0:00:02.540,0:00:07.880 [KATY GRANNAN][br]I think often there might be a perception[br]that the artist is the author, 0:00:08.320,0:00:11.360 when in fact it is so much more collaborative-- 0:00:11.360,0:00:14.640 when in fact people have very strong ideas. 0:00:19.620,0:00:23.980 In particular, when I met Nicole[br]and started photographing Nicole, 0:00:23.980,0:00:27.780 she was the most fun,[br]the most challenging. 0:00:31.800,0:00:34.519 At one point we'd been[br]photographing for a while-- 0:00:34.519,0:00:35.519 we're very close-- 0:00:35.520,0:00:36.560 and she said, "You know..." 0:00:37.380,0:00:41.920 "I just think your pictures are[br]a little weird, a little boring." 0:00:41.929,0:00:43.440 "Can we make some real pictures?" 0:00:43.440,0:00:45.440 And I said, "Well, yeah!" 0:00:47.340,0:00:51.460 "I'll just lock off the frame,[br]and do whatever you want." 0:00:58.080,0:01:03.190 She got naked and was imitating[br]these provocative poses, 0:01:03.190,0:01:05.460 but then almost doing violence to them. 0:01:08.420,0:01:14.840 There was a desire to have some of that glamour--[br]or sex appeal or whatever-- 0:01:14.840,0:01:17.780 and then she rejected it at the same time. 0:01:17.780,0:01:23.240 I thought, this is closer to what I feel as[br]a woman.