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Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.86,0:00:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HIROSHI SUGIMOTO:\NThis is my studio in New York,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.12,0:00:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I am on the 11th floor\Nfacing north sky.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.12,0:00:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a very traditional\N19th-century painters
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.44,0:00:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studio in Paris.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.20,0:00:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I... I'm not using\Nany artificial light here.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.44,0:00:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all I do is this, you know,\Nshading up and down
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.32,0:00:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then\NI can control the light.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.92,0:00:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, this system,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.36,0:00:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this method, still makes\Nthe best quality picture.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.66,0:00:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh our, uh... we think\Nwe keep making inventions
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.76,0:01:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and makes tools as sophisticated\Nas possible,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.84,0:01:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to me\Ncontemporary people tend to...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.32,0:01:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tend to rely onto\Nthe computer method
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.00,0:01:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the machines.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.20,0:01:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not good enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.96,0:01:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need something more\Nthan that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.07,0:01:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this system,\Nit's very hard to control,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.24,0:01:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it still makes\Nthe best picture.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.36,0:01:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm against\Na kind of evolution, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.12,0:01:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.90,0:01:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ laughing ]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.35,0:01:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am sticking to\Nthe traditional method.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.69,0:01:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ machine beeping ]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.12,0:01:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am very craft-oriented person.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.98,0:01:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the same time,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.48,0:01:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to make\Nsomething artistic.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.80,0:01:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fossils works almost\Nthe same as photography.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.60,0:01:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, photography functions\Nas a fossilization of the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.61,0:02:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ liquid dripping ]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.48,0:02:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How my architectural series\Nstarted,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.36,0:02:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I visited so many early\N20th-century architecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.28,0:02:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are all famous.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.84,0:02:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They look so beautiful\Nin the book,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.72,0:02:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you actually go there,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.75,0:02:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's 60, 70, 80 years old.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.44,0:02:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are, most of them,\Nin very bad conditions.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.07,0:02:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make them out-of-focus picture, \Nall the wrinkles disappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.44,0:02:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stillness, well,\Nthat's something
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.28,0:02:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not intentionally,\Nyou know, promoting it,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.72,0:02:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but most of the people sees it
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.08,0:03:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's very quiet and serene.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.21,0:03:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh seascapes case,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.96,0:03:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my subject matter is\Nwater and air.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.96,0:03:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the kind of...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.99,0:03:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most kind of abstract theme.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.38,0:03:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find a spot\Nthat I want to stay,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.21,0:03:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I stay there
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.54,0:03:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe sometimes one week,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.68,0:03:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes a couple weeks,\Ntwo, three weeks.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.07,0:03:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I just stay there, and just feel like\NI'm a part of this, you know, nature and landscape.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.40,0:03:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So far, I visited\Nso many different seas,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.08,0:03:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I never be on the boat.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.28,0:03:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to be on the ground.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.40,0:03:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I start feeling this is\Nthe creation of the universe
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.08,0:03:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm witnessing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.92,0:04:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, this is my miniature\Nseascapes, Day and Night.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.38,0:04:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wind this up\Nand it shakes.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.40,0:04:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is my, you know,\Nfamous Japanese earthquake.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.16,0:04:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Shall I do it here?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.22,0:04:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whoa.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.68,0:04:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, this is one of\Nmy fossil collection,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.88,0:04:44.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,450 million years old.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.76,0:04:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this cabinet...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.88,0:04:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I call this cabinet\Nas my Shinto shrine,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.32,0:04:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,portable Shinto shrine.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.16,0:04:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have this mirror here
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.00,0:04:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, well, the Japanese\NShinto shrine,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.20,0:05:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they always keep the mirror\Ninside,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.04,0:05:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's probably the reflection\Nof the old memory, ancestors.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.81,0:05:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, this is...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.68,0:05:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm worshiping our ancestors.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.88,0:05:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the earliest stage of\Nthe life formation in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.36,0:05:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is what I have\Nto pay respect.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.92,0:05:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two years ago,\NI was commissioned to build
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.40,0:05:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Shinto shrine in Japan.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.64,0:05:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know,\Nit's a religious institution
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.68,0:05:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's still active,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.44,0:05:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the building itself,\Nit's so old and deteriorated so
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.25,0:05:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was commissioned\Nto rebuild this Shinto shrine.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.40,0:05:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is exactly 30 years
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.84,0:05:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since I first came to see\Nthis Large Glass,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.60,0:05:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see this Duchamp piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.65,0:05:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually that was the year
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.60,0:06:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came to New York\Nfrom California, after spending
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.60,0:06:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three years in\NCalifornia as an art student.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:06:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.49,0:06:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was\Nthe first things I did,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.44,0:06:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make a short trip\Nfrom New York to Philadelphia
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.48,0:06:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see this Duchamp piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.20,0:06:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems strong and important.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.00,0:06:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way you read it\Nis your own creation.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.96,0:06:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is kind of stimulating\Na kind of very abstract thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.28,0:06:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the kind of metaphors.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.28,0:06:51.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's no one answer\Nto describe this, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.54,0:07:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, this is the miniature\Nwhich I made.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.04,0:07:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was actually photographed\Nin Tokyo,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.16,0:07:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what I photographed was\Nthe replica of The Large Glass.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.60,0:07:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use eight-by-ten camera.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.08,0:07:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the original\Nnegative here
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.80,0:07:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sandwiched between\Nthe two thick glass like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.96,0:07:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then this side is\Nthe positive actually,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.68,0:07:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the contact print\Nfrom the other side, negative.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.60,0:07:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't so aware\Nof Duchamp's influence, but...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.81,0:07:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but after reaching\Nat my age now, I...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.28,0:07:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel very strongly\Nhow... how much
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.32,0:07:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effect that he did affect
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.84,0:07:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on my career in art.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.94,0:07:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm working on now\Nis my show at the Cartier Foundation\Nin Paris.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.44,0:07:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Cartier Foundation,\Nit's a glass box,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.00,0:07:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a huge glass box.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.04,0:07:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm presenting\Na three-dimensional Duchamp
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.52,0:08:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Large Glass presentation\Nin my way of presentation.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.00,0:08:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the bachelor section.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.24,0:08:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is the bride section.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.04,0:08:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is each nine figures\Nas a bachelor
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.80,0:08:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's being represented
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.48,0:08:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as more like\Na machine-like figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.48,0:08:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I'm related\Nto this
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.29,0:08:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collection of my machine photographs.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.16,0:08:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The machine models were\N19th century.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.52,0:08:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They served to demonstrate
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.17,0:08:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the very basic machine movement\Nfor the student.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.32,0:08:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are getting into\Nthis upper part of the section
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.28,0:09:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called the "bride section."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.52,0:09:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is...\Nthere's supposed to be a bride
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.72,0:09:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this very interesting
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.08,0:09:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,formation of cloud-like shapes.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.29,0:09:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's kind of feminine to me, so
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.96,0:09:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided to compare with my \Nmathematical forms, like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.90,0:09:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was made to be... to show a student\Nwhat's the mathematics,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.18,0:09:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, three-dimensional\Nmathematic theories can be seen
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.04,0:09:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in actual\Nthree-dimensional models.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.32,0:09:38.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very bad in mathematics
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.76,0:09:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was\Na high school student.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.64,0:09:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I loved physics, but my lack of\Nunderstanding of mathematics
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.96,0:09:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made me think that\NI am not the proper person
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.44,0:09:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get into physics.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.00,0:09:57.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I found that\NI'm quite a visual person;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.40,0:10:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to confirm everything\Nby my eye.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.88,0:10:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I became more like\Na visual artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.88,0:10:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every museum show,\NI try to design the space.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.00,0:10:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very important.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.52,0:10:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just\Na photography show.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.76,0:10:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's more like\NI'm designing the space.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.68,0:10:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a...
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.32,0:10:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a space sculpture, like.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.44,0:10:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want people to get puzzled\Nfirst, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.08,0:10:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As people walk in, the first...
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.36,0:10:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably people may think this\Nis a minimalist sculpture show.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.84,0:10:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then came all the way\Ninto the space and came back
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.20,0:10:54.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of a sudden\Nthis is a photography show.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.00,0:10:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So people pay only\None admission
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.12,0:10:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get to see two different\Nkind of show.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.32,0:11:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's... very heavily discounted.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.04,0:11:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have so many ideas being\Ncooked in my brain
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.92,0:11:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they seem like\Nall impossible.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.50,0:11:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But sometimes it's...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.71,0:11:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it becomes reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.16,0:11:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is through my\Ntranslation of my visual,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.36,0:11:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, visual understanding\Nof how... how I see things.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.68,0:11:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then make...\Nmake imagination possible
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.68,0:11:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to show to everybody
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.32,0:12:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the task of artist,\NI think.