1 00:00:00,340 --> 00:00:02,320 Look, I love you all so much 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,820 that after almost a year recording here on the YouTube channel, 3 00:00:05,820 --> 00:00:07,280 I started studying again. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,204 I have never made Pan de Jamón. 5 00:00:09,204 --> 00:00:11,209 Pan de Jamón (Traditional Venezuelan Ham Bread) 6 00:00:11,209 --> 00:00:13,381 So I started to study how to make Pan de Jamón 7 00:00:13,381 --> 00:00:16,408 because that's what I'm going to teach you today. 8 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:19,976 COOK 9 00:00:19,976 --> 00:00:20,908 SUBSCRIBE 10 00:00:20,908 --> 00:00:21,747 SHARE 11 00:00:22,378 --> 00:00:26,298 COOK, SUBSCRIBE, SHARE 12 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:30,186 ... the dough begins to homogenize. 13 00:00:30,186 --> 00:00:32,227 In case it is watery, you use ... 14 00:00:32,227 --> 00:00:36,440 That is the voice of Claudio Nazoa. 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,530 Claudio Nazoa is my uncle, my dad's brother. 16 00:00:38,530 --> 00:00:42,380 But besides that, he is famous in Venezuela, my country, 17 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:45,000 for his recipe, precisely of Pan de Jamón. 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,160 I called Claudio to explain me the recipe and he sent me a number of instructions 19 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:51,710 and it has been a real pleasure, 20 00:00:51,710 --> 00:00:54,410 and hopefully, at some point, I will be with Claudio 21 00:00:54,410 --> 00:00:57,720 and we can make together his famous Pan de Jamón. 22 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,420 Today's recipe is his recipe 23 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:04,110 with all the details just as he explained it to us. 24 00:01:04,110 --> 00:01:06,689 As I told you, I had never made Pan de Jamón, 25 00:01:06,689 --> 00:01:09,840 sometimes, I helped my dad, but the truth is I'm not a baker, 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,289 so I'm going to get help from someone who knows a lot about bread making, 27 00:01:13,289 --> 00:01:17,348 the chef of Sumo Gusto, my place here in Chile. 28 00:01:17,348 --> 00:01:20,509 His name is Pedro Castillo and he's very good at bread making. 29 00:01:20,509 --> 00:01:23,973 Let me call him... Pedro! Can you come here, Pedro? 30 00:01:23,973 --> 00:01:27,530 - Hey, Pedro... - Yes, what did I break? (laughs) 31 00:01:27,530 --> 00:01:30,099 Do you mind being on television? 32 00:01:30,099 --> 00:01:31,773 - No, not at all. - Great. 33 00:01:31,773 --> 00:01:34,180 This is Pedro Castillo. 34 00:01:34,180 --> 00:01:37,247 Pedro is a very good baker and he knows a lot about bread making. 35 00:01:37,247 --> 00:01:40,885 Pedro, I'm going to try to make Pan de Jamón 36 00:01:40,885 --> 00:01:43,394 but if I screw up, you can give me a hand. 37 00:01:43,394 --> 00:01:44,310 Yes, of course. 38 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:46,469 I'm going to ask Pedro to stay here 39 00:01:46,469 --> 00:01:48,759 but I want to clarify something which is very important. 40 00:01:48,759 --> 00:01:51,520 These programs remain for eternity, 41 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,450 but at this moment we are recording it in a period of global pandemic 42 00:01:54,450 --> 00:01:58,579 where are we both supposed to wear, if we are together, a mask. 43 00:01:58,579 --> 00:02:03,670 Here, we are always wearing masks, hats, and following all sanitary measures. 44 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:05,734 But we are recording for you, 45 00:02:05,734 --> 00:02:09,530 and to be recording a program wearing a mask, it's impossible. 46 00:02:09,530 --> 00:02:13,556 I can assure you that none of us at this moment has any problem. 47 00:02:13,556 --> 00:02:14,884 So, please forgive me, 48 00:02:14,884 --> 00:02:16,769 but I'm going to ask Pedro to take off his mask 49 00:02:16,769 --> 00:02:18,379 because we are recording a TV program 50 00:02:18,379 --> 00:02:21,409 and this program is not only for this period of pandemic, 51 00:02:21,409 --> 00:02:24,890 but for eternity, so that everyone, including your children and grandchildren, 52 00:02:24,890 --> 00:02:26,550 can also learn how to make Pan de Jamón. 53 00:02:26,550 --> 00:02:29,855 Pedro, this is the first time I'm going to say something that I've never allowed-- 54 00:02:29,855 --> 00:02:31,522 Well, chef, if this is my first time on television, 55 00:02:31,522 --> 00:02:32,709 they should at least see me. 56 00:02:32,709 --> 00:02:34,719 Greetings to the people of Cumaná who are watching. 57 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:38,460 Look, Pedro, I'm going to lean on you because I'm nervous, okay? 58 00:02:38,460 --> 00:02:40,840 The amounts for the recipe, 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,319 which I have them here as a reminder, 60 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:45,670 you also have them. 61 00:02:45,670 --> 00:02:49,131 The quantities showing on the Youtube channel 62 00:02:49,131 --> 00:02:50,932 -- when you hit the little arrow -- 63 00:02:50,932 --> 00:02:52,949 they are two times the amounts that I've got here. 64 00:02:52,949 --> 00:02:55,718 I mean, you have a recipe there for 1.5 kilograms of flour 65 00:02:55,718 --> 00:02:58,760 and I have a recipe here for 750 grams of wheat flour. 66 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,349 What's the first thing that Claudio explained to me? 67 00:03:01,349 --> 00:03:03,819 That you'll have yeast, 68 00:03:03,819 --> 00:03:06,390 and this yeast needs to be activated with a little bit of water 69 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:09,739 and, as it's commonly done when baking, you add a little bit of sugar. 70 00:03:09,739 --> 00:03:11,360 - Right? - That's correct. 71 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,217 If the yeast is good, 72 00:03:14,217 --> 00:03:17,100 it'll do its job, even if you don't activate it, 73 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:21,370 I mean, if you add yeast to a dough this will just do its job, 74 00:03:21,370 --> 00:03:24,179 like consuming all the existing carbohydrates, 75 00:03:24,179 --> 00:03:28,209 produce air and the whole process of fermentation that is generated. 76 00:03:28,209 --> 00:03:32,580 The reason why we add a little warm water to a yeast 77 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:36,089 to activate it, which is what I'm doing, 78 00:03:36,089 --> 00:03:39,471 it is fundamentally to see if there is indeed activity. 79 00:03:39,471 --> 00:03:43,450 We add the yeast to the water, wait a while, 80 00:03:43,450 --> 00:03:45,219 and if we start to see a foam, 81 00:03:45,219 --> 00:03:47,469 then we can say that the yeast is good. 82 00:03:47,469 --> 00:03:51,439 What would be terrible is that when we're making bread, 83 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:52,470 we add the yeast, 84 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:53,719 the yeast was dead, 85 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:55,840 and we do not understand why the bread didn't rise. 86 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,624 This yeast proofing is what tells us that we're on the right track. 87 00:03:59,624 --> 00:04:01,809 Correct me, if I'm not on the right track-- 88 00:04:01,809 --> 00:04:06,229 You can even use some of the sugar to activate it faster... 89 00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:08,969 If Pedro is saying it, we'll add a little bit of sugar. 90 00:04:08,969 --> 00:04:10,950 Remember that yeast 91 00:04:10,950 --> 00:04:14,890 is an organism that needs to be fed, 92 00:04:14,890 --> 00:04:18,359 and it feeds on sugars, the sugars that are in wheat flour. 93 00:04:18,359 --> 00:04:20,329 If you give it a little bit of sugar, 94 00:04:20,329 --> 00:04:22,282 you are giving the yeast some food, 95 00:04:22,282 --> 00:04:24,241 and if you give it at a good temperature 96 00:04:24,241 --> 00:04:26,970 -- anything over 20-25 degrees Celsius -- 97 00:04:26,970 --> 00:04:30,410 you have all the conditions for the yeast to begin to activate. 98 00:04:30,410 --> 00:04:31,810 - Right? - That's right. 99 00:04:31,810 --> 00:04:36,477 Claudio says we should make his recipe -- I am respecting his recipe -- 100 00:04:36,477 --> 00:04:37,800 with warm milk. 101 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,750 While it's warming up, I have here, as I told you before, 102 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:46,949 half of what is in the original recipe that Claudio sent me. 103 00:04:46,949 --> 00:04:48,252 We add the flour... 104 00:04:48,252 --> 00:04:51,800 He told me that it's important to shape it like a little volcano 105 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,759 -- he's referring to the table where we'll work the dough -- 106 00:04:54,759 --> 00:05:00,506 so with my flour shaped like a volcano, we add the milk... 107 00:05:01,819 --> 00:05:05,810 - Is this sugar ...? - Yes, yes, it's all measured. 108 00:05:05,810 --> 00:05:08,020 This recipe uses a lot of sugar. 109 00:05:08,020 --> 00:05:10,954 It's slightly sweet, so the bread is extraordinary. 110 00:05:10,954 --> 00:05:12,860 Yeah, quite a lot. 111 00:05:12,860 --> 00:05:15,470 And, the salt. 112 00:05:15,470 --> 00:05:19,840 I'm following the steps exactly as Claudio explained them in the audio. 113 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,789 Okay, my dear Pedro, tell me here. 114 00:05:21,789 --> 00:05:23,100 What do we add first? 115 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:26,030 Yeast, milk with sugar, or the egg? 116 00:05:26,030 --> 00:05:30,949 You can place them here or we can beat the eggs in the milk. 117 00:05:30,949 --> 00:05:33,490 - The egg in beaten with the milk? - Yes. 118 00:05:33,490 --> 00:05:35,760 Because they are all liquid and then the dry... 119 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,220 I follow what you're telling me. 120 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:42,022 Here I have milk, sugar, salt... The whole egg, including the white? 121 00:05:42,022 --> 00:05:45,250 - That's right. - A whole egg. 122 00:05:45,250 --> 00:05:49,789 They are approximately 80 grams of egg. 123 00:05:49,789 --> 00:05:52,563 Okay. And sugar? 124 00:05:52,563 --> 00:05:55,810 Sugar, 125 grams, and 5 grams of salt. 125 00:05:55,810 --> 00:05:57,580 Okay, this is clear. 126 00:05:57,580 --> 00:05:59,317 There we have it. 127 00:05:59,317 --> 00:06:03,000 Come closer and take a look at how this is already foaming. 128 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,430 You can see it clearly and it happened during this time. 129 00:06:06,430 --> 00:06:09,898 That foam that's being formed on the yeast 130 00:06:09,898 --> 00:06:12,830 is telling us that there's activity and the gas is coming out. 131 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:16,789 This just tells me that the yeast is good and alive, 132 00:06:16,789 --> 00:06:19,600 and this is the reason why we do this initial test. 133 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,630 Once done that, we have the flour here. 134 00:06:22,630 --> 00:06:24,080 - Do we just add it all? - Yes. 135 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,460 We incorporate the milk and the egg to the flour... 136 00:06:26,460 --> 00:06:27,710 - Everything? - Everything. 137 00:06:27,710 --> 00:06:29,460 - For sure? - For sure. 138 00:06:29,460 --> 00:06:30,800 Okay. 139 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,600 You can call a friend but your friend is already here. 140 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,346 - And this one also the whole thing? - Yes. 141 00:06:35,346 --> 00:06:37,436 - Okay, like this? - That's right. 142 00:06:37,436 --> 00:06:40,909 It is very important because, then, we are going to integrate the butter 143 00:06:40,909 --> 00:06:44,990 once you have a uniform and homogeneous dough. 144 00:06:44,990 --> 00:06:49,199 Yes, in fact, Claudio insisted a lot that I make the dough first 145 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:51,262 - and then add the butter. - That's right. 146 00:06:51,262 --> 00:06:54,106 He told me that if I added butter at the beginning, 147 00:06:54,106 --> 00:06:55,922 to this mix, 148 00:06:55,922 --> 00:06:57,919 the dough wouldn't proof the way it should. 149 00:06:57,919 --> 00:06:59,689 That it is important to add it later. 150 00:06:59,689 --> 00:07:04,769 The recipe indicates that we keep 250 grams of flour separately, 151 00:07:04,769 --> 00:07:09,106 so that if the dough is still wet, we can add a little bit more flour. 152 00:07:09,106 --> 00:07:11,300 Okay, here we're forming our dough. 153 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:12,589 What's happening here? 154 00:07:12,589 --> 00:07:16,800 I'm making a classical dough with the required humidity 155 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,110 -- from the milk and the egg -- 156 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:24,150 and once you've made the dough, 157 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:25,409 there is yeast, 158 00:07:25,409 --> 00:07:30,390 and that yeast begins to feed, to feed on the flour, 159 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:34,900 and it starts to do its job, which is to produce alcohol, 160 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:36,828 that alcohol will disappear during baking, and gas. 161 00:07:36,828 --> 00:07:43,062 Therefore, the goal is to trap these bubbles within the dough 162 00:07:43,062 --> 00:07:44,774 and, this way, the dough will rise. 163 00:07:45,414 --> 00:07:47,820 ♪ (music) ♪ 164 00:07:53,015 --> 00:07:55,045 Tell me, Pedro, once we have this dough... 165 00:07:55,045 --> 00:07:59,760 Okay, let's remove this board so that we can start kneading it. 166 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,377 This is so cool, thanks to you, 167 00:08:01,377 --> 00:08:04,042 and the innumerable times that you requested this recipe, 168 00:08:04,042 --> 00:08:06,520 I'll end up learning also how to make Pan de Jamón. 169 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,539 Let's see how we do it. 170 00:08:09,539 --> 00:08:12,230 By the way, I will mention something important 171 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:14,009 that Claudio told me in the audio. 172 00:08:14,009 --> 00:08:15,300 This is not cheap, 173 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:17,720 this is actually quite an expensive recipe 174 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,230 and you must keep this in mind. 175 00:08:19,230 --> 00:08:21,500 Because this Pan de Jamón 176 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:26,560 must have a generous amount of olives, raisins, ham, smoked ham... 177 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:32,350 so this is clearly a recipe for the holidays, 178 00:08:32,350 --> 00:08:34,380 or for December, in our case. 179 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:35,357 Okay, my dear Pedro. 180 00:08:35,357 --> 00:08:39,770 We place it here, so that we can work it out. 181 00:08:39,770 --> 00:08:41,310 Here I start kneading. 182 00:08:41,310 --> 00:08:43,490 When do I incorporate the butter? 183 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:48,236 Okay, let me show you how to do the kneading. 184 00:08:48,236 --> 00:08:50,055 We work it this way. 185 00:08:52,540 --> 00:08:57,540 So that the dough relaxes and we can start incorporating... 186 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,350 (Sumito) Do I take like this pinch of butter and add it like that? 187 00:09:01,350 --> 00:09:02,110 (Pedro) Right. 188 00:09:02,110 --> 00:09:05,100 - (Pedro) Now, begin to knead. - (Sumito) Okay. You all saw it. 189 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:07,790 Claudio says you can also use margarine 190 00:09:07,790 --> 00:09:12,310 but he commented that if you're going to make all this effort, 191 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:15,130 it'll be better if you do it with a good butter 192 00:09:15,130 --> 00:09:17,780 because it gives it an incomparable taste. 193 00:09:17,780 --> 00:09:20,710 So I decided to get a very good butter to make this recipe... 194 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:23,650 which is very greasy because once I've incorporated all this butter... 195 00:09:23,650 --> 00:09:27,970 Gradually, the texture will start changing. 196 00:09:27,970 --> 00:09:29,810 Totally, look. 197 00:09:29,810 --> 00:09:33,513 Pedro, you told me something very important about the dough: 198 00:09:33,513 --> 00:09:35,635 That we shouldn't break it when kneading it 199 00:09:35,635 --> 00:09:38,221 or, otherwise, I'm breaking the gluten mesh that is forming 200 00:09:38,221 --> 00:09:40,610 and it will no longer rise or not as much as expected. 201 00:09:40,610 --> 00:09:43,260 There are two mistakes, please, help me here, 202 00:09:43,260 --> 00:09:46,390 - one is to insert your fingers... - or rip it. 203 00:09:46,390 --> 00:09:47,500 ... or rip it, exactly. 204 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:50,600 What you should do, literally, is massage it, 205 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,840 like I'm doing now, right? 206 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,620 Caress it, let yourself be carried away by the dough. 207 00:09:54,620 --> 00:09:55,590 Okay. (chuckles) 208 00:09:55,590 --> 00:10:00,470 But never rip it or make holes with the tips of your fingers. 209 00:10:00,470 --> 00:10:01,679 Pedro, tell me something, 210 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:08,115 how can you tell if you have kneaded enough, that this is ready? 211 00:10:08,115 --> 00:10:11,400 Chef, when you start feeling very tired, you still have a long way. 212 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,400 - Seriously? - Yes. 213 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,375 So, this one still has a long way to go? 214 00:10:14,375 --> 00:10:16,650 - A long way. - Oh, okay. 215 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:18,154 So I stay here. 216 00:10:18,314 --> 00:10:20,600 ♪ (music) ♪ 217 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,830 Obviously, when we're recording this type of program, 218 00:10:26,830 --> 00:10:30,850 there are times when we stop the cameras or, otherwise, it would be very boring, 219 00:10:30,850 --> 00:10:34,000 and then turn the cameras back on, and edit the footage. 220 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,230 I have been kneading this way, possibly 5-10 minutes, 221 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:40,480 5 or 10 minutes, 222 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,623 and this is far from resembling to another dough 223 00:10:43,623 --> 00:10:47,017 that Pedro made a while ago in order to continue with the recipe. 224 00:10:47,017 --> 00:10:49,228 Pedro, am I doing something wrong? 225 00:10:49,228 --> 00:10:51,120 I mean, because I'm feeling exhausted. 226 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,878 Of course. 227 00:10:51,878 --> 00:10:53,290 And this is still far from... 228 00:10:53,290 --> 00:10:55,690 If we're going to translate this to machine levels, 229 00:10:55,690 --> 00:10:58,610 you would be speed one and I would enter at speed two... 230 00:10:58,610 --> 00:11:00,930 - to make the dough... - Come and show me. 231 00:11:00,930 --> 00:11:02,831 (laughs) Okay, show me. 232 00:11:02,831 --> 00:11:05,296 Okay, we would start... 233 00:11:05,296 --> 00:11:08,214 When you begin to knead, 234 00:11:08,214 --> 00:11:13,468 you have to apply some force and movement. 235 00:11:13,468 --> 00:11:16,570 You have to dance with the dough. 236 00:11:16,570 --> 00:11:19,148 - And like that for half an hour? - Yes, chef. 237 00:11:19,148 --> 00:11:20,570 - At that speed? - Of course. 238 00:11:20,570 --> 00:11:24,260 Can't you see the size of...? (laughs) 239 00:11:24,260 --> 00:11:27,778 They fed me with mondongo soup-- (Traditional Venezuelan tripe soup) 240 00:11:27,778 --> 00:11:30,210 I have seen skinny bakers. 241 00:11:30,210 --> 00:11:32,217 Yeah, but I come from the East (of Venezuela), chef, 242 00:11:32,217 --> 00:11:37,490 fried fish, tripe soup, arepa of banana... 243 00:11:37,490 --> 00:11:41,580 They only fed you pizca andina. (Traditional soup from the Venezuelan Andes) 244 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:45,960 It still needs some work but you can see that the dough is already taking another-- 245 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,340 Yeah, it changed. 246 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:48,530 Yeah, indeed, it changed. 247 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:51,302 So we just have to keep kneading, kneading, and kneading... 248 00:11:51,302 --> 00:11:54,450 We have one here that Pedro did a little while ago. 249 00:11:54,450 --> 00:11:56,530 Bring it so we can see it. 250 00:11:56,530 --> 00:11:59,280 It's another dough, so that we can show it to you. 251 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:04,360 But, indeed, this is really happening, practically in real time, 252 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,830 and as he was saying, 253 00:12:05,830 --> 00:12:08,326 the texture of the dough has changed a lot, 254 00:12:08,326 --> 00:12:10,730 from the time we started kneading it this way. 255 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:13,390 - What a beauty. - This is a dough that has rested and-- 256 00:12:13,390 --> 00:12:15,540 But did this rise or not yet...? 257 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:20,070 No, this is the texture we want for us to start building... 258 00:12:20,070 --> 00:12:23,500 We can't knead this dough again 259 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:26,290 or we'll make it tigher. 260 00:12:26,290 --> 00:12:28,860 So, we got to this point after kneading it for a while. 261 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:31,790 there it is clear that this one is missing a good time hand 262 00:12:31,790 --> 00:12:35,119 You can see that this dough still needs a lot of work to be like this other one... 263 00:12:35,119 --> 00:12:37,010 What are we going to do with this dough? 264 00:12:37,010 --> 00:12:40,070 We divide it so we can start rolling and adding the filling. 265 00:12:40,070 --> 00:12:43,260 Is this one ready to be rolled or do you have to wait for it to rise? 266 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:47,450 No, we're going divide it, roll and add the filling. 267 00:12:47,450 --> 00:12:49,680 - Ah, so this dough has risen... - Yes. 268 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:51,460 Okay, let me explain something. 269 00:12:51,460 --> 00:12:55,040 This dough that I have here, after you finish kneading it, 270 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,270 you have to let it rest for 45 minutes according to uncle's instructions, 271 00:12:59,270 --> 00:13:02,140 so that, internally, it'll get air and rise. 272 00:13:02,140 --> 00:13:04,721 - This is the step that we have here. - That's right. 273 00:13:04,721 --> 00:13:08,110 Another point, you can't stretch and break the dough... 274 00:13:08,110 --> 00:13:11,290 - It has to be cut ... - That's why we have this ... 275 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:13,720 Okay, go ahead. 276 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,405 I'll stay here kneading again, again and again, 277 00:13:16,405 --> 00:13:18,040 until the desired texture is achieved. 278 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,750 but let's do one thing, while I keep kneading this, 279 00:13:20,750 --> 00:13:22,910 Pedro, to buy time and be able to explain it well, 280 00:13:22,910 --> 00:13:25,790 take the dough and roll it into a rectangle, 281 00:13:25,790 --> 00:13:29,990 so that we can show the rolling and the filling for a pan de jamón. 282 00:13:30,250 --> 00:13:32,410 ♪ (music) ♪ 283 00:13:36,496 --> 00:13:41,340 Pedro, I didn't think this was going to loosen up but it'll be manageable, 284 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:43,790 but yes, indeed, look how it gets, 285 00:13:43,790 --> 00:13:45,470 although you have knead it a lot. 286 00:13:45,470 --> 00:13:47,065 Ok, this 287 00:13:47,065 --> 00:13:49,150 -- also said by Claudio and other bakers -- 288 00:13:49,150 --> 00:13:50,340 needs to rest, 289 00:13:50,340 --> 00:13:54,693 and to avoid having a dry surface due to the dehydration, 290 00:13:54,693 --> 00:14:00,030 you cover it carefully with, for example, a plastic wrap, a kitchen cloth, etc. 291 00:14:00,030 --> 00:14:02,431 And this must be left to rest 292 00:14:02,431 --> 00:14:04,360 because it will depend of the room temperature, 293 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,590 until it duplicates its size. 294 00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:09,590 When this has already doubled in size is that you are ready for this process 295 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:12,490 that he had here at this moment, that was just the stretched 296 00:14:12,490 --> 00:14:15,190 - from the eastern rectangle, right? - That's right. 297 00:14:15,190 --> 00:14:18,130 Great, let's leave let this double in size, 298 00:14:18,130 --> 00:14:20,973 in fact, you know that in the audio, 299 00:14:20,973 --> 00:14:23,660 Claudio tells me that he, when this point comes, 300 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:27,830 after 15 minutes knead, and after 15 minutes, knead again, 301 00:14:27,830 --> 00:14:32,490 and then he leaves it 45 minutes to make it double the size. 302 00:14:32,490 --> 00:14:35,160 Let's see, I'm going to tell you something what Claudio told me ... 303 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,500 that it was very generous with ham, 304 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:40,110 that you could put any ham, 305 00:14:40,110 --> 00:14:42,110 but what if it was smoked ham, even better, 306 00:14:42,110 --> 00:14:46,230 and he told me literally don't wear it flat as if it were a little blanket, 307 00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:48,870 put it wrinkled, I guess it said that's like that ... 308 00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:50,250 - That's right. - It is right? 309 00:14:50,250 --> 00:14:52,840 Yes. That's why we call him an old fox. 310 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,960 He told me, when you do this, it looks like it had more ham. 311 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:56,900 That's right. 312 00:14:56,900 --> 00:15:00,477 Usually when you cut it, He says, "This is full of ham." 313 00:15:00,477 --> 00:15:03,228 So, we place here. 314 00:15:03,228 --> 00:15:04,751 - Here? -Yes. 315 00:15:04,751 --> 00:15:09,990 Okay, you know then, the ham is added wrinkled, not flat, 316 00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:14,320 that is, one's intuition is to place the ham like this ... 317 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,580 But no... 318 00:15:16,580 --> 00:15:18,625 It is like this ... 319 00:15:18,625 --> 00:15:21,260 We continue now with bacon, that I thought I was wearing more, 320 00:15:21,260 --> 00:15:23,860 - but he only talks about ... - three-diagonal, yes. 321 00:15:23,860 --> 00:15:26,512 Okay then I imagine which refers to one here ... 322 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:28,006 one here ... 323 00:15:28,490 --> 00:15:29,521 and one here. 324 00:15:29,870 --> 00:15:31,230 Three such strips diagonally. 325 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:34,420 Hey, I'm sure right now a lot of bakers are watching me, 326 00:15:34,420 --> 00:15:36,690 because this channel many people follow him, 327 00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:37,760 I apologize for the clumsiness 328 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,810 but i'm learning with you here too. 329 00:15:39,810 --> 00:15:42,090 The truth is that I'm enjoying I think more than all of you 330 00:15:42,090 --> 00:15:44,660 And also what is an honor to make the recipe ... 331 00:15:44,660 --> 00:15:48,020 Yeah okay, because, hey, right, because I have named my uncle Claudio a lot. 332 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:50,890 Claudio Nazoa is a very, very very, very, very well known in Venezuela, 333 00:15:50,890 --> 00:15:52,680 a humorist, a writer, 334 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,470 He was a playwright, puppeteer, 335 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:56,880 has been a character from the world of the arts, 336 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,580 of those intellectuals, let's go to put it like this, what is in my country. 337 00:16:00,580 --> 00:16:03,620 Has wonderful anecdotes with the ham bread in addition, 338 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:09,420 and if you do a search here on the canal, about a year ago, 339 00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:12,990 I just tell him an interview to Claudio Nazoa who was fabulous, 340 00:16:12,990 --> 00:16:15,130 so that they look for it, "Interview with Claudio Nazoa". 341 00:16:15,130 --> 00:16:16,316 Okay, we put it then ... 342 00:16:16,316 --> 00:16:18,300 Even, chef, one of the things more important 343 00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:20,840 is that he ordered to cut the olives on wheels 344 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,440 to place it that way. 345 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,552 Why is one of the things more important? 346 00:16:25,861 --> 00:16:27,783 Is it that there are people who put it on? 347 00:16:27,783 --> 00:16:28,791 Yes. 348 00:16:28,791 --> 00:16:30,830 Initially they are placed whole on the bread. 349 00:16:30,830 --> 00:16:32,860 Ah well, he says to put it on like this ... 350 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:33,840 And look how curious, 351 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,810 told me to grab the raisins and put them to marinate in red wine. 352 00:16:39,810 --> 00:16:42,270 So I did, of course, I am not going to put the liquid, 353 00:16:42,270 --> 00:16:45,740 they just hydrated themselves in red wine, those grapes ... 354 00:16:45,740 --> 00:16:48,270 and I'm also going to add raisins marinated in red wine. 355 00:16:48,270 --> 00:16:50,540 And you told me, Pedro, when I told you about the recipe, 356 00:16:50,540 --> 00:16:51,640 that was a very good idea, 357 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,670 I mean, what have you done also like that ever? 358 00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:56,067 Yes, several times we have done it too. 359 00:16:56,067 --> 00:16:56,874 Okay, there it is. 360 00:16:57,776 --> 00:16:59,616 ♪ (music) ♪ 361 00:17:02,510 --> 00:17:05,360 It helps me, Pedro, that is, don't help me, he tells me. (laughs) 362 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:09,679 - First round here, up to here? - That's right. 363 00:17:10,579 --> 00:17:13,709 Why does my uncle talk to me two more turns? 364 00:17:13,709 --> 00:17:15,230 Are these two more laps? 365 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:17,249 Here we do a little pressure ... 366 00:17:17,249 --> 00:17:19,509 - Pressure is applied and ... - We keep folding. 367 00:17:19,509 --> 00:17:21,666 - Here we have a ... - OK. 368 00:17:21,666 --> 00:17:26,490 ... and we go with the other one. Exactly, that, there it is. 369 00:17:26,490 --> 00:17:29,280 (Sumito) Ah, yes it is two laps. Two turns, look. OK. 370 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:35,009 Then one has to pull this tip here ... 371 00:17:35,009 --> 00:17:38,097 (Pedro) We finished closing, if you want that. 372 00:17:38,097 --> 00:17:40,595 (Sumito) There it is. 373 00:17:40,595 --> 00:17:41,480 Ham bread. 374 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,930 - And these corners? - No, you have to close them. 375 00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:47,948 He will do the same decoration which is in the recipe sound 376 00:17:47,948 --> 00:17:49,460 that Claudio Nazoa sent me, 377 00:17:49,460 --> 00:17:51,259 who spoke of making a band-aid, 378 00:17:51,259 --> 00:17:53,850 and then make him like some cuts on the sides 379 00:17:53,850 --> 00:17:55,351 so that it looks like a spike. 380 00:17:55,561 --> 00:17:57,974 ♪ (music) ♪ 381 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,090 I've made the bread, hey, it's heavy ... 382 00:18:06,090 --> 00:18:08,437 think that there is half a kilo of ham 383 00:18:08,437 --> 00:18:12,140 and like a kilo and a bit of hydrated flour, 384 00:18:12,140 --> 00:18:15,520 I mean, what are we talking about? as easy as two kilos here. 385 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,534 Done this here, 386 00:18:16,534 --> 00:18:18,950 this obviously has to be given a while of fermentation. 387 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:21,379 - What will it be, like half an hour? - Half an hour, approximately. 388 00:18:21,379 --> 00:18:23,980 And after half an hour, it goes for an oven 389 00:18:23,980 --> 00:18:27,090 and, in fact, in Claudio's recipe he makes a paper syrup 390 00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:28,670 of which we have done ten thousand times here. 391 00:18:28,670 --> 00:18:30,790 That paper syrup we did it in the bread cake, 392 00:18:30,790 --> 00:18:32,539 we did it in the yucca fritters, 393 00:18:32,539 --> 00:18:35,253 so many times we've done a paper syrup ... 394 00:18:35,253 --> 00:18:38,850 Claudio did tell me that is baked at the beginning without syrup 395 00:18:38,850 --> 00:18:41,861 and half baked you put the syrup from the papelón 396 00:18:41,861 --> 00:18:44,169 to give the final browning to the bread. 397 00:18:44,169 --> 00:18:45,594 Let's let this sit. 398 00:18:45,699 --> 00:18:47,609 ♪ (music) ♪ 399 00:18:52,369 --> 00:18:54,520 What a thrill, my first ham plan! 400 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,610 Done like this, well, you helped me a lot. 401 00:18:56,610 --> 00:18:59,501 Look, this one passed me two pieces of information that were very important. 402 00:18:59,501 --> 00:19:01,799 One, you must have seen it, 403 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:05,700 when I put grease on the tray to put it to rest 404 00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:08,000 to grow a little more and put it in the oven, 405 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,370 I did not put butter there If not, I put butter on it, right? 406 00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:12,980 And what he explained to me, which is very logical, 407 00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:15,350 is that if you put deep down butter, 408 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:17,907 with the heat of the oven, butter as it has dairy, 409 00:19:17,907 --> 00:19:21,545 ends up like burning and burning the bottom. 410 00:19:21,545 --> 00:19:25,820 That's why we put butter on it and indeed if you can see down here, 411 00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:28,810 look how nice it was, effectively, the bottom part. 412 00:19:28,810 --> 00:19:31,030 The other, which is also important, 413 00:19:31,030 --> 00:19:33,920 is that with a fork we made it like that, little holes, 414 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,450 as you can see here, 415 00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:36,750 so that the steam comes out 416 00:19:36,750 --> 00:19:39,390 and that is important when doing a good ham bread. 417 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:40,480 This one was baked, 418 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,309 what happens is that I have a big oven there, 419 00:19:42,309 --> 00:19:46,560 at 180 degrees centigrade for about 35 minutes. 420 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,410 Now, about 15-20 minutes, one opens the oven, smears it 421 00:19:51,410 --> 00:19:53,300 -that's why it has this spectacular color- 422 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:54,131 with paper, 423 00:19:54,131 --> 00:19:56,649 in fact it has like this, the role that you feel, 424 00:19:56,649 --> 00:19:59,376 and it is finished giving until the last ones are ready ... 425 00:19:59,376 --> 00:20:01,390 Let's say yes at 15 minutes you put the paper on him, 426 00:20:01,390 --> 00:20:05,999 about 25 more minutes of baking. 427 00:20:05,999 --> 00:20:07,109 Each oven is different, 428 00:20:07,109 --> 00:20:10,160 so you will have to experiment in the case of your house. 429 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,821 Yes it is important because that, in fact, 430 00:20:11,821 --> 00:20:14,830 he had also commented to me Claudio Nazoa when he explained this to me, 431 00:20:14,830 --> 00:20:18,509 that one can put heat underneath if they have convection ovens, 432 00:20:18,509 --> 00:20:22,400 but be very careful not to turn on the top of the oven, 433 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,549 in the case of domestic ovens that also turn on the grid above 434 00:20:25,549 --> 00:20:28,110 because there they are scorched the ham bread. 435 00:20:28,110 --> 00:20:30,821 - Let's see how it turned out. - The moment of truth. 436 00:20:30,821 --> 00:20:33,196 The moment of truth, do we bite here? 437 00:20:33,196 --> 00:20:35,030 Let's see... 438 00:20:35,030 --> 00:20:36,600 That already biting it you see ... 439 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,359 Look, look, look ... 440 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,779 My first ham bread! 441 00:20:40,779 --> 00:20:43,129 And it stayed like that, indeed ... 442 00:20:43,129 --> 00:20:46,410 - Do you want, chef? - Well, chef, we have to try it. 443 00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:48,966 Are those situations in which one cannot avoid 444 00:20:48,966 --> 00:20:50,649 eat a ham bread ... 445 00:20:50,649 --> 00:20:51,889 Hey okay do it 446 00:20:51,889 --> 00:20:56,169 they already have here on the channel practically the complete cookbook 447 00:20:56,169 --> 00:20:57,759 that is needed for christmas. 448 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,650 We already have the Hallas, we have the Christmas leg, 449 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:02,409 we have ham bread, 450 00:21:02,409 --> 00:21:06,610 we are recording for this year too, cream punch, 451 00:21:06,610 --> 00:21:08,044 there will be chicken salad 452 00:21:08,044 --> 00:21:09,049 -at different times- 453 00:21:09,049 --> 00:21:12,301 but for December it will be like the complete menu of Venezuelan Christmas. 454 00:21:12,301 --> 00:21:14,713 - Cheers, my chef. - Cheers, chef. 455 00:21:14,713 --> 00:21:16,928 - Have ... - Merry Christmas... 456 00:21:16,928 --> 00:21:18,906 No Merry Christmas because It's not Christmas yet 457 00:21:18,906 --> 00:21:20,700 and in any case, my chef, thank you very much for the class. 458 00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:21,771 Thank you. 459 00:21:22,164 --> 00:21:24,344 ♪ (music) ♪ 460 00:21:33,940 --> 00:21:36,209 I believe that this recipe that we have made ham bread today 461 00:21:36,209 --> 00:21:39,030 is the perfect recipe to understand the philosophy of this channel. 462 00:21:39,030 --> 00:21:42,169 A recipe that brings us together around the table, 463 00:21:42,169 --> 00:21:43,559 that teaches us new techniques, 464 00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:45,929 I learned thanks to you today. 465 00:21:45,929 --> 00:21:47,549 Tell me in the comments 466 00:21:47,549 --> 00:21:49,679 what have you also learned? 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