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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Insert ABC News theme music]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.87,0:00:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[male narrator]\NHi, I'm Chris Cuomo, and
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.16,0:00:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,welcome to our primetime webcast.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.86,0:00:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A look at one of the most\Nshocking experiments of
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.80,0:00:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the last 50 years, literally.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.40,0:00:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Insert music]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.74,0:00:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Imagine this scenario: you go to\Na prestigious university to participate
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.74,0:00:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a learning and memory experiment.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.86,0:00:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you arrive, you discover that the\Nteaching instrument is this machine
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.85,0:00:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which seems to give electroshocks to a\Nman on the other side of the wall.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.77,0:00:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man yells]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.64,0:00:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you move up the scale, he begins\Nto scream out in pain.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.77,0:00:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[man] The experiment requires that\Nyou continue.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.09,0:00:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NThe experimenter pressures
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.71,0:00:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you to go on.\NWould you agree to continue?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.66,0:00:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[man]\NAaaah! That's all!
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.69,0:00:45.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo] 45 years ago,\NDr. Stanley Milgram came up
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.93,0:00:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this experiment to test whether\Npeople would blindly follow the
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.32,0:00:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,orders of an authority figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.26,0:00:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He found that two-thirds of his subjects\Nwere willing to give the most dangerous
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.55,0:00:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shock on the machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.37,0:00:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We teamed up with Dr. Jerry Burger,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.69,0:01:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a social psychologist at Santa Clara\NUniversity in California,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.15,0:01:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see whether people have\Nchanged since then.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.42,0:01:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Buzzer buzzes]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.63,0:01:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[scientist] \NWrong. 90 volts.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.50,0:01:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[off camera]\NAaah!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.67,0:01:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dr. Jerry Burger]\NThe typical response is to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.85,0:01:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turn toward the experimenter, \Nand if not say something,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.43,0:01:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least give a look that says,\N"What should I do?"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.14,0:01:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NIn our new experiment, how many
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.46,0:01:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people would agree to follow the orders\Nof an authority figure?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.67,0:01:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[woman]\NOwl. That's incorrect.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.38,0:01:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\N39-year old Troy Schasker
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.69,0:01:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is an electrician.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.64,0:01:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's been paid $50.00 to participate,\Nand told that the money in his to keep
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.44,0:01:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if he quits the experiment early.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.29,0:01:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's worried about the dangers of the\Nelectroshock machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.17,0:01:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NWow. I don't think I can shock him
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.24,0:01:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that hard if he really does screw up.`\NThat's a severe shock there.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.66,0:01:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[scientist]\NYeah, there are 25...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.53,0:01:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NI can just go get my shotgun...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.15,0:01:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NIn the room next door, Troy
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.78,0:01:58.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watches as the learner gets strapped\Ninto his chair and really gets nervous
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.100,0:02:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once he hears him say this.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.90,0:02:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Learner]\NI should probably bring up a
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.67,0:02:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couple of years ago at Kaiser,\Nthey diagnosed a mild heart condition.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.67,0:02:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm really not too worried about it.\NIt's not that serious.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.31,0:02:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[scientist]\NWell you should know that while
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.18,0:02:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the shocks that we'll be using today\Nmay be painful, they're not dangerous, OK?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.01,0:02:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NMilgram intended that scripted
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.29,0:02:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exchange to set up a conflict\Nin the subject's mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.25,0:02:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A choice between the health of the learner\Nand the authority of the experimenter.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.60,0:02:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NNumber one,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.44,0:02:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NThen the test begins.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.10,0:02:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NBlue, boy, girl, grass, hat.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.28,0:02:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NThe learner must decide which of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.79,0:02:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the four words is the correct match.\NAt first, everything goes smoothly.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.53,0:02:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NCorrect.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.63,0:02:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was confident that he was doing really\Ngood at first, and then...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.24,0:02:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it started looking bad.\N[Troy laughs]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.94,0:02:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NThen at 75 volts, Troy hears the
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.95,0:02:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first sign of trouble.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.24,0:02:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NSoft: rug, pillow, hair, grass.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.23,0:02:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Buzzer buzzes]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.52,0:03:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Incorrect. 75 volts.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.66,0:03:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[learner]\NAaah!
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.28,0:03:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NI could actually hear him next
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.22,0:03:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,door going, "Ow! Oh!"\NAnd he kept getting things wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.57,0:03:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Buzzer buzzes]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.82,0:03:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Incorrect. 90 volts.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.88,0:03:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[learner]\NAaaah!
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.01,0:03:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NAt 105 volts, he's clearly uneasy.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.58,0:03:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NI got a little moist on my forehead there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.95,0:03:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't comfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.67,0:03:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not, I can't tell you why I listened\Nto him and kept going.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.06,0:03:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should've just said no.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.50,0:03:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[learner]\NAaah!
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.12,0:03:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NThe correct word was duck.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.64,0:03:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rock, house.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.87,0:03:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NAt 150 volts...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.86,0:03:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Buzzer buzzes]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.55,0:03:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Thump]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.56,0:03:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NIncorrect. 150 volts.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.04,0:03:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[learner]\NAaah! That's all!
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.46,0:03:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NWill Troy listen as the learner
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.63,0:03:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,begs him to stop?\NOr will he follow Brian's orders?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.07,0:03:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[scientist]\NTell him the correct word was white.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.41,0:03:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NThe correct word was white horse.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.70,0:04:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[learner]\NI can't go on. Let me out.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.05,0:04:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NThe next item is sad.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.49,0:04:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NHe obeys the orders.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.46,0:04:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NSpace...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.25,0:04:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NWhy didn't you stop?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.30,0:04:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NI saw him getting strapped in, and they
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.53,0:04:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were just like little... I mean he could\Nhave just, if he was in that much pain,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.34,0:04:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he could've just tore himself off.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.96,0:04:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NWhy are you putting it on him
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.04,0:04:19.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not you or the experimenter?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.61,0:04:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Troy]\NI was just doing my job. [laughs]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.32,0:04:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was doing what I was supposed to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.31,0:04:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,75 volts.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.65,0:04:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I guess the influence of having the\Nconductor of the experiment
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.24,0:04:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right there next to me telling me to keep\Ngoing had a lot to do with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.30,0:04:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NFor the past 30 years, there have
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.35,0:04:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been severe restrictions on using\Nhumans in social psychology research.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.68,0:04:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To avoid putting subjects under\Ntoo much stress,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.93,0:04:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dr. Burger made a significant change to\Nour experiment.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.37,0:04:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[to Dr. Burger] In this experiment,\Nyou stopped it at 150 make-believe volts.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.98,0:04:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Milgram, they went much higher.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.89,0:04:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dr. Burger]\NWe stopped for ethical reasons.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.94,0:04:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We couldn't put people through the agony\Nthat Milgram's participants went through.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.93,0:05:00.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[learner]\NI told you I had heart troubles.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.58,0:05:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My heart is starting to bother me now.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.30,0:05:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NAre there clues that indicate whether
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.79,0:05:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain people might be more\Ncompliant with authority?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.71,0:05:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[woman]\NWrong. 90 volts.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.10,0:05:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[learner]\NAaah!
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.84,0:05:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NWhen you were watching,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.14,0:05:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how good were you at guessing,\N"Oh this person may go or this may not?"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.74,0:05:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dr. Burger]\NIt was impossible to tell. I tried to guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.46,0:05:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to look for signs, body language,\Nanything to try to guess
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.89,0:05:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's going to continue, and\Nwho's going to stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.30,0:05:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that tells me that it's not that\Nthere are certain kinds of people
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.86,0:05:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are obviously different\Nfrom the rest of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.13,0:05:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It tells me that probably all\Nof us are capable.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.11,0:05:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Chris Cuomo]\NThanks for watching our Primetime webcast,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.46,0:05:42.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be sure to watch again next\Nweek at abcnews.com.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.21,0:05:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Chris Cuomo.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.52,0:05:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Insert music]