[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.58,0:00:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MARK DION:\NI'm very much Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.80,0:00:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an artist who gets a lot from things. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.30,0:00:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really love the world of stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.72,0:00:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am constantly out there buying \Nthings going to flea markets Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.40,0:00:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yard sales and junk stores Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.72,0:00:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I like to surround myself with \Nthings that are inspirational. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.80,0:00:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some artists paint, some sculpt, Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.32,0:00:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some take photographs Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.32,0:00:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I shop Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.32,0:00:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what I do. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.08,0:00:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes those things stay in the barn Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.58,0:00:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes they enter into my every day life Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.96,0:00:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes they become part \Nof a sculpture, an installation. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.48,0:00:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really identify with the mission of the museum Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.04,0:00:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you go to gain knowledge through things Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.25,0:00:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that that's a mission that's \Nvery close to what sculpture is about Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.32,0:00:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what installation is about Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.64,0:01:04.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what for me contemporary art is about. Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.70,0:01:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not looking for the newest museum. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.52,0:01:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am always looking for the oldest museum. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.28,0:01:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm looking for museums that are very much \Na kind of window into the past in a sense. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.24,0:01:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You really get an idea of what people thought \Nabout the natural world at a particular time. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.84,0:01:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their obsessions, their \Nsensibilities, their prejudices. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.24,0:01:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of my ideas start here, with \Nwriting and drawing and sketches, Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.22,0:01:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both conceptual and practical. Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.16,0:01:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are a lot of tools that the artist \Nhas that the scientist doesn't have. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.08,0:01:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Humor, irony, metaphor these are the \Nsort of bread and butter of artists. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.88,0:02:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This work is about the introduction \Nof rats to Puffin Island, Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.32,0:02:39.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is an island off the coast of Wales, Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.52,0:02:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as people started increasingly \Nto visit the island, Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.24,0:02:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rats kind of tagged along Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.36,0:02:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and soon the puffin colony was entirely destroyed. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.04,0:03:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tar has been used as a kind of form of \Npunishment and retribution since the Middle Ages. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.00,0:03:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's this sort of natural material \Nthat has this history of a… Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.08,0:03:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a kind of expression of intolerance. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.88,0:03:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the states, people used to tar \Nthe bodies of pirates and convicts Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.80,0:03:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were executed so the corpses would \Nlast longer to function as a warning. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.91,0:03:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the middle ages, boiling \Ntar was used to defend cities. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.40,0:03:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They threw it from the parapets Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.76,0:03:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there's all sorts of associations \Nwith tar and of history of intolerance. Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.24,0:04:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not one of these artists who is spending a \Nlot of time imagining a better ecological future. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.12,0:04:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm more the kind of artist who is \Nholding up a mirror to the present. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.59,0:04:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're at this kind of moment in time where Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.20,0:04:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have a great test ahead of us Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.84,0:04:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of our relationship to the natural world. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.32,0:04:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we pass the test, we get to keep the planet. Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.96,0:04:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't really see us doing a \Nvery good job of that right now. Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.24,0:04:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not really interested in nature. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.04,0:04:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interested in ideas about nature. Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.28,0:04:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really what my work is \Nabout, is examining those ideas– Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.04,0:05:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where do they come from, what's \Nthe historical groundwork for them? Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.77,0:05:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think for myself and for a number of artists, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.80,0:05:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,science really functions as our worldview. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.84,0:05:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean our relationship to \Nscience is very much like Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.88,0:05:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Renaissance artists relationship to theology. Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.24,0:05:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really what I see as the \Nprimary job of contemporary art Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.08,0:05:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to function as a critical \Nfoil to dominate culture. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.36,0:05:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're now outside of Seattle \Nin protected watershed area Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.68,0:05:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is where the tree is coming \Nfrom for the SEATTLE VIVARIUM. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.16,0:05:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very large hemlock tree which fell \Non the evening of February 8th, 1996. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.35,0:05:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In some way I want to \Nacknowledge the wonder of just Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.68,0:05:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the vast complexity and diversity \Nwithin a natural system. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.49,0:06:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll have the real soil that \Ncame from around the tree. Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.76,0:06:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll have some of the mosses, some of the ferns, Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.08,0:06:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the simple plants, lots of the fungi. Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.64,0:06:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's all kinds of other stuff in here of \Ncourse that's fallen from the forest canopy Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.04,0:06:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is trapped in here. Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.72,0:06:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we might have hemlock seeds, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.56,0:06:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a whole variety of things \Nthat are already in this moss. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.56,0:06:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the tree is the basis of the next forest. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.92,0:07:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tree supports a living biosystem within it. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.36,0:07:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is an aspect of this piece \Nthat is optimistic in a sense. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.60,0:07:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tree is giving life through its death. Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.08,0:07:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's part of the excitement of piece: Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.40,0:07:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once it's finished, it's just starting. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.68,0:08:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a sense what I'm doing is, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.40,0:08:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm bringing a forgotten element of \Nthe environment back into the city. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.62,0:08:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm taking something that would have \Nexisted here a very long time ago Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.36,0:08:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm returning it to that site, Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.00,0:08:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost a kind of reminder. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.28,0:08:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to protect the tree \Nfrom the heat of days like this, Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.32,0:08:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to build a shelter for it. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.04,0:08:47.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's going to be one of our big jobs, Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.36,0:08:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only putting the tree in place today, Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.24,0:08:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also we have to build a structure \Naround is going to shield it from the sun Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.72,0:08:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we're not killing off all the communities \Nthat this place is meant to foster. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.48,0:09:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you're working on a project like this, Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.12,0:09:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's really like directing a film. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.84,0:09:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We worked with advisors, with soil scientists, Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.92,0:09:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with biologists, and with architects. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.92,0:09:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's a huge team of people. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.16,0:09:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to see here how it's going to line up. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.68,0:09:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once we get it down, we're not \Ngoing to ever move it again. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.40,0:09:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to fit the building perfectly so \Nit's really necessary that we get it right. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.00,0:09:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a piece that really \Nis in some way perverse. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.81,0:09:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really shows that despite \Nall of our technology, Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.40,0:09:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despite all of our money, when \Nwe destroy a natural system, Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.60,0:09:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's virtually impossible to get it back. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.28,0:10:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an incredibly interesting hybrid \Nspace that we're putting this tree into, Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.20,0:10:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is something like a showroom, Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.84,0:10:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like a classroom, Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.12,0:10:13.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something like a laboratory. Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.12,0:10:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really exciting to see the \Nculmination of five years of research, Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.84,0:10:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planning, compromising, and finally \Nhave some kind of triumph in a way. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.08,0:10:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I worked a lot on designing the building to \Nhave a particular kind of forced perspective. Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.68,0:10:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a triangular building and you \Nenter through the nose of the triangle, Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.20,0:10:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the narrowest point. Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.84,0:10:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you walk through those doors, Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.92,0:10:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are in a very different kind of place– Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.16,0:10:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a really fantastical place. Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.16,0:10:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to have this Alice \Nthrough the rabbit hole effect. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.28,0:11:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm trying to motivate through \Na sense of the marvelous, Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.48,0:11:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through a sense of the wonderful. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.80,0:11:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not a natural space. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.64,0:11:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is really a very particular \Nkind of garden that we're making. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.28,0:11:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have this incredible apparatus \Nof a water catchment system, Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.84,0:11:30.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and irrigation system, cooling systems, Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.20,0:11:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,panels to control the light levels. Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.08,0:11:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The glass to replicate the color \Nspectrum that you have under the canopy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.80,0:11:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've really tried to highlight the \Ndifficulty of replicating what nature can do. Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.44,0:11:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A number of tiles have been produced \Nby local wildlife illustrators. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.03,0:12:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On those tiles are the organisms that live \Nin on and around the tree, lovingly depicted. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.20,0:12:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here are some of the early drawings. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.72,0:12:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's also one of the schemes for \Nthe rainwater harvesting system. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.96,0:12:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some of the tools that we \Nused in our collecting expeditions. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.92,0:12:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to make something that would \Nexist over a long period of time Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.20,0:12:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people could come to and they \Ncould bring their children to, Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.08,0:12:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their children could bring their children to. Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.80,0:12:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time you walk through the door, you are \Nexperiencing something a little bit different. Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.80,0:12:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was really my goal in this piece, \Nto emphasize nature as a process. Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.86,0:12:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really expect that you leave this place maybe \Nwith more questions then when you come in. Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.28,0:12:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the interesting things \Nabout being part of the park Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.96,0:13:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you know here there are \Nthese amazing masters of sculpture. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.48,0:13:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a lot to live up to. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.44,0:13:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me it's a little bit of \Nan intimidating situation, Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.20,0:13:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it also really did raise the bar for me Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.64,0:13:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was thinking about \Nwhat I wanted to do here. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.56,0:13:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a work of art dealing \Nwith a lot of the same issues, Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.16,0:13:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with a very different toolbox. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.24,0:13:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Making a piece like this, it's like having \Na kid this is a lifetime commitment. Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.52,0:13:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a living artwork and we have \Nto be responsive to that dynamic. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.56,0:13:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's exciting.