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I think every time the idea of failure comes

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I think artists are a little bit afraid,

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But I think it's a very healthy thing.

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There have been a couple of failures that allow me

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To realize what works and what doesn't work.

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Sometimes, in difficult spaces, I went with simple images,

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And maybe it required a much more complex image.

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When dealing with new works or different techniques

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It's bound to fail.

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But it is necessary--it's essential--for me

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To go into this state.

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It's like swimming in water full of sharks,

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Just going with it.

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You know, if you make it, fine,

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If it doesn't, it's okay,

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You're just joining in.

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I welcome when it happens, because I know

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I'm going to learn something from it,

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But I hate that after spending so many hours on something

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And you're attached to this idea that you thought was going to work,

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Then it ends up being a disaster.

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So, you get two sides.