WEBVTT 00:00:24.910 --> 00:00:27.180 PRAKASH MURTHY: Good evening, everyone! 00:00:27.180 --> 00:00:30.040 AUDIENCE: [mumbling, speaking] Good evening! 00:00:30.040 --> 00:00:32.840 P.M.: I see the energy has sapped totally. We 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:36.320 are at the end of the conference and there's... 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:41.030 At least that's how I am feeling. Am... 00:00:41.030 --> 00:00:42.210 AUDIENCE: [indecipherable] 00:00:42.210 --> 00:00:45.150 P.M.: OK. Good evening everyone! 00:00:45.150 --> 00:00:46.920 AUDIENCE: Good evening! 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:52.210 P.M.: Yay! All right, do you- so, are you 00:00:52.210 --> 00:00:55.010 ready for the last session of the Garden City 00:00:55.010 --> 00:00:57.460 Ruby Conference 2014? 00:00:57.460 --> 00:01:00.340 AUDIENCE: Yeah! 00:01:00.340 --> 00:01:07.340 P.M.: Yes! So let me start by this thing. 00:01:08.780 --> 00:01:13.060 This happened the day before the conference, 00:01:13.060 --> 00:01:15.750 and I haven't processed all the 00:01:15.750 --> 00:01:17.280 things that have happened in the last two days, 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:18.720 but I feel like this is the best thing 00:01:18.720 --> 00:01:22.500 for, from my perspective in the last, in this 00:01:22.500 --> 00:01:27.800 conference. First off, we have already fixed this problem. 00:01:27.800 --> 00:01:31.440 There are, there are no longer one Ruby conferences 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:34.330 in India. There are - how many? 00:01:34.330 --> 00:01:35.420 AUDIENCE: Two! 00:01:35.420 --> 00:01:42.420 P.M.: Two Ruby conferences in India now. But I, 00:01:45.349 --> 00:01:49.310 I was really kind of shocked when Chad said 00:01:49.310 --> 00:01:51.270 that. Yeah, in the US it was like that, 00:01:51.270 --> 00:01:52.940 in fact in the whole world it was like 00:01:52.940 --> 00:01:57.390 that. In fact, there was no Ruby conferences ever, 00:01:57.390 --> 00:02:00.119 and then somebody said let's make one happen. So 00:02:00.119 --> 00:02:02.630 Chad and a few others joined together and did 00:02:02.630 --> 00:02:05.369 the first RubyConf in the US. And I was 00:02:05.369 --> 00:02:10.030 surprised learn that it was, it had only thirty-one 00:02:10.030 --> 00:02:17.030 participants. 2001. In Tampa. And now, this year's RubyConf 00:02:18.989 --> 00:02:22.670 in Miami had around 500 participants. So it's grown 00:02:22.670 --> 00:02:28.379 all like that over the last twelve years. I 00:02:28.379 --> 00:02:31.170 find it heartening because we are at that stage, 00:02:31.170 --> 00:02:35.500 where they were back in 2001 and 2002. We 00:02:35.500 --> 00:02:39.390 can learn from them and get, butt ahead in 00:02:39.390 --> 00:02:46.390 the next couple of years. So, so this is 00:02:48.820 --> 00:02:55.820 what I have planned for this talk. I was 00:02:58.230 --> 00:03:02.280 not supposed to be here. My plan for this 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:05.920 conference was to be spending all the time with 00:03:05.920 --> 00:03:12.920 my beautiful daughter and leave the team, team to 00:03:14.220 --> 00:03:20.030 take care of everything. And everything was going fine. 00:03:20.030 --> 00:03:23.900 In fact, two m- last two months I haven't 00:03:23.900 --> 00:03:26.900 been on the mailing list as well. I let 00:03:26.900 --> 00:03:30.730 the team take care of everything and I was 00:03:30.730 --> 00:03:35.400 just, once in awhile, say what's up, what's happening. 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:40.730 But today, we lost one of our keynote speakers, 00:03:40.730 --> 00:03:43.220 and so that was a major crisis. I didn't 00:03:43.220 --> 00:03:45.010 want to leave it on the team. So I 00:03:45.010 --> 00:03:47.890 came here, and I'm here, and I'm on stage 00:03:47.890 --> 00:03:52.580 giving this talk. With not much preparation, I thought 00:03:52.580 --> 00:03:55.330 it's maybe a good idea to just share about 00:03:55.330 --> 00:03:57.290 how we came to be here. How this whole 00:03:57.290 --> 00:04:00.730 Garden City Ruby thing happened. You guys interested in 00:04:00.730 --> 00:04:02.590 learning more about Garden City Ruby? 00:04:02.590 --> 00:04:04.050 AUDIENCE: Yes. Yeah. 00:04:04.050 --> 00:04:08.270 P.M.: OK. Let's begin at, from the very beginning. 00:04:08.270 --> 00:04:14.020 In the beginning there was nothing. Let's see, let's 00:04:14.020 --> 00:04:19.039 see... yes. In the beginning there was nothing, then 00:04:19.039 --> 00:04:23.930 on June 29th, 2013, I sent email to the 00:04:23.930 --> 00:04:27.400 Bangalore Ruby user group, saying hey, let's do a 00:04:27.400 --> 00:04:32.800 conference. This was a week after last, this year's 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.770 RubyConf India in Pune, where I gave a talk 00:04:36.770 --> 00:04:40.310 about taking Indian Ruby community to the next level. 00:04:40.310 --> 00:04:43.520 There I talked about essentially what Satir?? [00:04:43] talked 00:04:43.520 --> 00:04:47.970 about in his community lightning talk. We need more 00:04:47.970 --> 00:04:52.430 meet ups, we need more conferences. Afterwards, I got 00:04:52.430 --> 00:04:54.100 a lot of good feedback. A lot of people 00:04:54.100 --> 00:04:55.440 came up to me and said, hey, you inspired 00:04:55.440 --> 00:04:56.720 us, we are going to do a meetup in 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.630 Mumbai. We are going to do a meetup in 00:04:59.630 --> 00:05:02.770 Kochi or whatever. Nobody really talked about doing a 00:05:02.770 --> 00:05:06.970 conference. So I said, OK, you know what, let 00:05:06.970 --> 00:05:11.880 me show it by example how it is done, 00:05:11.880 --> 00:05:18.310 and I started this project. This mail got an 00:05:18.310 --> 00:05:21.270 amazing response. Around fifteen, twenty people responded on the 00:05:21.270 --> 00:05:22.520 Bangalore Ruby usergroup saying hey, we are interested. We 00:05:22.520 --> 00:05:29.520 want to help you. So, thanks to the Bangalore 00:05:29.540 --> 00:05:36.290 Ruby user group for that kind of amazing response. 00:05:36.290 --> 00:05:43.290 Next. So that's when it started. And the very 00:05:49.020 --> 00:05:50.990 first thing I focused on was to get the 00:05:50.990 --> 00:05:55.040 keynote speakers. As somebody was pointing out to me 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.730 earlier, if we have the key, one or two 00:05:58.730 --> 00:06:02.690 keynote speakers, well-known keynote speakers in the line-up, it 00:06:02.690 --> 00:06:08.110 becomes very easy to sell the conference to others. 00:06:08.110 --> 00:06:12.400 And the first person I approached to was Chad, 00:06:12.400 --> 00:06:15.560 and Chad enthusiastically said, yes, I'm coming to Bangalore. 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:20.460 I want to be in Bangalore. And, yeah, I 00:06:20.460 --> 00:06:24.120 was telling Chad yesterday, I attribute 80% of the 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.030 success of this conference to him. Because of him 00:06:27.030 --> 00:06:30.550 being here, a lot of people decided to come 00:06:30.550 --> 00:06:32.780 here. We got a lot of sponsors to pay 00:06:32.780 --> 00:06:39.780 up. He says I'm, you know, I'm wrong, but 00:06:40.150 --> 00:06:47.150 I believe, at least, if not 80, 79%. Yeah. 00:06:48.650 --> 00:06:52.000 We got the keynote speakers lined up. Now that 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.150 one, one other point I want to make here. 00:06:54.150 --> 00:06:57.229 We can't keep having Chad come here every time 00:06:57.229 --> 00:06:59.830 we want to have a conference. So we need 00:06:59.830 --> 00:07:04.340 more Indian Chad Fowlers. So we need more of 00:07:04.340 --> 00:07:06.680 the people sitting here to be up here a 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.260 lot of times, and make a name for themselves, 00:07:09.260 --> 00:07:11.940 so that when you go to another place, or 00:07:11.940 --> 00:07:15.220 some city to give a talk, people pay to 00:07:15.220 --> 00:07:19.199 come and see you. So we'll get there in 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.800 a couple of years. Who wants to take up 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:27.270 that challenge? Nice. Nice to see a few hands 00:07:27.270 --> 00:07:34.270 go up. The next thing I want to talk 00:07:36.190 --> 00:07:40.889 about is the first, the organization behind this conference. 00:07:40.889 --> 00:07:43.949 So when I first started talking about this conference, 00:07:43.949 --> 00:07:49.120 my original idea was that we'll go with ITT. 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:54.870 ITT is the entity which puts up RubyConf India. 00:07:54.870 --> 00:07:59.180 They have done a phenomenally good job of organizing 00:07:59.180 --> 00:08:03.560 four annual Ruby conferences in India. And you already 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:06.370 heard from Ajay in the morning about the background 00:08:06.370 --> 00:08:11.600 of those conferences. Very soon in the process I 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.789 realized that may not work out for me, or 00:08:14.789 --> 00:08:21.570 at least, what I was trying to accomplish. If 00:08:21.570 --> 00:08:25.400 we had gone with ITT, it would mostly have 00:08:25.400 --> 00:08:27.780 been, again, Ajey, Gautam and a few others doing 00:08:27.780 --> 00:08:30.229 most of the work, or taking most of the 00:08:30.229 --> 00:08:37.110 key decisions. And there's no - it would just 00:08:37.110 --> 00:08:41.059 be another RubyConf India. I wanted a totally new 00:08:41.059 --> 00:08:44.380 team to come up, learn from scratch how to 00:08:44.380 --> 00:08:48.759 do all this. How to do, get sponsors, how 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.560 to put up a program, how to organi- do 00:08:51.560 --> 00:08:55.100 all the logistics stuff required for setting up a 00:08:55.100 --> 00:08:57.920 good conference. So I decided in the very beginning, 00:08:57.920 --> 00:08:59.369 OK, not, we are not going to go with 00:08:59.369 --> 00:09:01.429 ITT. We are going to start a- we'll have 00:09:01.429 --> 00:09:07.990 a new, non-profit entity created. And so maybe, it 00:09:07.990 --> 00:09:10.509 took us awhile to get there, but two months 00:09:10.509 --> 00:09:14.779 later I think we had our trust. So these 00:09:14.779 --> 00:09:21.779 are the six trust members. So among the organizing 00:09:22.249 --> 00:09:24.809 team, it's me and Tejas who are not on 00:09:24.809 --> 00:09:28.259 the trust, for different reasons. Everyone else is on 00:09:28.259 --> 00:09:35.259 the trust, and yeah. The one hour of time, 00:09:41.769 --> 00:09:44.149 Satish at this point, because he did all the 00:09:44.149 --> 00:09:47.509 ground work for finding out what's required to do, 00:09:47.509 --> 00:09:50.829 set up a trust. And he is also followed 00:09:50.829 --> 00:09:54.809 up on the financial part of it. So big 00:09:54.809 --> 00:10:01.809 hand to Satish. Satish over here. So, yeah, that's 00:10:03.439 --> 00:10:06.329 probably about the organization part. Then about the talk 00:10:06.329 --> 00:10:13.160 selection and, talk proposals and selections. I want to 00:10:13.160 --> 00:10:17.309 share this interesting breakdown of all the talk proposals 00:10:17.309 --> 00:10:22.220 we got. Total we got seventy-two talk proposals. That's 00:10:22.220 --> 00:10:24.399 a good number, given that we had only around 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.439 a month's time for call, when the call for 00:10:28.439 --> 00:10:35.439 proposal was open. What do you make of this? 00:10:36.589 --> 00:10:40.749 Everybody wants to submit a talk at the last 00:10:40.749 --> 00:10:47.749 minute. This, actually we- Where's Leena? Come on up 00:10:50.449 --> 00:10:57.449 here. Carry the mic for her. Oh, you, yeah. 00:10:58.149 --> 00:11:01.220 So Leena had the idea that we should actually 00:11:01.220 --> 00:11:04.230 train some of these people who give us a 00:11:04.230 --> 00:11:08.449 proposal and then maybe, yeah, we could interact with 00:11:08.449 --> 00:11:12.769 them, and then we'll lead much better proposals and 00:11:12.769 --> 00:11:16.589 much better talks in this conference. If this happens, 00:11:16.589 --> 00:11:19.809 if everybody submits at the last minute, we can't 00:11:19.809 --> 00:11:23.689 do much about that. So next time a conference 00:11:23.689 --> 00:11:28.399 is announced, please make sure you submit a talk 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.139 right at the beginning. We, we, well, I want 00:11:31.139 --> 00:11:34.489 this to be reversed. I want more talk proposals 00:11:34.489 --> 00:11:37.989 coming at the beginning than at the end. Just, 00:11:37.989 --> 00:11:41.829 I have a few questions for you. So I'll 00:11:41.829 --> 00:11:46.970 just show a couple of other things. We got 00:11:46.970 --> 00:11:51.360 sixty-seven proposals from men and five proposals from women, 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.569 and of the five proposals from women, three were 00:11:53.569 --> 00:11:58.040 from the same person, and one was a, was 00:11:58.040 --> 00:12:00.809 paired with a perso- guy. 00:12:00.809 --> 00:12:02.730 LEENA S N: And the- 00:12:02.730 --> 00:12:05.519 P.M.: And the last one was, we made, we invited 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.079 those two to submit a talk. That was Sakshi 00:12:08.079 --> 00:12:10.600 and Pallavi. We told them we need you here 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:13.550 talking, so you need to propose. So really this 00:12:13.550 --> 00:12:16.569 was almost non-existant for the number of proposals by 00:12:16.569 --> 00:12:16.980 women. 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:20.339 L.S.N.: And that too the three proposals was 00:12:20.339 --> 00:12:21.709 not from India- I mean- 00:12:21.709 --> 00:12:23.319 P.M.: Again, yeah, that three proposals- 00:12:23.319 --> 00:12:25.739 L.S.N.: It was from Emily, Emily from Mongol?? [00:12:26] 00:12:25.739 --> 00:12:30.529 P.M.: So the womenfolk in the room here. 00:12:30.529 --> 00:12:33.670 Any thoughts of submitting proposals for the next 00:12:33.670 --> 00:12:40.670 conference? OK. Let's, let's change this. We got a 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:47.850 lot of proposals from different countries as well. But 00:12:47.850 --> 00:12:51.389 ultimately it ended up that none of them could 00:12:51.389 --> 00:12:55.079 come. We selected two of the speakers from this, 00:12:55.079 --> 00:12:59.959 for, from non, who are not from India, and 00:12:59.959 --> 00:13:01.819 both could not come for different reasons, so we 00:13:01.819 --> 00:13:05.160 ended up with only Indian speaker line-up, other than 00:13:05.160 --> 00:13:12.129 the invited keynote speakers. I was very happy with, 00:13:12.129 --> 00:13:17.619 to see this. The breakup from different cities. This 00:13:17.619 --> 00:13:20.589 shows that there is room for having meetups and 00:13:20.589 --> 00:13:23.670 conferences at each of these cities as well. You 00:13:23.670 --> 00:13:29.290 just need to start something there. OK, this is 00:13:29.290 --> 00:13:31.879 fine. So Leena. How did we go about talk 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:33.829 selection. What, what happened? 00:13:33.829 --> 00:13:37.339 L.S.N.: So, like I'm, like 00:13:37.339 --> 00:13:41.139 Prakash mentioned, we wanted to have a lot of 00:13:41.139 --> 00:13:45.779 conversation with the submitters, but that didn't happen because 00:13:45.779 --> 00:13:48.989 of lots, so many proposals came in. So we 00:13:48.989 --> 00:13:53.410 relied on the busyconf rating system, so all, all, 00:13:53.410 --> 00:13:55.589 everyone in the, in the organizing committee, they rated 00:13:55.589 --> 00:13:58.790 the talks, and we went with the - most 00:13:58.790 --> 00:14:02.839 of the time we went with the rating, given 00:14:02.839 --> 00:14:06.220 by the, the auto rating given by busyconf as 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:09.319 rated by all the organizers. And we had given 00:14:09.319 --> 00:14:14.379 some exceptions. Like the Rails Girls, we thought, OK, 00:14:14.379 --> 00:14:16.959 we want them to be talking about how we 00:14:16.959 --> 00:14:20.600 ran. Because it's experience important that, that should encourage 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:23.189 others to join these kind of things. So, so 00:14:23.189 --> 00:14:26.100 we made some exceptions like that, but mainly it 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:28.609 was the rating given by, given by the organization. 00:14:28.609 --> 00:14:31.529 P.M.: So it's these ratings here. Each of the 00:14:31.529 --> 00:14:35.329 team members gave a rating and we rated all 00:14:35.329 --> 00:14:38.009 the talks. So started ?? from the ?? [00:14:38]. 00:14:38.009 --> 00:14:41.259 There were a few exceptions, right. 00:14:41.259 --> 00:14:45.329 L.N.S.: Yeah, we had, only Rails Girls was the exception. 00:14:45.329 --> 00:14:47.249 P.M.: Rails Girls was exception, and I think 00:14:47.249 --> 00:14:49.799 Emily also we had to remove one of her talks. 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:53.439 L.N.S.: Yeah, and we also, so Emily's - we, I think 00:14:53.439 --> 00:14:55.079 we have, we can pull out the blog post 00:14:55.079 --> 00:14:56.299 that we have written. So we also, apart from 00:14:56.299 --> 00:14:59.199 the rating, we also decided that we would not 00:14:59.199 --> 00:15:02.929 have more than two speakers outside of India, and 00:15:02.929 --> 00:15:06.029 we'll have only one speaker from the organizing company- 00:15:06.029 --> 00:15:06.739 P.M.: Organizing team, yes. 00:15:06.739 --> 00:15:07.579 L.N.S.: Even if it gets 00:15:07.579 --> 00:15:11.429 higher rating. And we also decided that we'll not 00:15:11.429 --> 00:15:15.139 have two talks from the same person, so that 00:15:15.139 --> 00:15:18.259 negated many of them in the top, because Emily's 00:15:18.259 --> 00:15:20.809 almost, all talks from Emily got a higher rating. 00:15:20.809 --> 00:15:26.269 But we negated those because same speaker, and outside 00:15:26.269 --> 00:15:27.269 India. And then we relied on the rating- 00:15:27.269 --> 00:15:27.829 P.M.: Yeah. 00:15:27.829 --> 00:15:30.059 L.N.S.: And exception was, and apart from those 00:15:30.059 --> 00:15:31.779 exceptions, we gave the exceptions to Rails Girls- 00:15:31.779 --> 00:15:32.619 P.M.: Rails Girls, yeah. 00:15:32.619 --> 00:15:33.569 L.N.S.: Because we, because of the 00:15:33.569 --> 00:15:36.829 Rails reason, and I think that was a very 00:15:36.829 --> 00:15:38.889 good talk and I think we learned quite a 00:15:38.889 --> 00:15:40.279 few things from them, so. 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:41.429 P.M.: And Hermant had 00:15:41.429 --> 00:15:43.600 a very good talk proposal and which rated very 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:43.889 high. 00:15:43.889 --> 00:15:45.499 L.N.S.: So there was a lot of- 00:15:45.499 --> 00:15:46.569 P.M.: And we had to remove him. 00:15:46.569 --> 00:15:47.029 L.N.S.: Yeah, there 00:15:47.029 --> 00:15:50.269 was a lot of debate on, we had to, 00:15:50.269 --> 00:15:53.049 we, among us organizers, we had to, we had 00:15:53.049 --> 00:15:56.859 a lot of debates. And that, that talk went 00:15:56.859 --> 00:15:59.790 for a couple of calls, and then finally we 00:15:59.790 --> 00:16:02.319 decided we'll have only one talk, and Hermant had 00:16:02.319 --> 00:16:05.470 two. But Hermant had a very good Panel Discussion- 00:16:05.470 --> 00:16:06.290 P.M.: Panel Discussion, yeah. 00:16:06.290 --> 00:16:07.350 L.N.S.: And, that I think 00:16:07.350 --> 00:16:08.959 was a huge success, so. 00:16:08.959 --> 00:16:11.119 P.M.: OK. So. I 00:16:11.119 --> 00:16:14.199 want to thank Leena for doing a phenomenal job 00:16:14.199 --> 00:16:21.199 with the talk selection and leading everything. Thank you. 00:16:26.239 --> 00:16:26.799 You can give it to her. I want to 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.299 thank Emil over here for managing the website and 00:16:29.299 --> 00:16:33.959 everything related to that. He, he didn't do all 00:16:33.959 --> 00:16:36.449 the work, but he got the right people involved 00:16:36.449 --> 00:16:38.019 at the right time, and he gave us what 00:16:38.019 --> 00:16:42.059 we wanted. The blog featured in the website, it 00:16:42.059 --> 00:16:49.059 was amazing. He made it superb. How many of 00:16:53.419 --> 00:16:55.689 you know about the opportunities scholarship that we gave 00:16:55.689 --> 00:17:02.689 in this conference? Nice. So, Swanand, what's this opportunities 00:17:06.709 --> 00:17:10.439 scholarship that we are talking about? 00:17:10.439 --> 00:17:17.260 SWANAND PAGNIS: So the opportunities scholarship 00:17:17.260 --> 00:17:19.339 is an opportunity for those students 00:17:19.339 --> 00:17:23.839 and other underrepresented groups to attend a conference. For 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.939 example students, who are studying ?? [00:17:26], who really 00:17:26.939 --> 00:17:28.860 want to be a part of the community, talk 00:17:28.860 --> 00:17:32.650 to other people, but cannot really afford to travel 00:17:32.650 --> 00:17:35.800 all the way to Bangalore, or even for the 00:17:35.800 --> 00:17:39.160 conference tickets. Usually conference tickets in India are like 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:42.400 two, three thousand, in that range. For a student 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:46.230 it's a decently steep price. So the idea was 00:17:46.230 --> 00:17:49.820 also implemented in RubyConf India. I was one of 00:17:49.820 --> 00:17:51.900 the mentors of one of the students, and I 00:17:51.900 --> 00:17:55.030 really had fun interacting with them all along, like, 00:17:55.030 --> 00:17:57.740 about the month leading to the conference, and on 00:17:57.740 --> 00:18:02.240 the conference days itself. So Prakash and I decided 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.810 that if the budget allows it we are going 00:18:04.810 --> 00:18:07.010 to do the opportunities scholarship here at GCRC, too. 00:18:07.010 --> 00:18:08.140 And, well I'll a- 00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:09.950 P.M.: This is the list. 00:18:09.950 --> 00:18:12.950 S.P.: So this is the list of all the 00:18:12.950 --> 00:18:15.540 selected students, and- 00:18:15.540 --> 00:18:17.990 P.M.: So where are the scholarship winners? 00:18:17.990 --> 00:18:19.940 S.P.: Can all of them please stand up. 00:18:19.940 --> 00:18:21.170 P.M.: Can you stand up. 00:18:21.170 --> 00:18:23.400 S.P.: All the students. 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.890 P.M.: Students! And most of them don't even know 00:18:27.890 --> 00:18:30.280 Ruby, they are seeing the Ruby for the first 00:18:30.280 --> 00:18:31.690 time, a couple of them are seeing Ruby for 00:18:31.690 --> 00:18:32.580 the first time. 00:18:32.580 --> 00:18:35.050 S.P.: Tushar here is coming from, 00:18:35.050 --> 00:18:36.410 all the way from Jaiper. 00:18:36.410 --> 00:18:39.680 P.M.: OK. Thank you. 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:46.680 And, OK. Oh yeah. I missed out some- an 00:18:47.800 --> 00:18:51.700 important point here, which we did a lot of 00:18:51.700 --> 00:18:54.350 work in figuring out the way to hold this 00:18:54.350 --> 00:19:00.900 conference, and making all arrangements: food, logistics, the internet, 00:19:00.900 --> 00:19:07.900 everything - all this. Lanyards, t-shirts, all that. Tejas 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:16.070 and Dheeraj- Dheeraj is here? OK, so big hand 00:19:16.070 --> 00:19:23.070 to Tejas and Dheeraj, please. So this is what 00:19:29.770 --> 00:19:35.040 happened with our registrations. We made that much money 00:19:35.040 --> 00:19:38.570 from it, and we had a total of 187 00:19:38.570 --> 00:19:43.680 participants register. That included both people who paid for 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:50.680 their tickets and who got complimentary admission. Our aim 00:19:51.990 --> 00:19:54.930 was to make it a two hundred people partici- 00:19:54.930 --> 00:19:59.380 conference. Keep it very limited - not, RubyConf India, 00:19:59.380 --> 00:20:02.450 yeah, has four hundred people. Yeah. I was there 00:20:02.450 --> 00:20:05.540 for two days, and I didn't meet a couple 00:20:05.540 --> 00:20:07.310 of people I wanted to meet, even though I 00:20:07.310 --> 00:20:09.070 was there for two days. It was such big 00:20:09.070 --> 00:20:11.390 crowd there. Here I wanted it, to keep it 00:20:11.390 --> 00:20:15.010 smaller, two hundred, so that everybody can meet everybody 00:20:15.010 --> 00:20:22.010 else. Has that mostly been accomplished? Yeah, 174. OK. 00:20:22.310 --> 00:20:26.330 And again, of that, I think that around twelve 00:20:26.330 --> 00:20:29.440 or fifteen people didn't show up. So it's about 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:31.980 160 people who have been here for the last 00:20:31.980 --> 00:20:33.140 two days. 00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:34.300 V.O.: 174 00:20:34.300 --> 00:20:37.200 P.M.: 174? Oh great. Oh 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:42.420 that's, you already submitted, removed the number. Great. And, 00:20:42.420 --> 00:20:45.160 one other thing I want to show is the, 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:52.160 before I come here. It's in some- one of 00:20:53.490 --> 00:21:00.490 these tabs. Yes. This was maybe a day, couple 00:21:01.370 --> 00:21:06.470 of days ago that we went through our finances. 00:21:06.470 --> 00:21:09.610 We got a total income of around one grand 00:21:09.610 --> 00:21:12.760 for forty- oh, forty grand, forty to a thousand. 00:21:12.760 --> 00:21:16.220 We started with the idea that we'll have this 00:21:16.220 --> 00:21:21.470 fifteen grand event, but, and even with a fifteen 00:21:21.470 --> 00:21:25.320 grand budget. We met that target, almost came very, 00:21:25.320 --> 00:21:27.170 we came very close to meeting that target, with 00:21:27.170 --> 00:21:32.720 the sponsors and ticket sales. And expenses, we, yeah, 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.610 it looks like we are just a little bit 00:21:36.610 --> 00:21:41.120 below our income, or maybe a little bit over. 00:21:41.120 --> 00:21:43.670 We'll know in a couple of days. We had 00:21:43.670 --> 00:21:46.850 a couple of last minute expenses come through, so, 00:21:46.850 --> 00:21:49.240 but yeah. In this context, I want to thank 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:56.240 all the sponsors. These folks made it really easy 00:22:05.990 --> 00:22:09.740 for us to put up an awesome event, and 00:22:09.740 --> 00:22:11.610 it was also amazing how easy it was for 00:22:11.610 --> 00:22:18.610 us to get the sponsorship. At one point, there 00:22:19.320 --> 00:22:21.350 was some doubt that maybe we won't be able 00:22:21.350 --> 00:22:24.980 to do it. We won't have enough money, we 00:22:24.980 --> 00:22:26.470 won't be able to do - we may have 00:22:26.470 --> 00:22:30.200 to cut off a few things. We probably won't 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:35.440 have the opportunities scholarship or maybe not, if not 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:37.840 lunch, at least cut something in the lunch or 00:22:37.840 --> 00:22:40.670 whatever. So. All that didn't happen. We could get 00:22:40.670 --> 00:22:47.240 all the, the budgeted, the intended amount of money. 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.590 So thank you Flipkart, thank you Josh, thank you 00:22:49.590 --> 00:22:53.700 Nilenso, thank you GitHub, thank you Qwinix, thank you 00:22:53.700 --> 00:22:57.910 ParamiSoft, thank you Bang the Table, thank you MavenHive, 00:22:57.910 --> 00:23:02.570 thank you GoodWorkLabs, thank you CodeBrahma, thank you CodeMancers, 00:23:02.570 --> 00:23:06.700 thank you Multunus, thank you Mahaswami, thank you SupportBee, 00:23:06.700 --> 00:23:09.610 thank you Icicle, thank you Cognitive Clouds, thank you 00:23:09.610 --> 00:23:16.610 Big Binary and thank you MaSymbol. Maybe I should 00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:24.290 have said yes there, right, to update. MartMe and 00:23:32.560 --> 00:23:34.110 StartUp Village in Kochi?? [00:23:33] - they were the 00:23:34.110 --> 00:23:41.110 t-shirt sponsors, so thank you MartMe and StartUp Village. 00:23:42.100 --> 00:23:45.120 So wow. I covered all ten of the items 00:23:45.120 --> 00:23:50.440 I had there. So now. My hope from this 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.340 conference is that it will inspire some of you 00:23:53.340 --> 00:23:56.240 to go back to your towns and start something 00:23:56.240 --> 00:24:00.110 similar there. In that context, what questions do you 00:24:00.110 --> 00:24:04.090 have for me and the team here? So I 00:24:04.090 --> 00:24:05.910 want all the team members to come up here. 00:24:05.910 --> 00:24:09.560 So, questions, questions. OK. Yeah? 00:24:09.560 --> 00:24:14.110 QUESTION: So what difference 00:24:14.110 --> 00:24:21.110 does having a conference like this have over all 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:37.240 the regular meetups and workshops, and- P.M.: Yeah, who 00:24:39.020 --> 00:24:44.130 in the audience can answer him? Yeah. Let's - 00:24:44.130 --> 00:24:46.500 let Gautam handle it. 00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:48.850 GAUTAM REGE: So the short 00:24:48.850 --> 00:24:52.110 answer - the more, the merrier. Right. And the 00:24:52.110 --> 00:24:54.980 longer answer to that is that in a larger 00:24:54.980 --> 00:24:57.060 conference, you get to meet a lot of other 00:24:57.060 --> 00:24:59.840 people, see how they work. See how- which all 00:24:59.840 --> 00:25:03.050 companies are interested. See what the other people, what 00:25:03.050 --> 00:25:07.430 experience they have. And that's why conferences, people take 00:25:07.430 --> 00:25:10.470 time out to come for conferences. Sometimes it happens 00:25:10.470 --> 00:25:13.090 in meet ups that, you know, it's an beyond 00:25:13.090 --> 00:25:14.190 my job thing. 00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:14.600 P.M.: Yeah. 00:25:14.600 --> 00:25:15.270 G.R.: So if I 00:25:15.270 --> 00:25:17.370 go there, it's OK, if I don't go, then 00:25:17.370 --> 00:25:19.010 it's fine. But a conference, you attend. Meet ups 00:25:19.010 --> 00:25:21.060 - I'm not sure I'm paid meetups. 00:25:21.060 --> 00:25:21.750 P.M.: So- 00:25:21.750 --> 00:25:23.800 G.R.: Do we have paid meetups? 00:25:23.800 --> 00:25:24.720 P.M.: ?? [00:25:23] 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:25.980 Has Chad Fowler ever covered your meet up? Conference, 00:25:25.980 --> 00:25:31.360 we need conference for that. K, next? 00:25:31.360 --> 00:25:37.490 QUESTION: I would like to answer his - I would like 00:25:37.490 --> 00:25:41.130 to answer his question in one line. It, the 00:25:41.130 --> 00:25:44.740 difference between ?? [00:25:43]. People go to ?? [00:25:44], 00:25:44.740 --> 00:25:45.760 people don't go to ?? [00:25:47]. So there's the 00:25:45.760 --> 00:25:49.690 answer I would give. 00:25:49.690 --> 00:25:53.690 P.M.: OK. 00:25:53.690 --> 00:25:59.970 QUESTION: Hello. What should be the mindset of a person who is 00:25:59.970 --> 00:26:03.000 attending a conference, or what should one expect from 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:03.720 a conference- 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:04.080 P.M.: From a conference. 00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:05.390 QUESTION: Or what should one do for a 00:26:05.390 --> 00:26:07.180 conference, or, for that matter, a meet up? 00:26:07.180 --> 00:26:08.680 P.M.: As a participant or 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:09.490 as an organizer? 00:26:09.490 --> 00:26:10.150 QUESTION: As a participant. 00:26:10.150 --> 00:26:15.730 P.M.: OK, as a participant, I would say, to make more, 00:26:15.730 --> 00:26:21.170 new friends. And to learn new things. 00:26:21.170 --> 00:26:25.990 TEJAS DINKAR: All right, does anyone else on the team want 00:26:25.990 --> 00:26:28.860 to answer that question as well? Swanand, or ?? 00:26:28.860 --> 00:26:29.220 [00:26:29] 00:26:29.220 --> 00:26:31.850 S.P.: One important thing you need to consider 00:26:31.850 --> 00:26:35.580 when you're attending any conference is basically meeting new 00:26:35.580 --> 00:26:39.010 people. So the talks and everything is one part 00:26:39.010 --> 00:26:42.340 of, obviously they're important. And probably talks, you're gonna 00:26:42.340 --> 00:26:44.760 go back home and watch it again on ConFreaks. 00:26:44.760 --> 00:26:47.300 It's all being recorded. So the most important thing 00:26:47.300 --> 00:26:49.330 is you know meet new people and make new 00:26:49.330 --> 00:26:51.230 friends. That is the reason, one of the reasons 00:26:51.230 --> 00:26:54.370 why we have reduced the talk period from forty 00:26:54.370 --> 00:26:56.620 minutes to thirty minutes, and have increased the lunch 00:26:56.620 --> 00:26:58.850 time and the, you know, coffee breaks. So that 00:26:58.850 --> 00:27:00.850 people get to talk to each other more. So 00:27:00.850 --> 00:27:02.929 that's the reason behind that. 00:27:02.929 --> 00:27:03.710 ??: Meet new people 00:27:03.710 --> 00:27:07.540 or keep meeting your friends at conferences. There are 00:27:07.540 --> 00:27:09.880 many people who I only meet at meet ups 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.020 or only at RubyConf India or RubyConf. 00:27:12.020 --> 00:27:15.810 P.M.: And I meet Coby at every conference I go to. 00:27:15.810 --> 00:27:19.650 OK, next question here. 00:27:19.650 --> 00:27:23.500 QUESTION: First of all, you 00:27:23.500 --> 00:27:26.440 guys did an excellent job of getting this conference 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.140 together. I basically have two questions. First is, how 00:27:30.140 --> 00:27:33.840 do you raise money from sponsors for a conference 00:27:33.840 --> 00:27:36.590 like this? I'm sure it's very difficult. And second 00:27:36.590 --> 00:27:40.310 is, how do you get international speakers, like, you 00:27:40.310 --> 00:27:41.480 know, Chad, Coby? 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.820 V.O.: So I think Swanand wants 00:27:43.820 --> 00:27:45.740 to answer this one. 00:27:45.740 --> 00:27:47.650 S.P.: You don't raise money 00:27:47.650 --> 00:27:49.840 for sponsors. You just ask them, hey we are 00:27:49.840 --> 00:27:51.940 putting on a conference, and they just say OK, 00:27:51.940 --> 00:27:53.630 we are gonna sponsor, here's the money. 00:27:53.630 --> 00:27:54.830 T.D.: Like, 00:27:54.830 --> 00:27:59.300 a bit more practically, like this is something I 00:27:59.300 --> 00:28:01.910 had a big conversation even with Ajey Gore about 00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:04.350 that developed this?? [00:28:03]. You have to understand that 00:28:04.350 --> 00:28:09.620 no matter who is there on this board, every 00:28:09.620 --> 00:28:12.420 company that sponsors is interested in something else. It 00:28:12.420 --> 00:28:13.970 kind of ties into what ?? [00:28:13] was speaking 00:28:13.970 --> 00:28:16.290 about in the morning. So I'm just gonna take 00:28:16.290 --> 00:28:18.620 my own example, is that we had at Nilenso 00:28:18.620 --> 00:28:22.590 are hoping to meet interesting people and eventually bring 00:28:22.590 --> 00:28:25.150 on like, hire someone new, and that's why, say, 00:28:25.150 --> 00:28:28.010 Nilenso is, that's definitely one of the reasons we 00:28:28.010 --> 00:28:32.160 are sponsoring a conference like this. So it's just 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.430 to try to get into the mindset of the 00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:38.210 person you're speaking to and see what benefits can 00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:41.540 you provide them, because like, these, the different levels 00:28:41.540 --> 00:28:44.150 of sponsorships - you also have to, we also 00:28:44.150 --> 00:28:46.750 have different things that they are allowed to do. 00:28:46.750 --> 00:28:49.780 For example, a gold sponsor like Flipkart is allowed 00:28:49.780 --> 00:28:51.580 to bring in that large banner back there and 00:28:51.580 --> 00:28:53.000 have a booth, and allowed to speak- 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:53.730 P.M.: And they get two minutes. 00:28:53.730 --> 00:28:54.230 T.D.: Yeah - and are 00:28:54.230 --> 00:28:57.420 allowed to speak to people. A silver sponsor has 00:28:57.420 --> 00:29:00.110 their own set of benefits, like giving out something 00:29:00.110 --> 00:29:03.410 in the pamphlets, so. It's about going and speaking 00:29:03.410 --> 00:29:06.110 to these different organizations, trying to understand what they 00:29:06.110 --> 00:29:08.720 are looking for, and seeing how your conference can 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:11.180 help them and vice versa. 00:29:11.180 --> 00:29:13.160 ??: What Dejas said 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.010 just now was exactly what Ajey was saying in 00:29:15.010 --> 00:29:18.500 the morning about keeping the stakeholders in the loop. 00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:21.790 P.M.: So the other part of your question was 00:29:21.790 --> 00:29:25.460 about keynote speakers. I would say it's all about 00:29:25.460 --> 00:29:29.850 personal relationships. I knew Chad from before, so I 00:29:29.850 --> 00:29:31.030 reached out to him and he said, yes, I 00:29:31.030 --> 00:29:33.250 am ready to come. And it helped that he 00:29:33.250 --> 00:29:35.070 was in Bangalore before and he wanted to come 00:29:35.070 --> 00:29:35.759 back. 00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:37.120 ??: Actually Coby has a very nice answer 00:29:37.120 --> 00:29:40.540 to this question. I was talking to him in 00:29:40.540 --> 00:29:41.660 the afternoon. He said, why do we need it? 00:29:41.660 --> 00:29:42.830 P.M.: Why do you need it? 00:29:42.830 --> 00:29:47.800 ??: Why do you always need foreign spekers to come here? 00:29:47.800 --> 00:29:51.080 P.M.: Yeah, so. Till we have Indian Chad Fowlers, we 00:29:51.080 --> 00:29:52.470 need the real Chad Fowler. 00:29:52.470 --> 00:29:53.750 ??: So, there you go. 00:29:53.750 --> 00:29:56.150 Your goal is set for the next two 00:29:56.150 --> 00:29:56.790 years. 00:29:56.790 --> 00:30:01.950 QUESTION: I just wanted to ask you [indecipherable 00:30:01.950 --> 00:30:06.520 - 00:30:04] at what state do you think the 00:30:06.520 --> 00:30:09.500 local meet ups can actually arrange a conference, because 00:30:09.500 --> 00:30:11.690 there needs to be a certain mileage or momentum 00:30:11.690 --> 00:30:13.640 that needs to be accumulated by the local meet 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.090 ups to then, you know, result in a conference. 00:30:16.090 --> 00:30:18.260 You just cannot have a big conference right away, 00:30:18.260 --> 00:30:20.460 right. So where do you think is the equation 00:30:20.460 --> 00:30:21.760 of breakdown should happen? 00:30:21.760 --> 00:30:23.380 P.M.: Yeah, so. You want 00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:25.220 to answer that? How, how- 00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:32.220 ??: So what do you mean by big conference, I mean? 00:30:36.950 --> 00:30:37.170 QUESTION: [indecipherable - 00:30:35] 00:30:37.170 --> 00:30:37.830 T.D.: So how big do you think 00:30:37.830 --> 00:30:40.730 that the first RubyConf India was? I don't know. 00:30:40.730 --> 00:30:42.890 Actually I don't remember myself, but it was somewhere 00:30:42.890 --> 00:30:44.480 around 300 or 350 people. 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.430 V.O.: 250 people. 00:30:45.430 --> 00:30:48.720 T.D.: 250, is it? We were really, really scared if 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.150 we were gonna get about 40 people in that, 00:30:51.150 --> 00:30:52.830 in that hall. Because we had, it was completely 00:30:52.830 --> 00:30:56.960 untested waters. Like I personally, I think I'm a 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.820 bit romantic about this, but I strongly believe in 00:30:59.820 --> 00:31:03.630 what, in Ajey said in the morning. It was 00:31:03.630 --> 00:31:05.620 really one person's vision. One person wanted to run 00:31:05.620 --> 00:31:07.400 a Ruby conference, and everyone else was just kind 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.800 of following along with that vision and doing it. 00:31:09.800 --> 00:31:14.340 So in reality, the answer to your question was, 00:31:14.340 --> 00:31:18.270 well, money aside, it was about 4 to 6 00:31:18.270 --> 00:31:21.140 people, that was all that was needed to organize 00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:23.460 the first one. And people came. I think, I 00:31:23.460 --> 00:31:27.850 think Bangalore definitely India is such a place that, 00:31:27.850 --> 00:31:29.809 you put out something, you know, some new technology 00:31:29.809 --> 00:31:32.740 like, like we have some obscure, like Go language 00:31:32.740 --> 00:31:36.610 conf, next month, just because it's interesting, people will 00:31:36.610 --> 00:31:40.900 show up. ??: This may not be the only 00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:43.400 way to organize a conference, you know. Everybody's welcome 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.429 to figure out their own way. People from ?? 00:31:45.429 --> 00:31:47.510 [00:31:46] can travel together, and they talk about Ruby 00:31:47.510 --> 00:31:49.700 and come back the next day. You know, you 00:31:49.700 --> 00:31:54.080 can do your own plans, really. 00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:59.320 COBY RANDQUIST: So as far as, do you have to have meet 00:31:59.320 --> 00:32:01.440 ups to build up a momentum to hold a 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:06.670 conference. I actually disagree. Because in Bend, it's a 00:32:06.670 --> 00:32:11.390 town of about 85,000 people. We had literally twelve 00:32:11.390 --> 00:32:15.440 Ruby developers in town, and we started Ruby on 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.110 Ales to get, to put Bend on the map 00:32:20.110 --> 00:32:23.150 in the Ruby community. So we knew we didn't 00:32:23.150 --> 00:32:26.270 have a mass of people there. Now what that 00:32:26.270 --> 00:32:28.570 did mean, is we had to go about it 00:32:28.570 --> 00:32:31.820 a little bit differently, because we had to do, 00:32:31.820 --> 00:32:34.620 you know, more external marketing, and to Prakash's point, 00:32:34.620 --> 00:32:37.660 one of the, one of the big advantages of 00:32:37.660 --> 00:32:40.679 large conferences, or actually I wouldn't even call this 00:32:40.679 --> 00:32:43.870 a large conference, but of conferences in this size, 00:32:43.870 --> 00:32:46.770 is that you do get to meet more people. 00:32:46.770 --> 00:32:49.540 And you get to create relationships with people, you 00:32:49.540 --> 00:32:52.690 know, honestly the reason I'm here is because Prakash 00:32:52.690 --> 00:32:57.350 and I talked several years ago at RubyConf in 00:32:57.350 --> 00:33:02.160 Loiussiana, and that's really how it came about. You 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:04.850 know, Chad and I's relationship over the years, I 00:33:04.850 --> 00:33:08.750 think we've never met anywhere but conferences. I've got 00:33:08.750 --> 00:33:12.740 a whole group of, you know, literally hundreds of 00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:14.740 friends at this point, that the only time I 00:33:14.740 --> 00:33:17.660 ever see each other face to face is at 00:33:17.660 --> 00:33:23.559 conferences. Yes. And now I've added another country. So 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.160 when you're trying to put together an event, part 00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:27.920 of it is make sure you know what you're 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:31.679 trying to accomplish. That's the key part, because if 00:33:31.679 --> 00:33:33.220 you know what you're trying to do, then you 00:33:33.220 --> 00:33:36.559 can set your limits. And the other key piece 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:40.400 to the budgeting aspect is, always remember you don't 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.840 want to dig yourself a hole. You know. So 00:33:43.840 --> 00:33:47.429 limit things. With our OpenStack on Ales that I 00:33:47.429 --> 00:33:50.230 mentioned yesterday, we basically said, we know what it 00:33:50.230 --> 00:33:53.160 costs to rent the place, and if we only 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.830 have ten people show up plus our speakers, we're 00:33:56.830 --> 00:33:59.350 OK. We know what, we know what our out 00:33:59.350 --> 00:34:00.980 of pocket expense is gonna be. But we're not 00:34:00.980 --> 00:34:03.530 gonna provide coffee - you know, there's water because 00:34:03.530 --> 00:34:06.510 there's water fountains. But we were able to control 00:34:06.510 --> 00:34:10.579 those factors. So yeah, you don't, you don't need 00:34:10.579 --> 00:34:14.719 a lot of momentum locally. You do need an 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.319 interest, or you need to scale your cost model 00:34:17.319 --> 00:34:19.399 so that if you only have three people show 00:34:19.399 --> 00:34:23.668 up you're OK with it. But, yeah. 00:34:23.668 --> 00:34:25.849 T.D.: Also, one more thing I want to say. I would 00:34:25.849 --> 00:34:27.440 like everyone to look at the back of the 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:31.460 hall near the Flipkart stall, that's Karen over there. 00:34:31.460 --> 00:34:33.219 Everyone wave hi. 00:34:33.219 --> 00:34:34.980 P.M.: Hey Karen! 00:34:34.980 --> 00:34:36.748 T.D.: So, Karen, 00:34:36.748 --> 00:34:40.379 or Jase, as he's known, and is partners of 00:34:40.379 --> 00:34:43.989 about I think it's a team of five, have 00:34:43.989 --> 00:34:46.389 been running, I think, like a dozen successful tech 00:34:46.389 --> 00:34:50.489 events every single year under the banner of HasGeek. 00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:51.879 And so if anyone wants to know how to 00:34:51.879 --> 00:34:54.918 run a conference successfully and on a different range 00:34:54.918 --> 00:34:59.970 of budgets, from like, really big to really small, 00:34:59.970 --> 00:35:02.269 please talk to Jase. 00:35:02.269 --> 00:35:06.910 P.M.: OK, so. We are almost out of time. 00:35:06.910 --> 00:35:08.539 I want to thank all 00:35:08.539 --> 00:35:12.470 the, my co-organizers here, and the one last thing 00:35:12.470 --> 00:35:15.430 I want to say before closing is, it's not 00:35:15.430 --> 00:35:18.049 just the few of us up here who did 00:35:18.049 --> 00:35:20.950 this conference. There are a lot of people out, 00:35:20.950 --> 00:35:24.480 who helped us from outside. We may not have 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.109 time now for everyone, but I want to thank 00:35:27.109 --> 00:35:31.009 everyone who helped us put this conference up, and 00:35:31.009 --> 00:35:33.400 made it an amazing journey so far. Thank you 00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:33.880 everyone. 00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:40.880 V.O.: We will see you at RubyConf India in March.