0:00:24.938,0:00:26.805 Normally, I don't do public work, 0:00:26.805,0:00:29.238 I don't do commissions. 0:00:30.071,0:00:32.604 You know, the library is the National Library 0:00:32.604,0:00:35.354 So it was like a major project. 0:00:36.104,0:00:38.004 So they approached me, but I told them, 0:00:38.004,0:00:40.904 "If I have an idea I like, I will do it." 0:00:40.904,0:00:44.104 So when the building was ready, I had a couple of ideas, 0:00:44.104,0:00:49.255 And one of these ideas was to have this skeleton of a whale in the center. 0:00:49.421,0:00:52.122 Somehow, it was like an image, more than an idea. 0:00:52.122,0:00:55.321 But it came to me like a very clear image 0:00:55.321,0:01:01.104 Of this floating whale in the center of the bookshelves in the library. 0:01:05.538,0:01:08.838 When I am dealing with a ready-made object 0:01:08.838,0:01:11.205 Or something from reality, 0:01:11.205,0:01:15.138 I try to understand the logic of the object, 0:01:15.138,0:01:17.288 How it works. 0:01:19.738,0:01:25.071 So I took some joints in the different centers of movement of the whale, 0:01:25.071,0:01:28.171 And from those points, I start to draw circles. 0:01:28.171,0:01:30.255 They're like rings, 0:01:30.554,0:01:32.754 And those rings intersect, 0:01:32.754,0:01:35.838 So you have different points in the body. 0:01:36.822,0:01:39.372 So, from the different centers of the skeleton, 0:01:39.372,0:01:41.789 I was drawing rings expanding, 0:01:41.789,0:01:43.838 And they were touching in different ways, 0:01:43.838,0:01:45.321 Surprising ways, 0:01:45.321,0:01:48.505 Until it was really huge rings. 0:01:54.872,0:02:00.088 At the end was a lot labor to fill it with graphite. 0:02:02.164,0:02:04.921 And I like the graphite because its lead 0:02:04.921,0:02:09.521 Has certain qualities that is not like painting on the bone, 0:02:09.521,0:02:11.804 It's more like dust. 0:02:12.538,0:02:16.654 I always liked the idea of this dark mineral 0:02:16.654,0:02:19.238 Against the whiteness of the bone, 0:02:19.238,0:02:22.604 How they contrast. 0:02:25.104,0:02:29.248 If you think, in my work, as a way of taking from reality 0:02:29.248,0:02:33.463 And then extracting something, and then revealing just one central part, 0:02:33.463,0:02:35.914 Or the part that I'm interested in. 0:02:35.914,0:02:38.481 It's a kind of collage. 0:02:40.447,0:02:43.781 Getting involved with that, and remaking the structure again. 0:02:43.781,0:02:46.481 So it still is what it is originally, 0:02:46.481,0:02:49.248 But then is revealed in a different way. 0:03:02.799,0:03:05.633 I mean, I know that when you do something like this 0:03:05.633,0:03:08.097 In a big building like that one, 0:03:08.097,0:03:11.814 The symbolism and the mythology starts to play a factor, 0:03:11.814,0:03:18.797 And humanity has a lot of legendary tales and stories 0:03:18.797,0:03:21.881 And mythologies in relation with the whale. 0:03:23.598,0:03:26.331 On the other hand, normally in a building like this, 0:03:26.331,0:03:30.915 You will do an eagle or something symbolic about Mexico or something like that, 0:03:30.915,0:03:34.014 That they love to do in the old times, you know? 0:03:34.014,0:03:37.029 But I think now, being more about knowledge, 0:03:37.029,0:03:41.714 and also the building has an ecological side. 0:03:42.382,0:03:45.813 But I think that all that is in the work 0:03:45.813,0:03:48.399 Without me saying anything. 0:03:54.398,0:03:58.814 I think for me, what is important is the translation 0:03:58.814,0:04:02.930 From real experience. 0:04:03.198,0:04:06.748 But then how you translate that experience into a sign, 0:04:06.748,0:04:09.015 into a language, into art, 0:04:09.015,0:04:15.450 That you can communicate your discoveries to other people.