1 00:00:00,086 --> 00:00:03,003 (orchestral music) 2 00:00:04,710 --> 00:00:07,860 - Hi everyone, welcome to the Cooking Show today. 3 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:09,610 - Thank you so much for joining me. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,680 We'll be building, we'll be cooking, 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,780 and we'll be having a great time. 6 00:00:23,289 --> 00:00:25,410 When I started making videos, 7 00:00:25,410 --> 00:00:28,260 I was just watching on my downtime on YouTube, 8 00:00:28,260 --> 00:00:31,170 a lot of aspirational media like cooking shows 9 00:00:31,170 --> 00:00:35,223 and music videos and home improvement TV. 10 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:40,950 I was playing around with maybe the formal elements of how 11 00:00:40,950 --> 00:00:44,940 the material world is shown inside of these things 12 00:00:44,940 --> 00:00:49,523 that are halfway advertising and halfway instructional. 13 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:59,760 - Then I started to really think about the hosts 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,080 of these things, the perfection that is tempered with 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,810 this often sort of fake or performed vulnerability 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,980 where it seems like certain things that are probably 17 00:01:10,980 --> 00:01:14,661 beyond most of our own grasp could be graspable or held. 18 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:21,488 We'll be right back. 19 00:01:21,488 --> 00:01:24,071 (upbeat music) 20 00:01:24,990 --> 00:01:27,480 I grew up in central Brooklyn. 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,213 I think I was a pretty sort of solitary kid. 22 00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:35,220 I would spend a lot of time just kind of looking at things, 23 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:38,430 surfaces and the outsides of buildings, 24 00:01:38,430 --> 00:01:41,073 sort of making up stories for myself. 25 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:45,330 So this is the house I grew up in. 26 00:01:45,330 --> 00:01:48,180 We like to take a kind of laissez-faire approach 27 00:01:48,180 --> 00:01:49,773 to the front lawn. 28 00:01:51,060 --> 00:01:53,940 I was doing a lot of things that would sort of seem like 29 00:01:53,940 --> 00:01:57,243 art or felt like art from a pretty young age. 30 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,340 It was like the space where the world made sense for me. 31 00:02:02,340 --> 00:02:04,260 This one is like a Halloween, 32 00:02:04,260 --> 00:02:06,060 I think I was a dead house wife, 33 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:08,310 that's what I said I was that year. 34 00:02:08,310 --> 00:02:12,300 - Even at this age, she was stubborn, 35 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:14,717 she kind of knew what she wanted to do. 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,884 She had her own mind. 37 00:02:17,884 --> 00:02:20,467 (upbeat music) 38 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:30,183 - Early on actually, I had called myself a painter. 39 00:02:33,420 --> 00:02:35,430 And I think really what attracted me to that 40 00:02:35,430 --> 00:02:37,053 was like paint itself. 41 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:42,150 The sort of alchemical magical way colors came together 42 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:44,463 on the surface of a canvas. 43 00:02:47,850 --> 00:02:50,940 And I realized that like state of becoming 44 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:52,833 was what was really exciting to me. 45 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,550 That's how I started making video, actually was sort of 46 00:02:56,550 --> 00:03:00,150 recording myself in the process of making paintings 47 00:03:00,150 --> 00:03:01,440 and then remixing that 48 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,140 or reediting that later on to share 49 00:03:04,140 --> 00:03:06,778 what I really cared about with other people. 50 00:03:06,778 --> 00:03:10,288 (upbeat music) 51 00:03:10,288 --> 00:03:13,650 And then that evolved into sculptures and installations 52 00:03:13,650 --> 00:03:17,870 to sort of house and recontextualize those moving images. 53 00:03:17,870 --> 00:03:20,453 (upbeat music) 54 00:03:24,727 --> 00:03:27,873 Oh look, here's you with your beautiful face mask. 55 00:03:32,010 --> 00:03:35,640 - If my kids ask me to go to the moon with them, 56 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,053 I'm gonna try to go there. 57 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,187 You know, I'm learning, she's teaching me. 58 00:03:41,187 --> 00:03:45,750 And that's what artists do, they enlighten us 59 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:49,083 because they see things on a subconscious level. 60 00:03:52,530 --> 00:03:54,753 - I knew that my mom was such a ham. 61 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:59,310 I never saw her actually cooking food in the kitchen 62 00:03:59,310 --> 00:04:02,280 when we were growing up, but we had these long mirrors 63 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,710 in front of the kitchen and she would do these sort of like 64 00:04:04,710 --> 00:04:07,980 fake Julia Child's performances for herself 65 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:10,920 and maybe like burn a piece of toast and then walk away. 66 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,630 - Today I'll be showing you my daily clean beauty routine. 67 00:04:15,630 --> 00:04:18,450 This one is so much fun to use. 68 00:04:18,450 --> 00:04:20,400 I'm going to show you how to make this. 69 00:04:21,630 --> 00:04:24,030 - So it felt really natural to sort of invite her 70 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:26,133 into my process in that way. 71 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:31,200 - It smells like Cheetos. 72 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,080 - I do like to kind of operate in this space 73 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,450 where the videos at first look like something 74 00:04:36,450 --> 00:04:39,120 you're really familiar with, and then I start to 75 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,490 insert these uncomfortable things, 76 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:45,183 maybe these uncomfortable truths into a familiar form, 77 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,050 and then sort of see what happens 78 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:51,383 when that friction comes up. 79 00:04:56,220 --> 00:04:57,600 - I think a lot of these themes 80 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,880 that I think about like aspiration 81 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,960 and how we try to seek control over our lives, 82 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,560 they come so much to the forefront in this space of wellness 83 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,670 and wellness culture. 84 00:05:08,670 --> 00:05:11,550 And our bodies are obviously the site where so many 85 00:05:11,550 --> 00:05:13,533 of these things really play out. 86 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:21,930 In 2019, that company, Mirror, started doing a lot of ads 87 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:23,043 on the subway. 88 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,930 You could have this instructor beam straight into your room 89 00:05:27,930 --> 00:05:30,120 and it could look like high-end design 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,890 and they could be kind of coaxing you out 91 00:05:31,890 --> 00:05:33,813 of whatever into exercising. 92 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:37,860 And so I just wanted to try to make my own 93 00:05:37,860 --> 00:05:39,869 and see what would happen. 94 00:05:39,869 --> 00:05:42,619 (downbeat music) 95 00:05:48,210 --> 00:05:51,603 I thought about them kind of like haunted medicine cabinets. 96 00:05:54,630 --> 00:05:56,940 Rather than giving you clear instruction 97 00:05:56,940 --> 00:06:01,320 about how to work out or what the weather is like, 98 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,770 they're just as much sort of asking you for instruction 99 00:06:04,770 --> 00:06:07,260 or giving confounding advice 100 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:10,440 or they're playing CAPTCHA tests 101 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,890 and maybe wanting you to help them out with them. 102 00:06:14,515 --> 00:06:17,265 (downbeat music) 103 00:06:20,188 --> 00:06:23,160 I called the piece Needy Machines in that way 104 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,403 because I thought of these objects as sort of needy. 105 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:31,740 But also wondering within this space, especially the space 106 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:35,613 of the bathroom, if we are needy machines somehow. 107 00:06:42,510 --> 00:06:44,250 I think it's also a friction I'm living 108 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:45,480 with constantly, right? 109 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,833 And I think we all are. 110 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:51,970 Between the sort of space of fantasy we want to live in 111 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,851 and then the truth that we kind of know 112 00:06:55,851 --> 00:06:57,376 even in an embodied way 113 00:06:58,825 --> 00:07:01,143 about the instability of everything. 114 00:07:02,256 --> 00:07:05,089 (downbeat music)