[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.14,0:00:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Sounds of birds chirping] Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.34,0:00:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[New York Close Up] Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.62,0:00:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Fort Greene, Brooklyn] Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.58,0:00:16.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find that being able to work at home... Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.06,0:00:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I wake up in the morning, Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.72,0:00:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have breakfast, I start working. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.44,0:00:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it’s a very smooth transition Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.48,0:00:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directly into the work Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.61,0:00:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that comes from a quieter, Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.76,0:00:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more centered place. Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.68,0:00:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Louise Despont, Artist] Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.40,0:00:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Nicole Wong, Assistant] Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.18,0:01:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we’ll do white dots on these ones, Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.64,0:01:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up until you reach this small... Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.78,0:01:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stop before you reach this smallest one. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.30,0:01:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So stop on this one. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.46,0:01:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I like about making work this way Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.60,0:01:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that I don’t need to wait for an opportunity\Nto be given to me. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.32,0:01:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t have to apply for money to do this\Nidea Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.99,0:01:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I can do what I need to do Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.81,0:01:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what I want to do simply on paper. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.80,0:01:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that--that there’s no excuse not\Nto do the work, Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.97,0:01:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it’s so contained. Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.90,0:01:53.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be focused and dedicated to doing one simple\Nthing Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.57,0:01:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can perhaps be the most transformative thing. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.44,0:02:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That as narrow as it is, Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.18,0:02:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can be infinitely deep. Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.20,0:02:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Louise Despont Draws Deep"] Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.42,0:02:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We always associate drawing as being more\Npersonal-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.72,0:02:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being more intimate than painting. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.71,0:02:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, historically, drawings weren’t\Nshown, Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.21,0:02:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then when they were, they were shown as,\Nsort of, Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.73,0:02:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the private notebooks of so-and-so, Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.73,0:02:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the sketches from these very famous paintings. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.08,0:02:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was doing more oil painting before-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.79,0:02:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ten years ago-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.08,0:02:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then, suddenly you see it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.48,0:02:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you think it's all wrong Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.35,0:02:47.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you need to take a completely different\Npath. Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.87,0:02:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's when I started working in notebooks Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.67,0:02:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and doing a lot of collage-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.47,0:02:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there was just, you know, collecting\Nimages Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.63,0:02:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and taping them into the book. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.48,0:02:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To fill up a book felt nice, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.45,0:03:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It didn’t even have to be with anything\Ngood. Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.64,0:03:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was just nice to complete a book. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.88,0:03:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it’s also the nature of working\Nin a book. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.08,0:03:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s that the work is private, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.14,0:03:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you’re not making work for people to\Nsee. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.76,0:03:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you’re always imagining that\Nsomebody will look at it, Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.91,0:03:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then maybe you don’t let yourself make the\Nmistakes Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.70,0:03:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that need to be made on the way. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.56,0:03:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These ledger books, they’re mostly all for\Naccounting-- Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.48,0:03:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeping track of your expenses, Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.10,0:03:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of debts and accounts owed. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.90,0:03:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it’s a different way of accounting\Nfor time Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.95,0:03:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for a life spent. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.39,0:03:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It becomes the account of every day, Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.65,0:03:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I put into the drawing. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.07,0:03:59.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I started using the stencils, Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.75,0:04:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it completely changed how I drew. Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.02,0:04:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the first stencil I ever bought, Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.80,0:04:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is now all broken. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.42,0:04:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m really sad about it. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.36,0:04:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the triangles are the ones I use most. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.22,0:04:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Laying out the paper and seeing the dimensions Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.38,0:04:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can sometimes be the beginning of a drawing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.01,0:04:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You only have to make the first few marks Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.45,0:04:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the whole drawing will unravel itself Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.32,0:04:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in response to that, Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.72,0:04:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if you change completely what you thought\Nyou were starting at. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.76,0:04:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those few marks contain the seed of the entire\Ndrawing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.90,0:04:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s almost like the drawing guides itself, Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.06,0:05:00.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you’re there to do the weeding Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.59,0:05:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the watering and the planting. Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.80,0:05:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it will grow on it’s own, Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.42,0:05:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a certain extent. Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.94,0:05:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s nice to look at something Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.60,0:05:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and feel some sort of awe for it, Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.79,0:05:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you don’t fully own it Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.57,0:05:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that you worked for it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.76,0:05:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if it looks very controlled and detailed, Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.87,0:05:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like I own Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.33,0:05:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe one quarter of it at most. [LAUGHS] Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.94,0:05:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each drawing is a discovery-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.10,0:05:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tiny discoveries-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.28,0:05:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but each one unfolds in a way Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.16,0:05:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that removes the drawing from total control. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.66,0:05:58.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You’re responsible for your part, Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.17,0:06:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something else is responsible for the\Nother part, Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.35,0:06:05.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which makes it very exciting. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.66,0:06:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a complexity that you can’t think\Nup. Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.94,0:06:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s like little mineral deposits build\Nup Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.76,0:06:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make an entire surface. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.58,0:06:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's expressive on an energetic level, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.06,0:06:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least that's what I hope. Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.60,0:06:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the work accesses something Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.02,0:06:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to me that feels very universal. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.80,0:06:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s something so personal and raw and\Nunconcrete Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.93,0:06:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about your relationship to the spiritual, Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.78,0:06:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my words will always be this clumsy approximation Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.86,0:06:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of something that I feel I'm beginning to\Ntouch Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.22,0:06:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a symbolic language. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.82,0:06:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel it’s best explained in the drawings. Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.38,0:07:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[White Mule, Chelsea] Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.16,0:07:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[DESPONT] And that’s the Japanese rice mulberry\Npaper? Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.46,0:07:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ANNE GIBBS] Mmm hmm. Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.30,0:07:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The paste that we use is a rice paste, Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.96,0:07:29.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it’s water soluble. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.85,0:07:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can easily be taken off with just a little... Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.53,0:07:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Anne Gibbs, Framer] Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.90,0:07:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, humidifying it a little. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.26,0:07:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[DESPONT] And then, Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.89,0:07:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I have to make the final step from taking\Nthe drawing to the framer, Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.56,0:08:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take a last look at it Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.61,0:08:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I know it’s the last time to make\Nchanges. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.53,0:08:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I look at the drawing Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.31,0:08:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can see areas that aren’t fully connected Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.34,0:08:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or fully resolved. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.14,0:08:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those are all openings Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.34,0:08:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to add something. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.64,0:08:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then when it’s done, it’s like, Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.75,0:08:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Don’t touch me!" Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.99,0:08:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, there’s no entry point anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.96,0:08:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's... Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.90,0:08:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that always feels very clear.