1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,919 now the number of people fleeing wars 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:06,879 violence or civil disorder rose again 3 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:08,800 last year even as the coronavirus 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,559 pandemic brought much of the world 5 00:00:10,559 --> 00:00:14,320 to a standstill by the end of 2020 there 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:14,679 were 7 00:00:14,679 --> 00:00:17,279 82.4 million people who were forcibly 8 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:18,720 displaced from their homes that's 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,279 according 10 00:00:19,279 --> 00:00:21,760 to the united nations refugee agency and 11 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,800 as you can see that is 12 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,720 double the number that it was a decade 13 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,880 ago more than two-thirds of those 14 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,039 officially recognized as refugees 15 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:31,840 came from just five countries syria 16 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,640 venezuela 17 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,079 afghanistan south sudan and myanmar 18 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:37,920 our next report takes us to pakistan 19 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,840 which has hosted hundreds of thousands 20 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,440 of afghan refugees 21 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,840 for four decades 22 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:48,640 a small grocery store in this refugee 23 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,719 camp in pakistan 24 00:00:50,719 --> 00:00:52,719 every day he checks his income and 25 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,280 expenses 26 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,320 he was about the same age as this child 27 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,800 when his family fled afghanistan some 40 28 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,239 years ago 29 00:01:02,239 --> 00:01:06,559 today it's a distant memory 30 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,680 we had to get out of afghanistan there 31 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,840 was a war going on 32 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,640 so when the situation became worse we 33 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,880 fled 34 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:23,040 pakistan we've been able to live here 35 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,840 ever since 36 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,040 afghanistan after the soviet invasion in 37 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,600 1979 38 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,560 he has lived in the camp ever since it's 39 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,600 one of 20 40 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,079 in this province alone more than a 41 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:42,479 million afghans live in pakistan 42 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:44,600 they're largely on their own 43 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,670 [Music] 44 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,720 i would be lying if i said we got 45 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,320 financial support 46 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 the truth is we don't get any aid from 47 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,520 the pakistani government 48 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,600 now for the first time pakistan is 49 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,159 registering the afghan refugees residing 50 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:09,758 in the country 51 00:02:09,758 --> 00:02:12,239 registered refugees are issued a 52 00:02:12,239 --> 00:02:16,000 biometric identity card 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,319 many children born here have never been 54 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:21,280 registered at all 55 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,120 it's hoped the data will give 56 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,520 international aid agencies a clearer 57 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,239 picture 58 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:30,720 of the needs in the refugee community 59 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:35,360 this exercise we are collecting a most 60 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,080 updated 61 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,360 information of afghan refugees such as 62 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,400 education level vocational 63 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,519 skills also maybe language also 64 00:02:45,519 --> 00:02:46,800 vulnerability 65 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,200 and this updated information is also 66 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,160 going to assist 67 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,000 us to better design from our activities 68 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,040 not only in pakistan but in afghanistan 69 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,360 when they return to afghanistan 70 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,440 pakistani authorities have tried to 71 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,080 encourage refugees to return home 72 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 nadine jazz is interviewing families to 73 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,879 see if they're ready to make the move 74 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:13,760 after nato troops leave afghanistan 75 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,840 their new id cards are only valid until 76 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,840 2023 77 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,159 in a questionnaire they're asked if the 78 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:23,920 situation in afghanistan 79 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:27,040 normalizes then do they want to leave 80 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,799 ninety percent of the refugees answer 81 00:03:28,799 --> 00:03:31,120 with a no they do not want to go back to 82 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,840 their home country 83 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:37,200 for baha'i khan one thing is clear 84 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,440 he will only return home if there's 85 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,280 peace 86 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,400 they are the caminantes or walkers 87 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,720 millions of them have left venezuela 88 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,640 fleeing the country's humanitarian 89 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,760 crisis 90 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,400 now some of them are going back the 91 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,319 pandemic and political turmoil in 92 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:56,480 neighboring colombia has prompted a wave 93 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,680 of venezuelans 94 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,920 worn down by economic hardship to make 95 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,799 the journey home 96 00:04:04,239 --> 00:04:06,000 i left with the goal of succeeding and 97 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,680 helping my family but now 98 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,920 prices are too high in colombia i could 99 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,799 not make ends meet 100 00:04:12,799 --> 00:04:14,640 luis arias just made it back to 101 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,798 venezuela after walking for two weeks 102 00:04:16,798 --> 00:04:18,320 with his family from the colombian 103 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,759 capital bogota 104 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:22,160 they survived on goodwill along the way 105 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,199 but that dried up 106 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:26,320 when they crossed the border 107 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,600 the situation at home is dire ngos say 108 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,199 that the country needs much more 109 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:32,320 international aid 110 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,120 to stave off crippling hunger financing 111 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:35,919 has been 112 00:04:35,919 --> 00:04:39,040 way below what is necessary in regards 113 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,120 to the dimensions of the crisis in the 114 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,759 country 115 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,759 the numbers are shameful 116 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,160 even the aid that does reach venezuela 117 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,919 is hard to distribute 118 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:52,240 activist efforts are often hampered by 119 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,680 fuel shortages 120 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,400 violence corruption and political 121 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,800 meddling 122 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,560 according to the world food program 123 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,479 venezuela is among the four 124 00:05:04,479 --> 00:05:06,800 worst countries in the world with food 125 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,080 insecurity 126 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,680 and the u.n predicts that by the end of 127 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,280 this year seven 128 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:13,440 million people could have left venezuela 129 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,520 making it the second largest migration 130 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,560 after syria yet humanitarian aid for 131 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,520 venezuela 132 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,639 is at its minimum andreina bermudez 133 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,479 thought about joining the exodus 134 00:05:24,479 --> 00:05:27,280 but says the risk was and is too high 135 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,600 with young children 136 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,520 through her eldest daughter's school her 137 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,520 family received food and educational 138 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,080 supplies from unicef until december 139 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,160 now they're hoping more aid can restart 140 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,720 the program 141 00:05:42,479 --> 00:05:44,080 i noticed that when we received the aid 142 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,080 many parents were happy and thankful 143 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,759 mostly for the food because we could 144 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:49,440 give the children in our school 145 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,840 a balanced meal 146 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,639 to make ends meet this stay-at-home mom 147 00:05:56,639 --> 00:05:58,960 relies on what she can't find 148 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,440 today a neighbor has extra eggs for sale 149 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,440 but the supply of cheap food is sporadic 150 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,360 we cannot buy imported products in 151 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,680 regular supermarkets at dollar prices 152 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,680 so we have to settle for small markets 153 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,720 near home 154 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,039 vegetable merchants and places that sell 155 00:06:15,039 --> 00:06:17,919 at better prices 156 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:22,000 that is the venezuela the caminantes are 157 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,680 walking home to 158 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,759 a country still ravaged by economic 159 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:26,960 decline 160 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,720 it's people still struggling to feed 161 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,720 themselves still waiting for 162 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,000 international help 163 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 can speak now to chris melser he's a 164 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,960 spokesperson for the un's refugee agency 165 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,400 good morning chris thank you for joining 166 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,400 us we just saw a report 167 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,600 there with afghans who who fled conflict 168 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,280 and your report shows the bear's 169 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:49,199 mentioning again that the number of 170 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:49,919 people who 171 00:06:49,919 --> 00:06:51,280 have been forced to flee their homes 172 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:53,919 rose again despite the pandemic so 173 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:55,680 what are the biggest drivers behind this 174 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,680 rise 175 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,599 yeah this is indeed these were very very 176 00:06:59,599 --> 00:07:01,199 depressing numbers and 177 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:03,759 you already mentioned that um more than 178 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:05,919 two-thirds of the refugees are only from 179 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:07,520 from five countries and 180 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 the most of the of the refugees are 181 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,120 still from syria 182 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,160 six point seven million um the 183 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,840 another hotspot is for example is 184 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,199 venezuela where 185 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,599 also millions of people flew that 186 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:20,240 country 187 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,240 afghanistan south sudan these are all 188 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,720 these these drivers of the development 189 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,680 um the the plus is this year not not 190 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,599 that big like in other years but 191 00:07:29,599 --> 00:07:33,199 yes 82.4 million this is the the 192 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:35,440 complete all the inhabitants of germany 193 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,319 or um 194 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:39,599 one percent of the human kind is is 195 00:07:39,599 --> 00:07:43,520 now refugee or internal displaced person 196 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,680 and chris where are the majority of 197 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,199 these refugees ending up 198 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:49,120 and are they able to stay where they end 199 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,960 up 200 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,240 well the last question is a very 201 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,240 important question still the biggest 202 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,319 host country for refugees is turkey with 203 00:07:56,319 --> 00:07:58,960 3.7 million refugees who found 204 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,759 protection there 205 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:03,280 most of them from from syria colombia is 206 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,319 another country 207 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:07,759 who accepted millions of people pakistan 208 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:10,800 as you mentioned in the um in the report 209 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,080 uganda and germany is 210 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,280 number five with 1.2 million refugees 211 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,720 farming protection in germany 212 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,000 but don't make a mistake 86 percent of 213 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,199 all the refugees 86 are in developing 214 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:24,000 countries 215 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,919 and these are very often also countries 216 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:29,039 who also suffer of problems with 217 00:08:29,039 --> 00:08:31,280 malnutrition and other things but anyway 218 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,080 they are hosting 219 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,200 almost 9 out of 10 refugees another 220 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,039 staggering number chris is that 221 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:38,958 more than 40 percent of those who are 222 00:08:38,958 --> 00:08:40,080 fleeing are children 223 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,000 many are born as refugees many are 224 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,200 stateless 225 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,440 what kind of impact does that have on 226 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,399 these children's futures 227 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:50,560 this is also depressing and i was many 228 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:52,640 refugee camps in bangladesh 229 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,240 i'm just returned from ethiopia and i've 230 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,000 heard from several 231 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,880 refugees around the world actually 232 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,160 parents telling me 233 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,080 forget us we are a lost generation they 234 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,680 do something for our children give them 235 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,760 education they have a chance 236 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,040 well we don't want to give up the 237 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,519 parents generation as well but indeed 238 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:12,640 education is the key factor for the for 239 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,680 the children so these 240 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:15,680 refugees will not stay refugees that 241 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,000 they become engineers pilots 242 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,959 doctors whatever um handyman but at 243 00:09:20,959 --> 00:09:22,720 least that they have a future and that's 244 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,640 why this is also priority for us 245 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,720 unfortunately quite often we do not have 246 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,480 enough money to give more than just 247 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,160 basic education 248 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,160 yeah that is indeed troubling and chris 249 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,920 i want to ask you about something we saw 250 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,680 in a report the prospect of refugees 251 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:36,560 returning 252 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,560 back to their home countries we've also 253 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:40,480 seen denmark for example 254 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 declare parts of syria safe for refugees 255 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,320 to return so they're canceling residency 256 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,279 permits 257 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:47,680 so what happens to refugees who do 258 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:49,519 return so what are conditions like for 259 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:51,279 them 260 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:53,200 well this is very very different from 261 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,720 from country to country when it comes to 262 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,279 syria 263 00:09:55,279 --> 00:09:57,680 we don't think that syria is in any way 264 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:00,160 um a safe place again that you can 265 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,640 return refugees against their word to 266 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,839 syria 267 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:05,839 in other places it might be possible for 268 00:10:05,839 --> 00:10:07,600 example about a quarter million of 269 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,680 refugees returned last year and this is 270 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,360 of course a glimmer of hope 271 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,839 but unfortunately for for most of the 272 00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:14,959 refugees 273 00:10:14,959 --> 00:10:17,760 and about three quarters of all refugees 274 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,440 stay in the neighboring countries always 275 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,240 and i hope to 276 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,160 go back where they where they come from 277 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,279 very soon 278 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:25,279 for many of them this is unfortunately 279 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:26,399 um not 280 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:29,360 a near-time solution and i do want to 281 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,200 come back to germany because you 282 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,480 mentioned that this is a country that 283 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,360 also hosts 284 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,200 millions of asylum seekers it did 285 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,600 register fewer asylum seekers last year 286 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,120 but the u.n high commissioner for 287 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,880 refugees philippa grandia said 288 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,519 inclusion is key so just briefly if you 289 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:44,640 can chris 290 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,800 what is needed here to these tools that 291 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,480 are needed to make uh refugees in 292 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,880 germany feel at home 293 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,640 we just talked to paul landfield he's a 294 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,560 refugee in austria but i think it's the 295 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:55,440 same thing 296 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,720 um who came from hungary modern 60 years 297 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,200 ago 298 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,920 and he's now a well-known journalist in 299 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,120 austria and he said 300 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,200 integration is a key because refugees 301 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,160 are a treasure 302 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,480 so that's why refugees learn the 303 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,200 language 304 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,240 try to to to use your chances that also 305 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,480 the host community the germany on that 306 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,320 case austria 307 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,000 used this treasure integrate the people 308 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,640 teach refugees language and so on and 309 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:23,680 then 310 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,279 this is the best you can do because 311 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:27,519 integration is one part of the solution 312 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:28,000 for 313 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,560 the worldwide refugee problem chris 314 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:32,959 melzer from the unhcr thank you for 315 00:11:32,959 --> 00:11:43,839 sharing your insights with us today 316 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,800 you