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they were participate with us we'd ask

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you to stand at this time please thank

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you your honor

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Heavenly Father we we thank you for this

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game thank you for our beautiful city we

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pray for our first responders as always

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that they risk their lives every single

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day for us we pray for the folks that

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are out sick today and that you'll

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you'll be with them and be with their

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families and just bless this meeting and

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bless the upcoming election that see

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your will will be done and your name we

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pray amen amen

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let's call the meeting to order and I

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will ask the clerk to please take role

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coleman Mandelbaum here got here County

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here Westergaard here great here you got

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a Polk compliment right all right before

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we switch to item two quickly Matt I

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want you we have a new person in the

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audience that we kind of announced last

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time but maybe I'd like to have you

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I think I saw Malcolm back there

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introduced Mountain and it'd be my

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pleasure

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this is Malcolm hankins first City

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Council meeting as our new assistant

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city manager he and his families moved

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here from Aurora Colorado

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so everybody Malcolm is back the room

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he's he comes with a great wealth of

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experience in Community Development in a

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few different cities in the in the West

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at southwest so I think he's gonna be a

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great addition we were really excited to

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get him congratulations Malcolm

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alright item two on the agenda is

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approving the agenda as presented and/or

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as amended and let me quickly check

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there are a couple of amendments and

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changes item 10e is withdrawn by the

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city manager item 10a is withdrawn by

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the city manager 11 1 an 11 Roman

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numeral 1 and Roman numeral 2 11 both of

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those were also withdrawn item 23 is

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corrected it says 8000 reduced size of

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the permanent easement and 24 is

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corrected 250 dollars item 42 a was

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added this is a renaming of a Mike

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McPherson tennis courts to the Birdland

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sports park tennis courts and the

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sponsor is council member Coleman item

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49 is corrected it's an ordinance

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effective date will be January 1 of 2020

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there is a an additional extra item at

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the direction to direct the city manager

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on the on a tax levy and we'll go over

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that as the extra item other than that I

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think if somebody gives a little bit

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kind of question first I'm sorry

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sure did we have to take action on the

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East Village parking garage I pulled it

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okay okay I think I actually just pulled

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off the whole rate of item 49 then I'm

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the speaker okay but yes I am all right

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I know you're going with that I'll move

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item 2 okay item 2 has been moved on

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paper I post item passes

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item 3 is approving the consent agenda

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tonight those are items 3 through 50 and

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generally we take these there routine

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items and are enacted as a single roll

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call unless either a member of our

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Council asked to pull one for further

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clarification or discussion or someone

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from the audience asked similar

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questions in once and clarification so

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for this evening again items 3 through

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50 item

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for B and for Z council member kulmann

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votes no item for J council member

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Coleman was to speak item five County

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votes no item seven Coleman wishes to

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speak item 42 Coleman and Westergaard

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wish to speak at him 43 mandelbaum

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wishes to speak in item 49 council

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member gadelle will speak are there any

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other items anyone would like to have

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pulled again those are items 3 through

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50 I'll move it all right seeing none

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items been moved 7 0 motion carried

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virgin all right

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item 4 is approving alcohol beverage

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licenses and J in this case is district

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it's at 2:16 court Avenue and they are

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asking for AC liquor license mr. Coleman

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thank you I I doubt Sue Ann is here I

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noticed this over the weekend we've been

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back and forth with resident actually

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several residents about violation of the

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noise ordinance at this facility and I

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think there was a dispute between our

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zoning officers and the business

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operator as to whether or not they'd

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allow in so under our current ordinance

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to check some of that stuff we have to

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have access to the facility Chris do you

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know if that got worked out or I don't

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know when their license expires but I

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think even if we delay if they have a

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right to continue until we take it up

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next I'd like to delay action on this if

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we could Josh a few weeks and give our

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zoning officers all the leverage they

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needed thank you sir raise it up

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I'll write the motion on for J then is

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to what would you say mr. continued so

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we're going to continue this item till

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the next meeting

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that'd be great 7-0 motion carry

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okay the next one is item 7 this is a

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public improvement is approving Iowa

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Department of Transportation I dot

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agreement for resurfacing and second

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Avenue

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Iowa for 15 from Euclid Avenue to North

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West 72nd Place Council communication

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number 19 - 489 mr. Coleman thank you I

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take this off bill and I have had the

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chance to talk a couple of times as have

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many of us over time I I I have limited

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times that somebody already pointed out

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I'm down to my final three meetings and

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I've served on the long-range

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transportation plan for the region

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through the MPO the last year plus it

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takes and in the coming weeks we're

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going to vote on a final adoption this

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is a required document that kind of

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talks about how growth will happen in

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the metro area how it affects Des Moines

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one of the things that fell out of that

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document the last time we did the plan

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is is we walked away from discussions

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and long term plans and when I say long

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term it's probably a decade or two away

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of a north-south thoroughfare through

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town as as the council will remember at

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our last workshop we talked a little bit

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about second Avenue and could that be

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designed in a way that created more of

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of that of that opportunity for much of

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the last 50 years the concept was that

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you know m.l.king that connects to

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highway five on the south side could go

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north to connect to the interstate or

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one of the state highways on the north

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side

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in fact the council spent significant

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money over that period of time to to

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study the hundreds of thousands of

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dollars

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of course any big project we ran into

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this with m.l.king going over the

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Raccoon River we ran into it with

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m.l.king going over the Des Moines River

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and through the southeast side any

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project that we have is in in our city

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is ripe with considerations about impact

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on flooding impact on the environment

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and it's it would be - it would be

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premature for anybody to say here's the

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solution to the north-south corridor but

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I do think that as we begin to spend a

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lot of money on 2nd Avenue and realize

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that's not going to take the strain off

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of the neighborhoods on the north side

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and I think about the Merle hay

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Neighborhood Association I think about

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Island Park I think about Beaver Avenue

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some of those streets in those areas

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have such a traffic demand that's not

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well managed and problem that that you

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know it's really hard to run a business

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and do different things in in those

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corridors because the amount of traffic

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so I would propose that the council put

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back on the agenda how we're going to

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deal with this north/south concept I'd

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say two other things mainly you know to

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memorialize you know my memory and and I

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I would assure you that these are facts

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that when we did the i-235 build so if

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you went back in time we kind of made

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that decision on the design of that in

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99 and 2000 and then it was built and I

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think completed around 2007 we decided

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not to build the design that Iowa

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Department of Transportation recommended

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they wanted it to be wider take more

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houses out and to do you know

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more what they called the full build

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they agreed to it reluctantly to design

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it the way they have with not as many

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lanes which I support in part because

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the city agreed to pursue a north-south

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corridor to take the load off of i-235

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we're not seeing it as

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as will be some day you know but the

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long-range forecast says that we're

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going to have an increase of hundreds of

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thousands of people still in the metro

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area and and so that that's point number

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one point number two is that along with

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that when we talked about about ml King

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and flu or being that solution going

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north to south there was lots of talk

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and I think there's there's documents in

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the city manager's office that talk

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about once that connection is made from

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you know a state highway to a state

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highway that that would be controlled

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improved maintained by the state which

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could save our citizens millions of

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dollars what are we spending thirteen

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million on Fluer right now

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had it happened a decade ago that would

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be there you know costs not ours so I

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don't want movement what it does connect

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to a state highway so we've got the

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Purple Heart Highway and we got 235

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those are both my ways Ryan it should be

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maintained now and they agreed to it

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they I think we can find documentation

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that says says do you know that but they

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they they agreed to it

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that was about the time you came on the

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council mayor I think when or maybe

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became mayor Oh 302 so anyway one of the

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undone pieces of work that I've been on

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since I've been on the council is better

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better traffic control going north and

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south through town and I I think that we

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have to have that on the agenda and I

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hope the council as we kind of finalize

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a design of second Avenue that's not

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going to expand the capacity that we

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find it somewhere on the north side and

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this was my excuse to pull it off the

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agenda right now they're going through a

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residential area

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yeah second was the tree 12th Street

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through a moral story Morningstar yeah

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that's I mean that yeah that takes a lot

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of traffic right there and you kind of

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could run by that old literally yeah

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that appealed yeah labor Park and the

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Little League so we're talking about a

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you know decade

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plus of work to be done with DC people

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and state transportation and the MPO and

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you know our own feelings about it but I

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I would challenge the council was you

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know you guys are all going to be back

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next year

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that you make this a priority to think

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about thank you Chris I wholeheartedly

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agree and wholeheartedly support it

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we've taken some pretty major hits down

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there on Euclid / Douglas along that

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Douglas Avenue corridor of course we

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lost Plaza lanes they will not rebuild

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the Saigon market in that corner is

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closing they are not going to be back in

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business we've got some fringe

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businesses that are not adding anything

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to the community and as you look at that

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that stretch of road that's pretty

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important to the entire city we've got

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all of our major hospitals can be

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reached through m.l.king you can get to

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broad lines you can get to Mercy you can

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get to Methodist you can get to Lutheran

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everyone and one of the times advance

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sat and talked with Mercy Hospital and

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that's why they want to be a part of the

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second Avenue discussion is because they

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get a lot of their people coming in from

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out of town

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mostly seniors and they say they're

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scared to death to drive on the freeway

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of Des Moines now that they can drive 35

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miles an hour down m.l.king they feel

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more comfortable more safe and so that's

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part of the reason I was pushing 2nd

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Avenue it to be that north-south

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corridor it's not going to be I think

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the time is right to look at this we if

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you look across the metro area we've

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added new interchanges at a hundred

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street for Urbandale we best added the

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flyover and that 141 exit in Urbandale

0:14:25.340,0:14:29.270
grimes and we're adding a new

0:14:27.200,0:14:32.180
interchange on Meredith in Urbandale

0:14:29.270,0:14:34.850
plus West Des Moines getting their own

0:14:32.180,0:14:36.710
interchanges over there any Ankeny is

0:14:34.850,0:14:38.540
getting their own interchanges the one

0:14:36.710,0:14:40.550
missing piece of the puzzle here is

0:14:38.540,0:14:42.680
where as Des Moines fit in and why are

0:14:40.550,0:14:44.990
all these going in each one of them

0:14:42.680,0:14:45.480
represents economic development in that

0:14:44.990,0:14:47.910
area

0:14:45.480,0:14:49.980
and this is an area that sorely needs

0:14:47.910,0:14:52.710
some economic development I'd like to

0:14:49.980,0:14:54.870
make sure that somewhere in this next

0:14:52.710,0:14:57.450
decade hopefully we can put a focus on

0:14:54.870,0:15:00.180
it this year is that we take a look and

0:14:57.450,0:15:02.340
dust off that plan and let's make this

0:15:00.180,0:15:04.560
thing a priority for this council so

0:15:02.340,0:15:06.660
this city can continue to grow and enjoy

0:15:04.560,0:15:08.970
the amenities that we we put our money

0:15:06.660,0:15:11.760
into so Chris I won't really thank you

0:15:08.970,0:15:14.310
for that lead him that is absolutely

0:15:11.760,0:15:16.350
something that we sorely need in our

0:15:14.310,0:15:21.290
city and and definitely in Ward one so I

0:15:16.350,0:15:23.400
appreciate that thank you mayor mayor

0:15:21.290,0:15:28.160
thanks Chris for pulling off and I know

0:15:23.400,0:15:28.160
that we've had discussions at the MPO

0:15:28.220,0:15:34.650
about this and and I knew that I asked

0:15:32.760,0:15:37.020
Chris about this about two three years

0:15:34.650,0:15:40.890
ago like why have we never thought that

0:15:37.020,0:15:42.660
we needed another north/south and I know

0:15:40.890,0:15:45.900
there's a there was been a lot of push

0:15:42.660,0:15:48.960
back to make it easier for people to get

0:15:45.900,0:15:51.540
out of our city well the road goes both

0:15:48.960,0:15:53.810
ways folks I mean the road comes back

0:15:51.540,0:15:56.610
into Des Moines as well as it goes out

0:15:53.810,0:16:00.810
so for that type of argument or that

0:15:56.610,0:16:03.810
type of mindset I think that's I think

0:16:00.810,0:16:06.170
that's somewhat silly and in my mind so

0:16:03.810,0:16:08.430
I would be very supportive of that

0:16:06.170,0:16:11.780
obviously we have a lot of hurdles to

0:16:08.430,0:16:15.720
get through I know

0:16:11.780,0:16:20.360
February I believe I will be the chair

0:16:15.720,0:16:24.330
of the MPO and that'll be for two years

0:16:20.360,0:16:26.130
so I would I would like to I'd like to

0:16:24.330,0:16:28.950
see where the discussions would go I

0:16:26.130,0:16:30.930
know that speaking with the folks in

0:16:28.950,0:16:35.790
West Des Moines in Ankeny they were all

0:16:30.930,0:16:37.620
very supportive of that being done but

0:16:35.790,0:16:39.270
they can't be the only person that would

0:16:37.620,0:16:40.710
be supportive of it because as my

0:16:39.270,0:16:42.150
understanding they got beat up pretty

0:16:40.710,0:16:44.760
good the last time they try to get it

0:16:42.150,0:16:46.890
done we are going to need some help with

0:16:44.760,0:16:50.790
Polk County because Polk incorporated

0:16:46.890,0:16:52.860
Polk County it was is part of it and so

0:16:50.790,0:16:55.260
we're gonna have to start some

0:16:52.860,0:16:58.420
discussions with them and and see where

0:16:55.260,0:17:00.430
those discussions go but

0:16:58.420,0:17:02.620
you know I think that that's something

0:17:00.430,0:17:04.870
for the growth of our city and economic

0:17:02.620,0:17:06.880
development that we'd be silly not to

0:17:04.870,0:17:09.520
think of for the future of our kids and

0:17:06.880,0:17:11.439
our grandkids and and and you know just

0:17:09.520,0:17:14.020
the future of our city you can't just

0:17:11.439,0:17:15.790
have one interstate going north and

0:17:14.020,0:17:18.579
south if you want to continue to grow

0:17:15.790,0:17:24.040
the right way so that's that's my two

0:17:18.579,0:17:27.370
cents worth there anybody else well good

0:17:24.040,0:17:29.920
I mean one I I mean I think these are

0:17:27.370,0:17:33.130
important discussions to have but I also

0:17:29.920,0:17:38.110
think that we need to and we did a lot

0:17:33.130,0:17:41.760
of good work around move DSM which we

0:17:38.110,0:17:44.350
just adopted that transportation plan

0:17:41.760,0:17:47.140
you know it's not quite a year ago or a

0:17:44.350,0:17:49.270
year ago the that provides us some

0:17:47.140,0:17:52.720
guidance on that but I think we need to

0:17:49.270,0:17:55.600
be mindful of the impact some of these

0:17:52.720,0:17:57.820
widening projects have and what we've

0:17:55.600,0:17:59.530
learned not just from our own community

0:17:57.820,0:18:02.200
but communities around the country

0:17:59.530,0:18:04.090
because I do have questions about what

0:18:02.200,0:18:07.660
that does from an economic development

0:18:04.090,0:18:12.280
perspective I think the wider when you

0:18:07.660,0:18:14.559
create wider thoroughfares I think it

0:18:12.280,0:18:16.929
creates challenges for businesses along

0:18:14.559,0:18:18.429
those those areas and it creates

0:18:16.929,0:18:20.590
challenges for creating the type of

0:18:18.429,0:18:23.919
spaces that that we're talking about and

0:18:20.590,0:18:26.260
wait you say that we want so I want to

0:18:23.919,0:18:29.799
be mindful of that and I also want to be

0:18:26.260,0:18:33.070
mindful of one of the things that I

0:18:29.799,0:18:35.530
think we we need to do and are hopefully

0:18:33.070,0:18:39.220
on the the path to doing which is we

0:18:35.530,0:18:42.580
need to fix our existing roads first and

0:18:39.220,0:18:44.799
focus on that before we widen and expand

0:18:42.580,0:18:51.669
the amount of roadway that we are taking

0:18:44.799,0:18:53.020
on and and so those are the lenses that

0:18:51.669,0:18:55.210
I'm going to be looking at these

0:18:53.020,0:18:57.880
decisions through and and I think it's

0:18:55.210,0:19:01.120
important to to keep those pieces in

0:18:57.880,0:19:04.120
mind going forward and Joe is our you

0:19:01.120,0:19:06.130
know as chair of the MPO I hope you'll

0:19:04.120,0:19:08.140
take those things into consideration as

0:19:06.130,0:19:10.480
well yeah we're at we're absolutely

0:19:08.140,0:19:12.669
gonna continue to fix the road

0:19:10.480,0:19:14.590
that we have and continue the path this

0:19:12.669,0:19:16.450
this wouldn't be any additional funding

0:19:14.590,0:19:18.280
that would come out of our road

0:19:16.450,0:19:20.110
improvement funds that we got or

0:19:18.280,0:19:22.299
anything like that I mean that those are

0:19:20.110,0:19:28.059
our number one priority I believe that

0:19:22.299,0:19:29.919
this would be a state feds would help

0:19:28.059,0:19:33.280
with some of the funding with this with

0:19:29.919,0:19:36.429
some ST BG funds and and things like

0:19:33.280,0:19:38.650
that but no under any circumstances this

0:19:36.429,0:19:40.929
isn't going to take away from our road

0:19:38.650,0:19:42.280
improvement front in any way I just want

0:19:40.929,0:19:44.049
to make that clear yeah thank you for

0:19:42.280,0:19:46.090
that pointing that out that that that

0:19:44.049,0:19:47.710
that's not our I don't think any of our

0:19:46.090,0:19:48.490
intentions that work no I would worded I

0:19:47.710,0:19:51.220
wouldn't allow it

0:19:48.490,0:19:53.830
yeah there's nothing much that even even

0:19:51.220,0:19:56.650
is the city's yeah thank you I mean I

0:19:53.830,0:19:59.020
that's what how far out the the boundary

0:19:56.650,0:20:01.179
is pretty short there before he hits two

0:19:59.020,0:20:02.919
jobs right right patchy probably depends

0:20:01.179,0:20:04.570
on the engineering of which way they but

0:20:02.919,0:20:07.960
it's you know a couple hundred yards

0:20:04.570,0:20:10.480
north of Euclid you know which is where

0:20:07.960,0:20:12.309
it would become a which now becomes an

0:20:10.480,0:20:13.900
MLK he's gonna need reconstructed I

0:20:12.309,0:20:16.240
would think in the next five years after

0:20:13.900,0:20:19.299
driving down at many times to head north

0:20:16.240,0:20:20.860
and south it's got some serious problems

0:20:19.299,0:20:22.720
on that road so if we're gonna

0:20:20.860,0:20:24.610
reconstruct it and let's think let's be

0:20:22.720,0:20:27.880
smart about reconstructing that road in

0:20:24.610,0:20:29.799
the right way I do want to I do want to

0:20:27.880,0:20:33.280
say one other thing if other people are

0:20:29.799,0:20:35.380
done you know that the nature of this

0:20:33.280,0:20:39.340
road in the 20 years that I've served

0:20:35.380,0:20:41.470
has changed a little bit I think 20

0:20:39.340,0:20:43.000
years ago where 22 years ago somebody

0:20:41.470,0:20:46.360
might make the case that building roads

0:20:43.000,0:20:50.260
like this creates urban sprawl my guess

0:20:46.360,0:20:51.490
is a hundred percent of the good

0:20:50.260,0:20:53.590
development that would happen as a

0:20:51.490,0:20:57.309
result of this and the houses that would

0:20:53.590,0:21:00.400
be constructed will be five miles closer

0:20:57.309,0:21:03.250
to the core of the city of the metro

0:21:00.400,0:21:05.559
area than where let's say Ankeny is

0:21:03.250,0:21:08.140
building now or where West Des Moines is

0:21:05.559,0:21:10.299
building this is a chance it may not be

0:21:08.140,0:21:12.490
in the city but it's a chance as we

0:21:10.299,0:21:14.950
think about the environment and being

0:21:12.490,0:21:18.340
good stewards of transportation systems

0:21:14.950,0:21:21.500
that this is a way to combat urban

0:21:18.340,0:21:25.470
sprawl and not add to it

0:21:21.500,0:21:29.490
three point all right I think we've got

0:21:25.470,0:21:30.270
a with that maybe emotion do you not

0:21:29.490,0:21:33.720
accept this

0:21:30.270,0:21:35.940
I will also in sort of the dovetail on

0:21:33.720,0:21:37.920
what Bill was talking about about that

0:21:35.940,0:21:41.910
whole Douglas Avenue corridor and down

0:21:37.920,0:21:44.549
to the river and all that the RTG has

0:21:41.910,0:21:47.549
been working on a study for that whole

0:21:44.549,0:21:49.049
corridor that's really exciting and

0:21:47.549,0:21:50.730
Connie was there the other night

0:21:49.049,0:21:56.370
Bela you may have touched into it for a

0:21:50.730,0:21:57.960
few minutes it it this whole idea with

0:21:56.370,0:22:00.740
the proper planning for highways and

0:21:57.960,0:22:04.770
transportation and with appropriate

0:22:00.740,0:22:06.720
funding and sidewalks and and multimodal

0:22:04.770,0:22:11.190
transportation and they could really add

0:22:06.720,0:22:13.950
to this whole area and but I do agree we

0:22:11.190,0:22:16.380
need to be careful of funding sources

0:22:13.950,0:22:22.220
and how it goes because we we've made a

0:22:16.380,0:22:24.870
lot of promises around streets and roads

0:22:22.220,0:22:27.150
reconstruction repairs I mean quite

0:22:24.870,0:22:28.530
frankly and in in storm sewer stuff

0:22:27.150,0:22:29.970
around it too which is around the Des

0:22:28.530,0:22:32.280
Moines River as well and around four

0:22:29.970,0:22:34.770
Mile Creek and everywhere else I mean we

0:22:32.280,0:22:38.429
are talking about one hundred and forty

0:22:34.770,0:22:39.780
five million on storm water improvements

0:22:38.429,0:22:42.510
we're talking about over three hundred

0:22:39.780,0:22:44.220
million dollars of improvements and in

0:22:42.510,0:22:47.160
streets on top of everything that we've

0:22:44.220,0:22:48.780
been doing recently we're talking about

0:22:47.160,0:22:51.390
a hundred and eighty miles of new

0:22:48.780,0:22:54.840
connectivity through sidewalks and

0:22:51.390,0:22:57.720
connecting people and have made EA

0:22:54.840,0:23:00.660
compliant and connecting students to

0:22:57.720,0:23:02.549
schools and safe ways we have really

0:23:00.660,0:23:05.549
spent a lot of time and is was pointed

0:23:02.549,0:23:06.809
out on the whole move DSM things so

0:23:05.549,0:23:08.669
thanks for bringing it all up but I

0:23:06.809,0:23:10.950
think these are all have to be on the

0:23:08.669,0:23:13.410
table and hopefully we can get the

0:23:10.950,0:23:16.350
appropriate support to to move these

0:23:13.410,0:23:18.330
projects forward I'm excited and we're

0:23:16.350,0:23:21.150
all sitting here committed to keeping

0:23:18.330,0:23:24.299
that bed guide moving forward I'll move

0:23:21.150,0:23:27.000
item seven as it exists on our agenda

0:23:24.299,0:23:29.550
and then add to it a referral to the

0:23:27.000,0:23:35.059
city manager's office to put this on a

0:23:29.550,0:23:35.059
workshop agenda for you know early 2020

0:23:38.550,0:23:47.670
seven yes motion carried

0:23:42.180,0:23:49.930
all right next item I believe is item 42

0:23:47.670,0:23:53.440
however well I guess we had a couple of

0:23:49.930,0:23:55.630
minutes left so item 42 is approving a

0:23:53.440,0:23:57.280
donation construction agreement with

0:23:55.630,0:24:01.300
kick it forward regarding installation

0:23:57.280,0:24:04.330
of a mini pitch system pitches all court

0:24:01.300,0:24:08.290
at Birdland Sports Park what counts of

0:24:04.330,0:24:11.500
communication number 19 - 488 and under

0:24:08.290,0:24:14.170
that renaming the Mike McPherson Tennis

0:24:11.500,0:24:17.290
Complex we Birdland sports park tennis

0:24:14.170,0:24:19.750
courts in the sponsor on this item is

0:24:17.290,0:24:21.640
council member Coleman mr. Coleman well

0:24:19.750,0:24:23.830
Linda was also there and I'll let her go

0:24:21.640,0:24:27.070
first yes I just wanted to extend my

0:24:23.830,0:24:29.620
gratitude to the parks department into

0:24:27.070,0:24:33.580
the nonprofit kick it forward forward

0:24:29.620,0:24:37.210
choosing this location for the

0:24:33.580,0:24:39.850
futsal courts I had to like google it to

0:24:37.210,0:24:44.470
figure out what it was Matt just

0:24:39.850,0:24:46.720
explained it to me it's very exciting

0:24:44.470,0:24:50.020
and it I mean there are so many things

0:24:46.720,0:24:53.020
going on in Ward 2 you know I know we've

0:24:50.020,0:24:54.940
got a new ropes course over farther east

0:24:53.020,0:24:57.820
and and with this and there's just

0:24:54.940,0:25:01.000
really a lot of things going on in it's

0:24:57.820,0:25:03.820
an exciting time to be in war too so I

0:25:01.000,0:25:06.700
just want to thank kick it forward and I

0:25:03.820,0:25:13.010
look forward to being there to watch the

0:25:06.700,0:25:17.660
first game start especially me

0:25:13.010,0:25:21.200
that's great that's very good mr.

0:25:17.660,0:25:23.570
Coleman let's get it I I just I wanted

0:25:21.200,0:25:26.740
to say exactly what Linda did so good

0:25:23.570,0:25:30.919
job our parts department keeps bringing

0:25:26.740,0:25:34.280
interesting games and opportunities for

0:25:30.919,0:25:36.049
our residents I just think everything

0:25:34.280,0:25:39.100
their team is doing been and and

0:25:36.049,0:25:42.520
everybody in parks is hitting home runs

0:25:39.100,0:25:44.929
every week I think it's exciting and

0:25:42.520,0:25:46.580
like so much of what they've done I

0:25:44.929,0:25:49.370
think they're I think they're at the

0:25:46.580,0:25:52.700
forefront for the city to of you know

0:25:49.370,0:25:55.820
recognizing the diversity of age groups

0:25:52.700,0:25:58.490
and races and you know ethnic cultures

0:25:55.820,0:25:59.780
of of what might be attractive to

0:25:58.490,0:26:02.120
different groups of people playing

0:25:59.780,0:26:04.549
different sports so I'm really proud

0:26:02.120,0:26:07.000
that we have this on our agenda and that

0:26:04.549,0:26:10.760
we're moving forward a long time ago our

0:26:07.000,0:26:14.390
daughter played it at the soccer house

0:26:10.760,0:26:18.040
and nor Walker coming down there and it

0:26:14.390,0:26:21.200
is it is a it's a fun great game and

0:26:18.040,0:26:25.669
small court it'll be great and well use

0:26:21.200,0:26:32.710
so all right we have a motion for 4222 a

0:26:25.669,0:26:32.710
okay can I move 42 and 42 a thank you

0:26:32.970,0:26:38.830
you want to call something out it's good

0:26:37.210,0:26:40.240
job everybody that sounds like fun and

0:26:38.830,0:26:42.580
thank you again to the parts department

0:26:40.240,0:26:45.340
then glad to here with this boat we're

0:26:42.580,0:26:49.090
moving forward quickly let's move to

0:26:45.340,0:26:51.100
item 43 which is amended scheduled

0:26:49.090,0:26:53.230
administrative penalties for failure to

0:26:51.100,0:26:55.330
remove snow and ice from sidewalks in

0:26:53.230,0:26:59.280
violation chapter 102 with Misbah Code

0:26:55.330,0:27:05.110
Council communication number 19 - 505

0:26:59.280,0:27:06.910
Josh so right I took a look at this and

0:27:05.110,0:27:10.540
this comes kind of after the the work

0:27:06.910,0:27:12.570
session that we had and and I had asked

0:27:10.540,0:27:18.040
because we're essentially adding an

0:27:12.570,0:27:25.420
increased fee scale and adding what

0:27:18.040,0:27:28.300
third fourth and fifth fees right is is

0:27:25.420,0:27:31.750
what we were we were doing or adding a

0:27:28.300,0:27:36.370
few we're increasing the fee scale and

0:27:31.750,0:27:39.450
adding third fourth and fifth but we're

0:27:36.370,0:27:42.940
doing this within one snow season and

0:27:39.450,0:27:44.260
it's essentially I mean it's essentially

0:27:42.940,0:27:45.880
going to be meaningless if we keep it

0:27:44.260,0:27:49.120
within one snow season at least based on

0:27:45.880,0:27:54.520
past experience we've in the last five

0:27:49.120,0:27:56.740
years had zero third offenses but my

0:27:54.520,0:27:58.920
guess is the people who are getting

0:27:56.740,0:28:01.630
those first and second offenses are

0:27:58.920,0:28:06.100
probably oftentimes the same people year

0:28:01.630,0:28:07.810
after year so what I would propose and

0:28:06.100,0:28:12.430
rather than make this within a snow

0:28:07.810,0:28:18.250
season maybe make it within three snow

0:28:12.430,0:28:20.160
seasons I mean I would be curious as to

0:28:18.250,0:28:22.780
legals

0:28:20.160,0:28:24.370
you know we asked asked about that and I

0:28:22.780,0:28:26.860
think legal said that there there were

0:28:24.370,0:28:30.460
not issues but the longer the time

0:28:26.860,0:28:36.040
period and maybe we run into additional

0:28:30.460,0:28:40.510
risks I think the best way that I can

0:28:36.040,0:28:41.680
can explain our our concern is that the

0:28:40.510,0:28:43.610
its Channel

0:28:41.680,0:28:47.340
kind of the

0:28:43.610,0:28:49.170
mirror the opposite reflection back from

0:28:47.340,0:28:52.560
our discussion earlier when we talked

0:28:49.170,0:28:55.350
about compressing dates and times if we

0:28:52.560,0:28:58.260
extend dates and times out too far I

0:28:55.350,0:29:01.440
think it's gonna be hard to to hold that

0:28:58.260,0:29:03.090
that property owner to it and I think

0:29:01.440,0:29:04.620
the other concern that we would have is

0:29:03.090,0:29:07.050
that it would need to be the same

0:29:04.620,0:29:08.640
property owner not it's not just against

0:29:07.050,0:29:10.200
the property so it would have to be the

0:29:08.640,0:29:12.270
same property owner you you mean as a

0:29:10.200,0:29:14.310
sole and it's right if they sold it and

0:29:12.270,0:29:16.410
and then the next person that moves in I

0:29:14.310,0:29:18.660
don't think that we can charge them for

0:29:16.410,0:29:19.800
the whatever happens by the spread so

0:29:18.660,0:29:21.870
sure I think that's absolutely

0:29:19.800,0:29:24.420
reasonable okay would you have concern

0:29:21.870,0:29:26.910
with a five-year five five starts to be

0:29:24.420,0:29:28.470
too too too long that that gives us

0:29:26.910,0:29:30.690
concerns we'd want some time to flush

0:29:28.470,0:29:33.020
that out with more more research I three

0:29:30.690,0:29:33.020
three three

0:29:33.540,0:29:41.700
so could we could we amend this to a

0:29:35.520,0:29:44.700
three year I think longer you want to

0:29:41.700,0:29:47.400
hold them accountable because well I've

0:29:44.700,0:29:49.740
got a person that I never shovels that

0:29:47.400,0:29:51.690
lives in California hey didn't shovel

0:29:49.740,0:29:55.490
the last night and if you have a mild

0:29:51.690,0:29:57.900
winter in between to two heavy winters

0:29:55.490,0:30:00.450
which it looks like you know we've had a

0:29:57.900,0:30:02.280
few mild winters yeah I know it would be

0:30:00.450,0:30:03.810
for purposes of the record those would

0:30:02.280,0:30:05.760
be consecutive snow seasons that we're

0:30:03.810,0:30:07.500
talking about three three consecutive

0:30:05.760,0:30:09.210
snow season okay so the amended

0:30:07.500,0:30:11.750
scheduled administrative penalties for

0:30:09.210,0:30:15.600
failure to remove snow and ice from

0:30:11.750,0:30:19.800
sidewalks in violation chapter 102 of

0:30:15.600,0:30:28.230
the Municipal Code for a period of three

0:30:19.800,0:30:31.310
consecutive frequencies by Councillor

0:30:28.230,0:30:31.310
Mandelbaum move

0:30:35.059,0:30:48.289
seven yes motion carried all right that

0:30:41.599,0:30:53.129
since its 503 this takes us to hearings

0:30:48.289,0:30:55.109
our first hearing item is item 55 on the

0:30:53.129,0:30:58.649
conveyance of certain excess City

0:30:55.109,0:31:03.229
property owned acquired property owned

0:30:58.649,0:31:05.969
owned property acquired as part of 2018

0:31:03.229,0:31:09.569
limited voluntary flood buyout program

0:31:05.969,0:31:12.689
to the adjoining property owners for

0:31:09.569,0:31:15.779
side yard purposes only is there anyone

0:31:12.689,0:31:21.689
here that would like to speak on item 55

0:31:15.779,0:31:23.249
and will open the hearing anybody again

0:31:21.689,0:31:26.839
this is the limited voluntary flood

0:31:23.249,0:31:31.499
buyout program all right

0:31:26.839,0:31:33.739
can we have a motion and I'm 55 has been

0:31:31.499,0:31:33.739
moved

0:31:37.059,0:31:43.339
seven yes motion carried

0:31:39.649,0:31:45.289
item 56 it's not a request from the Des

0:31:43.339,0:31:47.019
Moines area community college BMAC is

0:31:45.289,0:31:51.229
the owner of Greg Martin is the officer

0:31:47.019,0:31:53.539
to rezone property at 10:31 and 1039 9th

0:31:51.229,0:31:55.549
Street from our four multi-family

0:31:53.539,0:31:57.859
residential to PUD Planned Unit

0:31:55.549,0:32:00.409
development and an amendment to the

0:31:57.859,0:32:02.379
Human Services campus PUD conceptual

0:32:00.409,0:32:06.229
plan for property in the vicinity of

0:32:02.379,0:32:09.139
1111 9th Street to expand the PUD

0:32:06.229,0:32:11.239
conceptual plan area to include the

0:32:09.139,0:32:13.699
property requested for rezoning and

0:32:11.239,0:32:15.829
extend the existing surface parking lot

0:32:13.699,0:32:17.989
additional property within the PUD

0:32:15.829,0:32:20.329
boundary is owned by the United Way of

0:32:17.989,0:32:22.579
central Iowa a is the first

0:32:20.329,0:32:24.469
consideration the ordinance above and B

0:32:22.579,0:32:26.299
is the final consideration the ORS above

0:32:24.469,0:32:29.179
the waivers requested by the applicant

0:32:26.299,0:32:32.419
and requires six votes in the applicant

0:32:29.179,0:32:34.579
again is d-mat it's open the hearing and

0:32:32.419,0:32:38.749
see if there's anyone in the audience to

0:32:34.579,0:32:44.829
speak to this item seeing none mr. mayor

0:32:38.749,0:32:44.829
I'll move 56 a and 56 be all right

0:32:47.930,0:32:57.270
seven yes motion carried all right to

0:32:54.150,0:32:59.190
Sodom 5707 approving an urban renewal

0:32:57.270,0:33:02.430
development agreement from connelly

0:32:59.190,0:33:09.660
lofts associates LP frank levy is the

0:33:02.430,0:33:11.580
officer to purchase and develop a

0:33:09.660,0:33:14.640
multi-family housing project on

0:33:11.580,0:33:17.550
city-owned property at 401 southeast 6th

0:33:14.640,0:33:20.010
Street and 400 South East 7th Street in

0:33:17.550,0:33:21.270
the metro center urban renewal area and

0:33:20.010,0:33:24.950
approving the conceptual development

0:33:21.270,0:33:27.960
plan council communication number 19 -

0:33:24.950,0:33:32.270
496 let's open the hearing and see if

0:33:27.960,0:33:32.270
there's anyone here to talk to item 57

0:33:32.390,0:33:35.790
anyone

0:33:33.570,0:33:40.190
I see now mr. mayor I'll move out of 57

0:33:35.790,0:33:43.440
item 57 has been moved any discussion I

0:33:40.190,0:33:49.170
I'll just uh I'll just add a couple

0:33:43.440,0:33:51.210
things before we vote on this I know the

0:33:49.170,0:33:54.320
developers worked on the energy

0:33:51.210,0:33:57.630
efficiency program as well as looking at

0:33:54.320,0:33:58.740
running conduit for evey charging I

0:33:57.630,0:34:04.230
appreciate those efforts

0:33:58.740,0:34:06.630
I want to encourage I I don't I don't

0:34:04.230,0:34:08.490
know the specifics on what you looked at

0:34:06.630,0:34:12.690
in the mid-america new construction

0:34:08.490,0:34:15.630
program but I think it'd be great to get

0:34:12.690,0:34:18.900
a little little farther beyond the the

0:34:15.630,0:34:20.490
building code then you currently are at

0:34:18.900,0:34:23.040
but we can talk about that separately

0:34:20.490,0:34:26.910
offline I'll support the project and

0:34:23.040,0:34:30.530
appreciate the efforts thanks Josh do

0:34:26.910,0:34:30.530
you want me to take that again yeah

0:34:34.000,0:34:39.849
do we still get to be talking about

0:34:35.440,0:34:42.099
Conley laughs after three is it build it

0:34:39.849,0:34:55.780
can we can we build it monthly updates

0:34:42.099,0:34:59.140
yeah good item 58 this is dismissing a

0:34:55.780,0:35:01.960
hearing to rezone 601 24th Street in 602

0:34:59.140,0:35:04.450
23rd street from our 161 family low

0:35:01.960,0:35:06.970
density residential to eliminate our

0:35:04.450,0:35:09.040
three multi-family residential to allow

0:35:06.970,0:35:11.950
the development of up to seven units of

0:35:09.040,0:35:14.280
three-story row house dwellings this

0:35:11.950,0:35:18.280
item was continued from the October 14

0:35:14.280,0:35:21.099
2019 council meeting again this motion

0:35:18.280,0:35:22.089
is to dismiss this hearing anyone here

0:35:21.099,0:35:28.290
to speak to this item

0:35:22.089,0:35:28.290
I'll move item 58 item 58 has been moved

0:35:30.240,0:35:38.680
seven yes motion carries item 59 is a

0:35:35.619,0:35:43.200
Lee Town Creek Way box culvert from Dean

0:35:38.680,0:35:45.910
Avenue to UPR our resolution improving

0:35:43.200,0:35:47.260
plans specifications form of contract

0:35:45.910,0:35:49.390
documents and the engineer's estimate

0:35:47.260,0:35:53.470
and designating the lowest responsible

0:35:49.390,0:35:56.380
bidder as SM inches and Sons Inc Stephen

0:35:53.470,0:35:58.270
M hench as president five million four

0:35:56.380,0:36:00.609
hundred and twenty four thousand two

0:35:58.270,0:36:03.940
hundred and twenty one dollars council

0:36:00.609,0:36:05.980
communication number 19 - 491 a is

0:36:03.940,0:36:08.349
approving the contract and the bond and

0:36:05.980,0:36:12.720
permission to sublet muscle in the

0:36:08.349,0:36:18.700
hearing on item 59 on the Leigh Township

0:36:12.720,0:36:21.010
Creek Way anyone step up sir sir mayor

0:36:18.700,0:36:23.579
members of the council dan Manning 317

0:36:21.010,0:36:26.859
sixth Avenue des Moines Iowa

0:36:23.579,0:36:30.250
representing the tenant at 3121 Deane

0:36:26.859,0:36:33.790
feed energy here tonight not to objected

0:36:30.250,0:36:35.560
the project frankly to make it clear

0:36:33.790,0:36:37.810
that on behalf of the tenant that we

0:36:35.560,0:36:40.569
appreciate both the staff and the

0:36:37.810,0:36:42.609
council involvement in this matter what

0:36:40.569,0:36:45.680
we're down to is the staging of this

0:36:42.609,0:36:48.440
project as the easement is

0:36:45.680,0:36:51.740
as the as the culvert is installed

0:36:48.440,0:36:54.470
across the 3121 beam property we had a

0:36:51.740,0:36:56.300
very productive meeting with we feel

0:36:54.470,0:36:57.980
like we did we're not there yet but we

0:36:56.300,0:37:00.470
think what this thing is moving forward

0:36:57.980,0:37:02.360
and we're going to get get to that aget

0:37:00.470,0:37:04.370
to the point where we have a resolution

0:37:02.360,0:37:06.770
that's certainly our goal we're here

0:37:04.370,0:37:08.510
tonight just because we want to make

0:37:06.770,0:37:11.570
sure that everyone just understands that

0:37:08.510,0:37:14.330
we appreciate where we are where we need

0:37:11.570,0:37:15.980
to be and we certainly support the

0:37:14.330,0:37:19.070
project and we hope we can get this

0:37:15.980,0:37:21.680
staging issue resolved mr. mayor

0:37:19.070,0:37:22.400
yes thank you I appreciate the

0:37:21.680,0:37:25.460
involvement

0:37:22.400,0:37:27.020
mr. mayor was there and myself and we I

0:37:25.460,0:37:31.790
thought we had a productive meeting with

0:37:27.020,0:37:34.160
your owner obviously we know that we we

0:37:31.790,0:37:36.650
have to come up with a resolution sooner

0:37:34.160,0:37:38.420
than later we understand your time we

0:37:36.650,0:37:40.370
understand your timeline and and I'm

0:37:38.420,0:37:44.330
hoping that you know with the help of

0:37:40.370,0:37:46.220
staff and they've been very very good to

0:37:44.330,0:37:48.800
work with us I feel like they've been

0:37:46.220,0:37:50.720
bending over backwards and trying to

0:37:48.800,0:37:54.260
come up with the resolution but you know

0:37:50.720,0:37:56.390
we have many many homes that are

0:37:54.260,0:37:59.870
affected and we appreciate that and as

0:37:56.390,0:38:01.940
well and we we appreciate everyone's

0:37:59.870,0:38:05.240
involved yep yeah thank you so I will

0:38:01.940,0:38:07.900
move that being said I will move item 59

0:38:05.240,0:38:07.900
and 59 a

0:38:11.290,0:38:18.950
seven yes motion carried

0:38:15.220,0:38:21.460
item sixty is on the Simon Estes River

0:38:18.950,0:38:23.870
sheeting resolution proving the plans

0:38:21.460,0:38:25.160
specifications form of contract

0:38:23.870,0:38:27.020
documents engineer's estimate

0:38:25.160,0:38:28.930
designating the lowest responsible

0:38:27.020,0:38:32.780
bidder as Kramer and Associates Inc

0:38:28.930,0:38:34.730
Robert Kramer president and CEO four

0:38:32.780,0:38:36.320
hundred and seventeen thousand three

0:38:34.730,0:38:39.230
hundred and fifty dollars council

0:38:36.320,0:38:41.630
communication number 19 - 492 is

0:38:39.230,0:38:44.480
approving the contract and the bond and

0:38:41.630,0:38:47.330
I will open the hearing and ask if

0:38:44.480,0:38:50.000
there's anyone here to speak to this

0:38:47.330,0:38:56.270
item at the Simon Estes River cheating

0:38:50.000,0:39:04.400
project anyone I see none I'll move

0:38:56.270,0:39:06.580
sixty and sixty a seven yes motion

0:39:04.400,0:39:11.770
carried

0:39:06.580,0:39:15.110
all right let's note that it is 5:12 and

0:39:11.770,0:39:19.340
that completes the hearings and takes us

0:39:15.110,0:39:23.060
back title 49 Adam 49 is an ordinance

0:39:19.340,0:39:25.390
second consideration that was pulled by

0:39:23.060,0:39:28.040
councilmember gato its amending chapter

0:39:25.390,0:39:30.130
114 of the Mizpah code relating to the

0:39:28.040,0:39:33.320
rates for city parking garage

0:39:30.130,0:39:34.640
Raja's a is the final consideration in

0:39:33.320,0:39:36.230
the orange above and the waiver is

0:39:34.640,0:39:41.480
requested by the city manager and

0:39:36.230,0:39:43.600
requires six votes Joe yeah so mr. mayor

0:39:41.480,0:39:48.320
thank you we had a lengthy discussion

0:39:43.600,0:39:51.950
about our budget this morning and the

0:39:48.320,0:39:55.210
new garage at East Fourth and Des Moines

0:39:51.950,0:39:58.840
Street were waiting for the control arms

0:39:55.210,0:40:02.450
they weren't gonna be installed until

0:39:58.840,0:40:04.580
middle of January maybe the end of

0:40:02.450,0:40:08.900
January February one they were going to

0:40:04.580,0:40:11.290
be installed so councilmember bows them

0:40:08.900,0:40:13.730
and myself and the rest of the council

0:40:11.290,0:40:15.890
agreed that it would be beneficial for

0:40:13.730,0:40:18.230
the East Village to allow some

0:40:15.890,0:40:21.260
additional parking there and we would do

0:40:18.230,0:40:24.290
that until January 1 for free in the

0:40:21.260,0:40:27.230
lower level of that parking garage

0:40:24.290,0:40:28.400
so that'll be part of this resolution I

0:40:27.230,0:40:32.090
I believe that that was written

0:40:28.400,0:40:33.410
incorrect it's maybe what was change was

0:40:32.090,0:40:35.720
the effect of the day that's made

0:40:33.410,0:40:38.090
January 1 2020 so there's no okay

0:40:35.720,0:40:40.520
changing the rate until January 1 2020

0:40:38.090,0:40:42.800
right okay so that one so we'll be able

0:40:40.520,0:40:46.550
to enter that one free of charge be able

0:40:42.800,0:40:47.780
to use it so I would encourage hopefully

0:40:46.550,0:40:49.670
we will be able to get the word out to

0:40:47.780,0:40:51.620
the business owners maybe some of their

0:40:49.670,0:40:54.620
property some of their employees can use

0:40:51.620,0:40:56.660
it if not obviously I'm hoping some of

0:40:54.620,0:40:58.840
the shoppers can use it in the East

0:40:56.660,0:41:01.460
Village that they're going to be there

0:40:58.840,0:41:04.850
so I will move that being said I will

0:41:01.460,0:41:07.190
move 49 and 49 a and that relates

0:41:04.850,0:41:09.560
specifically to the first level only the

0:41:07.190,0:41:13.160
first level is only the public parking

0:41:09.560,0:41:16.280
for for that garage the rest is lease

0:41:13.160,0:41:18.380
parking it's my understanding that's the

0:41:16.280,0:41:20.750
holiday gift they spell it it is the

0:41:18.380,0:41:24.560
holiday gift to the East Village yes and

0:41:20.750,0:41:27.040
thank you for that it was a brilliant

0:41:24.560,0:41:27.040
idea by you

0:41:29.740,0:41:40.030
good job she understands retail I shared

0:41:37.450,0:41:42.220
this idea earlier at the CBB and they

0:41:40.030,0:41:44.380
were all fake all right yeah it takes us

0:41:42.220,0:41:46.900
to item 51 that was the end of the

0:41:44.380,0:41:50.829
consent agenda our last item was that

0:41:46.900,0:41:52.780
item 49 51 is emitting various sections

0:41:50.829,0:41:54.790
of chapter 26 the Municipal Code

0:41:52.780,0:41:57.430
regarding the adoption of the state of

0:41:54.790,0:42:01.710
Iowa plumbing code and Mechanical Code

0:41:57.430,0:42:04.750
Council communication number 19 - 499 a

0:42:01.710,0:42:08.109
the energy code these are building and

0:42:04.750,0:42:09.369
building regulation 1 is the final

0:42:08.109,0:42:11.589
consideration the orange above the

0:42:09.369,0:42:13.720
waivers requested requested by Chris

0:42:11.589,0:42:15.550
Johansen who is the community

0:42:13.720,0:42:20.200
development department director it

0:42:15.550,0:42:24.040
requires 6 votes be his buildings and

0:42:20.200,0:42:25.660
building regulations 1 is the final

0:42:24.040,0:42:28.089
consideration the orders of the waivers

0:42:25.660,0:42:30.420
requested again by Chris Johansen

0:42:28.089,0:42:34.240
Community Development Department

0:42:30.420,0:42:37.210
director and again requires six votes C

0:42:34.240,0:42:40.960
is the national fuel gas code amendments

0:42:37.210,0:42:42.430
mechanical code and fuel gas code 1 is

0:42:40.960,0:42:44.109
the final consideration the orange above

0:42:42.430,0:42:46.150
the waivers again requested by Krista

0:42:44.109,0:42:51.190
Hanson Community Development Department

0:42:46.150,0:42:55.420
director and requires six votes D is an

0:42:51.190,0:42:57.520
adoption to the state plumbing code 1

0:42:55.420,0:42:59.109
under that is the final consideration in

0:42:57.520,0:43:01.780
the ordinance above and again the waiver

0:42:59.109,0:43:02.829
is requested by Chris Johnson the

0:43:01.780,0:43:05.470
Community Development Department

0:43:02.829,0:43:08.740
Director and again requires six votes

0:43:05.470,0:43:10.480
let's open it up and see if anybody has

0:43:08.740,0:43:14.460
any comments on any of these code

0:43:10.480,0:43:17.950
amendments anything anybody I have a

0:43:14.460,0:43:21.099
question on help me what number that is

0:43:17.950,0:43:23.950
hey I don't I meant to ask this

0:43:21.099,0:43:27.609
beforehand so I apologize but 51a the

0:43:23.950,0:43:33.329
energy code I don't know what changes

0:43:27.609,0:43:33.329
are being made to that I don't know what

0:43:33.730,0:43:42.770
yeah you know it's it's a that I'm

0:43:36.770,0:43:43.339
interested in understanding that's why

0:43:42.770,0:43:46.069
he's here

0:43:43.339,0:43:47.839
I'm sure you know mr. mayor members of

0:43:46.069,0:43:50.990
council Cody Christensen permit develop

0:43:47.839,0:43:53.480
an administrator mr. Mandelbaum in

0:43:50.990,0:43:58.460
response to your question a number of

0:43:53.480,0:44:00.500
these like items a B and C are merely

0:43:58.460,0:44:03.200
changing out the references to the

0:44:00.500,0:44:05.420
International plumbing code and the

0:44:03.200,0:44:07.849
International Mechanical Code to read

0:44:05.420,0:44:10.849
the state plumbing code in the state

0:44:07.849,0:44:13.069
mechanical good ok so that's all that

0:44:10.849,0:44:14.690
it's doing within the energy code it is

0:44:13.069,0:44:16.819
yeah it's just changing the references

0:44:14.690,0:44:19.760
state mechanical code but it's not

0:44:16.819,0:44:22.789
changing to the state energy code no

0:44:19.760,0:44:25.130
it's not ok I asked a similar question

0:44:22.789,0:44:28.220
and it turned out as I looked into it

0:44:25.130,0:44:30.260
was about nuts and bolts and in sealing

0:44:28.220,0:44:32.180
materials and stuff like that as opposed

0:44:30.260,0:44:36.859
to efficiency which is what I was hoping

0:44:32.180,0:44:41.750
it was about but I guess this is a very

0:44:36.859,0:44:45.079
specific change in how these systems

0:44:41.750,0:44:47.900
were put together it is and and the code

0:44:45.079,0:44:49.609
cycles don't specifically line up where

0:44:47.900,0:44:51.829
the state adopts the plumbing and

0:44:49.609,0:44:54.500
mechanical codes it doesn't line up with

0:44:51.829,0:44:56.420
the adoption cycle that we we use for

0:44:54.500,0:44:57.770
adopting our other codes that's why you

0:44:56.420,0:45:00.740
see the amendments to some of these

0:44:57.770,0:45:04.160
other codes that reference those - all

0:45:00.740,0:45:10.099
right any other questions I see none

0:45:04.160,0:45:15.680
I'll move 51 a B C and D do I have to do

0:45:10.099,0:45:17.170
51 a 151 B 151 C 1 and 50 1 D 1 thank

0:45:15.680,0:45:19.549
you you're welcome

0:45:17.170,0:45:21.309
it's a mouthful you would think I would

0:45:19.549,0:45:23.299
know that by now

0:45:21.309,0:45:25.400
Josh I don't know where you were going

0:45:23.299,0:45:28.430
with it but I was hoping that we were

0:45:25.400,0:45:29.920
gonna be looking at energy code updates

0:45:28.430,0:45:32.990
that were maybe a little more stringent

0:45:29.920,0:45:34.609
in terms of performance of equipment and

0:45:32.990,0:45:36.260
that sort of thing but but if that

0:45:34.609,0:45:39.650
wasn't what it was about and my concern

0:45:36.260,0:45:41.240
was that we weren't our code is better

0:45:39.650,0:45:43.430
than the state code on the energy code

0:45:41.240,0:45:44.800
and I don't want a back crack yep I'm

0:45:43.430,0:45:53.260
with you

0:45:44.800,0:45:57.730
seven yes motion carried all right that

0:45:53.260,0:46:00.550
takes us to item 52 item 52 is amending

0:45:57.730,0:46:02.770
chapter 114 admissible code regarding

0:46:00.550,0:46:06.700
traffic regulation changes as follows

0:46:02.770,0:46:08.770
counsel communication number 19 - 494 he

0:46:06.700,0:46:11.590
has a proposed parking restriction

0:46:08.770,0:46:14.500
Evergreen Avenue between southeast 19th

0:46:11.590,0:46:16.690
Street and southeast 20th Street be is a

0:46:14.500,0:46:19.119
code modifications related to school

0:46:16.690,0:46:21.730
passenger loading and unloading on Park

0:46:19.119,0:46:25.330
Avenue and South West 7th Street to Park

0:46:21.730,0:46:26.920
Avenue Elementary School let's go ahead

0:46:25.330,0:46:28.390
and ask if there's anyone here that

0:46:26.920,0:46:32.800
would like to speak to any of these

0:46:28.390,0:46:35.890
items mening chapter 114 mr. mayor real

0:46:32.800,0:46:37.720
quick this was this issue was brought up

0:46:35.890,0:46:40.210
the meeting that you and I are at the

0:46:37.720,0:46:42.580
neighborhood meeting and so hats off to

0:46:40.210,0:46:44.320
our staff because they've moved in a

0:46:42.580,0:46:47.860
matter of three weeks putting this on

0:46:44.320,0:46:49.930
the agenda and in making this the the

0:46:47.860,0:46:53.490
parking restriction on evergreen and yep

0:46:49.930,0:46:56.020
we had a citizen can tell us about it

0:46:53.490,0:46:58.240
the next day I've made the phone call

0:46:56.020,0:46:59.650
they went out and checked it and you

0:46:58.240,0:47:00.970
know sure enough three weeks later we've

0:46:59.650,0:47:02.890
got it on the agenda we're gonna have a

0:47:00.970,0:47:04.990
sign-up so yeah great follow-up post

0:47:02.890,0:47:07.359
about thank you really really good and

0:47:04.990,0:47:10.060
good response time it's something that's

0:47:07.359,0:47:11.500
a public safety issue that that worked

0:47:10.060,0:47:14.530
out really good so thank you Steve and

0:47:11.500,0:47:15.720
your team really do appreciate the quick

0:47:14.530,0:47:18.730
response

0:47:15.720,0:47:21.930
I'll move fifty to a and B if no one

0:47:18.730,0:47:21.930
else has any other comments

0:47:22.960,0:47:27.000
and I'll waive the second and third

0:47:24.700,0:47:27.000
reading

0:47:30.639,0:47:34.969
seven yes motion carried

0:47:32.929,0:47:40.269
I thought you were just waving at

0:47:34.969,0:47:40.269
everyone hey this one to talk

0:47:40.299,0:47:46.039
alright item 53 was not used moves this

0:47:43.489,0:47:49.639
item 54 these are items regarding the

0:47:46.039,0:47:52.039
annual urban renewal report a URR and

0:47:49.639,0:47:54.439
tax increment financing TIF

0:47:52.039,0:47:59.239
certification accounts communication

0:47:54.439,0:48:01.039
number 19 - 500 - pays advance of funds

0:47:59.239,0:48:03.499
to the Metro Center urban renewal

0:48:01.039,0:48:07.069
project for planning oversight and

0:48:03.499,0:48:08.689
administration for $800,000 be is a

0:48:07.069,0:48:12.679
recommendation from the city manager

0:48:08.689,0:48:16.339
regarding TIF needs for fiscal year 2020

0:48:12.679,0:48:19.639
through 2021 and a certification of TIF

0:48:16.339,0:48:22.219
indebtedness see is the urban renewal

0:48:19.639,0:48:26.149
report for the urban renewal plans and

0:48:22.219,0:48:28.459
areas within the City of Des Moines we

0:48:26.149,0:48:30.859
did begin a discussion on this this

0:48:28.459,0:48:34.569
morning however I think that this is

0:48:30.859,0:48:39.349
going to be taken up at one of our next

0:48:34.569,0:48:42.019
it's been well so any rate if anybody

0:48:39.349,0:48:46.519
has any thoughts regarding the Schmid

0:48:42.019,0:48:50.839
Daria's and and tip areas I otherwise

0:48:46.519,0:48:53.029
will look for a - I will move it I I did

0:48:50.839,0:48:57.799
ask in preparation for the agenda and

0:48:53.029,0:48:59.239
maybe everybody got this list but you

0:48:57.799,0:49:03.169
know most of the TIF things that we've

0:48:59.239,0:49:05.869
done have been 20 years Matt Matt you

0:49:03.169,0:49:08.689
know authored a number of those that's

0:49:05.869,0:49:11.149
significant because the real uptick in

0:49:08.689,0:49:13.429
our ability to leverage TIF for the

0:49:11.149,0:49:17.509
citizens of the Moines started about 20

0:49:13.429,0:49:20.149
years ago and this year and every year

0:49:17.509,0:49:22.549
going forward some of those early TIF

0:49:20.149,0:49:24.499
projects are going to roll off early on

0:49:22.549,0:49:26.599
they were like everything for 20 years

0:49:24.499,0:49:28.159
you know and just like the hotels and

0:49:26.599,0:49:31.399
others we have it you know now they're

0:49:28.159,0:49:33.619
getting 75% for ten years instead of a

0:49:31.399,0:49:35.569
hundred percent for 20 anyway

0:49:33.619,0:49:39.309
the next couple years are going to be

0:49:35.569,0:49:42.649
big for the city as projects like

0:49:39.309,0:49:43.280
nationwide all those buildings come off

0:49:42.649,0:49:45.710
and

0:49:43.280,0:49:48.710
start to pour a lot of funds into the

0:49:45.710,0:49:50.900
city coffers because the investment we

0:49:48.710,0:49:53.660
made 20 years ago and I hope that you

0:49:50.900,0:49:55.760
celebrate that as as those start to come

0:49:53.660,0:49:59.300
off nationwide is called a line on that

0:49:55.760,0:50:02.900
list but well mark 20 22 well mark comes

0:49:59.300,0:50:06.950
off quicker because that that was a more

0:50:02.900,0:50:08.420
recent one didn't last as long and you

0:50:06.950,0:50:10.760
know a lot of us are concerned about

0:50:08.420,0:50:12.530
different aspects of these but you know

0:50:10.760,0:50:16.070
a lot of this TIF stuff helped them

0:50:12.530,0:50:18.580
become more you know lead compliant in

0:50:16.070,0:50:20.960
terms of energy efficiency and and

0:50:18.580,0:50:23.950
making sure that they had real jobs and

0:50:20.960,0:50:28.070
they weren't just hollow shells of

0:50:23.950,0:50:29.600
servers for instance you know this has

0:50:28.070,0:50:33.290
worked out really well for the city and

0:50:29.600,0:50:35.330
I think we're gonna see all that

0:50:33.290,0:50:37.700
investment in hard decisions of the

0:50:35.330,0:50:39.410
council pay off and I hope that you

0:50:37.700,0:50:41.330
celebrate it and that's kind of an early

0:50:39.410,0:50:44.480
list as we look at the next three or

0:50:41.330,0:50:46.940
four years you know I think that that to

0:50:44.480,0:50:49.910
your point is we've changed those

0:50:46.940,0:50:51.920
policies we've seen a roll up of the

0:50:49.910,0:50:55.280
amount of money that's coming out of

0:50:51.920,0:50:57.440
those projects that is being released

0:50:55.280,0:50:59.900
into the general fund to support school

0:50:57.440,0:51:02.770
district and in the county and and

0:50:59.900,0:51:07.100
whatever and I think that numbers I know

0:51:02.770,0:51:10.690
gone from like 8 to 30 million more yeah

0:51:07.100,0:51:13.700
in in the recent past so hats off to our

0:51:10.690,0:51:18.590
budget finance people and in looking at

0:51:13.700,0:51:20.600
it we pushed very hard to look at those

0:51:18.590,0:51:22.790
kinds of projects and how they're funded

0:51:20.600,0:51:26.030
and make sure that that everything that

0:51:22.790,0:51:27.380
we do is moving forward to supporting

0:51:26.030,0:51:29.000
the whole city and moving forward in

0:51:27.380,0:51:30.980
this it's some of those funds are what

0:51:29.000,0:51:33.290
allows us to make the investments that I

0:51:30.980,0:51:35.150
talked about earlier so good point mr.

0:51:33.290,0:51:37.790
Coleman we keep getting smarter you made

0:51:35.150,0:51:39.770
the point about returning to the county

0:51:37.790,0:51:41.330
and the school district we talked about

0:51:39.770,0:51:43.850
the need for better mental health that's

0:51:41.330,0:51:45.740
what the county does that funds you know

0:51:43.850,0:51:47.420
returning that to them gives them the

0:51:45.740,0:51:49.430
necessary funds to do that we could

0:51:47.420,0:51:52.280
consume that the the other thing that

0:51:49.430,0:51:53.900
goes I think I noticed by many is we're

0:51:52.280,0:51:56.360
using this more and more for leverage

0:51:53.900,0:51:56.869
Joe has a really good hotel project in

0:51:56.360,0:51:59.569
the East

0:51:56.869,0:52:01.279
they got TIF money because we didn't

0:51:59.569,0:52:03.289
want any parking on the first floor you

0:52:01.279,0:52:06.559
know we wanted some commercial and

0:52:03.289,0:52:08.329
retail and restaurants or a bar and so

0:52:06.559,0:52:09.890
it's helping us design a better City as

0:52:08.329,0:52:15.499
well that'll be more sustainable

0:52:09.890,0:52:19.819
long-term yep I'll move it I don't have

0:52:15.499,0:52:26.719
it in front of me but it's 54:54 a B and

0:52:19.819,0:52:30.109
G and c7 yes

0:52:26.719,0:52:33.940
motion carries all right that takes us

0:52:30.109,0:52:33.940
to one extra item that's on the

0:52:34.119,0:52:40.579
steepening that was added and it's the

0:52:38.809,0:52:44.150
directions of the city manager regarding

0:52:40.579,0:52:46.160
a tax levy decrease of 40 cents per

0:52:44.150,0:52:48.979
thousand valuation for the homeowners

0:52:46.160,0:52:54.019
and small businesses city of Des Moines

0:52:48.979,0:52:56.359
and sponsor as myself quickly will read

0:52:54.019,0:52:59.539
the direction to the city manager

0:52:56.359,0:53:02.029
regarding this he is to look at a budget

0:52:59.539,0:53:05.390
and show us what that looks like and how

0:53:02.029,0:53:07.249
that might be achieved but whereas the

0:53:05.390,0:53:09.200
mayor and city council acknowledge the

0:53:07.249,0:53:11.450
affordable homes and neighborhoods are

0:53:09.200,0:53:13.670
critical to the success of our city and

0:53:11.450,0:53:17.180
whereas keeping property taxes low is

0:53:13.670,0:53:19.849
critical to ensuring our city remains

0:53:17.180,0:53:22.160
affordable and whereas the mayor and

0:53:19.849,0:53:25.460
city council have already lowered the

0:53:22.160,0:53:29.089
city's total property tax levy by 60

0:53:25.460,0:53:31.910
cents per 1000 in value in 2019 and

0:53:29.089,0:53:33.829
whereas the city has new revenue from

0:53:31.910,0:53:35.450
the local option sales and service tax

0:53:33.829,0:53:37.819
in the city's homeowners are

0:53:35.450,0:53:42.229
experiencing rising home values and

0:53:37.819,0:53:44.509
whereas at the November 18 2019 city

0:53:42.229,0:53:47.180
council work session the mayor proposed

0:53:44.509,0:53:49.460
decreasing the total property tax rate

0:53:47.180,0:53:51.920
an additional 40 cents per 1,000

0:53:49.460,0:53:53.619
valuation in the council believes that

0:53:51.920,0:53:57.680
such an additional decrease is

0:53:53.619,0:53:59.390
appropriate and for benefit of its

0:53:57.680,0:54:02.119
citizens and small business owners

0:53:59.390,0:54:07.369
resulting in a cumulative total property

0:54:02.119,0:54:09.780
tax levy disk decrease of $1.00 in 2019

0:54:07.369,0:54:13.620
this would be enacted I believe in tooth

0:54:09.780,0:54:19.530
in 2021 to the lowest tax rate in over

0:54:13.620,0:54:24.570
24 years how long 24 years that's before

0:54:19.530,0:54:25.830
you and now therefore be it resolved by

0:54:24.570,0:54:27.540
the City Council of the City of Des

0:54:25.830,0:54:30.300
Moines that the council is hereby

0:54:27.540,0:54:34.110
directing the city manager to recommend

0:54:30.300,0:54:36.720
a budget for the fiscal year 2021 which

0:54:34.110,0:54:41.970
reduces the city's total property tax

0:54:36.720,0:54:45.330
levy by an additional 60 cents or 40

0:54:41.970,0:54:47.960
cents I'm sorry for 1,000 in valuation

0:54:45.330,0:54:50.790
and we've asked him to look at that and

0:54:47.960,0:54:52.350
kind of look at all of our priorities

0:54:50.790,0:54:55.140
that we mentioned earlier that we're

0:54:52.350,0:54:58.400
moving forward with and made commitments

0:54:55.140,0:55:00.930
for to our citizens but we think it's

0:54:58.400,0:55:03.870
important that that he give us a

0:55:00.930,0:55:06.450
recommendation back in regard to our

0:55:03.870,0:55:10.230
request so that would be what I'm

0:55:06.450,0:55:12.560
putting forward for a for about this

0:55:10.230,0:55:12.560
evening

0:55:13.420,0:55:19.960
anybody I I'll start I'm sure other

0:55:17.259,0:55:22.509
people have stuff I think that this is

0:55:19.960,0:55:26.289
brilliant you know one of the reasons

0:55:22.509,0:55:28.589
why why we're elected by the people is

0:55:26.289,0:55:32.230
we have to go out and listen to them and

0:55:28.589,0:55:35.920
what I've heard more than any time in my

0:55:32.230,0:55:38.349
career on the council is that people are

0:55:35.920,0:55:41.859
happy that their assessments are going

0:55:38.349,0:55:42.369
out you know that's I put on Facebook

0:55:41.859,0:55:45.489
today

0:55:42.369,0:55:48.489
that's my largest investment I don't

0:55:45.489,0:55:51.609
have any investment that I root for that

0:55:48.489,0:55:54.309
it doesn't go up my retirement is

0:55:51.609,0:55:57.190
dependent on it it's like my 401 K or a

0:55:54.309,0:56:00.069
you know a money market I want it to go

0:55:57.190,0:56:02.440
up in value as much as it can but when

0:56:00.069,0:56:03.999
it goes up too quick because that's part

0:56:02.440,0:56:07.359
of the formula for what your taxes are

0:56:03.999,0:56:10.480
the city has to respond and Mayor I'm

0:56:07.359,0:56:16.019
really proud of you for recognizing that

0:56:10.480,0:56:20.829
and recommending this to the council I

0:56:16.019,0:56:23.710
I'm sensitive that were were we run the

0:56:20.829,0:56:25.900
risk while other communities have been

0:56:23.710,0:56:28.720
able to cut their taxes more drastically

0:56:25.900,0:56:31.539
that we're gonna fall behind and give

0:56:28.720,0:56:33.579
people a convenient excuse to move away

0:56:31.539,0:56:35.890
not raise their family here by their

0:56:33.579,0:56:37.809
second house in a different community we

0:56:35.890,0:56:39.880
want people to come to Des Moines stay

0:56:37.809,0:56:41.410
here and live here for life and part of

0:56:39.880,0:56:44.049
that is respecting that pressure on

0:56:41.410,0:56:47.170
their own budget and us spending money

0:56:44.049,0:56:50.579
like you know like it's our own and so

0:56:47.170,0:56:53.140
being reasonable in the tax levy is

0:56:50.579,0:56:57.249
brilliant and I appreciate your

0:56:53.140,0:56:59.829
leadership on this and to everybody in

0:56:57.249,0:57:04.150
the audience you know we have been

0:56:59.829,0:57:06.970
starting our budget discussions a couple

0:57:04.150,0:57:09.640
three months ago moving into this season

0:57:06.970,0:57:13.269
because we've got to certify March 15th

0:57:09.640,0:57:15.430
and it's important that we move this

0:57:13.269,0:57:18.849
discussion forward and give direction to

0:57:15.430,0:57:24.249
our staff and to our city manager and

0:57:18.849,0:57:27.369
his his team we can't wait another few

0:57:24.249,0:57:29.170
weeks or another month to have this

0:57:27.369,0:57:31.210
these staff members have their

0:57:29.170,0:57:34.029
responsibilities they have to look at

0:57:31.210,0:57:37.089
the implications here and give us a

0:57:34.029,0:57:41.049
report back as we look at finalizing

0:57:37.089,0:57:43.690
this this budget for the 2020 2021

0:57:41.049,0:57:46.660
fiscal year and so it's our

0:57:43.690,0:57:49.269
responsibility to have respect to the to

0:57:46.660,0:57:51.490
the staff to move this directive forward

0:57:49.269,0:57:54.910
so that they can give us appropriate

0:57:51.490,0:57:57.069
feedback in direction so with that being

0:57:54.910,0:58:00.039
said anybody else have anything yep I

0:57:57.069,0:58:04.680
too support it mayor thank you very much

0:58:00.039,0:58:07.720
this will help the citizens in our city

0:58:04.680,0:58:11.410
mr. mayor thank you for bringing this

0:58:07.720,0:58:13.150
bringing this up obviously we've been a

0:58:11.410,0:58:15.690
lot of neighborhood beatings together

0:58:13.150,0:58:20.950
we've been talking to our residents

0:58:15.690,0:58:29.799
heard a lot about assessments which we

0:58:20.950,0:58:33.160
don't control but I think it's important

0:58:29.799,0:58:37.809
to note to our residents that with a 40

0:58:33.160,0:58:39.970
cent decrease this doesn't affect an end

0:58:37.809,0:58:44.589
to our employees of the city it doesn't

0:58:39.970,0:58:48.250
in fact that we're doing cuts to you

0:58:44.589,0:58:50.950
know services that that is not we're

0:58:48.250,0:58:53.650
looking to do our assessment has grown

0:58:50.950,0:58:55.720
tremendously and will go into effect

0:58:53.650,0:58:57.880
this fall so if we don't react to that

0:58:55.720,0:59:00.130
and I've said it from the very beginning

0:58:57.880,0:59:02.049
I wouldn't vote for a budget that didn't

0:59:00.130,0:59:04.240
have a significant increase and I think

0:59:02.049,0:59:06.880
this is significant we are still going

0:59:04.240,0:59:11.289
to see an increase in property taxes

0:59:06.880,0:59:14.140
we're not decrease - I mean you went a

0:59:11.289,0:59:16.539
significant decrease is a significant

0:59:14.140,0:59:19.000
decrease but I do believe with the

0:59:16.539,0:59:20.920
assessment of that this the dollar

0:59:19.000,0:59:23.750
amount that we're all the way to pay is

0:59:20.920,0:59:25.250
not going to be less and

0:59:23.750,0:59:27.410
I think that we need to make sure that

0:59:25.250,0:59:30.470
we're clarifying that and we're not

0:59:27.410,0:59:33.020
reducing the services that were going to

0:59:30.470,0:59:34.700
provide to our citizens and no employees

0:59:33.020,0:59:38.450
are gonna lose their job when we talk

0:59:34.700,0:59:40.100
about a decrease in the levy rate so I

0:59:38.450,0:59:41.870
think that's important that everyone

0:59:40.100,0:59:45.800
knows that to all of our employees in to

0:59:41.870,0:59:47.360
all of our residents I think this is

0:59:45.800,0:59:48.080
really a great step in the right

0:59:47.360,0:59:50.530
direction

0:59:48.080,0:59:53.510
I'm sure the Scots going to come up with

0:59:50.530,0:59:55.940
a great budget that we're still going to

0:59:53.510,0:59:59.750
be able to do all of our CIP all of our

0:59:55.940,1:00:02.780
CIP things we're gonna be able to still

0:59:59.750,1:00:04.130
keep our services where what we have

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promised that we're going to provide

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that we're still going to be able to do

1:00:06.380,1:00:10.820
that and no one's going to lose their

1:00:09.230,1:00:13.550
job I think that's very important

1:00:10.820,1:00:16.430
because I'm sure when when people start

1:00:13.550,1:00:18.860
hearing the council is going to reduce

1:00:16.430,1:00:21.350
taxes the next thing they think of well

1:00:18.860,1:00:24.800
am I going to lose my job and that's not

1:00:21.350,1:00:26.480
what we're up here going to do at least

1:00:24.800,1:00:28.130
that's not what I'm looking to do but I

1:00:26.480,1:00:30.950
am looking at providing the basic

1:00:28.130,1:00:34.460
services for our residents and providing

1:00:30.950,1:00:36.530
that at a cost that where we can say hey

1:00:34.460,1:00:38.300
we're we see what your assessments going

1:00:36.530,1:00:41.240
to do and we're not going to allow that

1:00:38.300,1:00:44.330
to you know keep our levy rate we have

1:00:41.240,1:00:46.160
to lower our levy rate because a lot of

1:00:44.330,1:00:49.460
the properties went up 10 to 15 to

1:00:46.160,1:00:52.100
sometimes 20 percent you can't have that

1:00:49.460,1:00:53.720
and not reduce the levy rate so thank

1:00:52.100,1:00:55.730
you mayor for bringing it to everyone's

1:00:53.720,1:00:57.530
attention and directing the the staff to

1:00:55.730,1:00:59.240
do what they needed to do and I applaud

1:00:57.530,1:01:01.070
you for that for those efforts and and

1:00:59.240,1:01:04.610
bringing it to the forefront this quick

1:01:01.070,1:01:06.950
so thank you well we're in the budget

1:01:04.610,1:01:11.060
cycle it need to be done yo now rather

1:01:06.950,1:01:12.650
than later anybody else when we go out

1:01:11.060,1:01:13.940
for the community conversations - I

1:01:12.650,1:01:16.190
think you know by then we'll have

1:01:13.940,1:01:18.020
probably the budget and I think we just

1:01:16.190,1:01:21.200
have to be able to address to our

1:01:18.020,1:01:22.280
citizens and ask them - are you you know

1:01:21.200,1:01:23.660
as long as we can maintain all the

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services and everything that we've got

1:01:23.660,1:01:29.000
in the CIP and that we're proposing and

1:01:25.700,1:01:32.150
then you know say they're still saying

1:01:29.000,1:01:34.520
we need more then we need to offset that

1:01:32.150,1:01:36.170
with how much do we're going to do is

1:01:34.520,1:01:37.319
services and how much we're going to do

1:01:36.170,1:01:38.880
so levy and we're

1:01:37.319,1:01:40.259
is it all come out I know we're getting

1:01:38.880,1:01:42.749
more in the sales tax and I have the

1:01:40.259,1:01:44.249
assessment so we still might if we still

1:01:42.749,1:01:47.009
have an increase I think we have to be

1:01:44.249,1:01:49.049
able to weigh those things with what we

1:01:47.009,1:01:51.029
also hear when we go out that we need

1:01:49.049,1:01:53.640
more done in a lot of different areas

1:01:51.029,1:01:54.989
more you know infrastructure things so I

1:01:53.640,1:01:56.849
think I just want to make sure that

1:01:54.989,1:01:58.589
everybody understands that we're still

1:01:56.849,1:02:00.119
going to be able to do it what else do

1:01:58.589,1:02:04.140
we need to do and how fast could we do

1:02:00.119,1:02:06.089
it if we had more so right given that

1:02:04.140,1:02:07.920
whole picture so people can have an open

1:02:06.089,1:02:09.299
discussion and that's we're asking the

1:02:07.920,1:02:12.660
management to bring that back watch the

1:02:09.299,1:02:13.829
choice what that means bill yeah as you

1:02:12.660,1:02:16.589
mentioned we go to the neighborhood

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meetings and for like it or not they're

1:02:16.589,1:02:20.940
going to come back they came to say to

1:02:17.849,1:02:24.509
us you raised my taxes no we did not we

1:02:20.940,1:02:26.249
lowered it 60 cents the the assessment

1:02:24.509,1:02:29.459
went up people don't understand that and

1:02:26.249,1:02:32.869
so I think we are taking the right step

1:02:29.459,1:02:35.609
and taking another bite on the levy and

1:02:32.869,1:02:38.190
like councilman gato said it probably is

1:02:35.609,1:02:39.390
not going to make a difference where

1:02:38.190,1:02:40.979
it's going to be below what they paid

1:02:39.390,1:02:42.329
before but it shows that we're

1:02:40.979,1:02:45.839
addressing an issue that they can't

1:02:42.329,1:02:47.369
understand and want to get resolved to

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the best of their ability so I think

1:02:47.369,1:02:52.109
we're going at it in the right direction

1:02:48.959,1:02:54.209
and I like the idea that as a councilman

1:02:52.109,1:02:55.920
gato said we're not causing any jobs

1:02:54.209,1:02:59.130
we're not taking anything out of CIP

1:02:55.920,1:03:01.229
we're making sure that we're competitive

1:02:59.130,1:03:02.910
in the housing market and we make sure

1:03:01.229,1:03:04.469
that our residents feel like they're

1:03:02.910,1:03:06.269
part of the process and we've done a

1:03:04.469,1:03:09.150
good job of listening and made

1:03:06.269,1:03:11.119
adjustments accordingly so hats off to

1:03:09.150,1:03:17.999
you today mayor thank you yeah thank you

1:03:11.119,1:03:19.079
well it and I'm gonna support asking the

1:03:17.999,1:03:20.880
manager to come back with a

1:03:19.079,1:03:21.509
recommendation and understanding what

1:03:20.880,1:03:22.979
this looks like

1:03:21.509,1:03:25.109
I think we're understanding the

1:03:22.979,1:03:28.469
implications are important like many

1:03:25.109,1:03:32.279
things we do this is part of getting the

1:03:28.469,1:03:35.549
balance right and one of the things that

1:03:32.279,1:03:38.849
I know because I I hear it a lot and it

1:03:35.549,1:03:42.930
will only increase because even if we

1:03:38.849,1:03:45.449
reduce our levy rate people will will be

1:03:42.930,1:03:48.239
seeing a an increase in what they are

1:03:45.449,1:03:50.160
paying because the assessments have gone

1:03:48.239,1:03:53.339
up significantly and when they

1:03:50.160,1:03:55.410
do people expect our services to go up

1:03:53.339,1:03:57.599
even if we're decreasing our levy rate

1:03:55.410,1:03:59.609
people expect it you know the thing that

1:03:57.599,1:04:03.780
I get all the time is for the taxes I

1:03:59.609,1:04:06.869
pay I want my Road in X condition or I I

1:04:03.780,1:04:10.079
want to be able to to go to the library

1:04:06.869,1:04:12.390
on a Saturday those are the type of

1:04:10.079,1:04:14.789
things that that I hear and it's

1:04:12.390,1:04:17.039
important that we understand the

1:04:14.789,1:04:19.859
implication and that we can stay on

1:04:17.039,1:04:23.190
track with the investments that we have

1:04:19.859,1:04:25.740
been making in terms of the roads that

1:04:23.190,1:04:27.990
we are building and reconstructing so

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that the quality of our roads continue

1:04:27.990,1:04:32.250
to improve so that we're hitting that

1:04:30.299,1:04:34.589
long term will return around our

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situation because I think we are on that

1:04:34.589,1:04:39.690
path but I want to make sure that we

1:04:36.809,1:04:41.670
stay on that path and I'd even like to

1:04:39.690,1:04:44.069
accelerate that path in terms of

1:04:41.670,1:04:46.559
improving our existing roads if we have

1:04:44.069,1:04:49.770
the ability because I think that service

1:04:46.559,1:04:51.329
is what what I hear the most from from

1:04:49.770,1:04:54.240
our residents they want to improve that

1:04:51.329,1:04:57.480
similarly the requests for sidewalks and

1:04:54.240,1:05:01.710
we're taking important steps on our

1:04:57.480,1:05:03.510
priority 1 sidewalks but there's more

1:05:01.710,1:05:05.490
there's a lot more to be done

1:05:03.510,1:05:08.460
we know that it's going to be a long

1:05:05.490,1:05:10.589
slow process even with the increased

1:05:08.460,1:05:14.099
investment that we made and so I want to

1:05:10.589,1:05:16.500
make sure that we are balancing and we

1:05:14.099,1:05:19.740
understand what's not going to be

1:05:16.500,1:05:23.849
getting done if if we do this because we

1:05:19.740,1:05:25.700
talked about responding when when the

1:05:23.849,1:05:29.220
assessments go up in a significant way

1:05:25.700,1:05:32.339
but typically this is you know we don't

1:05:29.220,1:05:36.210
talk about the opposite when assessments

1:05:32.339,1:05:39.210
are stagnant and I mean what we do and

1:05:36.210,1:05:41.309
the good years balance out the bad and

1:05:39.210,1:05:43.710
what we do in assessments are stagnant

1:05:41.309,1:05:46.349
is we we tighten our belts a little bit

1:05:43.710,1:05:49.140
because we don't want to we don't want

1:05:46.349,1:05:50.789
to increase taxes so we need to be

1:05:49.140,1:05:52.950
mindful of that and we need to think

1:05:50.789,1:05:54.539
about what kind of long-term investments

1:05:52.950,1:05:56.819
we can make that will improve service

1:05:54.539,1:05:58.680
and we need to understand all of the

1:05:56.819,1:06:01.020
implications so those are the type of

1:05:58.680,1:06:03.390
things that when this comes back I'm

1:06:01.020,1:06:05.700
going to be looking to

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from the managers budget and looking to

1:06:05.700,1:06:10.500
understand I think it's appropriate to

1:06:07.710,1:06:12.720
take this step at this time because you

1:06:10.500,1:06:14.700
can't if you don't evaluate it if you

1:06:12.720,1:06:17.520
don't get that information we can't make

1:06:14.700,1:06:20.210
a good decision going forward and I

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think it's important that we do that

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thank you so I generally don't move this

1:06:28.320,1:06:37.380
is somebody want to move all of this

1:06:30.830,1:06:40.590
extra item one unless you and I want to

1:06:37.380,1:06:44.430
say in support of everything's been set

1:06:40.590,1:06:46.910
up here it is our directive to staff and

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to the manager is they put this together

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that they make sure that we can make

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good on all of the promises that we made

1:06:53.700,1:07:01.020
on the investments in streets in

1:06:57.510,1:07:03.450
infrastructure in parks in sidewalks in

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the neighborhoods that we laid out in to

1:07:03.450,1:07:09.119
Josh's point to make sure we keep those

1:07:06.690,1:07:12.450
libraries open that's part of what our

1:07:09.119,1:07:14.190
whole Local Option Sales Tax was we said

1:07:12.450,1:07:15.450
that's what we're going to do and we

1:07:14.190,1:07:18.300
want to make sure that we can maintain

1:07:15.450,1:07:21.030
those promises and deliver on them I

1:07:18.300,1:07:23.660
won't back down from that either but I

1:07:21.030,1:07:27.420
think that that with the appropriate

1:07:23.660,1:07:30.359
look at our budget and with a really

1:07:27.420,1:07:32.880
good sharp financial staff that I think

1:07:30.359,1:07:35.130
that we've put together over the last

1:07:32.880,1:07:37.980
number of years we're going to be able

1:07:35.130,1:07:43.380
to deliver and I want to thank all the

1:07:37.980,1:07:46.320
council for supporting this seven yet

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work motion carry all right and with

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that unless anybody has did you want to

1:07:50.040,1:07:55.650
say something I see on crutches you came

1:07:52.020,1:07:57.359
in he's just here those guys you're just

1:07:55.650,1:08:01.280
here to listen to us well thanks for

1:07:57.359,1:08:05.910
coming down we thank our brothers here

1:08:01.280,1:08:08.430
from our our various labor areas thanks

1:08:05.910,1:08:13.350
for coming down this evening and to all

1:08:08.430,1:08:14.850
of you that put up with us till 541 this

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meeting is adjourned thank you all for

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being

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so is it

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