WEBVTT 00:00:11.193 --> 00:00:12.391 -[Hank] This is nice. 00:00:12.391 --> 00:00:13.725 -[Rujeko] Mm-hm. 00:00:17.829 --> 00:00:22.010 So are these negatives all your grandfather's photographs? 00:00:22.010 --> 00:00:25.260 -Yeah, and I haven't seen them, actually. 00:00:25.944 --> 00:00:27.570 It's kind of awesome just to, like, 00:00:27.570 --> 00:00:30.119 open up a box and... 00:00:30.119 --> 00:00:31.265 find these things. 00:00:31.265 --> 00:00:32.608 These... 00:00:32.608 --> 00:00:35.030 This is one of the first shoots I was ever on. 00:00:35.030 --> 00:00:36.300 -[Rujeko] Oh, wow. 00:00:36.300 --> 00:00:40.480 -[Hank] These are photographs from my mom's archive. 00:00:40.480 --> 00:00:42.970 This is a picture I've used a lot in my work. 00:00:42.970 --> 00:00:43.970 -[Rujeko]Mm-hm. 00:00:43.970 --> 00:00:45.680 -[Hank] They're being baptized in the pool. 00:00:45.680 --> 00:00:47.140 -You see the horns here and... 00:00:47.140 --> 00:00:48.140 -[Rujeko] Mm-hm. 00:00:48.140 --> 00:00:49.140 -[Hank] This woman here. 00:00:49.140 --> 00:00:50.780 Look, this is so powerful. 00:00:50.780 --> 00:00:51.780 -[Rujeko] Mm-hm. 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:55.760 -The two things that I remember people saying to me as early as 00:00:55.760 --> 00:00:58.944 three or four years old are "You ask too many questions" 00:00:58.944 --> 00:01:01.600 and "You're not supposed to stare at people." 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:03.170 ♪playful oscillating synths♪ 00:01:03.170 --> 00:01:09.157 [chuckling] Most of my work is some combination of the two. 00:01:09.157 --> 00:01:12.592 Photography was a reason to stare. 00:01:14.119 --> 00:01:16.830 All of my work is about framing and context, 00:01:16.830 --> 00:01:19.730 and about how, depending on where you're standing, 00:01:19.730 --> 00:01:23.390 it really shapes your perspective of the truth, 00:01:23.390 --> 00:01:25.687 of reality, and what's important. 00:01:25.687 --> 00:01:27.393 ♪♪♪ 00:01:27.393 --> 00:01:32.143 Along with photography, I have to work in different mediums. 00:01:32.143 --> 00:01:35.446 ♪♪♪ 00:01:35.446 --> 00:01:39.540 I have to try different ways to look at something that we might 00:01:39.540 --> 00:01:42.133 think that we've already looked at a thousand times. 00:01:47.292 --> 00:01:53.052 ♪arpeggiated synth music♪ 00:01:53.052 --> 00:01:56.420 I was reading Roland Barthes' book 'Camera Lucida,' 00:01:56.420 --> 00:01:59.281 where he talks about the punctum. 00:01:59.281 --> 00:02:03.341 His perspective of the punctum is the thing that pierces you, 00:02:03.341 --> 00:02:06.755 the thing that sticks with you in the photograph. 00:02:07.371 --> 00:02:11.860 When I look at this photograph of a Harlem Globetrotter 00:02:11.860 --> 00:02:14.080 standing in front of the Statue of Liberty, 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.581 the punctum for me was this arm. 00:02:16.581 --> 00:02:19.382 ♪♪♪ 00:02:19.382 --> 00:02:23.700 I like to balance the spectacle element of sports 00:02:23.700 --> 00:02:28.607 with the context of history and politics. 00:02:30.477 --> 00:02:33.881 During my research, I was reading Ernest Cole's landmark book 00:02:33.881 --> 00:02:35.019 'House of Bondage.' 00:02:36.501 --> 00:02:40.360 He, as a black photographer, traveled all over South Africa 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:43.190 documenting the horrors of apartheid, 00:02:43.190 --> 00:02:46.409 and then smuggled these images out of the country. 00:02:46.409 --> 00:02:51.194 ♪♪♪ 00:02:51.194 --> 00:02:55.200 The specific image of a lineup of nude miners with their arms 00:02:55.200 --> 00:02:58.659 up being strip-searched really struck me. 00:02:58.659 --> 00:03:02.349 I had seen it many times before, but I recognized, 00:03:02.349 --> 00:03:05.600 with a critical eye, that I felt often guilty looking at this 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:09.120 picture because I was always gawking at their bodies. 00:03:09.576 --> 00:03:13.241 My looking at it was reinforcing the oppression. 00:03:13.241 --> 00:03:16.334 ♪♪♪ 00:03:16.334 --> 00:03:19.870 I wanted to remake that image as a sculpture, 00:03:19.870 --> 00:03:21.970 so I titled it Raise Up. 00:03:23.498 --> 00:03:27.036 I want to give viewers a chance to walk around and look up and 00:03:27.036 --> 00:03:28.496 look over, 00:03:28.998 --> 00:03:33.476 to just try to look at these men with dignity. 00:03:33.476 --> 00:03:36.042 ♪♪♪ 00:03:36.042 --> 00:03:39.080 Just about six months after I made that sculpture, 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:41.670 halfway across the world in Ferguson, Missouri, 00:03:41.670 --> 00:03:45.060 the phrase "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" became popular 00:03:45.060 --> 00:03:46.739 after the murder of Mike Brown. 00:03:46.739 --> 00:03:50.450 -[crowd] [chanting] Hands up, don't shoot! 00:03:51.522 --> 00:03:53.551 -[Hank VO] When I finally exhibited this work in the 00:03:53.551 --> 00:03:55.459 United States, 00:03:55.459 --> 00:03:58.486 people called it "the Hands Up, Don't Shoot piece." 00:03:58.486 --> 00:04:01.401 ♪♪♪ 00:04:01.401 --> 00:04:06.110 I see everything as connected, so if I'm making work about 00:04:06.110 --> 00:04:08.940 coal miners or Ferguson 00:04:08.940 --> 00:04:11.040 or basketball, 00:04:11.678 --> 00:04:15.709 frankly, a lot of the bodies are connected through this history 00:04:15.709 --> 00:04:17.733 of oppression. 00:04:20.788 --> 00:04:23.357 -[Hank] Zoom in, and then you can just cycle through the 00:04:23.357 --> 00:04:24.215 pages. 00:04:24.876 --> 00:04:26.240 Mm-hm. 00:04:28.150 --> 00:04:31.690 I'm so glad that we chose the 3D-scan real hands for this 00:04:31.690 --> 00:04:34.766 instead of digitally-made hands. 00:04:34.766 --> 00:04:36.130 -[Sam Giarratani] I wanna show you the finger. 00:04:36.130 --> 00:04:39.890 They take the 3D print, and then they coat it with this wax, 00:04:39.890 --> 00:04:42.360 so that it can stick to the ceramic. 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.042 And that level of texture is gonna come across in the bronze. 00:04:45.042 --> 00:04:46.280 -[Rujeko] Yes, that is crazy. 00:04:46.280 --> 00:04:47.280 -[Sam] Yeah. 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:48.280 -[Rujeko] They look good. 00:04:48.280 --> 00:04:50.540 -And so, do you know what that piece is? 00:04:50.751 --> 00:04:52.220 -[Sam] No, this is actually just a sample. 00:04:53.155 --> 00:04:54.708 -[Rujeko] Sample for, like, the patina? 00:04:54.708 --> 00:04:55.434 -[Sam] Yeah. 00:04:55.434 --> 00:04:58.830 -[Hank] This is so nuts imagining how they broke the 00:04:58.830 --> 00:05:01.082 sculpture into 650 pieces... 00:05:01.082 --> 00:05:01.877 -[Sam] Mm-hm. 00:05:01.877 --> 00:05:02.377 -[Will] Mm-hm. 00:05:02.377 --> 00:05:03.820 -[Hank] And how many people are working on this one. 00:05:03.820 --> 00:05:05.320 -[Sam] Yeah, it's all hands on deck. 00:05:05.320 --> 00:05:06.320 -The whole foundry. 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:06.955 -[Rujeko] Great. 00:05:06.955 --> 00:05:10.110 -Yeah, we break ground on Coretta Scott King's birthday, 00:05:10.110 --> 00:05:11.630 and then... 00:05:11.630 --> 00:05:13.900 it debuts on MLK Day. 00:05:13.900 --> 00:05:14.900 -[Rujeko] Mm-hm. 00:05:14.900 --> 00:05:17.511 -And so the eight months in between, 00:05:17.511 --> 00:05:19.491 everything's gotta get done. 00:05:19.810 --> 00:05:23.324 ♪sparse ethereal music♪ 00:05:23.324 --> 00:05:26.729 -[Hank VO] A few years ago, I was invited to submit a proposal 00:05:26.729 --> 00:05:29.189 for the Boston Common – 00:05:29.189 --> 00:05:32.251 an installation in memorial to Coretta Scott King 00:05:32.251 --> 00:05:34.240 and Martin Luther King. 00:05:36.292 --> 00:05:39.509 I didn't really know at the time that two of the most prominent 00:05:39.509 --> 00:05:43.500 civil rights leaders from the South actually met and fell in 00:05:43.500 --> 00:05:45.212 love in Boston. 00:05:46.945 --> 00:05:51.759 The fact that their love would actually ripple out 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:55.569 in so many ways from that first meeting was really profound 00:05:55.569 --> 00:05:56.813 for me. 00:05:58.569 --> 00:06:02.060 I wanted to make a sculpture that was inspired by their 00:06:02.060 --> 00:06:04.900 intimacy that's larger than life. 00:06:05.652 --> 00:06:08.910 I found a picture of them at the award ceremony 00:06:08.910 --> 00:06:11.324 for the Nobel Peace Prize. 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:13.919 The punctum of the photograph -- 00:06:13.919 --> 00:06:16.169 the part that I was struck by -- 00:06:16.169 --> 00:06:19.494 was the way that their arms were wrapped around each other. 00:06:20.018 --> 00:06:23.569 His weight was resting on her. 00:06:24.846 --> 00:06:28.750 The fact that we speak so much about Martin Luther King without 00:06:28.750 --> 00:06:31.760 acknowledging or celebrating Coretta Scott King was something 00:06:31.760 --> 00:06:37.542 that was important to me, as well as everyone involved. 00:06:38.584 --> 00:06:42.970 There was tension, you know, in me and also my collaborators 00:06:42.970 --> 00:06:47.819 about what does it mean to not include their faces and other 00:06:47.819 --> 00:06:49.098 body parts? 00:06:50.420 --> 00:06:53.256 But really, when I think about Martin Luther King and 00:06:53.256 --> 00:06:56.199 Coretta Scott King, I have a feeling. 00:06:56.199 --> 00:07:00.276 It's not the pictures I've seen, it's a sense in my heart. 00:07:02.260 --> 00:07:05.410 There is a poetry in these interlocking arms and this 00:07:05.410 --> 00:07:08.646 sculpture that people will go inside of 00:07:08.646 --> 00:07:11.142 and replicate that gesture. 00:07:12.305 --> 00:07:15.996 We wanted the sculpture to actually get to the heart of it. 00:07:29.881 --> 00:07:31.289 -[Dr. Deborah Willis]:We always talk about the hidden 00:07:31.289 --> 00:07:33.530 archive of Black history that's 00:07:33.530 --> 00:07:37.379 not hidden but it's there, and it's really the... 00:07:37.379 --> 00:07:41.391 the researcher who has to reimagine the archive. 00:07:42.417 --> 00:07:46.085 When I think about, you know, Aunt Cora's quilts... 00:07:46.085 --> 00:07:47.930 -[Hank] I wonder if that's part of the inspiration for me -- 00:07:47.930 --> 00:07:51.270 just a lot of the work that I do is always very much in 00:07:51.270 --> 00:07:54.660 conversation subconsciously with the work you're doing. 00:07:55.526 --> 00:07:57.015 -[Deb VO] I'm Deb Willis. 00:07:57.015 --> 00:07:59.580 I'm a photographer, a professor. 00:07:59.580 --> 00:08:04.160 I teach at New York University Tisch School of the Arts, 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.430 chair of the photography program there. 00:08:06.430 --> 00:08:07.919 ♪ethereal synth music♪ 00:08:07.919 --> 00:08:10.305 I'm a writer about photography. 00:08:10.305 --> 00:08:15.432 ♪♪♪ 00:08:15.432 --> 00:08:19.009 As a child, Hank was fascinated with photographs. 00:08:19.009 --> 00:08:21.210 He would go into the photographic album, 00:08:21.210 --> 00:08:24.110 ask my mother, "Why is this photograph in color? 00:08:24.110 --> 00:08:25.931 And why is this in black and white?" 00:08:25.931 --> 00:08:29.639 And he would change the pages to tell his own story. 00:08:30.619 --> 00:08:33.700 At that time, I worked for the Schomburg Center of Research in 00:08:33.700 --> 00:08:37.146 Black Culture as a photo specialist/archivist. 00:08:37.556 --> 00:08:39.080 After school, 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.700 I would pick him up during my break, 00:08:41.700 --> 00:08:43.930 take him to work with me. 00:08:44.660 --> 00:08:46.650 He always wanted to know, 00:08:46.650 --> 00:08:50.040 "Why do you have photographs of people we don't know... 00:08:50.040 --> 00:08:51.709 [laughs] in our house?" 00:08:51.983 --> 00:08:55.810 And I said, "Because we need to know the stories 00:08:55.810 --> 00:08:57.620 of the people in the image." 00:09:01.291 --> 00:09:02.950 -[Hank VO] As a child, with my mother's work, 00:09:02.950 --> 00:09:05.860 I didn't really understand what she was doing. 00:09:05.860 --> 00:09:10.010 Now, I understand that her work, along with many others', 00:09:10.010 --> 00:09:14.101 was really critical in building and expanding the field of 00:09:14.101 --> 00:09:17.880 photography, and especially Black photography. 00:09:19.042 --> 00:09:22.779 Looking at the way that Hank grew up in a professional 00:09:22.779 --> 00:09:27.440 archive of a library but also in the family archive 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:32.448 made him curious about how to create a narrative about Black life. 00:09:34.067 --> 00:09:41.152 ♪erratic synth music♪ 00:09:41.152 --> 00:09:46.160 What I took from photography was incredible 00:09:46.160 --> 00:09:51.169 knowledge and experience of how to look critically at the world, 00:09:51.169 --> 00:09:52.755 at myself. 00:09:53.485 --> 00:09:56.740 Because I've always been reaching to the past and trying 00:09:56.740 --> 00:09:58.584 to connect with it, 00:09:58.584 --> 00:10:00.560 sometimes the closest I could get to history 00:10:00.560 --> 00:10:03.022 is the photographic document. 00:10:08.790 --> 00:10:33.843 ♪ethereal synth music♪ 00:10:33.843 --> 00:10:36.290 There's something really just beautiful about actually 00:10:36.290 --> 00:10:39.881 beginning to see the scale now that there is over 500 pieces 00:10:39.881 --> 00:10:41.337 welded together. 00:10:41.337 --> 00:10:42.610 It's like, it's happening! 00:10:45.164 --> 00:10:48.640 I would estimate that there are at least a thousand people 00:10:48.640 --> 00:10:51.734 who've had to work on it in some way, shape, or form. 00:10:51.734 --> 00:10:54.000 ♪♪♪ 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.366 Engineers, architects, and the community boards... 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.188 and then getting it shipped across the country. 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:12.572 ♪sparse synth music♪ 00:11:12.572 --> 00:11:15.170 The sculpture is about the Kings, 00:11:16.105 --> 00:11:20.008 but it also is really imbued with 00:11:20.008 --> 00:11:23.420 the care, consideration, passion, and talent of so many 00:11:23.420 --> 00:11:24.660 other people. 00:11:26.689 --> 00:11:29.115 -[Roberto Morales VO] We're working on something historic. 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:35.290 Martin Luther King, he talked for the people like me. 00:11:35.290 --> 00:11:39.809 ♪uplifting synth music♪ 00:11:39.809 --> 00:11:42.690 -[Sam] We wanted to make sure that we were really thinking 00:11:42.690 --> 00:11:46.572 about all different kinds of people 00:11:46.572 --> 00:11:48.345 coming into the sculpture. 00:11:48.345 --> 00:11:52.120 We wanted to make sure wheelchairs can go inside. 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.190 We want people to come up and touch, 00:11:54.190 --> 00:11:58.590 so the patina lends itself to being touched. 00:11:59.434 --> 00:12:01.793 -[Jonathan] The story of Martin and Coretta was inspirational, 00:12:01.793 --> 00:12:04.965 and also looking at the other 65 heroes of the local 00:12:04.965 --> 00:12:06.818 Boston Civil Rights Movement, 00:12:07.890 --> 00:12:10.450 honoring those names in the plaza, 00:12:11.704 --> 00:12:14.230 and pushing forward a new narrative of what it means to be 00:12:14.230 --> 00:12:15.908 in the city of Boston. 00:12:17.846 --> 00:12:22.246 -[crowd] Ten, nine, eight, seven, 00:12:22.246 --> 00:12:26.583 six, five, four, three, 00:12:26.583 --> 00:12:28.666 two, one! 00:12:28.666 --> 00:12:33.947 [cheers and applause] 00:12:34.608 --> 00:12:42.000 ♪tender synth music♪ 00:12:51.606 --> 00:12:55.790 -[Hank VO] There are so many monuments to heroes of war, 00:12:55.790 --> 00:13:00.782 and there are not very many to heroes of nonviolence. 00:13:03.199 --> 00:13:06.300 I'd like to believe that this is just the beginning of a new way 00:13:06.300 --> 00:13:09.940 of thinking about how public space can be viewed, 00:13:09.940 --> 00:13:15.734 and how we reflect on the past with care and concern for the future. 00:13:17.490 --> 00:13:20.529 I want to make work that really gives people a sense of pride 00:13:20.529 --> 00:13:24.430 and connection, that's going to mean something to people beyond 00:13:24.430 --> 00:13:28.975 my circle, beyond my world, and beyond this lifetime. 00:13:41.053 --> 00:13:53.131 ♪ ethereal ambient music ♪