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Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.36,0:00:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—CHRISTIAN MARCLAY: Testing, one, two, one, two. Can you hear me?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.71,0:00:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—MAN: Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.83,0:00:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—MARCLAY: I'm soft-spoken. But it-- it \Nfeels like it really bounces around,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.94,0:00:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I hope you're happy with this sound.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.90,0:00:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was experimenting with records, \Nmelting them in my kitchen in the stove.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.46,0:01:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And uh, the fumes, I think, got to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.42,0:01:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That night, I went to sleep and I had \Nthis dream that I ate a record because
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.70,0:01:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt so nauseated. I thought, "Well, \Nmaybe I could make a little video."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.78,0:01:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I enjoyed music as a physical experience. I used \Nto love going to clubs and hearing music very loud
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.00,0:01:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that just would, you know, take over your body.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.51,0:01:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I regret it because I'm like half-deaf.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.99,0:01:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, um, I think there was something \Nfascinating about sound being objectified.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.98,0:02:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My influences for DJing really came \Nmore from Musique concrète or John Cage.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.00,0:02:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I was always interested \Nin the conceptual side of things.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.44,0:02:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the 80s, I started a band called \NThe Bachelors Even. It was a duo and my
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.00,0:02:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collaborator was a guitar player, Kurt Henry.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.86,0:02:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's when I started using records.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.04,0:02:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would record these skipping records and use cassettes \Nonstage as these background rhythmic loops.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.08,0:02:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a lot of destructive actions, actually, breaking \Nthings for the sound, uh, that it would make.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.28,0:02:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A very liberating moment was punk rock. You know, \Nhere were people performing without any training.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.24,0:02:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The combination of punk rock and performance \Nart really allowed me to get involved in music.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.20,0:03:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody I was hanging out with were either \Ndancers, musicians, painters, sculptors,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.90,0:03:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performance artists in the East Village, just \Nbeing creative and collaborating very often.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.76,0:03:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came to London with my wife. \NWe needed a change from New York.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.34,0:03:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over the years, I've done many different things. \NWhen I was a kid, I would always be collaging.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.56,0:03:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm still the same person, cutting and pasting.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.54,0:03:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My work is quite eclectic. If I'm \Ndoing something new, I'm excited,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.76,0:03:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I might work with a printer one day or with \Nfilm fragments that I collage or graphic scores.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.42,0:03:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's important to make discovery through \Nthe knowledge of other people. That's what I've
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.38,0:04:05.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enjoyed about music all my life is it is a \Ncollaborative effort. So the thread of my work
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.34,0:04:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe is sound. But sound is such a wide subject, \Nso it allows me to work in many different media.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.28,0:04:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Video, because it includes sound and image, \Nis a good medium for me. Now, it's, of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.30,0:04:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very easy. You can film a video on your iPhone \Nand edit it on the phone and just send it around.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.90,0:04:30.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You hang this one and I'll hang this one?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.89,0:04:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see, yea.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.18,0:04:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise they, ah the mobile goes...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.22,0:04:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Snapchat project came about as a surprise.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.60,0:04:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, it was a chance to work \Nwith contemporary technology.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.62,0:04:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like really a low-tech person. I'm \Nnot-- not very good with computers.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.22,0:04:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I don't use social media, I didn't know \Nwhat Snapchat was. So, I did a little research
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.28,0:05:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and realized that three-and-a-half billion Snaps \Nare created every day and that just blew my mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.94,0:05:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to shift the focus so it wouldn't be on \Nthe image but on the sound.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.13,0:05:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems more active today.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.09,0:05:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's talking a lot to us today.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.66,0:05:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I like is when they all go on together.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.04,0:05:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.66,0:05:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that we really get this chorus effect.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.23,0:05:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.94,0:05:29.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now the library is just one Snap for each frequency, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.87,0:05:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to have a thousand Snaps with each frequency
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.87,0:05:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's going to make it feel a lot better.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.38,0:05:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Snapchat engineers were amazing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.83,0:05:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They developed these algorithms \Nallowing me to find what I was looking for.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.86,0:05:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are going to have such a blast with this!
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.67,0:05:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—I think so, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.32,0:05:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I ended up making five \Ndifferent sound installations,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.04,0:06:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of them interactive, from \NSnapchats that were publicly posted.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.40,0:06:06.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one that I spent the most time \Nworking on was called "All Together."
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.38,0:06:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I would maybe make some 10 turntables, here,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.76,0:06:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had 10 iPhones and I created \Na four-minute mix of Snapchats.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.64,0:06:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, what was interesting is that \Nthis is a new form of communication.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.88,0:06:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are creating their own language using \Nimage and sound, which for me, of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.86,0:06:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is interesting because it is about image. And \NI've always been very interested in images,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.12,0:06:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though sound is so important to my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.24,0:06:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over the years, I've collaborated with many \Nmusicians and always felt intimidated by
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.90,0:07:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their incredible knowledge and years of \Npractice. But they were very encouraging
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.84,0:07:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the sense that they thought that my \Nway of doing things was interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.74,0:07:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't read or write music traditionally, \Nuh, so I had to invent my own ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.47,0:07:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more recent performance I've \Ndone is called "Investigations."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.36,0:07:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a series of found photographs \Nwhich were cropped, and they show
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.40,0:07:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hands of different pianists. I wanted to \Nprovide this to people who can read music.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.50,0:07:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The posture on the image has to be emulated. \NSo it's this overlap of different actions.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.86,0:08:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like to use the potential \Nof images to create music.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.84,0:08:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love onomatopoeias because they're words, \Nbut at the same time, they're image. You can't
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.02,0:08:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really separate the word from the image. \NIt's a very expressive way to draw a word.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.98,0:08:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A graphic score is really an open musical score.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.76,0:08:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My graphic scores can be fragments \Nfrom comic books or photographs.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.36,0:08:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like the idea that an image can suggest \Nsound rather than a note on a staff line.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.99,0:09:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The choice of the performer is really important. \NIt's almost like selecting an instrument.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.68,0:09:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to work on that Manga scroll,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.84,0:09:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I bought a lot of Manga translated \Ninto English and I cut them up.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.76,0:09:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—I think it's okay, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.22,0:09:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—I mean, I can put more if you'd like it more \Ntransparent. But I think you can see it anyway.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.24,0:09:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—No, I think it's gonna work.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.32,0:09:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—All right, cool.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.04,0:09:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never thought I would get interested in prints, \Nuh, and I've worked in different studios now.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.70,0:09:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to work at Graphicstudio in Tampa. And then,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.00,0:09:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I moved to London, \Nthe commute was a bit long.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.40,0:10:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I became aware of Manga comic \Nbooks traveling in Japan and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.24,0:10:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeing everybody in the subway reading this \Nstuff. You know, it's such a popular thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.88,0:10:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The woodgrain has an expressionist \Nquality. I thought this would be
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.04,0:10:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appropriate because the collage is made \Nout of fragments and is cut out and glued.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.48,0:10:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're reminiscent of Edvard Munch's \N"Scream," which has these concentric
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.92,0:10:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lines that feel like the sound is \Nreally coming out of the mouth.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.85,0:10:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The exhibition at Paula Cooper was \Nvery much about this anxiety mood
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.37,0:10:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're living in right now politically.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.12,0:10:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you overlap 48 war movies on top of each other,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.66,0:10:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you end up with a cacophony and you can't quite \Nfollow the narrative. It's not a pleasant video.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.92,0:11:09.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sound becomes quite aggressive. \NIt's just a loop and it goes on
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.96,0:11:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forever. And this tunnel vision, for \Nme, the video, is just a different
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.42,0:11:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to express the kind of frustration \Nthat we're all experiencing right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.62,0:11:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to comment on the everyday life that \Nwe're all living and the things that surround us.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.80,0:11:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I first came to London, every \Nday was a visual feast just because
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.70,0:12:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was looking at things differently. \NOn my walk from the studio to home,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.00,0:12:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take a lot of pictures, though I don't know \Nthese days if my camera is better than my iPhone.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.04,0:12:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Recently, I've made animations with \Nsome of these photographs of trash
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.60,0:12:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I would find on the street.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.98,0:12:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We showed the one with chewing gum in Times Square.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.82,0:12:26.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, it's just a form of note-taking.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.16,0:12:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was nice to bring back to the street \Nwhat I had found on sidewalks in London.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.25,0:12:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanna just be a dilettante for the \Nrest of my life. Just be able to change.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.88,0:12:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The street can be a place of creativity \Nand the street can be the studio as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.02,0:13:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The power of visual culture and of sound works \Non us in a very subliminal way. But it's there.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.00,0:13:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You never know when some idea's gonna \Nhit you. It can happen anywhere.