1 00:00:00,952 --> 00:00:02,341 Hi. 2 00:00:02,793 --> 00:00:05,183 You might have noticed that I have half a beard. 3 00:00:05,603 --> 00:00:07,746 It's not because I lost a bet. 4 00:00:07,770 --> 00:00:10,723 Many years ago, I was badly burned. 5 00:00:10,747 --> 00:00:12,810 Most of my body is covered with scars, 6 00:00:12,834 --> 00:00:14,682 including the right side of my face. 7 00:00:14,706 --> 00:00:17,474 I just don't have hair. That's just how it happened. 8 00:00:17,498 --> 00:00:19,865 It looks symmetrical, but almost. 9 00:00:19,889 --> 00:00:22,976 Anyway, now that we discussed facial hair, 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,878 let's move to social science. 11 00:00:25,902 --> 00:00:32,143 And in particular, I want us to think about where is the potential for humanity 12 00:00:32,167 --> 00:00:33,465 and where we are now. 13 00:00:33,879 --> 00:00:35,957 And if you think about it, there's a big gap 14 00:00:35,981 --> 00:00:38,503 between where we think we could be and where we are, 15 00:00:38,527 --> 00:00:40,648 and it's in all kinds of areas. 16 00:00:40,672 --> 00:00:42,743 So let me ask you: 17 00:00:42,767 --> 00:00:46,818 How many of you in the last month have eaten more than you think you should? 18 00:00:46,842 --> 00:00:48,850 Just kind of general. OK. 19 00:00:48,874 --> 00:00:53,336 How many of you in the last month have exercised less than you think you should? 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,299 OK, and for how many of you has raising your hands twice 21 00:00:56,323 --> 00:00:58,263 been the most exercise you got today? 22 00:00:58,287 --> 00:01:00,609 (Laughter) 23 00:01:01,539 --> 00:01:05,308 How many of you have ever texted while driving? 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,556 OK, we're getting honest. Let's test your honesty. 25 00:01:09,580 --> 00:01:11,582 How many people here in the last month 26 00:01:11,606 --> 00:01:14,492 have not always washed your hands when you left the bathroom? 27 00:01:14,516 --> 00:01:16,154 (Laughter) 28 00:01:16,178 --> 00:01:17,352 A little less honest. 29 00:01:17,376 --> 00:01:21,003 By the way, it's interesting how we're willing to admit texting and driving 30 00:01:21,027 --> 00:01:23,076 but not washing our hands, that's difficult. 31 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:24,800 (Laughter) 32 00:01:25,389 --> 00:01:26,666 We can go on and on. 33 00:01:26,690 --> 00:01:29,453 The problem, the topic is that there's lots of things 34 00:01:29,477 --> 00:01:31,521 when we know what we could do -- 35 00:01:31,545 --> 00:01:35,185 we could be very, very different, but we're acting in a very different way. 36 00:01:35,209 --> 00:01:37,462 And when we think how do we bridge that gap, 37 00:01:37,486 --> 00:01:40,571 the usual answer is, "Just tell people." 38 00:01:40,595 --> 00:01:43,803 For example, just tell people that texting and driving is dangerous. 39 00:01:43,827 --> 00:01:46,367 Did you know it's dangerous? You should stop doing it. 40 00:01:46,391 --> 00:01:49,182 You tell people something is dangerous, and they will stop. 41 00:01:49,206 --> 00:01:50,892 Texting and driving is one example. 42 00:01:50,916 --> 00:01:53,144 Another very sad example is that in the US, 43 00:01:53,168 --> 00:01:56,652 we spend between seven and eight hundred million dollars a year 44 00:01:56,676 --> 00:01:58,698 on what's called "financial literacy." 45 00:01:59,237 --> 00:02:01,697 And what do we get as a consequence of that? 46 00:02:01,721 --> 00:02:05,820 There was recently a study that looked at all the research ever to be conducted 47 00:02:05,844 --> 00:02:08,638 on financial literacy -- what's called a meta-analysis. 48 00:02:08,662 --> 00:02:11,474 And what they found is that when you tell people, 49 00:02:11,498 --> 00:02:13,412 you teach them financial literacy, 50 00:02:13,436 --> 00:02:15,823 they learn and they remember. 51 00:02:15,847 --> 00:02:18,830 But do people execute? Not so much. 52 00:02:18,854 --> 00:02:21,103 The improvement is about three or four percent 53 00:02:21,127 --> 00:02:22,988 immediately after the course, 54 00:02:23,012 --> 00:02:24,678 and then it goes down. 55 00:02:24,702 --> 00:02:26,409 And at the end of the day, 56 00:02:26,433 --> 00:02:30,092 the improvement is about 0.1 percent -- 57 00:02:30,116 --> 00:02:33,588 not zero, but as humanly close to zero as possible. 58 00:02:33,612 --> 00:02:35,910 (Laughter) 59 00:02:36,494 --> 00:02:37,665 So that's the sad news. 60 00:02:37,689 --> 00:02:40,242 The sad news is, giving information to people 61 00:02:40,266 --> 00:02:42,625 is just not a good recipe to change behavior. 62 00:02:43,024 --> 00:02:44,183 What is? 63 00:02:44,207 --> 00:02:47,060 Well, social science has made lots of strides, 64 00:02:47,084 --> 00:02:50,787 and the basic insight is that if we want to change behavior, 65 00:02:50,811 --> 00:02:52,546 we have to change the environment. 66 00:02:53,232 --> 00:02:56,621 The right way is not to change people, it's to change the environment. 67 00:02:56,645 --> 00:03:00,173 And I want to present a very simpleminded model of how to think about it: 68 00:03:00,197 --> 00:03:02,219 it's to think about behavioral change 69 00:03:02,243 --> 00:03:05,299 in the same way that we think about sending a rocket to space. 70 00:03:05,762 --> 00:03:08,166 When we think about sending a rocket to space, 71 00:03:08,190 --> 00:03:09,636 we want to do two main things. 72 00:03:09,660 --> 00:03:12,117 The first one is to reduce friction. 73 00:03:12,141 --> 00:03:15,291 We want to take the rocket and have as little friction as possible 74 00:03:15,315 --> 00:03:17,366 so it's the most aerodynamic possible. 75 00:03:17,390 --> 00:03:20,913 And the second thing is we want to load as much fuel as possible, 76 00:03:20,937 --> 00:03:24,921 to give it the most amount of motivation, energy to do its task. 77 00:03:25,461 --> 00:03:27,827 And behavior change is the same thing. 78 00:03:27,851 --> 00:03:30,226 So let's first talk about friction. 79 00:03:31,345 --> 00:03:34,275 In this particular case study I'll tell you about, 80 00:03:34,299 --> 00:03:37,462 there's a pharmacy, an online pharmacy. 81 00:03:37,486 --> 00:03:39,387 Imagine you go to your doctor. 82 00:03:39,411 --> 00:03:41,053 You have a long-term illness, 83 00:03:41,077 --> 00:03:43,914 your doctor prescribes to you a medication, 84 00:03:43,938 --> 00:03:46,232 you sign up for this online pharmacy 85 00:03:46,256 --> 00:03:49,145 and you get your medication in the mail every 90 days. 86 00:03:49,169 --> 00:03:51,669 Every 90 days, medication, medication, medication. 87 00:03:52,122 --> 00:03:55,792 And this online pharmacy wants to switch people 88 00:03:55,816 --> 00:03:58,446 from branded medication to generic medication. 89 00:03:59,176 --> 00:04:01,230 So they send people letters, and they say, 90 00:04:01,254 --> 00:04:03,558 "Please, please, please, switch to generics. 91 00:04:03,582 --> 00:04:07,009 You will save money, we will save money, your employer will save money." 92 00:04:07,033 --> 00:04:08,261 And what do people do? 93 00:04:08,657 --> 00:04:09,808 Nothing. 94 00:04:09,832 --> 00:04:12,310 So they try all kinds of things and nothing happens. 95 00:04:12,334 --> 00:04:15,426 So for one year, they give people an amazing offer. 96 00:04:15,450 --> 00:04:17,399 They send people a letter, and they say, 97 00:04:17,423 --> 00:04:21,117 "If you switch to generics now, it will be free for a whole year." 98 00:04:21,141 --> 00:04:22,648 Free for a whole year. Amazing! 99 00:04:23,179 --> 00:04:26,027 What percentage of people do you think switched? 100 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:28,466 Less than 10 percent. 101 00:04:29,104 --> 00:04:31,342 At this point, they show up to my office. 102 00:04:31,366 --> 00:04:32,815 And they come to complain. 103 00:04:33,711 --> 00:04:34,862 Why did they pick me? 104 00:04:34,886 --> 00:04:37,657 I wrote a couple of papers on the "allure of free." 105 00:04:37,681 --> 00:04:40,898 In those papers, we showed that if you reduce the price of something 106 00:04:40,922 --> 00:04:43,952 for, let's say, 10 cents to one cent, nothing much happens. 107 00:04:43,976 --> 00:04:46,892 You reduce it from one cent to zero, now people get excited. 108 00:04:46,916 --> 00:04:47,988 (Laughter) 109 00:04:48,012 --> 00:04:51,293 And they said, "Look, we read these papers on 'free,' we gave 'free.' 110 00:04:51,317 --> 00:04:52,625 Not working as we expected. 111 00:04:52,649 --> 00:04:53,878 What's going on?" 112 00:04:54,314 --> 00:04:57,063 I said, "You know, maybe it's a question of friction." 113 00:04:57,558 --> 00:04:59,042 They said, "What do you mean?" 114 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:01,098 I said, "People are starting with branded. 115 00:05:01,122 --> 00:05:03,479 They can do nothing and end with branded. 116 00:05:03,503 --> 00:05:07,170 To move to generic, they have to choose generic over branded, 117 00:05:07,194 --> 00:05:09,059 but they also have to do something. 118 00:05:09,083 --> 00:05:10,696 They have to return the letter." 119 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,330 So this is what we call a "confounded design." 120 00:05:13,354 --> 00:05:15,378 Two things are happening at the same time. 121 00:05:15,402 --> 00:05:17,089 It's branded versus generic, 122 00:05:17,113 --> 00:05:19,745 but it's doing nothing versus doing something. 123 00:05:20,206 --> 00:05:21,930 So I said, "Why don't we switch it? 124 00:05:22,417 --> 00:05:26,024 Why don't we send people a letter and say, 'We're switching you to generics. 125 00:05:26,048 --> 00:05:27,530 You don't need to do anything. 126 00:05:27,554 --> 00:05:30,632 If you want to stay with branded, please return the letter.'" 127 00:05:30,656 --> 00:05:31,810 (Laughter) 128 00:05:31,834 --> 00:05:33,045 Right? 129 00:05:33,490 --> 00:05:34,837 What do you think happened? 130 00:05:36,841 --> 00:05:38,389 Lawyers, lawyers happened. 131 00:05:38,413 --> 00:05:41,742 (Laughter) 132 00:05:44,017 --> 00:05:45,862 It turns out, this is illegal. 133 00:05:45,886 --> 00:05:49,284 (Laughter) 134 00:05:51,398 --> 00:05:54,346 By the way, for brainstorming and creativity, 135 00:05:54,370 --> 00:05:56,924 doing things that are illegal and immoral, it's fine, 136 00:05:56,948 --> 00:06:00,398 as long as it's just in the brainstorming phase. 137 00:06:00,422 --> 00:06:01,772 (Laughter) 138 00:06:01,796 --> 00:06:03,598 But this was the purity of the idea, 139 00:06:03,622 --> 00:06:07,621 because the initial design was the branded had the no-action benefit. 140 00:06:07,645 --> 00:06:11,960 In my illegal, immoral design, generic had the no-action benefit. 141 00:06:11,984 --> 00:06:14,852 But they agreed to give people a T-intersection: 142 00:06:14,876 --> 00:06:16,270 send people a letter and say, 143 00:06:16,294 --> 00:06:18,317 "If you don't return this letter, 144 00:06:18,341 --> 00:06:20,501 we will be forced to stop your medications. 145 00:06:21,083 --> 00:06:24,846 But when you return the letter, you could choose branded at this price, 146 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:26,202 generic at this price." 147 00:06:26,906 --> 00:06:28,822 Now people had to take an action. 148 00:06:28,846 --> 00:06:30,521 They were on even footing. Right? 149 00:06:30,545 --> 00:06:32,916 It wasn't that one had the no-action benefit. 150 00:06:32,940 --> 00:06:35,452 What percentage do you think switched? 151 00:06:36,278 --> 00:06:37,796 The vast majority switched. 152 00:06:38,208 --> 00:06:39,401 So what does it tell us? 153 00:06:39,425 --> 00:06:41,756 Do people like generics, or do we like branded? 154 00:06:42,434 --> 00:06:44,030 We hate returning letters. 155 00:06:44,054 --> 00:06:46,013 (Laughter) 156 00:06:46,037 --> 00:06:50,940 This is the story of friction: small things really matter. 157 00:06:50,964 --> 00:06:54,326 And friction is about taking the desired behavior 158 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:56,697 and saying: Where do we have too much friction 159 00:06:56,721 --> 00:06:59,294 so it's slowing people down from acting on it? 160 00:06:59,318 --> 00:07:01,610 And every time you see that the desired behavior 161 00:07:01,634 --> 00:07:03,496 and the easy behavior are not aligned, 162 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,052 it means we want to try and realign them. 163 00:07:06,509 --> 00:07:08,817 That's the first part. We talked about friction. 164 00:07:08,841 --> 00:07:10,513 Now let's talk about motivation. 165 00:07:10,878 --> 00:07:12,078 In this particular study, 166 00:07:12,102 --> 00:07:16,440 we were trying to get very poor people in a slum called Kibera in Kenya 167 00:07:16,464 --> 00:07:19,132 to save a little bit of money for a rainy day. 168 00:07:19,156 --> 00:07:22,073 You know, if you're very, very poor, you have no extra money, 169 00:07:22,097 --> 00:07:23,321 you live hand to mouth, 170 00:07:23,345 --> 00:07:25,662 and from time to time, bad things happen. 171 00:07:25,686 --> 00:07:30,037 And when something bad happens, you have nothing to draw on, you borrow. 172 00:07:30,061 --> 00:07:36,434 The Kibera people can borrow at sometimes up to 10 percent interest a week. 173 00:07:36,458 --> 00:07:39,067 And then, of course, it's really hard to get out of it. 174 00:07:39,091 --> 00:07:41,264 You live hand to mouth, something bad happens, 175 00:07:41,288 --> 00:07:44,054 you borrow, things get worse and worse and worse. 176 00:07:44,078 --> 00:07:47,435 So we wanted people to keep a little bit of money for a rainy day. 177 00:07:48,141 --> 00:07:50,707 And we thought about what is the motivation, 178 00:07:50,731 --> 00:07:53,050 what is the fuel that we need to add? 179 00:07:53,074 --> 00:07:54,865 And we tried all kinds of things. 180 00:07:55,373 --> 00:07:57,971 Some people, we texted them once a week and said, 181 00:07:57,995 --> 00:08:02,088 "Please try to save 100 shillings" -- about a dollar -- "this week." 182 00:08:02,571 --> 00:08:06,757 Some people, we sent a text message as if it came from their kids. 183 00:08:07,317 --> 00:08:10,724 So it said, "Hi Mom, hi Dad, this is little Joey" -- 184 00:08:10,748 --> 00:08:12,515 whatever the name of the kid was -- 185 00:08:12,539 --> 00:08:16,484 "Try and save 100 shillings this week for the future of our family." 186 00:08:16,508 --> 00:08:20,088 Right? I'm Jewish, a little bit of guilt always works. 187 00:08:20,112 --> 00:08:21,562 (Laughter) 188 00:08:21,586 --> 00:08:23,429 Some people got 10 percent. 189 00:08:23,453 --> 00:08:26,302 "Save up to a hundred shillings, we'll give you 10 percent." 190 00:08:26,326 --> 00:08:28,011 Some people got 20 percent. 191 00:08:28,035 --> 00:08:30,689 Some people got also 10 percent and 20 percent, 192 00:08:30,713 --> 00:08:32,986 but they got it with loss aversion. 193 00:08:33,010 --> 00:08:34,341 What is loss aversion? 194 00:08:34,365 --> 00:08:36,960 Loss aversion is the idea that we hate losing 195 00:08:36,984 --> 00:08:38,720 more than we enjoy gaining. 196 00:08:38,744 --> 00:08:41,471 Now, think about somebody who is in a 10-percent condition 197 00:08:41,495 --> 00:08:43,416 and they put 40 shillings in. 198 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,627 They put 40 shillings, we give them four more, 199 00:08:45,651 --> 00:08:47,103 they say thank you very much. 200 00:08:47,127 --> 00:08:48,857 That person gave up six. 201 00:08:48,881 --> 00:08:51,480 They could have gotten six more if they gave a hundred, 202 00:08:51,504 --> 00:08:53,088 but they don't see it. 203 00:08:53,112 --> 00:08:55,539 So we created what we call pre-match. 204 00:08:55,563 --> 00:08:58,228 We put the 10 shillings in at the beginning of the week. 205 00:08:58,252 --> 00:08:59,802 We said, "It's waiting for you!" 206 00:08:59,826 --> 00:09:02,792 And then if somebody puts 40 in, we say, "Oh, you put 40 in, 207 00:09:02,816 --> 00:09:05,407 we're leaving four, and we're taking six back." 208 00:09:05,431 --> 00:09:08,434 So in both cases, pre-match or post-match, 209 00:09:08,458 --> 00:09:10,156 people get 10 percent. 210 00:09:10,180 --> 00:09:11,624 But in the pre-match, 211 00:09:11,648 --> 00:09:14,741 they see the money they did not match leaving their account. 212 00:09:15,850 --> 00:09:18,772 So we have text, text from kids, 10 percent, 20 percent, 213 00:09:18,796 --> 00:09:20,383 pre-match, post-match. 214 00:09:20,407 --> 00:09:22,374 And we had one more condition. 215 00:09:22,398 --> 00:09:24,768 It was a coin about this size, 216 00:09:24,792 --> 00:09:26,845 with 24 numbers written on it. 217 00:09:27,472 --> 00:09:30,935 And we asked them to put the coin somewhere in their hut, 218 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:34,260 and every week, take a knife and scratch the number for that week -- 219 00:09:34,284 --> 00:09:36,388 week one, two, three, four -- 220 00:09:36,412 --> 00:09:38,911 scratch it like a minus if they didn't save 221 00:09:38,935 --> 00:09:41,193 and scratch it up and down if they saved. 222 00:09:41,788 --> 00:09:43,052 Now, think to yourself: 223 00:09:43,076 --> 00:09:46,396 Which one of those methods do you think worked the best? 224 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:48,791 Text, text from the kids, 10 percent, 20 percent, 225 00:09:48,815 --> 00:09:51,375 beginning of the week, end of the week, and the coin? 226 00:09:51,399 --> 00:09:53,504 I'll tell you what the average people think. 227 00:09:53,528 --> 00:09:55,515 We've done these studies of prediction, 228 00:09:55,539 --> 00:09:57,633 both in the US and in Kenya. 229 00:09:57,657 --> 00:10:00,601 People think that 20 percent will get a lot of action, 230 00:10:00,625 --> 00:10:01,867 10 percent less, 231 00:10:01,891 --> 00:10:03,727 the rest of it will do nothing -- 232 00:10:03,751 --> 00:10:06,476 kids, coin, doesn't matter. 233 00:10:07,048 --> 00:10:09,688 People think loss aversion will have a small effect. 234 00:10:10,677 --> 00:10:11,937 What actually happened? 235 00:10:12,861 --> 00:10:15,033 Sending a text reminder once a week 236 00:10:15,057 --> 00:10:16,266 helps a lot. 237 00:10:16,848 --> 00:10:18,006 Good news! 238 00:10:18,030 --> 00:10:21,629 This program lasted six months. People forget. Reminding people is great. 239 00:10:22,088 --> 00:10:25,033 Ten percent at the end of the week helped some more. 240 00:10:25,057 --> 00:10:26,455 Financial incentives work. 241 00:10:27,033 --> 00:10:31,033 Twenty percent at the end of the week -- just like 10 percent, no difference. 242 00:10:31,625 --> 00:10:33,582 Ten percent in the beginning of the week 243 00:10:33,606 --> 00:10:34,763 helps some more. 244 00:10:34,787 --> 00:10:35,985 Loss aversion works. 245 00:10:36,009 --> 00:10:38,080 Twenty percent in the beginning of the week, 246 00:10:38,104 --> 00:10:41,179 just like 10 percent in the beginning of the week, no difference. 247 00:10:41,203 --> 00:10:44,181 And the text message from the kids was just as effective 248 00:10:44,205 --> 00:10:47,419 as 20 percent plus loss aversion -- 249 00:10:47,443 --> 00:10:49,101 which is amazing, right? 250 00:10:49,125 --> 00:10:52,453 It's amazing how motivating messages from kids were. 251 00:10:52,477 --> 00:10:55,827 And one conclusion is we don't use kids enough. 252 00:10:55,851 --> 00:10:57,899 (Laughter) 253 00:10:57,923 --> 00:11:03,391 And, of course, I don't mean in a child labor sense. 254 00:11:04,065 --> 00:11:06,439 But if you think about parents and their kids, 255 00:11:06,463 --> 00:11:09,082 we are the best that we can for our kids, 256 00:11:09,106 --> 00:11:10,597 and we think about the future, 257 00:11:10,621 --> 00:11:12,101 and I think we should think 258 00:11:12,125 --> 00:11:15,236 about how to use that amazing source of motivation 259 00:11:15,260 --> 00:11:17,811 to get parents to behave in a better way. 260 00:11:18,847 --> 00:11:21,674 But the big surprise of this study was the coin. 261 00:11:21,698 --> 00:11:24,948 The coin basically doubled savings compared to everything else. 262 00:11:25,727 --> 00:11:28,409 And now the question is: Why? What was it about the coin? 263 00:11:29,046 --> 00:11:31,702 So I'll tell you how I started thinking about the coin, 264 00:11:31,726 --> 00:11:33,230 and then we'll come back to it. 265 00:11:33,254 --> 00:11:36,230 So you know, when I do research on, let's say, buying coffee, 266 00:11:36,254 --> 00:11:38,706 I don't need to go anywhere. I can sit in my office. 267 00:11:38,730 --> 00:11:40,943 I've bought enough coffee. I know how it works. 268 00:11:40,967 --> 00:11:42,903 The details, I'm familiar with. 269 00:11:42,927 --> 00:11:46,034 When you do research in some of the poorest places in the world, 270 00:11:46,058 --> 00:11:48,337 you have to go and visit and see what's going on 271 00:11:48,361 --> 00:11:50,947 and get some insight about how the system works. 272 00:11:51,589 --> 00:11:52,956 And on that particular day, 273 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:55,505 I'm in a place called Soweto in South Africa, 274 00:11:55,529 --> 00:11:59,152 and I'm sitting in a place that sells funeral insurance. 275 00:11:59,990 --> 00:12:03,878 You know, in the US people spend crazy amounts of money on weddings? 276 00:12:03,902 --> 00:12:05,909 In South Africa, it's funerals. 277 00:12:06,365 --> 00:12:11,349 People spend up to a year or two years of income on funerals. 278 00:12:11,912 --> 00:12:14,710 And I sit in this place -- 279 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:19,706 by the way, before you judge the South Africans as being irrational with this, 280 00:12:19,730 --> 00:12:20,930 I just want to remind you 281 00:12:20,954 --> 00:12:24,258 that spending a lot of money on funerals compared to weddings, 282 00:12:24,282 --> 00:12:26,789 at least you know for sure you only have one. 283 00:12:26,813 --> 00:12:29,856 (Laughter) 284 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:41,045 OK, so I sit in this place that sells funeral insurance. 285 00:12:41,069 --> 00:12:45,040 And this guy comes in with his son -- his son is about 12 -- 286 00:12:45,064 --> 00:12:48,323 and he buys funeral insurance for a week. 287 00:12:48,821 --> 00:12:51,451 It will cover 90 percent of his funeral expense 288 00:12:51,475 --> 00:12:53,631 only if he dies in the next seven days. 289 00:12:54,353 --> 00:12:57,658 Right? These are very poor people, they buy small amounts of insurance 290 00:12:57,682 --> 00:12:59,343 and small amount of soap and such. 291 00:12:59,367 --> 00:13:01,170 And he gets that certificate, 292 00:13:01,194 --> 00:13:03,864 and in a very ceremonious way, he gives it to his son. 293 00:13:04,456 --> 00:13:07,705 And as he gives it to his son, I think to myself, why the ceremony? 294 00:13:07,729 --> 00:13:09,257 What is this father doing? 295 00:13:09,281 --> 00:13:13,316 Now, think about the breadwinner that decides on that particular day 296 00:13:13,340 --> 00:13:15,760 to direct some money into insurance or savings. 297 00:13:16,587 --> 00:13:18,928 What is the family going to see tonight? 298 00:13:19,939 --> 00:13:21,509 They're going to see less. 299 00:13:21,533 --> 00:13:25,591 Right? At that level of poverty, there'll be less food, less kerosene, less water -- 300 00:13:25,615 --> 00:13:27,470 something less tonight. 301 00:13:27,494 --> 00:13:30,757 And what his father was doing and what our coin was trying to do 302 00:13:30,781 --> 00:13:33,349 is to say, yes, there's less food on the table, 303 00:13:33,373 --> 00:13:35,020 but there's another activity. 304 00:13:35,728 --> 00:13:39,518 You see, what happened is, there are many good, important economic activities, 305 00:13:39,542 --> 00:13:42,070 like savings and insurance, that are invisible. 306 00:13:42,620 --> 00:13:45,499 And now the question is: How do we make them visible? 307 00:13:46,105 --> 00:13:49,837 So let's go back to our rocket model. 308 00:13:50,373 --> 00:13:52,647 We have to, first of all, look at the system 309 00:13:52,671 --> 00:13:56,370 and see where there's little things we can fix, with friction, 310 00:13:56,394 --> 00:13:58,750 where is there that we can remove friction? 311 00:13:58,774 --> 00:14:02,626 And then the next thing we want to do is to think broadly about the system, 312 00:14:02,650 --> 00:14:06,033 and say: What other motivations can we bring in? 313 00:14:06,057 --> 00:14:08,079 And that's a much more difficult exercise, 314 00:14:08,103 --> 00:14:10,625 and we don't always know what would work best. 315 00:14:10,649 --> 00:14:13,341 Is it going to be money? Is it going to be loss aversion? 316 00:14:13,365 --> 00:14:15,444 Is it going to be something that is visible? 317 00:14:15,468 --> 00:14:18,094 We don't know, and we have to try different things. 318 00:14:18,118 --> 00:14:21,184 We also have to realize that our intuition sometimes misleads us. 319 00:14:21,208 --> 00:14:24,585 We don't always necessarily know what would work the best. 320 00:14:25,099 --> 00:14:26,977 So if we think about this gap 321 00:14:27,001 --> 00:14:29,185 between where we could be and where we are, 322 00:14:29,209 --> 00:14:32,938 it's a really sad thing to see this gap and to think about it. 323 00:14:32,962 --> 00:14:35,363 But the good news is, there's lots we can do. 324 00:14:35,904 --> 00:14:39,135 Some of the changes are easy, some of the changes are more complex. 325 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:41,816 But if we'll attack each problem directly, 326 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,312 not by just providing more information to people 327 00:14:45,336 --> 00:14:47,075 but trying to change the friction, 328 00:14:47,099 --> 00:14:48,369 add motivation, 329 00:14:48,393 --> 00:14:49,690 I think we can ... 330 00:14:49,714 --> 00:14:51,570 Can we close the gap? No. 331 00:14:51,594 --> 00:14:54,604 But can we get much better? Absolutely, yes. 332 00:14:54,628 --> 00:14:55,844 Thank you very much. 333 00:14:55,868 --> 00:14:59,628 (Applause)