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It came to me like, uh, like a fairy tale. Ya know?

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A sculpture produced in

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the boat

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during the trip

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The fairy tale was, ya know, this idea of a sculpture

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Somehow an art piece

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produced in this, uh,

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in the middle of the ocean, ya know?

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But, at the same time, this model coming from the west

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that goes to the east and then is coming back

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to the west in this travel

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but very close to this fairy tale thing

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It was the hardness of the reality

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the hardness of the work

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the, I mean, the way the work is exploited, ya know?

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The logic of the profit that is behind that

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That was to create this coincidence between the time of transport and the time of production

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[JACKHAMMER POUNDING]

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In my work, you see a lot of people.

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You see a lot of faces, you see a lot of bodies

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and the stories are connected with these bodies

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with these--they are human experiences.

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In this piece it's a bit different

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Ya know, it's the story of the piece of marble

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It's the story of a stone

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Taken off from the mountain

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and then rolled down

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and then rolled to a boat

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and then, uh, and then it start this trip

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and then it's transformed.

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Of course it makes it a bit more metaphorical

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But at the same time, even in this piece, in the video you see faces, you see bodies, you see human actions.

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It's about this piece of marble, but at the same time it's even about the human actions on it, ya know?

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It's not about their personal stories.

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But it is about, even about their presence.

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Ya know, their presence is important.

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And their actions are, I mean, are important.

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And their--and what they--

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actually, the column is what they produce

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so it's not being produced in a miraculous way somehow.

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[BOAT ENGINE CHUGGING]

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This transformation from, uh, from something coming from nature

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that you detached from that, from its context

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and then

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through the action it becomes an expression of culture

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So it's from nature.

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From nature going towards culture.

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And what is getting and what is losing in this transformation.

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So of course, the column that we see now

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it's nicely done

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it's perfectly, uh, responding to a model.

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to a cultural model

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but at the same time it's losing something from

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from its roughness, or its natural aspect.

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The film is ending with this boat and the ocean

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and you don't see even the column at the end because, ya know, the roof of the boat is closed.

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So, the trip is still going on.

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It continues.

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It's continuing

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But then I wanted the sculpture to be here in Paris.

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To be here, like to, to consider the promise as a step of this trip.

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Europe was a destination for the column

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I wanted the column to be here.

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In Paris

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And we are here.

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In a place that we are surrounded by columns in Paris.

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Even just here the Plaza la Concordia

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you see a column in the middle and then around you see a lot of columns.

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The column is a very symbolic element.

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It's in general a symbolic element, even in the East and in the West.

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In the West we connect it with the temples

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Ya know? With the--we connect it with power.

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And it's erected, ya know? It's vertical.

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The fact here, the column is lying down, ya know?

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For the whole trip it's lying down and it's still--

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I want to keep it this way, ya know?

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So of course, it's a game somehow between the

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uh, the power and being impotent somehow, ya know?

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And as you said, it's made in China.

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Ya know, when we see "Made in China" it has to do with something that is not authentic.

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So even the, the same idea of authenticity is questioned, ya know?

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[RADIO PLAYING MUSIC IN CHINESE]

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The image has the power to tell, and to keep it open, that is the nice thing.

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The word is more defining.

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Ya know?

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When you give a name to something, you define it more.

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The image is saying something but its always a secret.

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It's always about this process.

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It's about, uh, being in this, uh, continuous transformation and then

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things are becoming always something else.

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And in this process of becoming, if you manage to

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to get some, some signs of the truth that is moving

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That is the greatest thing.

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[BOAT ENGINE CHUGGING, HAMMERS STRIKING]

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[CRASH OF MARBLE]