WEBVTT 00:00:05.220 --> 00:00:09.360 [Minerva Cuevas: Bridging Borders] 00:00:11.280 --> 00:00:15.140 The term "political activist" is problematic. 00:00:18.300 --> 00:00:22.240 I think the challenge is to 00:00:23.040 --> 00:00:25.920 stop using the references to activism 00:00:25.940 --> 00:00:32.980 because everybody has this agency to react to daily life 00:00:33.020 --> 00:00:36.380 and therefore generate political actions. 00:00:47.700 --> 00:00:49.780 --[NEWS CORRESPONDENT] At the U.S.-Mexican border, 00:00:49.800 --> 00:00:52.200 --a fence separates two worlds. 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:54.120 --Poverty to the south. 00:00:54.120 --> 00:00:55.460 --Wealth to the north. 00:00:56.260 --> 00:01:00.400 [CUEVAS] In general, I think my work is the research I do. 00:01:01.400 --> 00:01:06.980 I planned a project for the Mexican and U.S. border. 00:01:06.980 --> 00:01:08.580 My general idea was: 00:01:08.580 --> 00:01:11.460 If there is a border, there could be a bridge. 00:01:11.960 --> 00:01:16.760 I had never been in the area of the Rio Bravo. 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:23.100 I learned that the historical border is the deepest part of the river. 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.940 At the end I found an area that was a kind of natural bridge. 00:01:29.940 --> 00:01:34.000 And I decided to use the rocks in that part of the river 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:38.480 to cross from the U.S. to Mexico and back. 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:44.180 I was marking the rocks with limestone 00:01:44.180 --> 00:01:47.980 just to make a sign of the crossing. 00:01:49.220 --> 00:01:54.840 You could see this dotted line going across the Rio Bravo. 00:01:58.880 --> 00:02:04.200 With the installation, there were elements related to walking-- 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:05.740 like walking sticks 00:02:05.740 --> 00:02:09.910 and books talking about the Chihuahuan desert. 00:02:10.600 --> 00:02:16.600 The act of walking from south to north was the most political act you could do. 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:18.400 [NEWS CORRESPONDENT] President Trump's proposed wall 00:02:18.409 --> 00:02:20.269 along the U.S.-Mexico border 00:02:20.269 --> 00:02:22.840 could cost nearly 22 billion dollars. 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.459 As first reported by Reuters, 00:02:24.460 --> 00:02:27.120 it could take about three-and-a-half years to build. 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:31.460 [CUEVAS] You learn about the border through media. 00:02:31.700 --> 00:02:34.780 It's connected to limits or control. 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:40.280 Violence is a very strong element in this perception 00:02:40.300 --> 00:02:41.980 of what's the border. 00:02:44.760 --> 00:02:48.060 Along the river, you have some border patrols; 00:02:48.060 --> 00:02:50.180 but, there were no signs. 00:02:50.720 --> 00:02:55.600 The whole area was free of any fence or wall. 00:02:56.360 --> 00:03:02.920 Not witnessing anything connected to that kind of mediatic violence, 00:03:02.920 --> 00:03:05.480 it's the first liberation. 00:03:05.900 --> 00:03:10.680 You realize that what is intimidating is the desert itself. 00:03:14.160 --> 00:03:18.100 Lately, I've been invited as part of talks 00:03:18.109 --> 00:03:21.129 that have to do with climate change 00:03:21.129 --> 00:03:23.620 or urban development 00:03:23.620 --> 00:03:28.080 and the idea of "the artist as an activist." 00:03:29.340 --> 00:03:34.240 There is this expectation of one action generating a lot of change. 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.739 Books and projects can be important, 00:03:36.740 --> 00:03:39.000 but they won't be a solution. 00:03:39.860 --> 00:03:45.780 The problems or the crisis in the world is generated by everybody. 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:51.440 So it has to be also a massive reaction what changes reality. 00:03:51.480 --> 00:03:52.620 [CROWD CHANTING] No ban, no wall! 00:03:52.629 --> 00:03:53.859 No ban, no wall! 00:03:53.859 --> 00:03:55.090 No ban, no wall! 00:03:55.090 --> 00:03:56.319 No ban, no wall! 00:03:56.319 --> 00:04:01.349 [CUEVAS] Nationalism nowadays is linked to violence and the Other 00:04:01.349 --> 00:04:04.769 and the differences between communities 00:04:04.769 --> 00:04:11.020 rather than some kind of uniting element that is more necessary nowadays. 00:04:12.420 --> 00:04:15.620 The wall wouldn't stop immigration. 00:04:15.620 --> 00:04:19.730 The wall only reinforces this original imaginary 00:04:19.730 --> 00:04:22.600 that's connecting the border with violence. 00:04:24.460 --> 00:04:28.580 In fact, it would empower human trafficking. 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:36.879 It seems that the reactions are now getting a little bit more extreme 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.780 in terms of rethinking what's being human 00:04:40.780 --> 00:04:44.520 and what do we want from not only politics 00:04:44.520 --> 00:04:47.000 but from our daily lives. 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.680 How do we want to confront our reality.