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[KATY GRANNAN]
I think often there might be a perception
that the artist is the author,

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when in fact it is so much more collaborative--

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when in fact people have very strong ideas.

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In particular, when I met Nicole
and started photographing Nicole,

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she was the most fun,
the most challenging.

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At one point we'd been
photographing for a while--

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we're very close--

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and she said, "You know..."

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"I just think your pictures are
a little weird, a little boring."

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"Can we make some real pictures?"

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And I said, "Well, yeah!"

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"I'll just lock off the frame,
and do whatever you want."

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She got naked and was imitating
these provocative poses,

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but then almost doing violence to them.

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There was a desire to have some of that glamour--
or sex appeal or whatever--

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and then she rejected it at the same time.

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I thought, this is closer to what I feel as
a woman.