WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.754 [static skipping] 00:00:01.754 --> 00:00:03.199 (Audience cheering and applauding) 00:00:03.199 --> 00:00:04.298 Welcome Back. 00:00:04.298 --> 00:00:06.507 For more on the gun debate, 00:00:06.507 --> 00:00:08.280 we bring you the first part of the 3 part 00:00:08.280 --> 00:00:09.877 series with John Oliver. 00:00:09.877 --> 00:00:12.439 (John Oliver) [British accent] Yesterday, Americans watched in shock 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:16.772 as even watered down gun legislation died on the floor of the Senate 00:00:16.772 --> 00:00:20.855 but that is exactly where it belongs according to gun lobbyists like 00:00:20.855 --> 00:00:24.519 Philip Van Cleave of the Virginia Citizens Defence League. 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:27.360 The Second Amendment, we-we-you know, is-is sacrosanct. 00:00:27.360 --> 00:00:30.498 You hold up this sign whenever I make a suggestion that you think 00:00:30.498 --> 00:00:31.676 is infringing upon your NOTE Paragraph 00:00:31.676 --> 00:00:33.286 Second Amendment rights, ok? 00:00:33.286 --> 00:00:34.013 Ok. 00:00:34.013 --> 00:00:37.794 Assault weapons ban. Boom there it is. 00:00:37.794 --> 00:00:39.804 Increased background checks. 00:00:40.294 --> 00:00:41.018 (John Oliver) Really? 00:00:41.018 --> 00:00:41.402 (Philip) Yes. 00:00:41.402 --> 00:00:42.936 (John Oliver) Just for-just for background checks? 00:00:42.936 --> 00:00:45.922 (Philip) We don't do background checks for the First Amendment. 00:00:45.922 --> 00:00:47.478 (John Oliver) Okay, so let's just try this one. 00:00:47.478 --> 00:00:47.975 (Philip) Ok. 00:00:47.975 --> 00:00:48.716 (John Oliver) Nice and easy. 00:00:48.716 --> 00:00:49.577 (Philip) Sure. 00:00:49.577 --> 00:00:53.799 A mandatory 1 hour waiting period if you buy a gun. 00:00:55.189 --> 00:00:56.284 (Philip) Why-why a mandatory... 00:00:56.284 --> 00:00:58.019 (John Oliver) Philip, are you [beep] kidding me? 00:00:58.019 --> 00:00:58.644 [Laughter] 00:00:58.644 --> 00:01:00.951 (Philip) Okay, unless I can see a reason - No. 00:01:00.951 --> 00:01:03.411 I can't think of anything that I support 00:01:03.411 --> 00:01:05.454 because at the end of the day none of it works. 00:01:05.454 --> 00:01:09.054 (John Oliver) Exactly, gun control does not work. 00:01:09.054 --> 00:01:12.037 What if - hypothetically speaking - 00:01:12.037 --> 00:01:14.396 what if gun control could work? 00:01:14.396 --> 00:01:15.815 Which obviously it can't. 00:01:15.815 --> 00:01:19.144 So we know that it won't so that's not a problem but what if it could, 00:01:19.144 --> 00:01:21.111 due to that time that it did? 00:01:21.111 --> 00:01:21.658 [laughter] 00:01:21.658 --> 00:01:23.336 (Philip) Ok when-d-when was that? 00:01:23.336 --> 00:01:24.217 Australia. 00:01:24.217 --> 00:01:24.714 (Music) 00:01:24.714 --> 00:01:25.889 Yes, Australia. 00:01:25.889 --> 00:01:29.804 In 1996 a conservative Prime Minister John Howard, 00:01:29.804 --> 00:01:32.135 instituted sweeping gun control laws 00:01:32.135 --> 00:01:34.876 following a mass shooting that shocked the nation. 00:01:34.876 --> 00:01:38.197 So should we be learning from this effective example? 00:01:38.197 --> 00:01:39.729 (Scoffs) Of course not. 00:01:39.729 --> 00:01:41.765 I-I guess if we're going to go to Planet X 00:01:41.765 --> 00:01:45.244 and say it's not the United States - it's on some other planet, different people, 00:01:45.244 --> 00:01:46.125 different everything, 00:01:46.125 --> 00:01:46.555 [Laughter] 00:01:46.555 --> 00:01:49.185 I don't know - yeah-yeah, it-it wou- 00:01:49.185 --> 00:01:50.971 But in the real world with human beings 00:01:50.971 --> 00:01:53.257 it's not going to work and gun control isn't going to work. 00:01:53.257 --> 00:01:56.804 Unfortunately, not only is Australia actually in the real world, 00:01:56.804 --> 00:01:59.246 even their animals can holster weapons. 00:01:59.246 --> 00:02:00.138 [laughter] 00:02:00.138 --> 00:02:02.380 So who was right about gun control? 00:02:02.380 --> 00:02:04.668 There was only one way to find out, 00:02:04.668 --> 00:02:07.158 confront the man responsible. 00:02:07.158 --> 00:02:10.086 (John Oliver) Mr Prime Minister, let's begin in the formal Australian way, 00:02:10.406 --> 00:02:11.234 G'day 00:02:11.234 --> 00:02:12.112 [audience laughter] 00:02:12.112 --> 00:02:13.912 (John Howard) [Australian accent] How are you-how do you do? 00:02:13.912 --> 00:02:18.434 Obviously gun control doesn't work, it can't work, it will never work. 00:02:18.434 --> 00:02:20.263 So how was your scheme a failure? 00:02:20.753 --> 00:02:21.642 [audience laughter] 00:02:21.642 --> 00:02:23.313 Well my scheme was not a failure. 00:02:23.313 --> 00:02:26.924 We had a massacre at a place called Port Arthur 17 years ago 00:02:26.924 --> 00:02:29.359 and there have been none, uh, since. 00:02:29.359 --> 00:02:34.339 (John Oliver) Zero gun massacres? Hold on, did gun control actually work? 00:02:34.489 --> 00:02:38.049 (Philip) It stopped one thing. That could also be a statistical anomoly. 00:02:38.049 --> 00:02:41.810 Yeah, it was just their mass shootings disappeared. 00:02:41.810 --> 00:02:44.084 But there were so few of them, whoop-de-do! 00:02:44.084 --> 00:02:45.316 Whoop-de-doo? 00:02:45.316 --> 00:02:46.728 Yes. 00:02:46.728 --> 00:02:47.972 (John Oliver) Whoop-de-doo? 00:02:47.972 --> 00:02:50.196 Yes, mass shooting are rare anyhow. 00:02:50.196 --> 00:02:51.498 (John Oliver) [proud music plays] Exactly. 00:02:51.498 --> 00:02:54.920 They probably barely had a massacre before 1996. 00:02:54.920 --> 00:02:57.964 (John Howard) There was about 13 in the previous 18 years. 00:02:57.964 --> 00:02:59.949 (John Oliver) In the 18 years before 00:02:59.949 --> 00:03:02.664 Port Arthur there were 13 mass shootings. 00:03:02.664 --> 00:03:03.601 (Philip) Yes 00:03:03.601 --> 00:03:04.713 Almost one a year. 00:03:04.713 --> 00:03:06.947 Yes, I was unaware they had that many. 00:03:06.947 --> 00:03:07.872 Mass being what? 00:03:07.872 --> 00:03:09.127 More than two people at a time? 00:03:09.127 --> 00:03:10.114 (John Oliver) More than four. 00:03:10.114 --> 00:03:11.457 (Philip) More than four, ok. 00:03:11.457 --> 00:03:12.773 Whoop-de-doo. 00:03:12.773 --> 00:03:16.269 (John Oliver) But perhaps there were other non-whoop-de-doo side effects. 00:03:16.269 --> 00:03:20.901 The homocide rate, uh, involving the use of guns has 00:03:20.901 --> 00:03:25.390 declined significantly by factors of up to 50 and 60% 00:03:25.390 --> 00:03:30.646 and the incidence of youth suicides involving guns has declined dramatically. 00:03:31.236 --> 00:03:33.003 Whoop-de-f*(beep)-do. 00:03:33.003 --> 00:03:33.639 [Audience laughter] 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:35.195 Help me out here, Philip. 00:03:35.195 --> 00:03:37.092 Homocides with guns went down, 00:03:37.092 --> 00:03:39.023 suicide with guns also went down. 00:03:39.023 --> 00:03:40.484 Zero mass shootings. 00:03:40.484 --> 00:03:45.127 Well-we-well, Australia still has murders, rapes and robberies last I checked. 00:03:45.127 --> 00:03:48.228 Unless you can get rid of 100% of crime, 00:03:48.228 --> 00:03:50.098 it's not worth doing at all. 00:03:50.098 --> 00:03:51.161 Well put it this way, 00:03:51.161 --> 00:03:54.054 it's illegal to have crack cocaine anywhere in the United States. 00:03:54.054 --> 00:03:55.729 Do you think if somebody really wants it, 00:03:55.729 --> 00:03:58.037 they could get their hands on crack cocaine in America? 00:03:58.057 --> 00:04:00.917 So unless we can completely get rid of drugs, 00:04:00.917 --> 00:04:03.394 there's no point in having drug laws at all? 00:04:03.394 --> 00:04:05.101 [Audience laughter] 00:04:05.101 --> 00:04:10.694 [sighs] Let me think about that for a minute, umm. 00:04:10.694 --> 00:04:12.937 [audience applause and laughter] 00:04:12.937 --> 00:04:16.633 Well, I guess, effectively it doesn't work. 00:04:16.633 --> 00:04:17.379 [proud music playing] 00:04:17.379 --> 00:04:19.145 (John Oliver) You can't argue with Phillip, 00:04:19.145 --> 00:04:21.470 even his logic is bullet proof. 00:04:21.470 --> 00:04:23.302 Well lemme-lemme put it to you this way, 00:04:23.302 --> 00:04:27.039 there are more drownings in backyards where they have pools, 00:04:27.039 --> 00:04:30.265 if the don't have a pool there are no drownings in backyards, okay. 00:04:30.265 --> 00:04:35.801 So the U.S. has a very high number of guns therefore there's going to be 00:04:35.941 --> 00:04:39.561 more chances for somebody to be killed with a gun. 00:04:39.561 --> 00:04:40.816 (John Oliver) Right. 00:04:40.816 --> 00:04:41.671 [audience laughter] 00:04:41.671 --> 00:04:42.987 (Philip) Right. 00:04:42.987 --> 00:04:44.134 (John Oliver) Right. 00:04:44.134 --> 00:04:45.561 [Audience laughter] 00:04:45.561 --> 00:04:47.379 Thats MY point. 00:04:47.379 --> 00:04:48.169 [Land Down Under by Men At Work] 00:04:48.169 --> 00:04:52.199 Philip might think that living in a society with dramatically reduced gun violence 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:56.310 is a whoop-de-doo and people in Australia couldn't agree with him more 00:04:56.310 --> 00:04:57.676 (male speaker 1) [Australian accent] Whoop-de-doo. 00:04:57.676 --> 00:04:58.574 (male speaker 2) [Australian accent] Whoop-de-doo, mate. 00:04:58.574 --> 00:05:00.172 (female speakers, in unison) [Australian accents] Whoop-de-do! 00:05:00.172 --> 00:05:02.960 (male speaker 3) [Australian accent] Whoop-de-do, well, whatever that means. 00:05:02.960 --> 00:05:05.642 WHOOP-DE-F*(beep)-D0!! Yeah! 00:05:05.642 --> 00:05:07.644 [audience cheering] [Land Down Under playing] 00:05:07.726 --> 00:05:09.134 John Oliver We'll be right back. 00:05:09.134 --> 00:05:12.264 [audience cheering and applause]