1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 I'm going to talk about consciousness. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Why consciousness? 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Well, it's a curiously neglected subjected, 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 both in our scientific and our philosophical culture. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Now why is that curious? 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Well, it is the most important aspect of our lives 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,000 for a very simple, logical reason, 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,000 namely, it's a necessary condition on anything 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 being important in our lives that we're conscious. 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,000 You care about science, philosophy, music, art, whatever, 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000 it's no good if you're a zombie or in a coma, right? 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 So conscious is number one. 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 The second reason is that when people do 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 get interested in it, as I think they should, 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 they tend to say the most appalling things. 16 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,000 And then, even when they're not saying appalling things 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 and they're really trying to do serious research, 18 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 well, it's been slow. Progress has been slow. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 When I first got interested in this, I thought, well, 20 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 it's a straightforward problem in biology. 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Let's get these brain stabbers to get busy and figure out 22 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 how it works in the brain. 23 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 So I went over to UCFS and I talked to all 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 the heavy-duty neurobiologists there, 25 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 and they showed some impatience, 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 as scientists often do when you ask them embarrassing questions. 27 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,000 But the thing that struck me is, one guy said in exasperation, 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 a very famous neurobiologist, he said, "Look, 29 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,000 in my discipline it's okay to be interested in consciousness, 30 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 but get tenure first. Get tenure first." 31 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Now I've been working on this for a long time. 32 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 I think now you might actually get tenure 33 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 by working on consciousness. 34 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 If so, that's a real step forward. 35 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Okay, now why then is this curious reluctance 36 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000 and curious hostility to consciousness. 37 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Well, I think it's a combination of two features 38 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 of our intellectual culture 39 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 that like to think they're opposing each other 40 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,000 but in fact they share a common set of assumptions. 41 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 One feature is the tradition of religious dualism. 42 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Consciousness is not a part of the physical world. 43 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 It's a part of the spiritual world. 44 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 It belongs to the soul, 45 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 and the soul is not a part of the physical world. 46 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 That's the tradition of God, the soul, and immortality. 47 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 There's another tradition that thinks it's opposed to this 48 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 but accepts the worst assumption. 49 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,000 That tradition thinks that we are heavy-duty scientific materialists. 50 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Consciousness is not a part of the physical world. 51 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Either it doesn't exist at all, or it's something else, 52 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 a computer program or some damnful thing, 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 but in any case it's not part of science. 54 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 And I used to get an argument that really gave me a stomachache. 55 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Here's how it went. 56 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Science is objective. Consciousness is subjective. 57 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Therefore there cannot be a science of consciousness. 58 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Okay, so these twin traditions are paralyzing us. 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 It's very hard to get out of these twin traditions. 60 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 And I have only one real message in this lecture, 61 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 and that is, consciousness is a biological phenomenon 62 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 like photosynthesis, digestion, mitosis, you know, 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 all the biological phenomena, and once you accept that, 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,000 most though not all of the hard problems 65 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 about consciousness simply evaporate. 66 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 And I'm going to go through some of them. 67 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Okay, now I promised you to tell you some 68 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 of the outrageous things said about consciousness. 69 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 One: consciousness does not exist. 70 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 It's an illusion, like sunsets. 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Science has shown sunsets and rainbows are illusions. 72 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,000 So consciousness is an illusion. 73 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Two: well, maybe it exists, but it's really something else. 74 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,000 It's a computer program running in the brain. 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Three: no, the only thing that exists is really behavior. 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 It's embarrassing how influential behaviorism was, 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 but I'll get back to that. 78 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 And four: maybe consciousness exists, 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 but it can't make any difference to the world. 80 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 How could spirituality move anything? 81 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Now, whenever somebody tells me that, I think, 82 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 you want to see spirituality move something? 83 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Watch. I decide consciously to raise my arm, 84 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 and the damn thing goes up. 85 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 (Laughter) (Applause) 86 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Furthermore, notice this: 87 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 we do not say, "Well, it's a bit like the weather in Geneva. 88 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Some days it goes up and some days it doesn't go up." 89 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 No. It goes up whenever I damn well want it to. 90 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Okay. I'm going to tell you how that's possible. 91 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Now, I haven't yet given you a definition. 92 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 You can't do this if you don't give a definition. 93 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 People always say consciousness is very hard to define. 94 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 I think it's rather easy to define 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 if you're not trying to give a scientific definition. 96 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 We're not ready for a scientific definition, 97 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 but here's a commonsense definition. 98 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Consciousness consists of all those states of feeling 99 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 or sentience or awareness. 100 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000 It begins in the morning when you wake up from a dreamless sleep, 101 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 and it goes on all day until you fall asleep 102 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,000 or die or otherwise become unconscious. 103 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Dreams are a form of consciousness on this definition. 104 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Now, that's the commonsense definition. That's our target. 105 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 If you're talking about that, you're not talking about consciousness. 106 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,000 But they think, "Well, if that's it, that's an awful problem. 107 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 How can such a thing exist as part of the real world?" 108 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 And this, if you've ever had a philosophy course, 109 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,000 this is known as the famous mind-body problem. 110 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 I think that has a simple solution too. I'm going to give it to you. 111 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,000 And here it is: all of our conscious states, without exception, 112 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,000 are caused by lower level neurobiological processes in the brain, 113 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 and they are realized in the brain 114 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 as higher level or system features. 115 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 It's about as mysterious as the liquidity of water. 116 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Right? The liquidity is not an extra juice squirted out 117 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 by the H2O molecules. 118 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 It's a condition that the system is in. 119 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 And just as the jar full of water can go from liquid to solid 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 depending on the behavior of the molecules, 121 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,000 so your brain can go from a state of being conscious 122 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 to a state of being unconscious, 123 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,000 depending on the behavior of the molecules. 124 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,000 The famous mind-body problem is that simple. 125 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 All right? But now we get into some harder questions. 126 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Let's specify the exact features of consciousness, 127 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 so that we can then answer those four objections 128 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 that I made to it. 129 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Well, the first feature is, it's real and irreducible. 130 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 You can't get rid of it. 131 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,000 You see, the distinction between reality and illusion 132 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 is the distinction between how things 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 consciously seem to us and how they really are. 134 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 It consciously seems like there's 135 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 — I like the French "arc-en-ciel" — 136 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 it seems like there's an arch in the sky, 137 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 or it seems like the sun is setting over the mountains. 138 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 It consciously seems to us, but that's not really happening. 139 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 But for that distinction between 140 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 how things consciously seem and how they really are, 141 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 you can't make that distinction for the very existence of consciousness, 142 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 because where the very existence of consciousness is concerned, 143 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 if it consciously seems to you that you are conscious, 144 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,000 you are conscious. 145 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 I mean, if a bunch of experts come to me and say, 146 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 "We are heavy-duty neurobiologists and we've done a study 147 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 of you, Searle, and we're convinced you are not conscious, 148 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 you are a very cleverly constructed robot," 149 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,000 I don't think, "Well, maybe these guys are right, you know?" 150 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 I don't think that for a moment, because, I mean, 151 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Descartes may have made a lot of mistakes, but he was right about this. 152 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 You cannot doubt the existence of your own consciousness. 153 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Okay, that's the first feature of consciousness. 154 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 It's real and irreducible. 155 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,000 You cannot get rid of it by showing that it's an illusion 156 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,000 in a way that you can with other standard illusions. 157 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Okay, the second feature is this one 158 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 that has been such a source of trouble to us, 159 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,000 and that is, all of our conscious states 160 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 have this qualitative character to them. 161 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 There's something that it feels like to drink beer 162 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 which is not what it feels like to do your income tax 163 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 or listen to music, and this qualitative feel 164 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 automatically generates a third feature, 165 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,000 namely, conscious states are by definition subjective 166 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,000 in the sense that they only exist as experienced 167 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 by some human or animal subject, 168 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 some self that experiences them. 169 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Maybe we'll be able to build a conscious machine. 170 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Since we don't know how our brains do it, 171 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,000 we're not in a position, so far, to build a conscious machine. 172 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Okay. Another feature of consciousness 173 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,000 is that it comes in unified conscious fields. 174 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 So I don't just have the sight of the people in front of me 175 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 and the sound of my voice and the weight of my shoes 176 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 against the floor, but they occur to me 177 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,000 as part of one single great conscious field 178 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 that stretches forward and backward. 179 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 That is the key to understanding 180 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 the enormous power of consciousness. 181 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,000 And we have not been able to do that in a robot. 182 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 The disappointment of robotics derives from the fact 183 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 that we don't know how to make a conscious robot, 184 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,000 so we don't have a machine that can do this kind of thing. 185 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Okay, the next feature of consciousness, 186 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 after this marvelous unified conscious field, 187 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 is that it functions causally in our behavior. 188 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 I gave you a scientific demonstration by raising my hand, 189 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 but how is that possible? 190 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,000 How can it be that this thought in my brain 191 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 can move material objects? 192 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Well, I'll tell you the answer. 193 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 I mean, we don't know the detailed answer, 194 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 but we know the basic part of the answer, and that is, 195 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 there are a sequence of neuron firings, 196 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 and they terminate where the acetylcholine 197 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 is secreted at the axon end plates of the motor neurons. 198 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Sorry to use philosophical terminology here, 199 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,000 but when it's secreted at the axon end plates of the motor neurons, 200 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 a whole lot of wonderful things happen in the ion channels 201 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 and the damned arm goes up. 202 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Now, think of what I told you. 203 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 One and the same event, 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 my conscious decision to raise my arm 205 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 has a level of description where it has all of these 206 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 touchy-feely spiritual qualities. 207 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 It's a thought in my brain, but at the same time, 208 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 it's busy secreting acetylcholine 209 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 and doing all sorts of other things 210 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 as it makes its way from the motor cortex 211 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,000 down through the nerve fibers in the arm. 212 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Now, what that tells us is that our traditional vocabularies 213 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 for discussing these issues are totally obsolete. 214 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,000 One and the same event has a level of description 215 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,000 where it's neurobiological, and another level of description 216 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 where it's mental, and that's a single event, 217 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 and that's how nature works. That's how it's possible 218 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 for consciousness to function causally. 219 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Okay, now with that in mind, 220 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 with going through these various features of consciousness, 221 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 let's go back and answer some of those early objections. 222 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Well, the first one I said was consciousness doesn't exist, 223 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 it's an illusion. Well, I've already answered that. 224 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 I don't think we need to worry about that. 225 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 But the second one had an incredible influence, 226 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,000 and may still be around, and that is, 227 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 "Well, if consciousness exists, it's really something else. 228 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,000 It's really a digital computer program running in your brain 229 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 and that's what we need to do to create consciousness 230 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 is get the right program. 231 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Yeah, forget about the hardware. Any hardware will do 232 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 provided it's rich enough and stable enough to carry the program." 233 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Now, we know that that's wrong. 234 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 I mean, anybody who's thought about computers at all 235 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 can see that that's wrong, because computation 236 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 is defined as symbol manipulation, 237 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 usually thought of as zeros as ones, but any symbols will do. 238 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 You get an algorithm that you can program 239 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 in a binary code, and that's the defining trait 240 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 of the computer program. 241 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,000 But we know that that's purely syntactical. That's symbolic. 242 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,000 We know that actual human consciousness has something more than that. 243 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,000 It's got a content in addition to the syntax. 244 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 It's got a semantics. 245 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Now that argument, I made that argument 30 246 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,000 — oh my God, I don't want to think about it — 247 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 more than 30 years ago, 248 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 but there's a deeper argument implicit in what I've told you, 249 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 and I want to tell you that argument briefly, and that is, 250 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,000 consciousness creates an observer-independent reality. 251 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,000 It creates a reality of money, property, government, 252 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 marriage, CERN conferences, 253 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,000 cocktail parties and summer vacations, 254 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 and all of those are creations of consciousness. 255 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Their existence is observer-relative. 256 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 It's only relative to conscious agents that a piece of paper 257 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 is money or that a bunch of buildings is a university. 258 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Now, ask yourself about computation. 259 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Is that absolute, like force and mass and gravitational attraction? 260 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Or is it observer-relative? 261 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Well, some computations are intrinsic. 262 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 I add two plus two to get four. 263 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 That's going on no matter what anybody thinks. 264 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,000 But when I haul out my pocket calculator 265 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,000 and do the calculation, the only intrinsic phenomenon 266 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,000 is the electronic circuit and its behavior. 267 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 That's the only absolute phenomenon. 268 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 All the rest is interpreted by us. 269 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Computation only exists relative to consciousness. 270 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Either a conscious agent is carrying out the computation, 271 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,000 or he's got a piece of machinery that admits of a computational interpretation. 272 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Now that doesn't mean computation is arbitrary. 273 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 I spent a lot of money on this hardware. 274 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 But we have this persistent confusion 275 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:46,000 between objectivity and subjectivity as features of reality 276 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 and objectivity and subjectivity as features of claims. 277 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 And the bottom line of this part of my talk is this: 278 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,000 you can have a completely objective science, 279 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 a science where you make objectively true claims, 280 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 about a domain whose existence is subjective, 281 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,000 whose existence is in the human brain 282 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 consisting of subjective states of sentience 283 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 or feeling or awareness. 284 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 So the objection that you can't have an objective science of consciousness 285 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,000 because it's subjective and science is objective, that's a pun. 286 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 That's a bad pun on objectivity and subjectivity. 287 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 You can make objective claims 288 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,000 about a domain that is subjective in its mode of existence, 289 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 and indeed that's what neurologists do. 290 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 I mean, you have patients that actually suffer pains, 291 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 and you try to get an objective science of that. 292 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Okay, I promised to refute all these guys, 293 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 and I don't have an awful lot of time left, 294 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 but let me refute a couple more of them. 295 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 I said that behaviorism ought to be 296 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,000 one of the great embarrassments of our intellectual culture, 297 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 because it's refuted the moment you think about it. 298 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Your mental states are identical with your behavior? 299 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Well, think about the distinction between feeling a pain 300 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 and engaging in pain behavior. 301 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 I won't demonstrate pain behavior, but I can tell you 302 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 I'm not having any pains right now. 303 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,000 So it's an obvious mistake. Why did they make the mistake? 304 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 The mistake was — and you can go back and read 305 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 the literature on this, you can see this over and over — 306 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,000 they think if you accept the irreducible existence 307 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 of consciousness, you're giving up on science. 308 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,000 You're giving up on 300 years of human progress 309 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 and human hope and all the rest of it. 310 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 And the message I want to leave you with is, 311 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 consciousness has to become accepted 312 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 as a genuine biological phenomenon, 313 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 as much subject to scientific analysis 314 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 as any other phenomenon in biology, 315 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 or, for that matter, the rest of science. 316 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Thank you very much. 317 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,000 (Applause)