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(Introduzione) Sotto l'informazione:
Adrien Delgrange

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(AD) Distinguere il vero dal falso,
tutte le settimane su RFI.

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Benvenuti a
"Sotto l'informazione"

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che vede all'ordine 
di questo 25 febbraio

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RFI - informazione e 
disinformazione in tempi di guerra.

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Dopo l'invasione militare dell'Ucraina
da parte della Russia nelle ultime 48 ore,

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parleremo del ruolo cruciale
della disinformazione

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nella propaganda russa, una così detta 
arma di soft power,

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utilizzata da diversi anni dal Cremlino
per plasmare l'opinione pubblica russa.

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In questo contesto rifletteremo
anche sul lavoro

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dei giornalisti indipendenti in Russia.

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Questi gli argomenti in sintesi;
benvenuti.

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Sotto l'informazione, diretto
da Claude Battista.

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Musica

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(AD) Sotto l'informazione oggi
si focalizza su ciò che accade in Ucraina

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dopo l'invasione russa e a tal proposito
accogliamo Sophie Malibeaux; buonasera!

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(SM) Buonasera.

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e Grégory Genevrier:buonasera!
(GG)Buonasera.

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(AD) Mentre le truppe russe
avanzano sul territorio,

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la disinformazione gioca un ruolo 
importante nel conflitto.

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Mosca, che ha usato quest'arma
in aggiunta alla difesa militare

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-- e oggi ci spiegate la
strategia informativa russa --

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Sophie Malibeaux, qual'è 
il metodo Putin?

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(SM)Beh, in queste ultime settimane
si è visto come il presidente russo

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si sia impegnato a invertire i ruoli 
facendo passare aggredito per aggressore.

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Nei suoi ultimi comunicati,
Vladimir Putin si presenta

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come liberatore dell'Ucraina
e non solamente

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delle province separatiste del Donbass,
soprattutto quando questo mercoledì

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ha confermato la volontà "di proteggere
il popolo che soffre" secondo lui

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"di abusi e genocidio causati
dal regime di Kiev."

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Allora, senza negare l'importanza delle
vittime del conflitte nell'Est Ucraina,

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la narrativa del genocidio non si basa
su alcuna prova:

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e neppure l'idea di una giunta
alla guida dell'Ucraina,

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come menzionato dall'ambasciatore
russo all'ONU,

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visto che il presidente ucraino 
Volodymyr Zelenskyy

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è stato eletto democraticamente,
senza l'ombra di un colpo di Stato.

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E poi, quando Vladimir Putin evoca
la "denazificazione" dell'Ucraina,

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si ritorna ad un registro che non ha
niente a che vedere con la realtà.

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Che in Ucraina ci possano essere
dei gruppi estremisti

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come nel resto d'Europa,

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non vuol dire che ne sia soggiogata,
è tutta un'invenzione.

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(AD)Grégory Genevrier, per sostenere
la tesi

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di una Russia aggredita dall'Ucraina,

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circolano molte informazioni 
anche sui canali social.

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(GG) Sì, ci sono per esempio i così 
detti attacchi sotto falsa bandiera;

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in questo caso sono video
diffusi sui canali social

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che mostrano le violenze
perpetrate dagli Ucraini,

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ma che in realtà sono 
delle messe in scena:

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ad esempio il video dove si vedono 
militari avanzare sul terreno

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con i blindati: la didascalia li indica
come soldati ucraini

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che sono illegalmente 
sul territorio russo

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non lontano da Mitiatinskaya(?)
ma in realtà la scena si svolge

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180 km più a sud,

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vale a dire una zona controllata
dai separatisti filo-russi; inoltre

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il veicolo utilizzato non corrisponde
a quelli dell'esercito ucraino;

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fatti riportati grazie alle ricerche
di esperti open source,

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come il collettivo Bellingcat.

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E questa disinformazione a volte è
ancora più grossolana:

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un altro video mostra la carcassa di un
mezzo civile che sembrerebbe distrutto

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