[br]a green card, 0:08:23.949,0:08:25.470 but your life is changing. 0:08:25.470,0:08:28.509 I know that there’s part of me that has[br]gone through this 0:08:28.509,0:08:30.509 that wants to give something to the people 0:08:30.509,0:08:33.969 who are going through that change.