1 00:00:06,387 --> 00:00:07,971 It's a real pleasure to be here 2 00:00:07,971 --> 00:00:10,648 and to present the work I've been doing 3 00:00:10,648 --> 00:00:15,957 over the last five years or so since my PhD. 4 00:00:15,957 --> 00:00:19,860 Genuinely, I want you to try and understand 5 00:00:19,860 --> 00:00:20,860 as much as you can 6 00:00:24,717 --> 00:00:24,967 So it's not the easiest material, 7 00:00:26,289 --> 00:00:26,741 And especially when you don't have a background in neuroscience. 8 00:00:32,709 --> 00:00:36,318 It's not always that easy to get a handle on these processes. 9 00:00:36,318 --> 00:00:41,169 But I'm going to do my absolute best 10 00:00:41,169 --> 00:00:42,211 to try and help you understand, and 11 00:00:42,211 --> 00:00:43,714 I'll provide some metaphors to try and 12 00:00:43,714 --> 00:00:46,387 break things down to make things more accessible. 13 00:00:46,387 --> 00:00:50,003 Also it would be useful to keep 14 00:00:50,003 --> 00:00:50,867 some pens out because there will be 15 00:00:50,867 --> 00:00:52,618 some references, so if you genuinely you do 16 00:00:52,618 --> 00:00:53,672 want to understand how these drugs 17 00:00:53,672 --> 00:00:55,459 work in the brain, then it does require 18 00:00:55,459 --> 00:00:57,785 a bit of work on your parts as well, unfortunately. 19 00:00:57,785 --> 00:00:58,979 So you'd have to go away and look up 20 00:00:58,979 --> 00:01:00,289 some of these references and do some 21 00:01:00,289 --> 00:01:02,367 background reading. 22 00:01:02,367 --> 00:01:04,470 So I just want to start by saying 23 00:01:04,470 --> 00:01:06,482 that this work is part of the 24 00:01:06,482 --> 00:01:10,031 Beckley-Imperial psychedelic research programme, 25 00:01:10,031 --> 00:01:12,757 which is an initiative between David Kotts 26 00:01:12,757 --> 00:01:14,753 and Amanda Fielding of the Beckley Foundation. 27 00:01:14,753 --> 00:01:18,726 Amanda is a key collaborative partner in this work, 28 00:01:19,699 --> 00:01:21,353 and David Nutts, the principal investigator on it. 29 00:01:21,353 --> 00:01:24,647 So we'll start with the science. 30 00:01:24,647 --> 00:01:27,212 We know that psilocybin is an ingredient 31 00:01:27,212 --> 00:01:29,467 in magic mushrooms. 32 00:01:29,467 --> 00:01:32,338 Now, psilocybin is the [pro-drug] of psilocin, 33 00:01:32,338 --> 00:01:35,804 which is remarkably similar in its molecular structure 34 00:01:35,804 --> 00:01:38,330 to the endogenous neurotransmitter 35 00:01:38,330 --> 00:01:41,192 which is found throughout the brain, serotonin. 36 00:01:41,192 --> 00:01:43,899 So it is really quite striking how similar 37 00:01:43,899 --> 00:01:46,699 it is in its molecular structure. 38 00:01:46,699 --> 00:01:50,325 Just a subtle change in its structure 39 00:01:50,325 --> 00:01:53,548 confers such profound effects of consciousness. 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this already 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is a matter of great intrigue 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about how these drugs work in the brain. 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So what was found in the mid-1980s 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 was a strong positive correlation 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 between a psychedelic drug's affinity 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for the serotonin 2A receptor, 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a particular subtype of the serotonin receptor, 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the drug's potency. 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So a good example to help illustrate 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's principle is, LSD has a very high affinity 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for the serotonin 2A receptor -- 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's very sticky, and it's also incredibly potent. 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So that helps you understand. 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Also, Franz Vollenweider did an excellent study 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 blocking the serotinin 2A receptor 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with ketanserin, a relatively selective 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 serotonin 2A receptor blocker, 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and he found that pre-treatment 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with this drug blocked the psychedelic effects 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of psilocybin. So there's good evidence 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that these drugs trigger their effects 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on consciousness by initial effect on 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the serotonin 2A receptor. 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So already we have an important 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fundamental relationship that's been discovered 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 between the serotonin system and how these drugs work 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the brain. 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So where is the serotonin 2A receptor in the brain? 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, this is the largest serotonin 2A binding study 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that's been done by a colleague of ours, 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 David Erritzoe. 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He used a radioactive tracer, or ligand, 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that sticks to serotonin 2A receptors in the brain. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then you can detect the signal 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 where the ligand is stuck 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so doing this, he found that 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the serotonin 2A receptor is 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 very much a cortical receptor. 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So the outer layer of the brain, the cortex, 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (it's referred to as kind of like the bark of a tree) 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so this outer layer of the brain, that's where you find 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the serotonin 2A receptor. 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And it's especially prevalent, 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 especially densely expressed, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in high-level cortical regions. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So these are regions that 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 don't have a specific sensory function, like, 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for instance, the visual cortex, which is concerned 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with visual processing. 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The heteromodal regions so they have a more 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 kind of divergent, and high-level, function 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so the serotonin 2A receptor 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is especially densely expressed 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in these high-level cortical regions, 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 such as the posterior cingulate cortex. 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You will hear this term referred to again 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 throughout my talk 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because it's a key region of the brain, 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a very high-level region of the brain, 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it seems to be especially implicated in 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the mechanistic action of these drugs, 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 how they work in the brain. 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We also know that the serotonin 2A receptor 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is especially densely expressed 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the particular layer of the cortex. 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So the cortex is organized in a kind of laminar 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 way, and there's some large, 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what are referred to as pyramidal neurons 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in layer 5 of the cortex. 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That is... (pause) 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is layer 5 here. 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So there's some large neurons there, 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and these are the principal output layer 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the cortex, 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and there's also something else, 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is especially important about 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this cellular group, 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in terms of how this drug works in the brain. 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So we know the serotonin 2A receptor is very important, 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We know where it is, 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in terms of its spatial distribution in the brain 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and also within the cortex itself, 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 within its laminae organization. It's dense in the 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 deep pyramidal cells in layer 5. 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We also know that if you stimulate 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the serotonin 2A receptor, 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you have an excitatory effect on the host cells. 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So the cell that expresses the receptor, 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 if you stimulate it, then you're gonna make that cell 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 more excitable. 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So these are all important principles that we know. 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These are kind of the bedrock findings so far 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about how psychedelics work in the brain. 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But these are all quite low level; 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 my brain imaging work has been looking at 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a higher level, 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what's referred to as a macroscopic level. 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, the level you can look at and see 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on a large scale in terms of 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 brain networks, for instance, 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and regional brain activity. 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So let's start with our first study, 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 our first fMRI study with psilocybin. 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This used the modality referred to as 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 arterial spin labelling, which is 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a method which measures changes 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in blood flow in the brain. 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And generally there's quite a reliable relationship 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 between blood flow in the brain and brain activity. 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So if blood flow increases, 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we generally infer 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that brain activity has increased. 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this study had fifteen healthy volunteers, 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mean age of 34, 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the scans were 18 minutes in duration, 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there was a six-minute baseline, 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then we looked at changes in blood flow 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 after that baseline. 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There were two scans: 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a placebo scan followed by a drug scan. 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And volunteers just lay in the scanner. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They were presented with a fixation cross: 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 just a simple green cross that they looked at 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on a screen, and they just relaxed 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and were instructed really just to let their minds wander. 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then we looked at how 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the drug affected blood flow 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 during these conditions. 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We gave a dose of 2 mg of psilocybin-- 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that compares to about 50 mg when given orally. 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We gave the drug intravenously, 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so 2 mg is equivalent to about 50 mg orally, 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so it's a moderate dose. 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here's the design. Here's our 6-minute baseline. 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Infusion was given over 60 seconds. 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it's a relatively rapid infusion. 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then the onset of the effects is also rapid, 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so when the drug is given intravenously, 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 really there is very little delay between 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 delivery of the drug and the onset 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the subjective effects. 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So the subjective effects actually begin, 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 really, before the end of the 60-second adminstration, 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so the drug seems to really get in the brain 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 very quickly and to change consciousness 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 profoundly very quickly. 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So what was the first observation? 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, the first thing that we get 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 before we analyze the results are people's 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 descriptions of their experiences. 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So here's one of them: 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This volunteer said that "there was a definite 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sense of lubrication, 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of freedom, 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the cogs being loosened and firing off 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in all sorts of unexpected directions." 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now these subjective reports are really useful 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because they give you a sense of the 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mechanics that are going on in the brain, 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the changes in the mechanics, 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which confer the subjective effect -- 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what's going on in the brain on a mechanical level 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to produce the profound changes in consciousness. 204 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This volunteer said, "Everything became 205 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fragmented; things were all in bits 206 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it was very hard to hold it all together 207 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in a coherent stream." 208 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it's like I said, this stuff is really useful 209 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for understanding what is going on 210 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on a systems-level in the brain 211 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to produce these subjective effects. 212 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now, the default mode network 213 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you've heard quite a lot about 214 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 over the last two days. 215 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It is an incredibly important 216 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 system that's been discovered in the brain. 217 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And one of its properties is that 218 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it has very dense connectivity, 219 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so if you look at the white matter 220 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 tracks in the brain, 221 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so these are the fibers that connect 222 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 different brain regions, 223 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 then you'll find that there's a very dense 224 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 coming together of connections within 225 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the default mode notwork. 226 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So there seems to be 227 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 an incredibly important transit hub, 228 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a place where different regions 229 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can connect via, 230 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and information can be projected from, 231 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and also a very important integration center. 232 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, to integrate brain function, 233 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 information comes together at this common 234 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 convergence zone, and then 235 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that gives a coherence to cognition, essentially. 236 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's how it's understood so far. 237 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What else about the default mode network? 238 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So here's a metaphor to help you try and understand 239 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what people are thinking about its function. 240 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So a metaphor that could be used to explain 241 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what it does is a capital city in a country. 242 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's a place where people come together, 243 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 things come together, 244 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 business gets done. 245 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And it's an incredibly important hub, 246 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and if ever 247 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 God forbid, something were to happen to 248 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 London, then, the country as a whole 249 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 would be seriously effected, 250 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and not just Britain. 251 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it's incredibly important 252 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 integration hub, the default mode network. 253 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What else do we know about 254 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the default mode network? 255 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There's some evidences here. 256 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The default mode network undergoes 257 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 significant ontogenetic development 258 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from infancy to adulthood. 259 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It undergoes maturation as cognition matures. 260 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It has also undergone significant 261 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 evolutionary expansion 262 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so these regions have increased 263 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 more than other regions 264 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from primates to humans. 265 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's more metabolically active 266 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 than elsewhere in the brain, 267 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so the posterior cingulate cortex, 268 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is the region which is circled there, 269 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it actually accounts for 40% more 270 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 blood flow than anywhere else 271 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the brain. 272 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it is a very metabolically hungry system 273 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and these regions that are part of it 274 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are incredibly metabolically hungry. 275 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's doing something important. 276 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now, a matter of intrigue in neuroscience 277 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is that people don't have a really good handle 278 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on what the default mode is 279 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and what it does, 280 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but of course, they enjoy speculating, 281 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the researcher who really discovered 282 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the default mode network has referred 283 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to its very high energy levels 284 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as being like the brain's dark energy. 285 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So similar to dark energy in cosmology 286 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it is something that we know is there 287 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but we don't really know what it does. 288 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Really, we make inferences about it, 289 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 based on its relative decrease in activity. 290 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So when you engage in a task, 291 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you see a decrease in activity 292 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the default mode network, 293 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 whereas otherwise 294 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it is incredibly active. 295 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it's a mater of intrigue. 296 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What's going on here? 297 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What's all this energy for, and why 298 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is it consuming so much? 299 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We know that the default mode network 300 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is engaged during self-reflection, 301 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so that is a very staple finding. 302 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We also know that during 303 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 complex mental imagery, such as 304 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 spatial navigation or imagination, 305 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fantasy in one's mind eye, 306 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you'll also see increased activity 307 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the default mode network. 308 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Mental time travel -- so that's being 309 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 outside of the moment and 310 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 daydreaming about future events 311 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or past biographical experiences. 312 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So whenever you come out of the moment 313 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and you daydream in this way, 314 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you see increased activity and connectivity 315 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the default mode network. 316 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Also, theory of mind -- which is 317 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 putting someone oneself 318 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in somebody else's shoes. 319 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You will also see increased activity 320 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the default mode network during that function. 321 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And metacognition -- which thinking about thinking, 322 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that's also linked with 323 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 default mode network activity. 324 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So Raichle, who I said is the guy who 325 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 really discovered this network 326 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 has also referred to it as 327 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the orchestrator of the self. 328 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So all these things 329 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 led me to start thinking 330 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 having a background in psychoanalysis 331 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and being interested in 332 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 especially Freudian metapsychology 333 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 instead of the more mechanistic 334 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ideas of Freud. There is remarkable overlap 335 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 between his descriptions of the ego 336 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the relationship between the ego 337 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the unconscious mind, or the id, 338 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and what we're discovering in 339 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the default mode network. 340 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So in this paper, with Carhart-Harris & Friston, 341 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I submitted the idea that 342 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the default mode network is essentially 343 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the neural substrate source of the ego, 344 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is an idea to be shot down 345 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 if people find otherwise. 346 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But that's science. That's how we work. 347 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So what else is there about 348 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the default mode network? 349 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, what's it's relationship to depression? 350 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There's a very interesting relationship 351 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 between default mode network parameters 352 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and depressive symptomatology. 353 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So we know that connectivity between 354 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the medial pre-frontal cortex 355 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the default mode network 356 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the posterior cingulate cortex 357 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which are 358 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (pause) 359 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the front bits and the back bits. 360 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So when connectivity between these regions 361 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is high, 362 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 then scores in patients with depression 363 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on rumination (so these are scores in rumination. 364 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They are thinking over problems 365 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and ruminating on negative things), 366 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when this is high, connectivity 367 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 betwen these regions is especially 368 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 high. And we think this system, 369 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this overconnectivity, is really causing people to 370 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 have a kind of stereotype style of thinking. 371 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So they are stuck in this system, 372 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they are stuck in their own heads, 373 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they are stuck on their sense of self. 374 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They are usually thinking very critically 375 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about themselves, and going over and over 376 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about how terrible they are. 377 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this is a relationship we seem to be discovering 378 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about the default mode network 379 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and depressive symptomatology. 380 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This provides a useful background 381 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for what we're finding in terms of how 382 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 psilocybin is affecting 383 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 brain networks and brain systems. 384 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So in our ASL study, we found 385 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it was really quite surprising findings for us, 386 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 given descriptions of consciousness 387 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 being expanded by psychedelic drugs. 388 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We are given some previous work, 389 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for instance, by Franz Vollenweider, 390 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we were thinking we were going to be seeing 391 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 increases in brain activity or brain blood flow 392 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with psilocybin. 393 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And despite dropping the threshold 394 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and a number of different things, 395 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we really didn't see this. 396 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 All we were really seeing was 397 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the same pattern again and again, 398 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which was decreased blood flow 399 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in certain regions of the brain. 400 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What was intriguing was that 401 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the decreases that we were seeing were 402 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in these very same important hub strutures 403 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the brain. 404 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, for instance, the posterior cingulate cortex, 405 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this bit at the back, 406 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the thalamus, 407 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the medial pre-frontal cortex -- 408 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so these very reliably 409 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 were coming up as being 410 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 decreased under psilocybin. 411 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here's just showing you again, 412 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the default mode network is this kind of 413 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 hub, this connectivity hub, in the brain. 414 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We also found that 415 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there was a relationship between 416 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the magnitude of the decrease in blood flow 417 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and ratings of the intensity of the experience. 418 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, the larger the decrease in blood flow, 419 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 particularly in the anterior cingulate cortex, 420 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the more intense people were describing 421 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 their experiences. 422 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So whenever you find these relationships 423 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it kind of reinforces your inferences, really, 424 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and provides some consolidation 425 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for what you are finding 426 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and supports its functional meaning. 427 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So since our ASL study 428 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we did a [bold] study. 429 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is kind of the classic [signal] 430 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI). 431 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We really repeated the same protocol: 432 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 15 healthy volunteers, 433 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 infused with a drug over 60 seconds at 2 mg, 434 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we found exactly the same thing. 435 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this was really nice reinforcement 436 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for the initial finding that we had found 437 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with ASL. 438 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And these regions where there was a common 439 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 overlap between the decreases in blood flow 440 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with ASL and the decreases in, 441 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 essentially venous oxygenation, 442 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or oxygenated blood with the BOLD signal 443 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of fMRI. 444 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So one of the merits of BOLD fMRI is 445 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that it allows you to do these 446 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 functional connectivity analyses. 447 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So just to give you a feel for what that is, 448 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 here is an image which shows 449 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the default mode network in orange 450 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and let's concentrate on the default 451 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mode network for a moment. 452 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So you can see that there are two regions in it, 453 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and there is one that has has yellow text, 454 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the PCC? and then you can see there is this 455 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 time series underneath. 456 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So the PCC time series is in yellow 457 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and you can see that it overlaps with 458 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 anothertime series, and that is 459 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the medial prefontal cortex. 460 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So it is by looking at correlations between 461 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 fluctuations in the BOLD signal 462 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that we identify functionally coherent 463 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 brain networks. We know these regions 464 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 work together as a common network 465 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 doing a common function.