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Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.64,0:00:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[New York Close Up]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.26,0:00:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being in the Whitney Biennial\Nis really interesting right now
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.86,0:00:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of my background as a\NLatino queer artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.22,0:00:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ridgewood, Queens]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.08,0:00:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Essentially, I'm showing in\N"the museum of American art"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.10,0:00:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm from Mexican descent,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.92,0:00:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, you know, what does that mean today?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.94,0:00:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what that'll mean for tomorrow...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.30,0:00:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.14,0:00:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Raúl de Nieves is an American Artist]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.12,0:00:43.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm listening to a lot of techno right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.96,0:00:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so that I can keep the momentum.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.56,0:00:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never try to be a perfectionist\Nwith my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.42,0:00:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always wanted to make stained glass,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.32,0:01:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I feel like it's a little heavy, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.80,0:01:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this makes it lighter
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.86,0:01:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I can do it anywhere I want.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.72,0:01:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes my friends come over\Nand we, like, chill out.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.38,0:01:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.92,0:01:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they'll watch me cut\Na bunch of paper together.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.87,0:01:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.52,0:01:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew in Morelia, Michoacán.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.20,0:01:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Growing up in Mexico was really magical
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.61,0:01:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I got to see a lot of forms of celebration.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.54,0:01:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to experience death\Nas a really young child.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.32,0:01:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what my work is about:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.59,0:01:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like seeing the facets\Nof happiness and sadness
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.28,0:01:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all in one place.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.72,0:01:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Color was such an embedded part of my life
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.96,0:01:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I always saw things\Nas bright as they could be.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.28,0:01:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most interesting part about this\Nto me is
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.94,0:02:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can make something\Nout of the simplest things
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.69,0:02:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it can translate into a different reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.22,0:02:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not knowing how it's going to turn out
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.94,0:02:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is extremely exciting.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.32,0:02:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I'm just anticipating...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.04,0:02:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.54,0:02:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the day I get to put this up
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.50,0:02:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see what it does.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.92,0:02:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Holy shit!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.58,0:02:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SCREAMS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.80,0:02:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Hi guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.78,0:02:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[ALL] Hi!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.84,0:02:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--How's it going?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.46,0:02:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh my god, this is so crazy!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.86,0:02:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BREATHES OUT]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.24,0:02:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really hits the wall!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.78,0:02:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh my god,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.16,0:02:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is so cool.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.00,0:02:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ALL LAUGH]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.80,0:02:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is so cool!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.64,0:02:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[DE NIEVES SCREAMS]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.64,0:02:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Okay, should we start moving these things...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.46,0:02:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[MIA LOCKS] Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.06,0:02:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[DE NIEVES] Okay, cool!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.94,0:02:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--So, I'm picturing the orange one...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.61,0:02:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mom had already been\Nliving in the United States
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.60,0:03:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for about two months.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.04,0:03:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day, my aunt came to pick us up from school,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.84,0:03:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she said, "You're going to America.\NLet's go."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.90,0:03:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we got on a plane without a bag.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.00,0:03:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--This woman is supposed to go right here.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.82,0:03:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--She's kind of like going, like...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.06,0:03:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Yeah, like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.84,0:03:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[LOCKS] What would you like\Nthe posture to be?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.44,0:03:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[DE NIEVES] Well, I mean, I wish it was\Na little bit more animated,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.04,0:03:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--because that looks so real with these, like,\Nhands in the air.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.12,0:03:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--But, I figured even if it could\Njust be like...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.44,0:03:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That day that I got into a plane,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.82,0:03:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that I didn't have any belongings,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.20,0:03:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of things went through my head.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.60,0:03:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was obviously scared,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.22,0:03:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was nine years old\Nand couldn't speak English.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.64,0:03:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mia Locks, Curator]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.18,0:03:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I knew that I would be able to survive.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.98,0:03:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that I just have to trust
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.24,0:04:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what ever life was going to bring me next.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.64,0:04:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--But,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.24,0:04:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--can a viewer come right here?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.90,0:04:12.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--Is that illegal?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.22,0:04:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--I mean...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.24,0:04:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Creating this narrative,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.01,0:04:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all these figures and symbols--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.10,0:04:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just taking what I've learned from experiences
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.45,0:04:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and being able to put it in one image--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.12,0:04:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really important for me right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.55,0:04:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first panel in the stained-glass mural
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.09,0:04:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is of a person in sickness.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.68,0:04:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is challenging his mentality
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.97,0:04:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to turn from bad to good--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.19,0:04:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or is asking for help.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.93,0:04:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it trickles down to
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.19,0:04:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a personal fight.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.54,0:04:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Defeat is really important.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.40,0:05:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should be somewhat of a struggle to continue.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.56,0:05:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the fly is actually the core of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.68,0:05:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's constantly watching--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.10,0:05:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, it's like a secret.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.60,0:05:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end, I want it to be\Na celebration of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.70,0:05:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[INTERVIEWER, OFF SCREEN] You're 33?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.72,0:05:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[DE NIEVES] I'm 33!
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.46,0:05:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.34,0:05:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My dad died when he was 33.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.59,0:05:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My dad died when I was two years old,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.18,0:05:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I feel like he's closer to me now than...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.14,0:05:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.14,0:05:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I don't know,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.24,0:05:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but his remembrance allows me to
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.36,0:05:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep going.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.72,0:05:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It feels more of a gift.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.18,0:05:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, it symbolizes my dad's spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.47,0:06:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My grandfather.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.00,0:06:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My grandmother.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.54,0:06:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My own personal spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.72,0:06:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a celebration of my mom's courage
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.70,0:06:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring me to this country.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.84,0:06:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had to do it for her and three other kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.98,0:06:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always believed that the United States
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.56,0:06:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the land of all nations,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.78,0:06:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I guess I'm starting to realize
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.40,0:06:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not completely true.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.32,0:06:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mural talks about this experience--
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.74,0:06:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this journey.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.36,0:06:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel really happy that I could put\Nso much emphasis
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.44,0:06:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this idea of "a better tomorrow"\Nin my artwork.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.57,0:06:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that there are so many\Ndiverse groups in this exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.34,0:06:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really important.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.28,0:06:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And hopefully it reminds people that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.62,0:06:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is 2017.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.98,0:06:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't want to go back in time--
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.98,0:06:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to move forward.