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I love these pieces.

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Besides the fact that they're history to me,

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I just think they're beautiful.

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For a long time, I thought they were too beautiful.

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Beauty is a problem sometimes in art making.

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In the '70s, the rest of the world thought
that beauty was a weakness;

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but the reality is, it's a strength.

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I think, just as other things
have changed in the world,

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things come around, you know.

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[CURATOR]
--So exciting, I'm dying to see this.

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[LAUGHS]

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--That is beautiful.

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--Oh my gosh, Barbara, this is exciting. I love it!

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[KASTEN]
--I'm going to work with this again, I'm sure.

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--I like it. Yeah, I like it.

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This was my first attempt at photography.

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It's called cyanotype.

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It's a liquid emulsion that's a mix of
iron and bleach.

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Any object can be placed on it
and exposed in sunlight.

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When it's washed, it turns blue.

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Blue is such a spiritual color.

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I love the fact that this blue
can be so intense.

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In the '70s,
when I was teaching textile sculpture,

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I needed a way to demonstrate
how to take a flat woven surface

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and make a three-dimensional form.

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And I found this window screening.

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When I saw how two layers
make a beautiful moiré

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I thought of this cyanotype process,
and experimented with that.

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It's very easy.

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It didn't require a darkroom.

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I liked the idea that it was
more like a printmaking process;

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but, it happened to be
a photographic recording.

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I just knew that there was something special
about these works.

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I just put them away for a while.

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I didn't want them out in the world without
some sort of recognition as a body of work.

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I still have an affinity for materials.

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I still respond to the transparencies
and textures of different surfaces.

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At that point in time, I really had a freedom.

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I didn't know anything about photography.

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Now I think I know too much about photography.

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It was a more experimental time,
in a different way.