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Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.54,0:00:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ROTHENBERG:\NIf you don't know what you're doing
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.68,0:00:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out here in the Southwest\Nin this kind of isolation,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.76,0:00:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you don't understand that\Nyou're supposed to have work
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.84,0:00:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a purpose to every day,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.00,0:00:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to float off\Ninto the stratosphere
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.48,0:00:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or move very quickly\Nback to an urban center.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.96,0:00:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ scraping ]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.24,0:00:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first year was a very hard\Nadjustment just to light--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.40,0:00:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to the amount\Nof light here.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.00,0:00:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I did make modifications\Nin my studio plan
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.28,0:00:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cut out some light
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.68,0:00:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to reproduce the New York\Nsituation of floodlights.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.12,0:01:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love red.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.32,0:01:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use a lot of red.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.56,0:01:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use innumerable tubes\Nof white.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.01,0:01:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, I try to dirty down\Nmost of the colors that I use
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.08,0:01:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than use them\Nin their pure form.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.00,0:01:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You squeeze a tube of color\Nand you see this bright green
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.08,0:01:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's just frightening.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.90,0:01:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's this pure color\Nthat somebody mixed up
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.04,0:01:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you just have to\Nimmediately get after it
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.63,0:01:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ laughs ]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.04,0:01:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, uh, make it, you know,\Nfight with orange or something.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.68,0:01:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tend to make all my paintings\Nlooking down.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.74,0:01:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a point of view\Nthat I've established
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.96,0:01:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since living here.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.76,0:01:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you don't have that\Nin the city,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.88,0:01:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but living on the hills\Nand ups and downs and stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.00,0:02:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then being on a ladder\Nso much,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.52,0:02:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm starting to have\Nthis kind of natural way
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.96,0:02:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of not looking at something\Nbut down on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.08,0:02:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Say there was a dead cow\Nin the creek once--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.20,0:02:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which there was--\Nmysteriously.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.96,0:02:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um, I saw the cow\Nfrom about 40 feet above.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.88,0:02:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that painting became\N"Galisteo Creek."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.08,0:02:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I've taken\Nwhat I learned outside
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.64,0:02:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and brought it\Ninto these interiors.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.52,0:02:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now that's pretty much\Nwhat I want to do with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.45,0:02:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the studio painting\Nbecame extremely green,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.12,0:02:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that was out of\Nthe preceding body of work--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.28,0:02:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the "Domino" paintings--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.36,0:02:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I felt free to take green\Nright out of a landscape context
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.32,0:03:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into any operation I cared to.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.24,0:03:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Green became\Na very exciting event.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.36,0:03:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It felt fresh.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.10,0:03:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Red-- red is just like\Npart of my internal palette
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.00,0:03:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a... a warm, warm tone.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.36,0:03:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then my other favorite deal\Nis dirty white,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.94,0:03:24.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.19,0:03:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would be\Ntoo bright and colorful.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.10,0:03:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ laughs ]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.76,0:03:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not my nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.16,0:03:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's got to be traces\Nof 15-year-old turpentine
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.12,0:03:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in those cans.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.64,0:03:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every painting carries through\Nthe same brushes
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.08,0:03:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the same moves\Nas the last painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.76,0:04:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But again,\Nif I need a clear color
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.60,0:04:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't see that any of\Nmy cans are going to give me
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.80,0:04:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything but, you know,\Nthe dirty down,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.00,0:04:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll start a new can
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.76,0:04:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually once in a while\Nwash a brush...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.24,0:04:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it will be free\Nof old colors.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.16,0:04:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a very social kid up\Nthrough college, past college.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.23,0:04:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, uh, no, and I don't think\Nanybody that knew me
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.88,0:04:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in high school or college\Nwould ever have thought that I
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.69,0:04:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have been\Nsuccessful at anything
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.12,0:04:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much less spending\N80% of my life alone
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.68,0:04:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a white room...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.19,0:04:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ laughs ]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.38,0:04:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making work. It's... it's odd.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.90,0:05:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a wonderful world\Nin the early '70s.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.36,0:05:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Artists worked with dancers.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.64,0:05:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very mixed up.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.84,0:05:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very interdisciplinary.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.70,0:05:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I performed with Joan Jonas,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.80,0:05:20.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was so much fun.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.30,0:05:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had studied painting. \NI was interested in painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.60,0:05:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I got a studio\Nand first started painting
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.96,0:05:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I started getting\Na little attention for my work
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.60,0:05:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had a show\Nand I sold a painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.52,0:05:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then I started making\Nmore paintings,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.52,0:05:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to find out my identity.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.76,0:05:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I stumbled\Non the horse,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.68,0:05:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went, "Okay, this can be\Nmy Jasper Johns Flag."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.08,0:05:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This can be nothing to me,\Nbecause I don't like horses.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.78,0:05:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can draw a line through it\Nand make it flat.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.48,0:05:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can take all the things\Nthat I've learned
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.12,0:05:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the last couple years
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.40,0:05:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and negate painting \Nas much as possible
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.89,0:06:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of illusionism \Nand shadow
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.62,0:06:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and composition\Nand stuff,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.32,0:06:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was my run\Nfrom '73 or '74 to '80.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.79,0:06:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what I guess I made my reputation on, \Nbecause they were acceptable
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.23,0:06:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as paintings and \Nacceptable as, um...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.38,0:06:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not going backwards.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.21,0:06:22.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But most artists really wish\Nthey had a series
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.79,0:06:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where one painting would lead\Nto the next painting,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.12,0:06:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it would be\Na variation on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.40,0:06:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what happened\Nin my early career-- the horses.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.73,0:06:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the paintings\Nare more of a battle
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.88,0:06:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to satisfy myself with now and\NI do not have a sense of series.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.36,0:06:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This, as you see here,\Nthese are two snake paintings.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.02,0:06:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two paintings that are about
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.16,0:06:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this idea I had called\N"meaningless gestures."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.62,0:06:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And two paintings\Nthat are a reflection
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.32,0:06:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my domestic situation\Nin the house there.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.96,0:06:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And each of them,\Nthe second painting
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.60,0:06:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seems to complete the series,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.40,0:06:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is weird,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.48,0:07:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'd like to get\Na hold of something
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.48,0:07:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be on that idea\Nfor a couple of years at least.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.00,0:07:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's not happening\Nat the moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.00,0:07:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm able to work through
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.50,0:07:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,periods when there's no real
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.34,0:07:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important idea in my mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.31,0:07:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can draw;\NI can learn to make a clay pot.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.48,0:07:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least I find some reason\Nto work just about every day.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.14,0:07:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the block\Nis the terriblest.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.24,0:07:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just terrible.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.52,0:07:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's terrible to have a couple\Nof months where you can't...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.52,0:07:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're disheartened, because\Nyou think everything stinks.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.92,0:07:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just do.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.20,0:07:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.52,0:07:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're not in your studio\Nphysically most every day,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.64,0:07:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've denied the possibility\Nof anything happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.40,0:07:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So even if you're reading\Na detective novel,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.16,0:07:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should be there.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.60,0:07:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then sometimes you just
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.52,0:07:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,throw your book\Ndown on the floor,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.72,0:07:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,march off to a painting
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.80,0:08:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.52,0:08:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ah, something's wrong\Nhere and I'm, you know... " Pull the table over,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.16,0:08:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,throw my painting shirt on\Nand get going.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.32,0:08:10.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sometimes hours pass\Nthat I'm working.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.04,0:08:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I almost always do something
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.56,0:08:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before I go in the house\Nto watch the news.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.48,0:08:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, even if I put
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.67,0:08:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wrong stroke on something or change a contour,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.92,0:08:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's\Nthe only stroke I did, I do it
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.00,0:08:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to have done\Nsome work that day.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.00,0:08:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ bird cawing ]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.28,0:08:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I think I'm remarkably lucky\Nto be on this piece of land.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.53,0:08:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not that I think\Nany special thoughts.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.00,0:08:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.00,0:08:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I walk usually\Nabout 45 minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.55,0:08:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just completely\Npart of my pattern,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.02,0:09:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, and sometimes I walk\Nfast with exercise in mind and sometimes I amble.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.50,0:09:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a wonderful place to walk.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.50,0:09:10.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's three or four\Ndifferent terrains to walk in.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.22,0:09:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's meditative.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.88,0:09:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always looking at the ground to \Nlook for a beador an arrowhead
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.32,0:09:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what seems to be\Ntwo pieces of the same pot.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.04,0:09:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you see...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.71,0:09:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that piece goes there.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.64,0:09:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That one definitely goes there.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.36,0:09:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's a small piece\Nof a
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.70,0:09:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,11th- or 12th-century pot.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.16,0:09:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I keep looking at this painting\Nand thinking, why can't I just nail it--
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.08,0:10:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just make it be whatever\Nit's supposed to be and move on?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.52,0:10:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's constant reviewing
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.28,0:10:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I can't say what\Nmakes me say that's wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.28,0:10:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that stays, that goes,\Nthis should be longer.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.49,0:10:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, uh, it's sitting there\Nand looking,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.64,0:10:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and going, "Uh-uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.51,0:10:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to do something."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.46,0:10:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it had to be done\Nwith color.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.88,0:10:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One's been bugging me for--\Nit's been around the studio for
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.00,0:10:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,four or five months\Non and off, reworked.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.04,0:10:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I kept thinking,\N"Oh, it's okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.48,0:10:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not interested any more\Nin doing this, so it's okay."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.60,0:10:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it simply... wasn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.85,0:10:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's closer I think now\Nto where I can leave it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.36,0:11:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very few paintings\Nthat come fast and sharp,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.92,0:11:07.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the small snake painting in\Nthere was two days, three days,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.16,0:11:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't want to touch it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.28,0:11:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is what it is\Nand it's... it...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.40,0:11:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, uh, I like it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.50,0:11:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not really\Na "less is more" person, but
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.21,0:11:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I figure...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.28,0:11:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a hand on a table\Nsuggests a human being.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.96,0:11:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to get too literal\Nabout things.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.64,0:11:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want the viewer to be able\Nto do the work, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.31,0:11:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I find a dragonfly beautiful
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.24,0:11:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a snake beautiful.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.23,0:11:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, and many things beautiful.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.31,0:11:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not a... a...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.34,0:12:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a goal to try for it or expect to achieve it\Nin my own work.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.87,0:12:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm trying for,\Nlet's take truth...
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.39,0:12:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ laughs ]
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.01,0:12:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some kind of truth\Nabout some kind of thing.