[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.90,0:00:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we cheat? Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.64,0:00:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why do happy people cheat? Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.44,0:00:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we say "infidelity," Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.39,0:00:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what exactly do we mean? Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.15,0:00:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it a hookup, a love story, Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.52,0:00:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hate sex, a chat room, Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.70,0:00:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a massage with happy endings? Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.14,0:00:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we think that men cheat Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.47,0:00:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of boredom and fear of intimacy, Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.50,0:00:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but women cheat out of loneliness Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.24,0:00:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hunger for intimacy? Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.66,0:00:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And is an affair always\Nthe end of a relationship? Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.02,0:00:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the past 10 years, Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.92,0:00:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have traveled the globe Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.47,0:00:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and worked extensively Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.30,0:00:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with hundreds of couples\Nwho have been shattered by infidelity. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.69,0:00:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is one simple act of transgression Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.62,0:00:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can rob a couple Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.68,0:01:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from their relationship, their happiness, Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.35,0:01:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their very identity: an affair. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.86,0:01:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet, this extremely common act Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.95,0:01:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is so poorly understood. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.45,0:01:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this talk is for anyone\Nwho has ever loved. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.18,0:01:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Adultery has existed\Nsince marriage was invented, Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.31,0:01:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so to the taboo against it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.02,0:01:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, infidelity has a tenacity Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.46,0:01:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that marriage can only envy, Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.75,0:01:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much so that this is\Nthe only commandment Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.28,0:01:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is repeated twice in the Bible: Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.18,0:01:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once for doing it, Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.99,0:01:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and once just for thinking about it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.18,0:01:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.51,0:01:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do we reconcile Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.65,0:01:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is universally forbidden Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.88,0:01:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet universally practiced? Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.15,0:01:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, throughout history, Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.94,0:01:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,men practically had a license to cheat Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.10,0:02:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with little consequence, Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.25,0:02:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and supported by a host\Nof biological and evolutionary theories Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.55,0:02:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that justified their need to roam, Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.45,0:02:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the double standard\Nis as old as adultery itself. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.33,0:02:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But who knows what's really going on Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.70,0:02:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under the sheets there, right? Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.88,0:02:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when it comes to sex, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.87,0:02:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pressure for men Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.48,0:02:23.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to boast and to exaggerate, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.91,0:02:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the pressure for women Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.80,0:02:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to hide, minimize, and deny, Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.43,0:02:31.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which isn't surprising when you consider Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.45,0:02:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are still nine countries Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.63,0:02:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where women can be killed for straying. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.81,0:02:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, monogamy used to be\None person for life. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.78,0:02:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, monogamy is one person at a time. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.13,0:02:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) (Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.61,0:02:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, many of you probably have said, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.28,0:02:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I am monogamous in all my relationships." Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.41,0:03:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.71,0:03:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We used to marry Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.38,0:03:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have sex for the first time, Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.54,0:03:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now we marry Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.23,0:03:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we stop having sex with others. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.18,0:03:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact is that monogamy Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.27,0:03:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had nothing to do with love. Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.24,0:03:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Men relied on women's fidelity Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.75,0:03:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to know whose children these are Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.65,0:03:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who gets the cows when I die. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.24,0:03:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, everyone wants to know Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.59,0:03:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what percentage of people cheat. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.58,0:03:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been asked that question\Nsince I arrived at this conference. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.14,0:03:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.27,0:03:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It applies to you. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.46,0:03:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the definition of infidelity Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.80,0:03:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeps on expanding: Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.94,0:03:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sexting, watching porn, Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.44,0:03:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,staying secretly active on dating apps. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.28,0:03:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So because there is no\Nuniversally agreed upon definition Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.97,0:03:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what even constitutes an infidelity, Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.94,0:03:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,estimates vary widely, Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.28,0:04:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from 26 percent to 75 percent. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.12,0:04:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But on top of it,\Nwe are walking contradictions, Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.20,0:04:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so 95 percent of us will say\Nthat it is terribly wrong Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.80,0:04:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for our partner to lie\Nabout having an affair, Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.89,0:04:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but just about the same\Namount of us will say Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.33,0:04:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that's exactly what we would do\Nif we were having one. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.75,0:04:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I like this definition of an affair. Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.75,0:04:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It brings together the three key elements: Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.40,0:04:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a secretive relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.56,0:04:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the core structure of an affair; Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.04,0:04:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an emotional connection\Nto one degree or another; Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.57,0:04:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a sexual alchemy. Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.26,0:04:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And alchemy is the key word here, Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.33,0:04:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the erotic frisson is such Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.42,0:04:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the kiss that you only imagine giving Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.22,0:04:53.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be as powerful and as enchanting Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.29,0:04:57.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as hours of actual lovemaking. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.51,0:04:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As Marcel Proust said, Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.44,0:05:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's our imagination that is\Nresponsible for love, Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.69,0:05:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not the other person. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.90,0:05:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's never been easier to cheat, Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.77,0:05:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's never been more difficult Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.91,0:05:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to keep a secret. Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.93,0:05:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And never has infidelity exacted\Nsuch a psychological toll. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.66,0:05:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When marriage was an economic enterprise, Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.92,0:05:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infidelity threatened\Nour economic security, Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.00,0:05:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now that marriage\Nis a romantic arrangement, Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.93,0:05:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infidelity threatens\Nour emotional security. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.76,0:05:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ironically, we used to turn to adultery. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.89,0:05:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the space\Nwhere we sought pure love. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.30,0:05:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now that we seek love in marriage, Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.58,0:05:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adultery destroys it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.32,0:05:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, there are three ways that I think\Ninfidelity hurts differently today. Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.17,0:05:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a romantic ideal Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.40,0:05:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which we turn to one person Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.93,0:06:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fulfill an endless list of needs: Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.85,0:06:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be my greatest lover, my best friend, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.40,0:06:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best parent, my trusted confidante, Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.52,0:06:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my emotional companion,\Nmy intellectual equal. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.51,0:06:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I am it: I am chosen, I am unique, Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.04,0:06:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am indispensable, I am irreplaceable, Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.36,0:06:23.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am the one. Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.33,0:06:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And infidelity tells me I'm not. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.28,0:06:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the ultimate betrayal. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.90,0:06:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Infidelity shatters\Nthe grand ambition of love. Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.55,0:06:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if, throughout history, Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.52,0:06:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infidelity has always been painful, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.49,0:06:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today it is often traumatic, Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.09,0:06:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it threatens our sense of self. Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.99,0:06:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my patient Fernando, he's plagued. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.90,0:06:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He goes on. "I thought I knew my life. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.61,0:06:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought I knew who you were,\Nwho we were as a couple, who I was. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.75,0:06:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I question everything." Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.65,0:07:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Infidelity, a violation of trust, Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.06,0:07:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a crisis of identity. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.92,0:07:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can I ever trust you again?" he asks. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.22,0:07:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can I ever trust anyone again?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.75,0:07:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is also what\Nmy patient Heather is telling me Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.98,0:07:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when she's talking to me\Nabout her story with Nick. Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.72,0:07:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Married, two kids. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.04,0:07:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nick just left on a business trip, Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.17,0:07:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Heather is playing\Non his iPad with the boys Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.13,0:07:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when she sees a message\Nappear on the screen: Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.17,0:07:27.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can't wait to see you." Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.47,0:07:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Strange, she thinks, Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.26,0:07:31.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we just saw each other. Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.11,0:07:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then another message: Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.92,0:07:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can't wait to hold you in my arms." Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.96,0:07:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Heather realizes Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.22,0:07:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are not for her. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.40,0:07:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She also tells me\Nthat her father had affairs, Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.56,0:07:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but her mother, she found\None little receipt in the pocket, Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.78,0:07:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a little bit of lipstick\Non the collar. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.41,0:07:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Heather, she goes digging, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.70,0:07:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she finds hundreds of messages Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.58,0:08:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and photos exchanged\Nand desires expressed. Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.41,0:08:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The vivid details\Nof Nick's two year affair Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.22,0:08:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfold in front of her in real time, Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.89,0:08:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it made me think: Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.75,0:08:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affairs in the digital age\Nare death by a thousand cuts. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.63,0:08:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then we have another paradox\Nthat we're dealing with these days. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.83,0:08:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of this romantic ideal, Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.08,0:08:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are relying on our partner's fidelity Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.54,0:08:26.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a unique fervor, Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.91,0:08:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we also have never\Nbeen more inclined to stray, Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.47,0:08:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not because we have new desires today, Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.21,0:08:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because we live\Nin an era where we feel Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.74,0:08:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are entitled\Nto pursue our desires, Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.62,0:08:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this is the culture\Nwhere I deserve to be happy. Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.96,0:08:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we used to divorce\Nbecause we were unhappy, Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.07,0:08:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today we divorce because\Nwe could be happier. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.27,0:08:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if divorce carried all the shame, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.82,0:08:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today, choosing to stay\Nwhen you can leave Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.91,0:09:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the new shame. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.86,0:09:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Heather, she can't talk to her friends Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.18,0:09:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because she's afraid that they\Nwill judge her for still loving Nick, Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.29,0:09:08.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everywhere she turns, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.20,0:09:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she gets the same advice: Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.08,0:09:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave him, throw the dog on the curb. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.68,0:09:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if the situation was reversed,\NNick would be in the same situation. Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.04,0:09:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Staying is the new shame. Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.08,0:09:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we can divorce, Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.03,0:09:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why do we still have affairs? Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.49,0:09:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the typical assumption Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.44,0:09:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that if someone cheats, Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.62,0:09:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either there's something wrong\Nin your relationship or wrong with you. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.08,0:09:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But millions of people\Ncan't all be pathological. Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.47,0:09:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The logic goes like this:\Nif you have everything you need at home, Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.23,0:09:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there is no need\Nto go looking elsewhere, Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.62,0:09:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assuming that there is such a thing\Nas a perfect marriage Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.17,0:09:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will inoculate us against wanderlust. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.14,0:10:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what if passion\Nhas a finite shelf life? Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.36,0:10:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What if there are things\Nthat even a good relationship Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.31,0:10:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can never provide? Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.26,0:10:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If even happy people cheat, Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.58,0:10:15.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is it about? Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.97,0:10:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The vast majority of people\Nthat I actually work with Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.66,0:10:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not at all chronic philanderers. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.43,0:10:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are often people Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.16,0:10:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are deeply monogamous\Nin their beliefs, Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.55,0:10:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at least for their partners. Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.90,0:10:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they find themselves in a conflict Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.24,0:10:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between their values and their behavior. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.44,0:10:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They often are people who have actually Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.44,0:10:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been faithful for decades, Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.90,0:10:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but one day they cross a line Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.64,0:10:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they never thought they would cross, Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.06,0:10:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at the risk of losing everything, Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.19,0:10:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but for a glimmer of what? Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.93,0:10:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Affairs are an act of betrayal Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.46,0:10:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are also an expression\Nof longing and loss. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.59,0:11:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the heart of an affair, Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.68,0:11:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will often find Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.61,0:11:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a longing and a yearning Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.77,0:11:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for an emotional connection, Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.81,0:11:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for novelty, for freedom, for autonomy, Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.62,0:11:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for sexual intensity, Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.66,0:11:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wish to recapture\Nlost parts of ourselves Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.29,0:11:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or an attempt to bring back\Nvitality in the face of loss and tragedy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.95,0:11:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I'm think about\Nanother patient of mine, Priya, Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.90,0:11:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is blissfully married, Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.59,0:11:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loves her husband, Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.40,0:11:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and would never want to hurt the man, Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.84,0:11:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she also tells me Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.98,0:11:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she's always done\Nwhat was expected of her: Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.02,0:11:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good girl, good wife, good mother, Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.43,0:11:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking care of her immigrant parents. Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.43,0:11:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Priya, she fell for the arborist Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.31,0:11:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who removed the tree from her yard\Nafter Hurricane Sandy, Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.14,0:11:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with his truck and his tattoos, Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.02,0:11:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's quite the opposite of her. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.83,0:12:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at 47, Priya's affair is about\Nthe adolescence that she never had, Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.63,0:12:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and her story highlights for me Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.28,0:12:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when we seek the gaze of another, Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.06,0:12:11.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it isn't always our partner Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.57,0:12:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are turning away from, Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.87,0:12:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the person that\Nwe have ourselves become. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.66,0:12:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it isn't so much that we're\Nlooking for another person Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.30,0:12:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as much as we are looking Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.27,0:12:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for another self. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.81,0:12:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, all over the world, Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.42,0:12:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is one word that people\Nwho have affairs always tell me. Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.18,0:12:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They feel alive. Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.92,0:12:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they often will tell me stories Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.54,0:12:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of recent losses, Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.42,0:12:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a parent who died, Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.24,0:12:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a friend that went too soon, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.44,0:12:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bad news at the doctor. Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.86,0:12:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Death and mortality often live\Nin the shadow of an affair, Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.31,0:12:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they raise these questions. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.68,0:12:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this it? Is there more? Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.91,0:13:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am I going on for another\N25 years like this? Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.53,0:13:06.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will I ever feel that thing again? Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.43,0:13:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has led me to think Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.64,0:13:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that perhaps these questions Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.79,0:13:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the ones that propel people Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.58,0:13:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cross the line, Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.28,0:13:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that some affairs are an attempt\Nto beat back deadness Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.95,0:13:20.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and an antidote to death. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.98,0:13:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And contrary to what you may think, Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.62,0:13:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affairs are way less about sex Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.41,0:13:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lot more about desire: Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.92,0:13:33.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,desire for attention,\Ndesire to feel special, Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.35,0:13:36.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,desire to feel important. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.07,0:13:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the very structure of an affair, Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.24,0:13:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fact that you can\Nnever have your lover, Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.43,0:13:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeps you wanting. Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.07,0:13:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That in itself is a desire machine, Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.81,0:13:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the incompleteness,\Nthe ambiguity, Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.60,0:13:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeps you wanting\Nthat which you cannot have. Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.76,0:13:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now some of you probably think Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.59,0:13:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that affairs don't happen Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.38,0:14:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in open relationships, but they do. Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.67,0:14:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, the conversation\Nabout monogamy Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.02,0:14:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not the same as\Nthe conversation about infidelity. Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.29,0:14:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the fact is that it seems\Nthat even when we have Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.80,0:14:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the freedom to have other sexual partners, Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.72,0:14:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we still seem to be lured\Nby the power of the forbidden, Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.67,0:14:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if we do that which we\Nare not supposed to do, Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.16,0:14:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we feel like we are really\Ndoing what we what. Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.38,0:14:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've also told\Nquite a few of my patients Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.84,0:14:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if they could bring Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.58,0:14:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into their relationships Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.69,0:14:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one tenth of the boldness,\Nthe imagination, and the verve Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.29,0:14:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they put into their affairs, Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.24,0:14:42.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they probably would never need to see me. Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.40,0:14:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do we heal from an affair? Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.18,0:14:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Desire runs deep. Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.48,0:14:53.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Betrayal runs deep. Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.26,0:14:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it can be healed. Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.66,0:14:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And some affairs are death knells Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.63,0:15:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for relationships that were\Nalready dying on the vine, Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.32,0:15:06.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but others will jolt us\Ninto new possibilities. Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.13,0:15:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact is, the majority of couples Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.17,0:15:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have experienced affairs\Nstay together, Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.75,0:15:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but some of them will merely survive, Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.33,0:15:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and others will actually be able\Nto turn a crisis into an opportunity. Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.64,0:15:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'll be able to turn this\Ninto a generative experience. Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.61,0:15:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm actually thinking even more so\Nfor the deceived partner, Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.12,0:15:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who will often say, Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.91,0:15:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You think I didn't want more? Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.70,0:15:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm not the one who did it." Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.88,0:15:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now that the affair is exposed, Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.15,0:15:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they too get to claim more, Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.10,0:15:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they no longer have\Nto uphold the status quo Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.12,0:15:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that may not have been working\Nthat well for them either. Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.28,0:15:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've noticed that a lot of couples Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.16,0:15:49.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the immediate aftermath of an affair, Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.29,0:15:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of this new disorder Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.27,0:15:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that may actually lead to a new order, Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.52,0:15:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will have depths of conversations\Nwith honesty and openness Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.05,0:15:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they haven't had in decades, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.67,0:16:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and partners who were sexually indifferent Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.64,0:16:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find themselves suddenly\Nso lustfully voracious, Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.22,0:16:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't know where it's coming from. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.77,0:16:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something about the fear of loss Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.03,0:16:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will rekindle desire Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.86,0:16:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make way for\Nan entirely new kind of truth. Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.48,0:16:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when an affair is exposed, Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.13,0:16:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are some of the specific things\Nthat couples can do? Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.21,0:16:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know from trauma Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.04,0:16:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that healing begins Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.10,0:16:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the perpetrator\Nacknowledges their wrongdoing. Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.28,0:16:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for the partner who had the affair, Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.06,0:16:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Nick, Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.99,0:16:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one thing is to end the affair, Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.78,0:16:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the other is the essential,\Nimportant act of expressing Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.05,0:16:50.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guilt and remorse for hurting his wife. Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.79,0:16:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the truth is Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.65,0:16:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I have noticed that quite a lot\Nof people who have affairs Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.30,0:16:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may feel terribly guilty\Nfor hurting their partner, Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.20,0:17:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they don't feel guilty\Nfor the experience of the affair itself. Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.22,0:17:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that distinction is important. Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.75,0:17:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Nick, he needs to hold vigil\Nfor the relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.13,0:17:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He needs to become for a while\Nthe protector of the boundaries. Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.36,0:17:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's his responsibility to bring it up, Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.73,0:17:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if he thinks about it, Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.87,0:17:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he can relieve Heather\Nfrom the obsession, Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.98,0:17:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and from having to make sure\Nthat the affair isn't forgotten, Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.09,0:17:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that in itself\Nbegins to restore trust. Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.64,0:17:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Heather, Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.52,0:17:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or deceived partners, Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.42,0:17:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is essential to do things Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.30,0:17:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that bring back a sense of self-worth, Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.62,0:17:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to surround oneself with love\Nand with friends and activities Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.04,0:17:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that give back joy\Nand meaning and identity. Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.92,0:17:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But even more important Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.82,0:17:50.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to curb the curiosity\Nto mine for the sordid details Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.81,0:17:52.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- Where were you? Where did you do it? Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.100,0:17:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How often? Is she better\Nthan me in bed? -- Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.76,0:17:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questions that only inflict more pain Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.22,0:18:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and keep you awake at night, Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.54,0:18:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and instead switch to what I call\Nthe investigative questions, Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.42,0:18:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ones that mine\Nthe meaning and the motives. Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.78,0:18:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did this affair mean for you? Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.85,0:18:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What were you able to express\Nor experience there Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.78,0:18:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you could no longer do with me? Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.26,0:18:19.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was it like for you\Nwhen you came home? Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.19,0:18:21.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it about us that you value? Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.100,0:18:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you pleased this is over? Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.31,0:18:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every affair will redefine a relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.61,0:18:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and every couple will determine Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.65,0:18:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the legacy of the affair will be. Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.95,0:18:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But affairs are here to stay, Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.99,0:18:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're not going away, Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.22,0:18:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the dilemmas of love and desire, Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.59,0:18:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't yield just simple answers Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.42,0:18:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of black and white and good and bad Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.76,0:18:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and victim and perpetrator. Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.41,0:18:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Betrayal in a relationship\Ncomes in many forms. Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.50,0:19:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many ways\Nthat we betray our partner: Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.70,0:19:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with contempt, with neglect, Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.86,0:19:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with indifference, with violence. Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.100,0:19:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sexual betrayal is only\None way to hurt a partner. Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.66,0:19:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, the victim of an affair Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.06,0:19:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not always the victim of the marriage. Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.90,0:19:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, you've listened to me, Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.71,0:19:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I know what you're thinking: Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.98,0:19:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she has a French accent, Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.26,0:19:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she must be pro-affair. Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.88,0:19:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.78,0:19:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you're wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.64,0:19:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not French. Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.94,0:19:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) (Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.70,0:19:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not pro-affair. Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.30,0:19:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But because I think Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.43,0:19:49.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that good can come out of an affair, Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.10,0:19:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have often been asked\Nthis very strange question: Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.45,0:19:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would I ever recommend it? Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.40,0:19:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I would no more recommend\Nyou to have an affair Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.48,0:20:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than I would recommend you to have cancer, Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.11,0:20:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet we know that people\Nwho have been ill Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.71,0:20:08.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often talk about their illness\Nhas yielded them a new perspective. Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.61,0:20:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The main question that I've been asked\Nsince I arrived at this conference Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.88,0:20:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I said I would talk\Nabout infidelity is, for or against? Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.36,0:20:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.15,0:20:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.36,0:20:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I look at affairs from a dual perspective: Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.40,0:20:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hurt and betrayal on one side, Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.65,0:20:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,growth and self-discovery on the other, Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.62,0:20:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it did to you\Nand what it meant for me. Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.59,0:20:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so when a couple comes to me Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.98,0:20:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the aftermath of an affair Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.28,0:20:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has been revealed, Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.23,0:20:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will often tell them this: Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.62,0:20:47.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today in the West, Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.66,0:20:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of us are going to have\Ntwo or three relationships Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.63,0:20:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or marriages, Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.56,0:20:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of us are going\Nto do it with the same person. Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.39,0:21:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You first marriage is over. Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.50,0:21:05.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you like to create\Na second one together? Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.33,0:21:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.38,0:21:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)