[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.28,0:00:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now the number of people fleeing wars, Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.92,0:00:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violence, or civil disorder rose again Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.88,0:00:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,last year, even as the coronavirus Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.80,0:00:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pandemic brought much of the world Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.56,0:00:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a standstill. Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.34,0:00:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the end of 2020, there were Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.68,0:00:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,82.4 million people who were forcibly Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.28,0:00:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,displaced from their homes. Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.72,0:00:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's according to the \NUnited Nations Refugee Agency Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.52,0:00:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as you can see that is double Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.37,0:00:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the number that it was a decade ago. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.35,0:00:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More than two-thirds of those Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.88,0:00:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,officially recognized as refugees Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.04,0:00:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came from just five countries: Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.40,0:00:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Syria, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.43,0:00:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,South Sudan and Myanmar. Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.08,0:00:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our next report takes us to Pakistan Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.92,0:00:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which has hosted hundreds of thousands Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.84,0:00:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Afghan refugees Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.44,0:00:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for four decades. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.02,0:00:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bahauddin Khan runs a small grocery store Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.88,0:00:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this refugee camp in Pakistan. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.72,0:00:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day he checks his income Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.60,0:00:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and expenses. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.00,0:00:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was about the same age as this child Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.32,0:01:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when his family fled Afghanistan Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.49,0:01:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some 40 years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.24,0:01:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today it's a distant memory. Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.04,0:01:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had to get out of Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.68,0:01:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a war going on. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.84,0:01:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when the situation became worse, Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.47,0:01:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we fled. Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.59,0:01:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pakistan took us in. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.39,0:01:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been able to live here Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.04,0:01:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever since. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.54,0:01:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Haji Bahadur also fled Afghanistan Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.09,0:01:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the Soviet invasion in 1979. Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.60,0:01:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has lived in the camp ever since. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.41,0:01:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's one of 20 Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.60,0:01:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this province alone. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.08,0:01:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More than a Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.08,0:01:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,million Afghans live in Pakistan, Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.48,0:01:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're largely on their own. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.04,0:01:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would be lying if I said we got Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.72,0:01:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,financial support. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.32,0:01:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is we don't get any aid Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.17,0:01:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Pakistani government. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.96,0:02:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, for the first time, Pakistan is Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.60,0:02:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,registering the Afghan refugees residing Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.16,0:02:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the country. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.76,0:02:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Registered refugees are issued Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.22,0:02:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a biometric identity card. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.00,0:02:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many children born here have never been Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.32,0:02:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,registered at all. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.68,0:02:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hoped the data will give Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.12,0:02:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,international aid agencies\Na clearer picture Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.24,0:02:29.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the needs in the refugee community. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.64,0:02:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This exercise, we are collecting Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.08,0:02:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a most updated information Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.88,0:02:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Afghan refugees such as Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.36,0:02:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,education level, vocational Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.40,0:02:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,skills, also maybe language, Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.52,0:02:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also vulnerability. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.80,0:02:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this updated information is also Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.20,0:02:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to assist us Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.83,0:02:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to better design from our activities, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.00,0:02:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only in Pakistan but in Afghanistan Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.04,0:03:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they return to Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.36,0:03:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pakistani authorities have tried to Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.44,0:03:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encourage refugees to return home. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.08,0:03:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nadeen Ejaz is interviewing families to Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.80,0:03:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see if they're ready to make the move Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.88,0:03:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after NATO troops leave Afghanistan. Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.76,0:03:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their new ID cards are only valid Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.62,0:03:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until 2023. Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.90,0:03:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a questionnaire, they're asked if the Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.16,0:03:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation in Afghanistan normalizes, Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.15,0:03:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then do they want to leave? Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.04,0:03:29.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ninety percent of the refugees answer with a no Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.72,0:03:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They do not want to go back to Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.12,0:03:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their home country. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.16,0:03:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For Bahauddin Khan, one thing is clear: Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.20,0:03:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he will only return home Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.96,0:03:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there's peace. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.28,0:03:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are the caminantes or walkers. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.40,0:03:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Millions of them have left Venezuela, Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.72,0:03:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fleeing the country's \Nhumanitarian crisis. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.76,0:03:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now some of them are going back. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.40,0:03:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pandemic and political turmoil in Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.32,0:03:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neighboring Colombia has prompted Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.12,0:03:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wave of Venezuelans Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.68,0:03:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worn down by economic hardship to make Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.92,0:04:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the journey home. Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.24,0:04:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I left with the goal of succeeding Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.00,0:04:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and helping my family, but now Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.68,0:04:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prices are too high in Colombia. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.92,0:04:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could not make ends meet. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.80,0:04:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luis Arias just made it back to Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.64,0:04:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Venezuela after walking for two weeks Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.80,0:04:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with his family from the Colombian capital Bogota. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.76,0:04:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They survived on goodwill along the way Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.16,0:04:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that dried up Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.20,0:04:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they crossed the border. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.32,0:04:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The situation at home is dire. Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.84,0:04:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NGOs say that the country needs much more Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.20,0:04:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,international aid Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.32,0:04:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stave off crippling hunger. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.43,0:04:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Financing has been Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.92,0:04:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way below what is necessary in regards Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.04,0:04:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the dimensions of the crisis\Nin the country. Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.76,0:04:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The numbers are shameful. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.76,0:04:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the aid that does reach Venezuela Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.16,0:04:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is hard to distribute. Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.92,0:04:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Activist efforts are often hampered by Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.24,0:04:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fuel shortages, Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.68,0:04:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violence, corruption,\Nand political meddling. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.32,0:05:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to the World Food Program, Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.56,0:05:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Venezuela is among the four Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.48,0:05:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worst countries in the world \Nwith food insecurity. Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.08,0:05:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the UN predicts that by the end of this year Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.76,0:05:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seven million people could have left Venezuela, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.52,0:05:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making it the second largest migration Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.52,0:05:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after Syria, yet humanitarian aid for Venezuela Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.51,0:05:20.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is at its minimum. Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.43,0:05:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Andreina Bermudez thought about joining the exodus Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.67,0:05:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but says the risk was and is too high Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.38,0:05:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with young children. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.60,0:05:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through her eldest daughter's school, Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.52,0:05:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her family received food and educational Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.52,0:05:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supplies from UNICEF until December. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.08,0:05:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now they're hoping more aid can restart the program. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.34,0:05:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I noticed that when we received the aid, Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.25,0:05:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many parents were happy and thankful, Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.08,0:05:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly for the food because we could give the Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.20,0:05:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children in our school a balanced meal. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.40,0:05:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make ends meet, this stay-at-home mom Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.64,0:05:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relies on what she can't find. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.96,0:06:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today a neighbor has extra eggs for sale Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.44,0:06:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the supply of cheap food is sporadic. Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.44,0:06:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We cannot buy imported products in Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.36,0:06:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regular supermarkets at dollar prices, Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.68,0:06:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we have to settle for small markets Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.68,0:06:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,near home, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.72,0:06:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegetable merchants and places that sell Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.04,0:06:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at better prices. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.84,0:06:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the Venezuela the caminantes Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.90,0:06:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are walking home to, Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.68,0:06:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a country still ravaged\Nby economic decline. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.96,0:06:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its people still struggling to feed Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.72,0:06:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,themselves, still waiting for Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.72,0:06:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,international help. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.97,0:06:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can speak now to Chris Melser, Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.83,0:06:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's a spokesperson for the UN's refugee agency. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.96,0:06:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good morning, Chris, thank you\Nfor joining us. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.03,0:06:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just saw a report Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.40,0:06:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there with Afghans who fled conflict. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.60,0:06:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And your report shows \Nthere's been mentioning again Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.08,0:06:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the number of people Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.73,0:06:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have been forced\Nto flee their homes rose again Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.25,0:06:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despite the pandemic, so Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.84,0:06:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are the biggest drivers behind this rise? Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.68,0:07:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, this is indeed, these were\Nvery, very depressing numbers Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.68,0:07:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you already mentioned that more than Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.76,0:07:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two-thirds of the refugees are only from Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.92,0:07:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from five countries and Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.52,0:07:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most of the refugees are Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.08,0:07:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still from Syria, 6.7 million. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.72,0:07:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another hotspot is for example is Venezuela where Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.20,0:07:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also millions of people flew that country Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.24,0:07:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afghanistan, South Sudan, these are all Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.24,0:07:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these drivers of the development. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.72,0:07:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The plus is this year is not Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.68,0:07:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that big like in other years but Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.60,0:07:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, 82.4 million, this is the Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.20,0:07:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complete, all the inhabitants of Germany Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.44,0:07:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or one percent of the human kind is Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.60,0:07:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now refugee or internal displaced person. Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.52,0:07:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Chris, where are the majority of Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.68,0:07:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these refugees ending up Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.20,0:07:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and are they able to stay Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.70,0:07:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they end up? Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.83,0:07:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well the last question is a very important question. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.43,0:07:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Still the biggest host country for refugees is Turkey Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.03,0:07:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with 3.7 million refugees who found Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.96,0:08:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protection there, most of them from Syria. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.28,0:08:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Colombia is another country Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.32,0:08:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who accepted millions of people. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.66,0:08:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pakistan, as you mentioned \Nin the report. Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.80,0:08:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uganda and Germany is Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.08,0:08:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number five with 1.2 million refugees Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.28,0:08:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding protection in Germany. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.72,0:08:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But don't make a mistake. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.05,0:08:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,86% of all the refugees, Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.04,0:08:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,86% are in developing countries Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.00,0:08:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these are very often also countries Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.92,0:08:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who also suffer of problems with Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.65,0:08:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,malnutrition and other things. Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.47,0:08:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But anyway, they are hosting Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.20,0:08:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost 9 out of 10 refugees. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.84,0:08:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another staggering number, Chris, is that Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.04,0:08:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than 40 percent of those who are Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.96,0:08:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fleeing are children. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.08,0:08:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many are born as refugees, Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.76,0:08:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many are stateless. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.20,0:08:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of impact does that have on Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.44,0:08:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these children's futures? Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.40,0:08:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is also depressing and I was in many Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.56,0:08:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refugee camps in Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.64,0:08:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just returned from Ethiopia Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.24,0:08:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've heard from several Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.00,0:08:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refugees around the world actually, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.88,0:09:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,parents telling me, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.16,0:09:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forget us, we are a lost generation, Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.08,0:09:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but do something for our children. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.46,0:09:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Give them education, then they have a chance. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.72,0:09:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well we don't want to give up the Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.30,0:09:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,parents' generation as well, but indeed, Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.52,0:09:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,education is the key factor for Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.64,0:09:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the children so these refugees Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.24,0:09:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will not stay refugees though, Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.63,0:09:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they become engineers, pilots, Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.00,0:09:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctors, whatever. Handyman. Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.64,0:09:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at least that they have a future, Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.55,0:09:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's why this is also priority for us. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.86,0:09:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, quite often, Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.37,0:09:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we do not have enough money Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.69,0:09:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give more than just basic education. Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.16,0:09:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that is indeed troubling, and Chris, Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.16,0:09:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to ask you about something we saw Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.11,0:09:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a report, the prospect \Nof refugees returning Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.56,0:09:38.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back to their home countries. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.11,0:09:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've also seen Denmark, for example, Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.48,0:09:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,declare parts of Syria safe for refugees Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.64,0:09:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to return so they're canceling\Nresidency permits. Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.28,0:09:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what happens to refugees\Nwho do return? Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.14,0:09:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what are conditions like for them? Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.28,0:09:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well this is very very different from Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.20,0:09:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from country to country. Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.37,0:09:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it comes to Syria, Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.50,0:09:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't think that Syria is in any way Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.68,0:10:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a safe place again that you can Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.16,0:10:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,return refugees against their will to Syria Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.84,0:10:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other places, it might be possible, for Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.84,0:10:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example, about a quarter million of Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.60,0:10:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refugees returned last year Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.54,0:10:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is of course a glimmer of hope. Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.36,0:10:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But unfortunately for Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.19,0:10:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of the refugees, Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.96,0:10:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and about three quarters of all refugees Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.97,0:10:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stay in the neighboring countries \Nalways and hope to Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.48,0:10:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go back where they come from Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.16,0:10:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very soon. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.28,0:10:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For many of them, this is unfortunately Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.92,0:10:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a near-time solution. Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.36,0:10:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I do want to Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.36,0:10:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come back to Germany because you Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.20,0:10:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mentioned that this is a country \Nthat also hosts Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.62,0:10:35.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,millions of asylum seekers. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.11,0:10:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It did register fewer \Nasylum seekers last year Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.83,0:10:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the UN High Commissioner for Refugees Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.91,0:10:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Philippa Grandia said inclusion is key Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.31,0:10:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so just briefly if you can, Chris, Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.64,0:10:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is needed here to, these tools that Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.80,0:10:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are needed to make refugees in Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.48,0:10:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Germany feel at home? Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.88,0:10:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just talked to Paul Landfield, Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.34,0:10:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's a refugee in Austria, Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.04,0:10:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it's the same thing, Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.33,0:10:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who came from Hungary \Nmore than 60 years ago Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.20,0:11:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's now a well-known journalist Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.66,0:11:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Austria and he said, Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.12,0:11:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,integration is a key Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.35,0:11:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because refugees are a treasure. Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.16,0:11:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's why refugees learn the language, Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.20,0:11:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try to use your chances that also Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.24,0:11:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the host community, Germany, Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.25,0:11:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that case, Austria Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.32,0:11:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use this treasure, integrate the people, Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.00,0:11:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teach refugees language and so on and then Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.32,0:11:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the best you can do because Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.28,0:11:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,integration is one part of the solution Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.61,0:11:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the worldwide refugee problem. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.36,0:11:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chris Melzer from the UNHCR, thank you for Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.96,0:11:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sharing your insights with us today.