WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.072 (lively piano music) 00:00:06.072 --> 00:00:07.195 Voiceover: We're on the 4th floor 00:00:07.195 --> 00:00:08.938 of the Museum of Modern Art in New York, 00:00:08.938 --> 00:00:12.441 and we're looking at Robert Rauschenberg's, "Bed." 00:00:12.441 --> 00:00:15.736 This is a combine, not quite a sculpture, 00:00:15.736 --> 00:00:19.406 not quite a painting, from 1955. 00:00:19.406 --> 00:00:21.571 Voiceover: So, combine means a combination 00:00:21.571 --> 00:00:23.025 of painting and sculpture? 00:00:23.025 --> 00:00:24.858 Voiceover: Well, Johns and Rauschenberg 00:00:24.858 --> 00:00:27.026 were actually thinking about their art 00:00:27.026 --> 00:00:29.358 as between art and life, 00:00:29.358 --> 00:00:32.505 and what is that narrow space between the two? 00:00:32.505 --> 00:00:34.109 Voiceover: Instead of thinking about it 00:00:34.109 --> 00:00:37.441 between painting and sculpture between these two things 00:00:37.441 --> 00:00:40.968 that symbolize fine art in the grand tradition, 00:00:40.968 --> 00:00:44.137 inserting life into that conversation. 00:00:44.137 --> 00:00:45.524 Voiceover: Life and wit. 00:00:45.524 --> 00:00:49.109 What we're looking at is, in fact, the stuff of a real bed. 00:00:49.109 --> 00:00:50.304 We're looking at a real pillow. 00:00:50.304 --> 00:00:52.238 We're looking at a real pillowcase, 00:00:52.238 --> 00:00:55.238 and a handmade quilted blanket, sheets, 00:00:55.238 --> 00:00:59.804 but if you look closely, you're also seeing pencil and paint. 00:00:59.804 --> 00:01:02.107 Of course, all of this has been taken out 00:01:02.107 --> 00:01:04.625 of the horizontal where you could lie down on this, 00:01:04.625 --> 00:01:06.107 and put up on the wall. 00:01:06.107 --> 00:01:07.669 Voiceover: I'm reminded of Pollock, 00:01:07.669 --> 00:01:09.469 of Pollock painting on the floor, 00:01:09.469 --> 00:01:13.072 and then those pieces of canvas being picked up 00:01:13.072 --> 00:01:15.692 and put on the walls of a museum or a gallery. 00:01:15.692 --> 00:01:17.858 The other way I'm reminded of Pollock 00:01:17.858 --> 00:01:20.616 is in all the drips that we're seeing here. 00:01:20.616 --> 00:01:21.971 Voiceover: This is a reference 00:01:21.971 --> 00:01:23.936 that Rauschenberg wanted you to come to. 00:01:23.936 --> 00:01:25.526 Voiceover: The Pollocks are just 5 years old, 00:01:25.526 --> 00:01:26.775 the great drip paintings. 00:01:26.775 --> 00:01:28.024 Voiceover: That's exactly right. 00:01:28.024 --> 00:01:30.608 This artist wanted you to be thinking about Pollock. 00:01:30.608 --> 00:01:32.506 This is really a confrontation with Pollock, 00:01:32.506 --> 00:01:35.237 with abstract expressionism broadly. 00:01:35.237 --> 00:01:37.025 That was the dominant contemporary art 00:01:37.025 --> 00:01:38.738 of this moment in 1955. 00:01:38.738 --> 00:01:40.441 Pollock would die the following year. 00:01:40.441 --> 00:01:42.404 Voiceover: When I think about abstract expressionism, 00:01:42.404 --> 00:01:45.649 I think about the personal subjective experience 00:01:45.649 --> 00:01:47.164 of the artist on the canvas. 00:01:47.164 --> 00:01:49.861 I guess it makes sense to me that this is a bed, 00:01:49.861 --> 00:01:52.413 a place of our unconscious, of our dreams. 00:01:52.413 --> 00:01:54.495 Voiceover: I think it's also tongue-in-cheek. 00:01:54.495 --> 00:01:57.965 This notion that the abstract expressionist canvas 00:01:57.965 --> 00:02:00.798 was somehow the manifestation of the internal state 00:02:00.798 --> 00:02:01.731 of the artist. 00:02:01.731 --> 00:02:03.632 Rauschenberg is saying, "You really believe that? 00:02:03.632 --> 00:02:06.897 "Well let me give you the actual arena of the dream. 00:02:06.897 --> 00:02:08.413 "I'm going to give you my bed." 00:02:08.413 --> 00:02:10.127 Voiceover: So, you think he's making fun in a way? 00:02:10.127 --> 00:02:11.079 Voiceover: Absolutely. 00:02:11.079 --> 00:02:12.077 Art historians sometimes talked 00:02:12.077 --> 00:02:14.066 about the kind of Oedipal relationship 00:02:14.066 --> 00:02:15.767 between Rauschenberg or younger artists, 00:02:15.767 --> 00:02:18.553 and the abstract expressionists that he was friends with at this time. 00:02:18.553 --> 00:02:20.639 Voiceover: That makes this a kind of in-joke. 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.002 Voiceover: 1955, in the work of people like Johns and Rauschenberg, 00:02:24.002 --> 00:02:27.888 is the moment when art moves from being modernist 00:02:27.888 --> 00:02:33.891 in its sincerity to a kind of post-modern attitude 00:02:33.891 --> 00:02:37.492 that is responsive and that is self-aware, 00:02:37.492 --> 00:02:39.424 a kind of hyper self-awareness. 00:02:39.424 --> 00:02:41.704 Voiceover: We could understand that as a switch 00:02:41.704 --> 00:02:44.954 between modernism to post-modernism. 00:02:44.954 --> 00:02:47.327 Voiceover: Or sincerity to irony. 00:02:47.327 --> 00:02:48.892 Voiceover: It is true that when I think 00:02:48.892 --> 00:02:51.620 about abstract expressionism, there is this attempt 00:02:51.620 --> 00:02:54.656 by each of those artists, Newman, Pollock, 00:02:54.656 --> 00:02:56.619 Rothko, Motherwell, the great artists 00:02:56.619 --> 00:02:58.370 of the abstract expressionist movement, 00:02:58.370 --> 00:03:02.829 each one of them has a very distinctive, individual style. 00:03:02.829 --> 00:03:05.591 You can't say that there's an abstract expressionist style 00:03:05.591 --> 00:03:07.755 because it's completely dependent on the individual. 00:03:07.755 --> 00:03:10.037 There is that idea that the painting 00:03:10.037 --> 00:03:14.824 is this manifestation of their personality, their psyche. 00:03:14.824 --> 00:03:15.969 Voiceover: What happens here, 00:03:15.969 --> 00:03:18.972 is we have an artist who is self-consciously imitating 00:03:18.972 --> 00:03:20.704 that idea of the authentic. 00:03:20.704 --> 00:03:24.305 If you look closely, the drip had become, by 1955, 00:03:24.305 --> 00:03:28.007 almost a kind of emblem of the authentic experience 00:03:28.007 --> 00:03:29.368 of the authentic moment. 00:03:29.368 --> 00:03:31.840 Here, that is being replicated. 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.337 There's a kind of irony that's built into it. 00:03:34.337 --> 00:03:39.424 I think of stepping back from buying that notion 00:03:39.424 --> 00:03:42.902 that art can be this true internal thing. 00:03:42.902 --> 00:03:45.005 Voiceover: By virtue of copying 00:03:45.005 --> 00:03:48.469 what is supposed to be someone else's individual style, 00:03:48.469 --> 00:03:52.035 there is a kind of irony, a kind of self-consciousness there, 00:03:52.035 --> 00:03:55.046 a kind of adopting for another purpose. 00:03:55.046 --> 00:03:56.195 Voiceover: But then, all of this 00:03:56.195 --> 00:03:58.162 is [laid over] the found objects or objects 00:03:58.162 --> 00:04:00.600 from Rauschenberg's bed. 00:04:00.600 --> 00:04:02.296 There's something incredibly personal, 00:04:02.296 --> 00:04:04.212 but also absurdist here. 00:04:04.212 --> 00:04:05.930 That's why Johnson and Rauschenberg 00:04:05.930 --> 00:04:08.628 are sometimes referred to as Neo-Dadist, 00:04:08.628 --> 00:04:10.046 because they picked up the mantle, 00:04:10.046 --> 00:04:11.712 the flag of people like Duchamp, 00:04:11.712 --> 00:04:14.830 who are interested in irony, in playfulness, 00:04:14.830 --> 00:04:18.046 in a reprising of ideas, and reconstructing 00:04:18.046 --> 00:04:20.195 of a vocabulary of meaning. 00:04:20.195 --> 00:04:23.154 Voiceover: Well, it is true that Duchamp took on 00:04:23.154 --> 00:04:26.934 the tradition of Western art and all its seriousness 00:04:26.934 --> 00:04:28.498 and high-mindedness. 00:04:28.498 --> 00:04:31.765 I can see that here with the Rauschenberg 00:04:31.765 --> 00:04:34.632 in that commenting on the sincerity and seriousness 00:04:34.632 --> 00:04:36.266 of abstract expressionism. 00:04:36.266 --> 00:04:40.266 (lively piano music)