[KATY GRANNAN] I think often there might be a perception that the artist is the author,
when in fact it is so much more collaborative--
when in fact people have very strong ideas.
In particular, when I met Nicole and started photographing Nicole,
she was the most fun, the most challenging.
At one point we'd been photographing for a while--
we're very close--
and she said, "You know..."
"I just think your pictures are a little weird, a little boring."
"Can we make some real pictures?"
And I said, "Well, yeah!"
"I'll just lock off the frame, and do whatever you want."
She got naked and was imitating these provocative poses,
but then almost doing violence to them.
There was a desire to have some of that glamour-- or sex appeal or whatever--
and then she rejected it at the same time.
I thought, this is closer to what I feel as a woman.