0:00:05.220,0:00:09.360 [Minerva Cuevas: Bridging Borders] 0:00:11.280,0:00:15.140 The term "political activist" is problematic. 0:00:18.300,0:00:22.240 I think the challenge is to 0:00:23.040,0:00:25.920 stop using the references to activism 0:00:25.940,0:00:32.980 because everybody has this agency[br]to react to daily life 0:00:33.020,0:00:36.380 and therefore generate political actions. 0:00:47.700,0:00:49.780 --[NEWS CORRESPONDENT][br]At the U.S.-Mexican border, 0:00:49.800,0:00:52.200 --a fence separates two worlds. 0:00:52.840,0:00:54.120 --Poverty to the south. 0:00:54.120,0:00:55.460 --Wealth to the north. 0:00:56.260,0:01:00.400 [CUEVAS] In general, I think my work[br]is the research I do. 0:01:01.400,0:01:06.980 I planned a project for the[br]Mexican and U.S. border. 0:01:06.980,0:01:08.580 My general idea was: 0:01:08.580,0:01:11.460 If there is a border, there could be a bridge. 0:01:11.960,0:01:16.760 I had never been in the area of the Rio Bravo. 0:01:16.760,0:01:23.100 I learned that the historical border[br]is the deepest part of the river. 0:01:25.200,0:01:29.940 At the end I found an area that was[br]a kind of natural bridge. 0:01:29.940,0:01:34.000 And I decided to use the rocks[br]in that part of the river 0:01:34.000,0:01:38.480 to cross from the U.S. to Mexico and back. 0:01:40.000,0:01:44.180 I was marking the rocks with limestone 0:01:44.180,0:01:47.980 just to make a sign of the crossing. 0:01:49.220,0:01:54.840 You could see this dotted line going[br]across the Rio Bravo. 0:01:58.880,0:02:04.200 With the installation,[br]there were elements related to walking-- 0:02:04.200,0:02:05.740 like walking sticks 0:02:05.740,0:02:09.910 and books talking about the Chihuahuan desert. 0:02:10.600,0:02:16.600 The act of walking from south to north[br]was the most political act you could do. 0:02:17.000,0:02:18.400 [NEWS CORRESPONDENT][br]President Trump's proposed wall 0:02:18.409,0:02:20.269 along the U.S.-Mexico border 0:02:20.269,0:02:22.840 could cost nearly 22 billion dollars. 0:02:22.840,0:02:24.459 As first reported by Reuters, 0:02:24.460,0:02:27.120 it could take about[br]three-and-a-half years to build. 0:02:27.840,0:02:31.460 [CUEVAS] You learn about the border [br]through media. 0:02:31.700,0:02:34.780 It's connected to limits or control. 0:02:35.840,0:02:40.280 Violence is a very strong element[br]in this perception 0:02:40.300,0:02:41.980 of what's the border. 0:02:44.760,0:02:48.060 Along the river, you have some border patrols; 0:02:48.060,0:02:50.180 but, there were no signs. 0:02:50.720,0:02:55.600 The whole area was free of any fence or wall. 0:02:56.360,0:03:02.920 Not witnessing anything connected to that[br]kind of mediatic violence, 0:03:02.920,0:03:05.480 it's the first liberation. 0:03:05.900,0:03:10.680 You realize that what is intimidating[br]is the desert itself. 0:03:14.160,0:03:18.100 Lately, I've been invited as part of talks 0:03:18.109,0:03:21.129 that have to do with climate change 0:03:21.129,0:03:23.620 or urban development 0:03:23.620,0:03:28.080 and the idea of[br]"the artist as an activist." 0:03:29.340,0:03:34.240 There is this expectation of one action[br]generating a lot of change. 0:03:34.560,0:03:36.739 Books and projects can be important, 0:03:36.740,0:03:39.000 but they won't be a solution. 0:03:39.860,0:03:45.780 The problems or the crisis in the world[br]is generated by everybody. 0:03:45.800,0:03:51.440 So it has to be also a massive reaction[br]what changes reality. 0:03:51.480,0:03:52.620 [CROWD CHANTING] No ban, no wall! 0:03:52.629,0:03:53.859 No ban, no wall! 0:03:53.859,0:03:55.090 No ban, no wall! 0:03:55.090,0:03:56.319 No ban, no wall! 0:03:56.319,0:04:01.349 [CUEVAS] Nationalism nowadays is linked to[br]violence and the Other 0:04:01.349,0:04:04.769 and the differences between communities 0:04:04.769,0:04:11.020 rather than some kind of uniting element[br]that is more necessary nowadays. 0:04:12.420,0:04:15.620 The wall wouldn't stop immigration. 0:04:15.620,0:04:19.730 The wall only reinforces this original imaginary 0:04:19.730,0:04:22.600 that's connecting the border with violence. 0:04:24.460,0:04:28.580 In fact, it would empower human trafficking. 0:04:31.120,0:04:36.879 It seems that the reactions are now[br]getting a little bit more extreme 0:04:36.879,0:04:40.780 in terms of rethinking what's being human 0:04:40.780,0:04:44.520 and what do we want from not only politics 0:04:44.520,0:04:47.000 but from our daily lives. 0:04:48.000,0:04:51.680 How do we want to confront our reality.