[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.54,0:00:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had prepared this presentation\Nin a very elaborate way. Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.10,0:00:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had written a text Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.77,0:00:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and had passed it on\Nto a professional editor, Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.04,0:00:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that I could introduce myself\Nand present my ideas to you Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.80,0:00:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in impeccable French. Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.04,0:00:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the end, when I thought about\Nthe theme of this conference this morning, Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.83,0:00:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we're talking about\Nthe languages of ideas, Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.19,0:00:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is, ID, the two letters, Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.82,0:00:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our identity, Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.14,0:00:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also our ideas, what's in our heads, Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.89,0:00:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the end, I decided not to follow Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.80,0:00:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I had prepared. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.73,0:00:59.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I made the decision to throw away\Neverything I had prepared Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.94,0:01:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and present myself today as I am, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.95,0:01:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all my flaws, all my faults,\Nand some virtues too. Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.39,0:01:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that poses a problem for you and me Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.22,0:01:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I don't speak French rigorously. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.89,0:01:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me explain. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.74,0:01:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's true that as an interpreter\NI don't speak languages badly, Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.85,0:01:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including French. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.49,0:01:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But interpreters have a very special way\Nof categorizing languages. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.82,0:01:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We talk about languages "A", "B", and "C". Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.85,0:01:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And French is, for me,\Nwhat we call a passive language, Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.70,0:01:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a "C" language, Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.16,0:01:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a language from which\NI am able to interpret, Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.23,0:01:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am very capable of doing so, Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.39,0:01:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I never interpret into it Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.48,0:01:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I don’t really have\Ncomplete mastery of it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.86,0:01:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, during this presentation,\NI'm going to talk nonsense, Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.11,0:01:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I assure you, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.41,0:01:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll make mistakes, Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.88,0:02:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if that's the case - Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.11,0:02:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I can assure you it will be - Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.99,0:02:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please make notes of them, Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.50,0:02:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, at the end, maybe send me\Nan email to bring my attention to them. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.85,0:02:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And based on that, we'll move forward, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.53,0:02:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so with that, let's get started! Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.93,0:02:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take a good look at this photo here. Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.43,0:02:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was taken in Brasilia,\Non 17 March 1992. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.21,0:02:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a Tuesday. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.95,0:02:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It also marks the precise moment\Nat which I became an interpreter. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.95,0:02:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But let me go back\Nand tell you how I got there. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.10,0:02:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Four years earlier, Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.95,0:02:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had joined the Brazilian\NNational Assembly as an employee. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.39,0:02:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was bored of filling out paper\Neight hours a day. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.96,0:02:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That day, at the last minute, Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.58,0:03:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone realized that the prince\Ndidn’t speak Portuguese, Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.99,0:03:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that we had to find someone\Nwho could do the linguistic mediation. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.59,0:03:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was really bored of the job\NI was doing at the time, Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.64,0:03:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had spread a rumour\Nthat I spoke fluent English. Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.84,0:03:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At some time, I got a phone call. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.46,0:03:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two hours later,\NI was sitting in that chair Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.46,0:03:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the mediation. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.21,0:03:33.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There it is! Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.28,0:03:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The gentleman in the light-coloured suit,\Nhis name is Ibsen Pinheiro, Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.60,0:03:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was, at the time,\Nthe President of the National Assembly. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.88,0:03:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Across from him at an angle, you see Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.57,0:03:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His Royal Highness Prince Philip,\NDuke of Edinburgh. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.38,0:04:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the young man between them,\Nthe one with lots of hair, that's me. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.79,0:04:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.44,0:04:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's how my career\Nas an interpreter began. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.24,0:04:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few weeks later, Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.90,0:04:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found myself in front of\Nthe Princess of Thailand. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.64,0:04:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another few months and I was pushed\Nin the deep end, you might say. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.24,0:04:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I swam, to my great amazement. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.66,0:04:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And ultimately, I had the opportunity Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.33,0:04:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the mediation\Nfor a number of ambassadors Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.03,0:04:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who came to present\Ntheir credentials and all that, Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.02,0:04:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as a few heads of state, Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.70,0:04:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including the Dalai Lama, Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.40,0:04:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the gentleman\Nin the middle, Michel Temer, Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.48,0:04:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who, after a few years,\Nbecame the President of Brazil. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.47,0:04:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.98,0:04:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's how I got there Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.91,0:05:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and became the official interpreter Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.06,0:05:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the National Assembly, Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.30,0:05:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the President of the National Assembly, Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.58,0:05:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who occasionally was also\Nthe Vice-President of the Republic, Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.29,0:05:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,following the fall of President Collor. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.49,0:05:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There you are. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.62,0:05:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I eventually quit my job at the congress, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.96,0:05:25.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at some point,\NI opened a translation agency Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.56,0:05:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I ran for 17 years, Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.25,0:05:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was called "Die Presse",\Nlike the Austrian newspaper. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.52,0:05:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few years later, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.58,0:05:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was already a very well\Ntrained interpreter, Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.47,0:05:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I decided to go to the United States\Nfor further academic training. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.18,0:05:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I took a few years\Nto do a master's degree Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.92,0:05:48.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Monterey Institute in California. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.41,0:05:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after about 10 years, Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.05,0:05:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was appointed chief interpreter\Nat ITU in Geneva, Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.52,0:05:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a specialized agency of the UN. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.11,0:06:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, little by little,\NI started to advance, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.10,0:06:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what made me, you might say, Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.62,0:06:13.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a more or less competent interpreter. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.91,0:06:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look closely, Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.22,0:06:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may notice Barack Obama\Ntowards the back of this photo. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.66,0:06:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There you are. Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.29,0:06:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, moving on. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.38,0:06:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seen from the outside, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.75,0:06:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simultaneous interpretation\Nseems like magic. Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.34,0:06:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the inside, it's pure madness. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.54,0:06:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You spend your life in a stuffy booth, Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.67,0:06:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with colleagues\Nyou usually know very well, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.100,0:06:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you are required to repeat\Nin a different language Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.47,0:06:58.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ideas and words of other people\Nthat you don’t know at all, Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.74,0:07:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeping the rhythm, the tone,\Nthe intention, the meaning, Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.46,0:07:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you search for words and documents Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.90,0:07:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you continue to interpret. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.58,0:07:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also need to have\Na kind of silent dialogue Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.65,0:07:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the colleague of the day, Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.21,0:07:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by means of the slightest\Nof gestures, of glances, of notes, Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.22,0:07:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order that we can effect our task. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.50,0:07:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make matters worse, Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.84,0:07:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are normally at the end of the room,\Non the other side of the room, Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.28,0:07:38.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normally here, in booths like these, Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.10,0:07:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we cannot signal\Nthe speaker to slow down, Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.58,0:07:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to interrupt him or her,\Nor to clarify, and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.58,0:07:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With so many obstacles, Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.68,0:07:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one might think Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.32,0:07:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simultaneous interpretation\Nto be an impossible task. Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.68,0:08:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet it is perfectly feasible. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.71,0:08:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really a beautiful job,\Nit's an extraordinary job. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.92,0:08:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has given me the opportunity\Nto go all over the world, Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.16,0:08:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has brought me into contact with\Nsome really important people, Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.54,0:08:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has given me the opportunity\Nto say, using my own voice, Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.64,0:08:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some very important things\Nthat have gone to form history. Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.38,0:08:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On occasions, perhaps, I've read\Nin the newspaper the day after a meeting Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.69,0:08:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the exact phrase I used in my language: Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.80,0:08:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was not the phrase\Nspoken by the president Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.40,0:08:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he spoke a different language. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.30,0:08:48.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, sometimes, there are\Nsome very interesting things: Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.53,0:08:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're really there to make history, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.73,0:08:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're part of it, that's great. Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.88,0:09:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's also a job that is sometimes\Nthe source of a lot of frustration. Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.48,0:09:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Above all, it’s the frustration\Nof spending an entire professional life Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.28,0:09:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expressing other people's ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.10,0:09:18.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We use our voice, our gestures,\Neverything we have, to communicate well, Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.29,0:09:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to give expression to what we feel\Nand what we want to say, Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.13,0:09:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather to do it for other people. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.87,0:09:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is also this false\Nsense of belonging, Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.92,0:09:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since one day I am there, Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.43,0:09:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right next to the president,\Nother members too, with the king, Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.83,0:09:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but after the lights have gone out,\NI am just the interpreter. Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.70,0:09:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sometimes that messes\Nwith our heads a bit. Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.95,0:09:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some colleagues have\Ncertainly had difficulty Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.91,0:10:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking this aspect of our profession\Ninto consideration. Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.89,0:10:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, at some point you start\Nasking yourself the question: Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.18,0:10:07.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.35,0:10:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why devote yourself to it? Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.03,0:10:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do this job full of difficulties? Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.59,0:10:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why spend your whole life Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.90,0:10:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in such a complicated way Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.25,0:10:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that precludes self-expression and so on? Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.93,0:10:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at a certain point,\Nyou start to feel a level of anxiety Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.69,0:10:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that increases without\Nyour knowing exactly why. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.87,0:10:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time\Nas one becomes an interpreter, Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.64,0:10:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a better one, more competent and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.53,0:10:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same time -\Nwhat was true for me anyway - Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.82,0:10:45.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that I constantly had this feeling\Nof not really being there, Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.55,0:10:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if I were just an invisible voice, Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.58,0:10:55.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I wasn't - if you will - Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.46,0:10:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't fulfilled. Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.01,0:11:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, at a certain point,\NI began asking myself the question: Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.84,0:11:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do I feel this way? Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.72,0:11:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why the anxiety? Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.29,0:11:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been doing this for years, why? Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.91,0:11:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so at that point, I was an interpreter\Nvery little sure of myself. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.46,0:11:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this bothered me. Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.59,0:11:17.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I started asking myself\Nthe question: Why? Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.34,0:11:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Portuguese, the word for "why"\Nforms a question, but also a reply. Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.57,0:11:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We use the same word: Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.49,0:11:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not like in English,\Nwhere we have "why" and "because". Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.63,0:11:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Portuguese, we say "por que", Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.21,0:11:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reply is also "porque" -\Nwe just write it slightly differently. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.92,0:11:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At a certain point, I realized\Nthat "why" may also be the best answer, Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.46,0:11:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not just the best question. Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.54,0:11:48.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a lesson I learned\Nfrom another interpreter, Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.91,0:11:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very famous interpreter,\Nbut a different kind of interpreter. Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.75,0:11:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His name is Vido Santiago. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.25,0:12:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if his name doesn't\Nmean anything to you, Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.17,0:12:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe it's time you got to know Vido. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.07,0:12:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is a virtuoso saxophonist, Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.79,0:12:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he has travelled all over the world\Nto blow into his saxophone. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.26,0:12:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has played with all the singers\Non the international scene. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.48,0:12:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has been invited to all\Nthe jazz festivals on the planet. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.97,0:12:29.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're very close because I married\Nhis sister about 30 years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.95,0:12:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.30,0:12:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, one day, I was\Nat my mother-in-law's house, Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.65,0:12:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we started talking. Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.39,0:12:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked him, Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.05,0:12:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Vido, you often go up\Nin front of thousands of people, Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.60,0:12:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you control\Nthe fear of going on stage? Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.74,0:12:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it something you suffer from?" Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.12,0:12:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "No, I don't. Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.94,0:12:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I have a very strict ritual." Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.57,0:13:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He started to tell me everything he does, Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.69,0:13:05.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at the end, he told me that\Nevery time before going on stage, Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.26,0:13:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he takes a minute to think it all over, Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.04,0:13:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do ... erm ... a sort of meditation ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.33,0:13:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so on ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.78,0:13:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... and to pray well. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.95,0:13:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for me, it was a real surprise Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.86,0:13:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, after so many years\Nof tours and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.67,0:13:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone like Vido followed this routine, Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.50,0:13:33.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,found it necessary to do it and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.30,0:13:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I kept asking him the question: Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.59,0:13:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But why, and what do you do\Nthat gets you past it? Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.45,0:13:43.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.02,0:13:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"As soon as you know\Nwhy you're doing something, Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.31,0:13:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anxiety disappears, Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.53,0:13:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it vanishes completely. Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.83,0:13:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to ask yourself the question.” Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.87,0:13:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he began\Nto give me some examples. Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.84,0:13:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He gave me four examples. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.32,0:14:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Among musicians,\Nthere are some colleagues Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.24,0:14:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who play from emotional anger. Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.29,0:14:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are angry because\Nthey suffer discrimination, Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.79,0:14:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's some form of harassment,\Nsexually, or because of their age, Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.21,0:14:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whatever else. Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.94,0:14:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so when they go on stage,\Nthey carry with them that anger, Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.81,0:14:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they use that emotion\Nto take revenge against the world. Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.38,0:14:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the result is undeniably good music. Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.87,0:14:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are also some colleagues\Nwho do it from emotional vanity. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.18,0:14:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have such a degree of insecurity Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.73,0:14:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it forces them\Nto go on stage and do their best, Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.67,0:14:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that, at the end,\Nthey receive applause, Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.52,0:14:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, in that way,\Ngain their self-confidence. Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.22,0:15:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are also a few others Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.17,0:15:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who play because they realize Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.96,0:15:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, in fact, they should be\Ndoing something else. Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.09,0:15:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By saying that they're there,\Nthey're playing as a form of avoidance. Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.86,0:15:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, perhaps my body\Nis no longer there, Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.48,0:15:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I should be doing something else, Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.32,0:15:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but secretly they fear\Nthey are not good enough, Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.80,0:15:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they keep playing. Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.50,0:15:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are a few, like me,\Nfor example, who play, Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.06,0:15:40.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or do what we do, Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.65,0:15:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a way of giving pursuit to\Nsomeone else that we admire Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.92,0:15:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to gain\Ntheir admiration or affection. Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.01,0:15:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was my case at the beginning Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.70,0:15:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with regard to my father." Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.32,0:15:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There it is. Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.41,0:15:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At some time, he said to me, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.08,0:16:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I've gone through\Nall these kinds of emotions, Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.19,0:16:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the end, whenever I realized\Nthat I was at a certain level, Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.06,0:16:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sought to go forward yet further. Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.80,0:16:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went through all that,\Nand today I'm playing because one day - Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.48,0:16:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember it very well,\Nwhen I was a kid - Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.25,0:16:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to a concert,\Nand I left completely changed Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.77,0:16:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of one note I heard. Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.17,0:16:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It completely changed my life, Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.16,0:16:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's why I play the saxophone. Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.78,0:16:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, today, I've reached\Nthe level of compassion, Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.22,0:16:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the emotion that makes me play. Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.81,0:16:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, as far as I'm concerned,\Nwhat I'm trying to do Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.07,0:16:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to play to transform. Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.89,0:16:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because in any crowd, Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.31,0:16:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on any day, Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.86,0:16:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is at least one person\Nwho is ready to be changed. Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.46,0:17:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I pray for that person\Nto be there and leave changed." Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.88,0:17:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There you are. Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.88,0:17:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that point, I started\Nto put questions to myself. Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.89,0:17:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe you could\Nin doing whatever you do Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.77,0:17:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask yourself them too. Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.89,0:17:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not here to give you advice,\Nbut some suggestions, maybe. Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.76,0:17:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the questions are these: Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.53,0:17:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do you do what you do? Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.72,0:17:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to answer that question\Nin a very honest way. Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.62,0:17:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is it that really motivates you? Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.89,0:17:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ultimately, if you find\Nthat the emotion is not the right one, Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.66,0:17:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what could you do to leave it behind Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.12,0:17:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and maybe move on to another emotion Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.61,0:17:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that perhaps will give you\Nthe desire or the energy Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.42,0:17:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do the things you do\Nfrom that different emotion Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.12,0:18:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is in fact greater than you\Nand not totally centred on you. Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.85,0:18:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And finally, for whom do you play? Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.03,0:18:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because as an interpreter,\None reminds oneself very often Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.24,0:18:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the fact that\Nevery time I centre on myself, Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.91,0:18:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I then miss the odd phrase, Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.84,0:18:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll reproach myself for it,\Nand lose the next one on top of it. Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.73,0:18:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I applaud myself because, yes,\NI understood that, well done me, Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.16,0:18:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will then lose what comes next. Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.83,0:18:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, as an interpreter one learns Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.68,0:18:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to do this job well, Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.54,0:18:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to forget yourself,\Nand focus your attention on someone else. Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.32,0:18:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe you need to find\Nsomeone else to focus on Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.38,0:18:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do your job better. Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.16,0:19:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, these are two difficult questions, Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.17,0:19:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the answers may elude you for a while. Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.75,0:19:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But asking them, and acting on\Nthe insights gained thereby, Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.31,0:19:14.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the only way to continue to advance. Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.04,0:19:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pending that, Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.24,0:19:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps you could try certain aspects\Nof the Vido Santiago routine. Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.78,0:19:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, take a minute to recall exactly Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.64,0:19:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the real reason you find yourself\Nin your job or wherever. Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.62,0:19:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beyond the interpreting booth, Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.88,0:19:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the stage, Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.42,0:19:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are so many discoveries to make, Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.90,0:19:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dreams to realize, Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.23,0:19:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantasies about to fall apart. Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.44,0:19:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All you need to do is to play\Na note precisely with emotion, Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.19,0:20:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to pronounce a word\Nwith compassion and in a precise way, Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.77,0:20:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and every day, in whichever crowd, Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.91,0:20:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is at least one person\Nready to be changed. Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.63,0:20:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope that person is listening today. Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.82,0:20:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope you are that person. Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.37,0:20:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.57,0:20:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)